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Google is reportedly scrambling to deliver the next version of Android for both smartphones and tablets to ensure that iPhone 5 doesn't appear on the market first and without a competitive response from its licensees.

Google shipped Android 2.2 Froyo to its smartphone licensees last year just prior to iOS 4, following up with a 2.3 Gingerbread release in December that incorporated support for NFC tags, improved copy and paste, and the company's WebM video codec.

However, the main thrust for Android in 2011 has been Android 3.0 Honeycomb, which took aim at the success of Apple's iPad. Google rushed Honeycomb to market on the Motorola Xoom shortly before the release of iPad 2, resulting in bad press for the ambitious but not quite finished release.

With Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich, Google hopes to fold Honeycomb's "holographic 3D" tablet interface elements into its Gingerbread smartphone release, creating a unified version of Android's APIs that works the same across all devices designed for the new OS version.

Android Head of Engineering Mike Claren referred to the upcoming release as the companys most ambitious release to date."

While aimed at a release date at the end of the year, BGR reported today that "its looking like the first Ice Cream Sandwich devices could start hitting the ground in as early as October," noting that "we have been told that Google is looking to push up the release of Ice Cream Sandwich devices as Apples iPhone 5 is expected in September or October, and the Mountain View-based company doesnt want potential customers coming out of contracts (especially original DROID owners) and 'drooling over the iPhone 5.'



A wait but no rush for iPhone 5

Apple's iPhone 5, scheduled to appear in the fall (likely late September or early October) alongside the release of iOS 5, is making its appearance later than the historical summer debut of previous iPhone and iOS releases.

That delay hasn't appeared to hurt Apple's smartphone sales, despite the fact that the company's iPhone 4 was first released just over a year ago (making it virtually ancient in the fast moving mobile industry). In part, that's because Apple has increased the number of new carriers selling iPhone 4, including Verizon Wireless in the US in February, greatly broadening the number of users capable of buying the phone.

Apple also released a white model of the iPhone 4 that appears to have attracted upgrades, resulting in a new record of 20.34 million iPhones in its fiscal Q3 2011 quarterly sales.

Still, there appears to be a significant backlog of buyers holding off for Apple's next iPhone release. According to one small survey by Gene Munster with Piper Jaffray, 64 percent of Verizon users plan to buy an iPhone for their next mobile, and 74 percent of those said they are waiting for iPhone 5. Just over half of AT&T users who plan to buy a new iPhone are also waiting for iPhone 5.

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How did I know who wrote this story before I even read it?
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How did I know who wrote this story before I even read it?

Oooh wait, wait, I know this one ..... the by-line right under the title !!! yes, yes, right ??? ..... what do I win?
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If they were smart, they'd call it Android 8. To beat iOS 5, WP7, and whatever versions webOS and QNX are at (not that it makes a difference).

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I will be amazed if any carrier pushes this upgrade out within a year of its release to any device currently being sold.

What's an "Android Head"? Is that like a black head?
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seems like business as usual - apple announce and release a product in their own sweet time while the rest of the industry scrambles round like headless chickens trying to keep up...
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I will be amazed if any carrier pushes this upgrade out within a year of its release to any device currently being sold.

What's an "Android Head"? Is that like a black head?

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seems like business as usual - apple announce and release a product in their own sweet time while the rest of the industry scrambles round like headless chickens trying to keep up...

Mmm, Ice Cream Sandwich was announces at Google I/O and it was aimed at Q4.2011
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racist ban imo

racist? how so? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackhead
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ameldrum1 . . . "A blackhead (medically known as an open comedo, plural comedones) is a yellow or blackish bump or plug on the skin. A blackhead is a type of acne vulgaris."
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So again software vs device? Nice ...

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racist ban imo

I think he/she was cracking a pimple joke. Oh, if only there were a "everything is an outrage because I immediately jump to conclusions without even giving it a moment of thought" ban. Man, that'd be sweet.
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racist ban imo

Here we go with the ID10T error again
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Google would be far better off actually engineering a stable and innovative OS. Instead it looks like the industry will get another clunky unstable version of Android. Here is hoping HP can actually make headway with WebOS.
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Android has always been imho in a constant beta-stage anyways. ICS (Ice Cream Sandwich) will still be that way.

If there indeed is any truth to ICS being rushed, it will simply be another botched attempt to get Android out before it is remotely ready for prime-time.

Samsung & HTC are getting smacked and Google is under the microscope due to licensing violations with Android. It's just getting worse for them.

Only the geeks, nerds, and tech-heads give a crap about ICS. The masses in general could care less what is running on their device.

iOS as usual will provide a good experience. It's Android that has an appearance problem since everyone I know that uses Android absolutely hates the experience. I guess they have nowhere but up to go.

It is such utter garbage. Shame on Google for not doing a better job.
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Samsung & HTC are getting smacked and Google is under the microscope due to licensing violations with Android. It's just getting worse for them.

Both HTC and Samsung are reporting record profits. I wouldn't consider themselves 'getting smacked' right now.

I would say with the exception of Nokia, almost all smartphone hardware manufacturers are doing well now, thanks in partly to the original iPhone that started it all.
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Both HTC and Samsung are reporting record profits. I wouldn't consider themselves 'getting smacked' right now.

I would say with the exception of Nokia, almost all smartphone hardware manufacturers are doing well now, thanks in partly to the original iPhone that started it all.

They're getting smacked in the legal sense, in that they weren't careful enough with their indiscretions that the courts are taking notice.
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Both HTC and Samsung are reporting record profits. I wouldn't consider themselves 'getting smacked' right now.

I would say with the exception of Nokia, almost all smartphone hardware manufacturers are doing well now, thanks in partly to the original iPhone that started it all.

The exception of Nokia, and Moto, and Sony Ericsson and LG and ZTE. RIM aren't doing that well either. Other than Apple only HTC & Samsung are doing well right now, and Samsung is a mixed bag - they're switching users from feature phones to smartphones very fast but their ASP is staying extremely low.
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Google would be far better off actually engineering a stable and innovative OS. Instead it looks like the industry will get another clunky unstable version of Android. Here is hoping HP can actually make headway with WebOS.

So true. It wasnt until 2.2 that you got something useable....and honeycomb 3.2 gives errors throughout the day. Jesus, maybe i should give webos a look.
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Both HTC and Samsung are reporting record profits. I wouldn't consider themselves 'getting smacked' right now.

I would say with the exception of Nokia, almost all smartphone hardware manufacturers are doing well now, thanks in partly to the original iPhone that started it all.

Thank you Mr. 1-poster. They are all under the legal guns right now. What profits they are making (or not) is not the point.

As far as I'm concerned, their profits are made on the backs of Apple's R&D, regardless of how the fandroid-community wants to spin it.
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So again software vs device? Nice ...

I just can't wait for Apple's iCloud service along with third party apps utilizing seamless syncing.
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What's done in a hurry, is seldom done well.

And as Cpsro has already pointed out, how long will it take for the individual phone makers and carriers to adopt this new OS? I do think however, that the average consumer does not at all perform any research into the frequency of updates being released by different manufacturers, and will therefore just buy the phone that is cheap but looks like a smartphone. Let them rush it and then let Apple crush it. At the end of the days, consumers will not at all be impressed by the quality of a rushed OS and will next time shop on and pay a visit to an Apple store or reseller.

I think that the iPhone 5 in combination with iOS 5 will be an absolute success and the competitors will just be left flabbergasted.

But that's just my humble, yet biased, opinion .
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Google would be far better off actually engineering a stable and innovative OS. Instead it looks like the industry will get another clunky unstable version of Android. Here is hoping HP can actually make headway with WebOS.

Unfortunately, HP's chunky looking tablet is awful IMHO.
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Thank you Mr. 1-poster. They are all under the legal guns right now. What profits they are making (or not) is not the point.

As far as I'm concerned, their profits are made on the backs of Apple's R&D, regardless of how the fandroid-community wants to spin it.

i had no idea that being a first time poster should warrant being ridiculed.

I can't really say who is copying who, as I do not know the origins of patents, as does most everyone else here, unless they're patent experts who've been in the tech industry for decades.
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Two stories, two different sites. The only source? "We have been told".

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Google will release that half-baked & buggy crap so that they can counter the iPhone 5.

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i had no idea that being a first time poster should warrant being ridiculed.

It does.

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I can't really say who is copying who, as I do not know the origins of patents, as does most everyone else here, unless they're patent experts who've been in the tech industry for decades.

We can definitely tell you who is copying who. This subject has been debated to exhaustion, no more needs to be said.

Based on your Android-esque username, coming to an Apple enthusiast website claiming that Samsung / Android is in the clear, when they are not, simply tells me your here to provoke.
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i had no idea that being a first time poster should warrant being ridiculed.

Oh you didn't know that nowadays people don't need a good reason to ridicule someone? Shallow remarks show shallow people.

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i had no idea that being a first time poster should warrant being ridiculed.

It shouldn't.

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I can't really say who is copying who, as I do not know the origins of patents, as does most everyone else here, unless they're patent experts who've been in the tech industry for decades.

However saying ridiculous things might. C'mon you really don't know who copied whom? You think that the iPhone is a blatent rip off of WiMo? The iPad off of Origami? Even an android fan should be willing to admit that the iPhone and the iPad defined categories, and that the android OEMs have copied them. The only question is whether or not they copied it legally or whether it infringes, but that they copied really isn't in doubt.
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Shallow remarks show shallow people.

That's rather shallow of you to say that...
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It does.

We can definitely tell you who is copying who. This subject has been debated to exhaustion, no more needs to be said.

Based on your Android-esque username, coming to an Apple enthusiast website claiming that Samsung / Android is in the clear, when they are not, simply tells me your here to provoke.

Wow, hold your guns mr. Sherlock. Even if you have the suspicion of him being an insider. It is not at all nice to provoke a person whom you think is here to provoke. If that makes sense. I know there is not much benefit in doubt. But please do give a person whom you have never met, nor had the honour of greeting in ways gentleman do, this benefit.
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sure Google is in a hurry, now that they know what to copy from iOS 5. Screen Mirroring for Apple TV will be its killer app, so Google has to "invent" their version for Google TV ASAP. oh yeah, and copy, er i mean "invent," AirPlay from iOS 4 too.
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It strikes me as odd that Google hasn't made Chrome a part of Android. They simply call it Browser and use a very generic icon of the Earth. From what I can tell it's not even close to being as unified with Chrome the way Safari is between Mac OS and iOS or even between Internet Explorer between Windows and WP7.

Chrome is popular. It's on its way to being the #2 browser in the world so why not try to extend that usability to their mobile OS. Why keep it so separate and so stunted in comparison?

One reason could be they don't care too much about Android. But that doesn't make sense because they do care about Chrome. They also care about Gmail yet that is not part of the Android mail program. Again, that sounds odd. I wonder if Google if it's because they are insulating themselves from other, moneymaking ventures knowing the illegality of Android OS would eventually catch up to it.
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If that makes sense. I know there is not much benefit in doubt. But please do give a person whom you have never met, nor had the honour of greeting in ways gentleman do, this benefit.

Yes... call him Mr. Android Apologist... as a gentleman would.
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It looks like this time around, Google id ripping off iOS 5 before it even comes out! They have no shame.
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A blackhead is a zit. Calm the F down.
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It strikes me as odd that Google hasn't made Chrome a part of Android. They simply call it Browser and use a very generic icon of the Earth. From what I can tell it's not even close to being as unified with Chrome the way Safari is between Mac OS and iOS or even between Internet Explorer between Windows and WP7.

Chrome is popular. It's on its way to being the #2 browser in the world so why not try to extend that usability to their mobile OS. Why keep it so separate and so stunted in comparison?
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Its a point that deserves attention.
I think there's an internal war between Chrome and Android teams.
Google's heart is in Chrome, and I think they only released Android as a holding action to keep the app model from getting out of hand. Put out an app platform that's ad-based.

But ultimately, I don't see where Android keeps the ad/personalInfoSales business going.
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It strikes me as odd that Google hasn't made Chrome a part of Android. They simply call it Browser and use a very generic icon of the Earth. From what I can tell it's not even close to being as unified with Chrome the way Safari is between Mac OS and iOS or even between Internet Explorer between Windows and WP7.

Chrome is popular. It's on its way to being the #2 browser in the world so why not try to extend that usability to their mobile OS. Why keep it so separate and so stunted in comparison?

One reason could be they don't care too much about Android. But that doesn't make sense because they do care about Chrome. They also care about Gmail yet that is not part of the Android mail program. Again, that sounds odd. I wonder if Google if it's because they are insulating themselves from other, moneymaking ventures knowing the illegality of Android OS would eventually catch up to it.

That's an interesting question but I don't think the insulation idea holds water, after all chrome isn't money making.
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