Originally Posted by Lmac12
I registered to chime in. Long time reader and Mac owner since '85. These record/ unprecedented profits are largely on the backs of over worked, grossly underpaid, Chinese people working at Foxconn, that commit suicide when the pressure of their work conditions gets too intense. And now these same people will be replaced by machines to assemble our beloved phones and pads because of the rising cost of workers!!! So really in the end how much is enough? If Apple paid fair wages to American assembly workers what would their coffers hold? 30-40 billion? Isn't that enough?
I celebrate Apple's success like the rest of you. I remember when it seemed like it was going to end. I too was sad. But it was deserved, man that Performa 6300 I struggled with sure was a dog....Steve J did save the co. But this latest incarnation of Apple policy is troubling to me. It doesn't jibe with the Apple I knew and loved. Greed never seemed synonymous with them, now it does.
You should know that the China labor and US Jobs issues have been discussed at great length on AI forums... with no resolution.
Just a couple of points to consider:
1) without those over-worked, under-paid jobs at Foxconn -- many of those same people would be working in the fields or rice paddies -- for a back-breaking 16 hours per day. Others would be in steel mills, mines, refineries etc. with unhealthy working environments. Still others would have no jobs at all.
2) if state and federal regulations would allow Apple (and others) to manufacture in the US the cost of doing so would, likely, be prohibitive.
3) To do so, Apple would need to drastically raise their prices and reduce their profits. And they still wouldn't be competitive with those who take advantage of the Chinese system you decry.
4) By leaving markets or not being able to enter new markets, Apple would likely need to significantly reduce their physical plant and workforce around the world -- including the US. Why would Apple need build that new campus if there were no need for the 13,000 employees it will house. Loss of those construction jobs and the fanout of services (restaurants, janitors, teachers, theaters, bowling alleys, dry cleaners...) would be a significant job loss in addition to the 13,000 jobs lost at Apple.
So, you see these are not simple problems with simple solutions.
They are not problems that Apple created, nor can Apple be expected to rectify them.