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An unverified report claims Apple will hold its annual iPod media event on Sept. 7 and could possibly announce the iPhone 5 later that month September or in early October.

Updated: The publication has clarified that the Sept. 8 date provided is for the Japanese time zone, with the event expected to take place on Sept. 7 in the U.S.

Japanese Mac site Kodawarisan put forth the specific date in a short report on Friday. MacRumors confirmed with the site the date does indeed come from a source, rather than mere guesswork.

According to the report, Apple will release a new line of iPods at the event. The rumor also claimed the fifth-generation iPhone is "likely to be announced" in late September or Early October. Though the publication has been an accurate source for Apple predictions in the past, Friday's report remains unconfirmed.

Last year, the iPod maker held the event on Sept. 1, releasing a new iPod touch, new multi-touch iPod nano, iPod shuffle and the $99 cloud-centric update to the AppleTV.

AppleInsider exclusively reported last month that Apple's product roadmap does not appear to have significant changes in store for the iPod touch, though it may introduce a white model.

In May, photos of a part allegedly for the seventh-generation iPod nano have fueled rumors that Apple may add a 1.3-megapixel camera to the device. The supposed leak came on the heels of a separate unverified photo purportedly of an iPod nano frame that emerged in April.



As for the next-generation iPhone, there is some disagreement as to whether it will arrive in September or October. After numerous reports suggested a September timeframe for the launch, All Things D claimed that their sources were wrong and the handset would not go on sale until October. However, some analysts have continued to put forth September as a likely launch date for the so-called iPhone 5.

Apple's next smartphone is expected to sport the A5 processor found in the iPad 2, as well as an 8-megapixel camera. Recent leaked case designs purportedly for the iPhone 5 that have popped up in China suggest that the externals of the device have been redesigned to include curved sides.

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An unverified report claims Apple will hold its annual iPod media event on Sept. 8 and could possibly announce the iPhone 5 later that month September or in early October.

I find it unlikely that they would hold an iPod-only media event this fall. The iPod isn't important enough to Apple (or the public) anymore. I think they will either have a combined iPhone/iPod-event, or simply refresh the iPod-lineup quietly.
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I find it unlikely that they would hold an iPod-only media event this fall. The iPod isn't important enough to Apple (or the public) anymore. I think they will either have a combined iPhone/iPod-event, or simply refresh the iPod-lineup quietly.

Not really. Music never goes out of style you know. And not everyone can afford an iPhone (and still pay for monthly bills). iPod appeals to the young and serves as a 'entry' product to make them fall in love with Apple products. And with Apple's wealth today, a media event costs nothing really. Also, it's a part of marketing strategy to keep on organizing events, no matter what the product is, so that the brand can stay visible all the time.
post #4 of 63
Considering the flagship iPod is almost the exactly the same as the iPhone, why would they announce the iPhone later and after the event.

It's more likely that they will be announced together, and possibly we will have to wait a couple of weeks after the even for the iPhone it to become available.
post #5 of 63
I'm starting to get burnt out on Apple rumours.

Seriously... an "unverified report" Apple "might" have an event for the iPod where there is a chance they will annouce a white iPod... does anyone care?
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Originally Posted by Secruoser View Post


Music never goes out of style you know. And not everyone can afford an iPhone (and still pay for monthly bills). iPod appeals to the young and serves as a 'entry' product to make them fall in love with Apple products. And with Apple's wealth today, a media event costs nothing really. Also, it's a part of marketing strategy to keep on organizing events, no matter what the product is, so that the brand can stay visible all the time.

Everything you said is true... and Apple will continue to sell iPods for the foreseeable future. But I wanna add this:

Apple sold 20 million iPhones with an average selling price of $600 last quarter.

Apple sold 8 million iPods in the same quarter... not sure how it's divided between the Touch, Nano, Shuffle, etc.

While music is still important to many people.... there aren't lines for the latest iPod when it's released. That's why I kinda agree with the idea that Apple won't do an iPod-only event anymore.

Apple certainly could do two events. You're right... it costs Apple next to nothing to hold an event.

But the iPhone event will be the more important one. That's when they bring up developers and all sorts of other people. And with iCloud on the horizon... that's more of an iPhone thing.

Maybe this has something to do with the "product transition" they mentioned in July.
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Also, it's a part of marketing strategy to keep on organizing events, no matter what the product is, so that the brand can stay visible all the time.

True enough. They could afford to have events every week without problems. But I guess it's also part of the marketing strategy to have something they can present as important and "magical" on their events. Otherwise media will lose interest and stop coming. My guess is that the iPod alone is not seen as important enough anymore.

But as always - time will show
post #8 of 63
Assuming Apple holds ONE September event for it's iPhone/iPod collaboration this year (how could they release new iPods BEFORE the iPhone? Nope. More likely they're not having an iPod event rather than doing iPhone later) this is going to be one jam-packed schedule.

Presumably, we'll see the following:

- iPhone 5
- iPod Nano update
- iPod Touch update
- iOS 5 GM unveiled
- iCloud launch date announced
- iTunes update?
- I believe an iWork update is also on the cards to unify iWork for iOS and OS X a little more.

So with all these things, it's going to be a pretty big event for Apple. I would suggest the Classic and Shuffle will be discontinued, or at the very least not updated this year at all.

The other suggestion is new iPhone/iOS 5/iCloud and then the usual iPod/iTunes event later in Sept or early Oct.
post #9 of 63
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Originally Posted by stsj View Post

I find it unlikely that they would hold an iPod-only media event this fall. The iPod isn't important enough to Apple (or the public) anymore. I think they will either have a combined iPhone/iPod-event, or simply refresh the iPod-lineup quietly.

Unbelievable, the iPhone owning users don't seem to know enough to give the iPod its proper respect. The main distinguishing characteristic of the iPhone and iPod touch is iOS and the wealth of apps that often, though not always, take advantage of an internet connection. The main characteristic that separates the iPhone and iPod touch is that the iPhone comes with a mandatory monthly bill of approximately $100 per month.

I agree with the sentiment of this tweet from Tim Bray: "Not really sure this "phone" app on my pocket computer has much of a future."

Another often published tech commentator, John Siracusa, has stated that he purchases iPod touches but not iPhones.

In other words, some of us regard the iPhone (and the competing products) a quaint legacy product that Apple was quite wise to emphasize because there are so many willing customers. But the voice telephony aspect is grotesquely over emphasized and overpriced.
post #10 of 63
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Originally Posted by jakevin. View Post


The other suggestion is new iPhone/iOS 5/iCloud and then the usual iPod/iTunes event later in Sept or early Oct.

If they did 2 events... I could see the iPhone 5 event being held in one of their usual big venues... with a hands-on room afterwards. It will be full of bloggers and press.

The iPod event could be held in the small auditorium on the Apple campus.

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Unbelievable, the iPhone owning users don't seem to know enough to give the iPod its proper respect. The main distinguishing characteristic of the iPhone and iPod touch is iOS and the wealth of apps that often, though not always, take advantage of an internet connection. The main characteristic that separates the iPhone and iPod touch is that the iPhone comes with a mandatory monthly bill of approximately $100 per month.

In other words, some of us regard the iPhone (and the competing products) a quaint legacy product that Apple was quite wise to emphasize because there are so many willing customers. But the voice telephony aspect is grotesquely over emphasized and overpriced.

I don't think anyone is disrespecting the iPod... it's still the best selling device in its class.

But... the iPhone has become the most important product Apple sells now.

That's not a slam against the iPod... it's just the direction the market is moving.

It used to be that a large portion on WWDC in June was spent on the new iPhone.... with a separate event in September for iPods.

Since they missed a June iPhone launch... it looks like the iPhone will be stealing the iPod's thunder.
post #11 of 63
Putting a camera in the iPod Shuffle is just about the only thing I can think of that would make that particular device any worse.

I really miss my 2nd gen.
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post #12 of 63
Man, I REALLY hope Apple adds bluetooth to the Nano. I have a 6th gen Nano in a Lunatik band that I wear all the time, but it would be so much more useful if it could communicate with my iPhone similar to how the Sony Ericcson Liveview device works...
post #13 of 63
Come on guys - surely the iPhone 5 will be Apple's 'One More Thing'...

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Many are expecting the announcement (or lack thereof) of the killing of the iPod Classic form factor.

Whatever happened to the flash being moved far away from the camera on the iPhone?
post #15 of 63
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Originally Posted by ameldrum1 View Post

Putting a camera in the iPod Shuffle is just about the only thing I can think of that would make that particular device any worse.

I really miss my 2nd gen.

Do you mean iPod Nano? They're never going to put a camera on the Shuffle. I know a lot of people who liked having the video camera on the 5th gen Nano. I was really surprised they took it out of the 6th gen along with the video playing ability.
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Many are expecting the announcement (or lack thereof) of the killing of the iPod Classic form factor.

Problem with the classic is it's just so bloody good. I bought mine shortly after the 160Gb launched, and it's still perfect. For a 4 year old piece of consumer technology that's damned shiny, but it can't be doing much for the sales figures.

Still I don't expect it to die yet, because it's not an expensive product line to maintain, and they don't yet offer an alternative device that provides close to the same storage.
post #17 of 63
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Problem with the classic is it's just so bloody good. I bought mine shortly after the 160Gb launched, and it's still perfect. For a 4 year old piece of consumer technology that's damned shiny, but it can't be doing much for the sales figures.

Still I don't expect it to die yet, because it's not an expensive product line to maintain, and they don't yet offer an alternative device that provides close to the same storage.

My original (fat) 160GB Classic is beat up all to hell, but it's the only iPod I've owned that hasn't had its battery go bad. I use it constantly.

The Classic is awesome.

But it won't be continued this time. It will be replaced by a (much more expensive) 128GB version of the Touch.

Hell... I really should go out and but a new 160GB Classic before it's too late.
post #18 of 63
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Man, I REALLY hope Apple adds bluetooth to the Nano. I have a 6th gen Nano in a Lunatik band that I wear all the time, but it would be so much more useful if it could communicate with my iPhone similar to how the Sony Ericcson Liveview device works...

I also have a Nano in a Tik Tok, and I get compliments all the time, even from non-tech people who are amazed that a watch can do that. But yeah, BlueTooth is the missing ingredient.

Still, compared to the Nano 5G, it's crap as a media device.
post #19 of 63
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An unverified report claims Apple will hold its annual iPod media event on Sept. 7 and could possibly announce the iPhone 5 later that month September or in early October.

Updated: The publication has clarified that the Sept. 8 date provided is for the Japanese time zone, with the event expected to take place on Sept. 7 in the U.S.

Japanese Mac site Kodawarisan put forth the specific date in a short report on Friday. MacRumors confirmed with the site the date does indeed come from a source, rather than mere guesswork.

According to the report, Apple will release a new line of iPods at the event. The rumor also claimed the fifth-generation iPhone is "likely to be announced" in late September or Early October. Though the publication has been an accurate source for Apple predictions in the past, Friday's report remains unconfirmed.

Last year, the iPod maker held the event on Sept. 1, releasing a new iPod touch, new multi-touch iPod nano, iPod shuffle and the $99 cloud-centric update to the AppleTV.

AppleInsider exclusively reported last month that Apple's product roadmap does not appear to have significant changes in store for the iPod touch, though it may introduce a white model.

In May, photos of a part allegedly for the seventh-generation iPod nano have fueled rumors that Apple may add a 1.3-megapixel camera to the device. The supposed leak came on the heels of a separate unverified photo purportedly of an iPod nano frame that emerged in April.



As for the next-generation iPhone, there is some disagreement as to whether it will arrive in September or October. After numerous reports suggested a September timeframe for the launch, All Things D claimed that their sources were wrong and the handset would not go on sale until October. However, some analysts have continued to put forth September as a likely launch date for the so-called iPhone 5.

Apple's next smartphone is expected to sport the A5 processor found in the iPad 2, as well as an 8-megapixel camera. Recent leaked case designs purportedly for the iPhone 5 that have popped up in China suggest that the externals of the device have been redesigned to include curved sides.




\\But what about the iPhone 5? What is the delay? Is it like cut ands paste, which took Apple years to figure out how to do?
post #20 of 63
I am still using the first generation iPod shuffle, I have been waiting/wanting to upgrade to iPod Nano for quite some time now. Hope that Apple has something really great to offer.
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I find it unlikely that they would hold an iPod-only media event this fall. The iPod isn't important enough to Apple (or the public) anymore. I think they will either have a combined iPhone/iPod-event, or simply refresh the iPod-lineup quietly.

I'd agree it would make sense for a joint media event as I assume the top of the range iPodTouch will be close in looks to the iPhone 5.
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post #22 of 63
Of the last three Apple products I have bought, two have been iPods and the other was a Macbook pro.

I am not interested in the iPhone as there are better alternatives that offer better value.

I am still using my 3rd gen iPod classic.

I really think they should make the nano bigger again. The small form factor of the current one is just gimmickry for it's own sake that actually detracts from usability and the 'user experience'. About this time last year I went to some effort to track down a refurbished 4th gen nano for my daughter because the current one is rubbish. You would have thought Apple would have learned a lesson from the previous shuffle that was made too small.

If Apple were to release an iPod Touch with a big HD in it, I would buy one in a hurry.
post #23 of 63
The one thing that would be worthy of an iPod only announcement is if they have added a comprehensive workout app to the Nano---which they really should have done a long time ago.
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I am not interested in the iPhone as there are better alternatives that offer better value.

Likewise. But not the same thinking as you, most probably. I think Android devices are junk, just like I think Windows computers are junk.

But a 64GB iPod Touch and an SE (or Nokia, if you prefer) dumbphone and a 3G wireless modem for less than the price of the 32 GB iPhone, and for less than half of the monthly charge, for me, is a much better deal. I don't mind carrying three devices. Four, actually, if you count my iPad, which I can use with the same 3G modem.
post #25 of 63
Coincidence the Droid Bionic is launching Sept 8th on Verizon?
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post #26 of 63
Doesn't need to be an iPhone announcement at all, besides didn't they say this fall for the iPhone... Which doesn't happen until after September 21st in the northern hemisphere.

I think Apple will introduce an iPod touch WiFi+3G and possibly a 5" or 7" model as well.

There may also be some kind of Apple TV related announcement.

The iPhone announcement will come 3 or 4 weeks later.
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post #27 of 63
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Doesn't need to be an iPhone announcement at all, besides didn't they say this fall for the iPhone... Which doesn't happen until after September 21st in the northern hemisphere.
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The iPhone announcement will come 3 or 4 weeks later.

I'm not sure Apple gave any official guidance on the next iPhone outside of iOS5 coming the fall. An announcement can come earlier with an actual Fall release in the end of Sept/early Oct. The iPhone is the flagship product. As we know the iPod Touch is the same device without the cellular radio and no way will they announce an iPod giving away specs for the iPhone before they officially announce it on its own. It probably will be all together.
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post #28 of 63
My only comment on whether the iPhone will be a part of the Sept. 8th event is that Apple's stock will take a pummeling if they don't.

Also, if they introduce it then, it gives them 2 weeks to 30 days to put it on sale, meeting the late September to early October sale date. Let the lines queue up.
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post #29 of 63
Could these "new i-Phone" covers suit a new slightly revamped iPod touch?
The iPod touch already has rounded corners and is thinner than the IP4.
post #30 of 63
I have heard rumors about an iPod touch with 3G capabilities for a while now and such a device could be a shake-up in the mobile computer space.
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As for the next-generation iPhone, there is some disagreement as to whether it will arrive in September or October. After numerous reports suggested a September timeframe for the launch, All Things D claimed that their sources were wrong and the handset would not go on sale until October. However, some analysts have continued to put forth September as a likely launch date for the so-called iPhone 5.

PREDICTION: The iPhone 5 and 4S will launch in North America and various countries in September, and will launch in Asia in October.

It doesn't make sense for Apple to hold two separate events so closely related, so close together. When has Jobs ever done that? Everything will be revealed in September, with certain products not available overseas until October; that's the way Jobs has done it before.
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I find it unlikely that they would hold an iPod-only media event this fall. The iPod isn't important enough to Apple (or the public) anymore. I think they will either have a combined iPhone/iPod-event, or simply refresh the iPod-lineup quietly.

It would make sense if there was a "product transition" involved.

Whether or not they do turn the iPod touch into "iPad Junior," there seems to be something up with iPods this year or else why all that activity about the domain names? Why leave them alone for the whole life of the iPod product and then buy them up when it's on it's way out? I think at the very least there is some kind of re-alignment of products or rebranding going on, but it's really impossible to tell for sure and we'll all find out soon enough anyway.
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Coincidence the Droid Bionic is launching Sept 8th on Verizon?

I'm sure there are lots of other products that no one has ever heard of launching on the same day around the world. It's just a coincidence.
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I'm not sure Apple gave any official guidance on the next iPhone outside of iOS5 coming the fall. An announcement can come earlier with an actual Fall release in the end of Sept/early Oct. The iPhone is the flagship product. As we know the iPod Touch is the same device without the cellular radio and no way will they announce an iPod giving away specs for the iPhone before they officially announce it on its own. It probably will be all together.

They are far from being 'the same device', in fact all they really share these days is a screen an OS and a processor. Different cameras, different amounts of flash, different enclosures etc.

Now I think we can safely say that iOS-5 will launch with the iPhone, but they could launch an iPod without it. The processor will be the A5, which is already in the iPad-2, so that's not exactly going to be news either way. The key component in common is the screen, and interestingly that's exactly where we could see the phone and the iPod start to diverge.

Apple could easily choose to make the Touch bigger than the iPhone, they could even make a tweener sized touch that fills the 5inch or 7inch tablet niche. They could make it smaller than the iPhone, staying at current dimensions while the phone embiggens to 4inch-ish.

This rumour is just a rumour of course, and we may get a phone at the same event, but the idea that Apple absolutely must announce the two at the same time is bogus.
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... I don't expect (the Classic) to die yet, because it's not an expensive product line to maintain, and they don't yet offer an alternative device that provides close to the same storage.

This is a tiny bit of an exaggeration isn't it? 128GB is indeed "close" to 160GB" and if the iPod touch has a 256GB solid state drive this year (a not unreasonable hope), then there would be nothing at all about the classic that isn't duplicated in another device.

I have no prediction either way, but it wouldn't be surprising to me if this was the year that the iPod Classic became just another app on iOS and the hardware was sent to the museum.
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Coincidence the Droid Bionic is launching Sept 8th on Verizon?

Yes and no. Yes because I'm sure Apple didn't care. No because there is a very small window in which to launch new devices if you want high visibility for the holidays. August is dead, November is too late - there are maybe 6 weeks in Sep and early Oct, and Tue/Wed/Thur are preferred days so 18 days and a lot of products.
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They are far from being 'the same device', in fact all they really share these days is a screen an OS and a processor. Different cameras, different amounts of flash, different enclosures etc.

Now I think we can safely say that iOS-5 will launch with the iPhone, but they could launch an iPod without it. The processor will be the A5, which is already in the iPad-2, so that's not exactly going to be news either way. The key component in common is the screen, and interestingly that's exactly where we could see the phone and the iPod start to diverge.

Apple could easily choose to make the Touch bigger than the iPhone, they could even make a tweener sized touch that fills the 5inch or 7inch tablet niche. They could make it smaller than the iPhone, staying at current dimensions while the phone embiggens to 4inch-ish.

This rumour is just a rumour of course, and we may get a phone at the same event, but the idea that Apple absolutely must announce the two at the same time is bogus.

I disagree entirely. No way Apple gives an ipod touch without the iphone. No way are they different sizes, or variations, it's not Apple's style and would cause too many headaches for devs. That's the exact fragmentation problem Android has, and Apple has been very careful and successful in avoiding.
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This is a tiny bit of an exaggeration isn't it? 128GB is indeed "close" to 160GB" and if the iPod touch has a 256GB solid state drive this year (a not unreasonable hope), then there would be nothing at all about the classic that isn't duplicated in another device.

I have no prediction either way, but it wouldn't be surprising to me if this was the year that the iPod Classic became just another app on iOS and the hardware was sent to the museum.

If there's a reasonably priced 256GB Touch then you could be right, but that seems unlikely when the current max is 64. Also that 64GB Touch is $150 more than the 160GB Classic - and probably has lower margins.

We will likely hit 128 this year, and they might decide that it's close enough that they can kill the Classic, but I don't see the need to really. Apple does like to keep to the minimum number of SKUs but it's less of an issue with a device that is both small and not undergoing rapid revision.

Personally I'd love it if just for nostalgia they made a 10th anniversary classic with a 320GB HD for people who want to move up to lossless audio. Bonus points if they gave it the Og enclosure
post #40 of 63
Wouldn't a camera make all of the Nano watchbands obsolete?
I really don't get a camera on the Nano, but it's been the most unstable of any apple product design over the years, so I suppose anything's possible.
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