Originally Posted by msuberly
I predict this move will squeeze out other Android licensees. There is a reason Microsoft did not build computers. I doubt this will have much effect on Apple.
No, but Microsoft's mobile division is celebrating like crazy today.
Originally Posted by gchriste
You would have to think this will seriously piss off HTC, Samsung etc. Especially given the issues around Google preventing some licences putting other third party apps on the handset. On the one hand saying you must play by our rules, and now directly competing, sure to annoy them no end.
HTC, Samsung, etc will have to continue selling Android handsets, but it's easy to predict that they'll put less emphasis on them in the future - particularly if Google does what it does best and screws everyone else with its license terms.
Originally Posted by ksec
Google in their Press State it wont be a merge. Moto Mobility will runs as a separate unit. So business as usual. There will still be Moto Phones. It is only the owner changed hands..
Do you think that HTC and Samsung are too stupid to realize that Google controls it - even if it's a separate division?
The only way out for Google is to sell the hardware division while retaining the patent portfolio. If they include a license to use the patents, they could probably get a reasonable amount for the hardware business while retaining the patents.
Originally Posted by IQatEdo
This still requires regulatory approval, wonder whether licensees will be heard and what they might say?
It certainly moves to lessen competition - when the OS developer now owns one of the major brands. It could be interesting. I wouldn't be surprised to see the hardware division sold off - both for regulatory reasons and for good business reasons (see above).
Originally Posted by gchriste
Still, it is a lot of cash for a patent play, 3 times what the Apple consortium paid. They would want to be making some good returns for the shareholders after splashing that amount of cash.
Yeah, funny how it was anticompetitive and stifles innovation when Apple's consortium spends $4 B on patents, but it's OK when Google spends 3 times as much, largely for access to the patents. I guess that means that Google stifles innovation 3 times as much.....
Furthermore, the majority of Motorola patents are already being licensed under FRAND terms. It's going to be very hard for Google to leverage that.
Originally Posted by Tulkas
Depends. If they provide these patents to all of their partners for use in their Android products, none of them are going to complain too much. If they hold them tight, then yeah, their partners are going to revolt.
It's Google we're talking about. Every action they've taken in the past decade has been based on pure greed and self-centeredness. They apparently don't have any concept that partners are important.
Originally Posted by stelligent
But seriously, I think the answers lies in Larry Page's own words: "Our acquisition of Motorola will increase competition by strengthening Google's patent portfolio, which will enable us to better protect Android from anti-competitive threats from Microsoft, Apple and other companies."
So it's anti-competitive if Apple and Microsoft buy patents, but it increases competition if Google does so...
Does anyone believe ANYTHING these idiots say?