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A new leak has revealed Taiwanese handset maker HTC's 10.1-inch Puccini tablet with 4G LTE is in the testing phase and will challenge Apple's iPad when it arrives in the near future.

Engadget obtained photos of the Puccini, which is also rumored to be called the Jetstream in the U.S., in the wild. Sources told the publication that the device is currently in testing and should arrive in the "not-too-distant future."

The report confirmed that the Puccini will be the first AT&T tablet with built-in 4G LTE support. The device will reportedly feature a 1.5GHz dual-core processor with 1GB of RAM, 16GB of storage and a 10.1-inch WXGA touchscreen. It will run Google's Android 3.0 Honeycomb operating system.

AT&T launched its first 4G LTE devices on Sunday in the form of several WWAN modems. The carrier plans to reach 70 million customers across 15 markets with the technology by the end of this year.

The leak also showed HTC's Wi-Fi only 7-inch Flyer tablet, which is expected to go on sale in the U.S. in September. The device launched in May to lukewarm reviews and modest sales. Apple has targeted the Flyer in a patent infringement case that could lead to a ban on the importation of the device.




That lawsuit is part of a larger dispute between Apple and HTC. In August, Apple won an initial ruling against HTC with the International Trade Commission. An ITC judge found the company had infringed on two patents, though the decision will need to be reviewed by the full commission.

HTC CEO Peter Chou remains unfazed by his company's legal disagreement with Apple, characterizing it as a "distraction." He also said that the handset maker is still "carefully assessing the tablet market" and will become more competitive in 2012.


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Any other specs like weight, dimensions and cost?
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Even before I saw it, I knew what the thing was going to look like...and when I clicked the link and saw the screen caps, ugh. I was not surprised. Same as all the other 10.1" tablets that came after iPad. Why don't they just call it the "JetPad" and complete their journey towards the dark side?

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My favourite part of the design is the sexy AT&T logo.
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Even before I saw it, I knew what the thing was going to look like...and when I clicked the link and saw the screen caps, ugh. I was not surprised. Same as all the other 10.1" tablets that came after iPad. Why don't they just call it the "JetPad" and complete their journey towards the dark side?

Yeah I was actually expecting a triangular-shaped tablet, how dare they design it like that?! Did they not realise Apple holds the patent to rounded rectangles already? Disregard the vastly different hardware and OS inside, bring on the lawsuits!
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and will become more competitive in 2012.

Will.....?? Become.....?? More.....?? Competitive?

Way waay too little too late. Any serious contender needs to bring something different and compelling to the market in the next quarter. Or else they'll be going up against iPad 3.
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Why does the external design of every new tablet these days from every manufacturer has to look like an ipad??

bleh....
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Any other specs like weight, dimensions and cost?

Honestly, who cares, other than Engadget, who think people still care.
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Yeah I was actually expecting a triangular-shaped tablet, how dare they design it like that?! Did they not realise Apple holds the patent to rounded rectangles already? Disregard the vastly different hardware and OS inside, bring on the lawsuits!

You see it that way. Not? One P. But then, I could see the difference. Just look at those icons... Urggh, Sick!







Sorry, can't find any bucket nearby....

Actually, just follow back with what that have been presented before, the ones before iPad came out. Plenty of those comparison pictures around the inter-web.
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Even before I saw it, I knew what the thing was going to look like...and when I clicked the link and saw the screen caps, ugh. I was not surprised. Same as all the other 10.1" tablets that came after iPad. Why don't they just call it the "JetPad" and complete their journey towards the dark side?

They all resemble the media consumption Tablet Newspaper profiled in a video here. . .
back in 1994. Yes, even the iPad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBEtP...eature=feedlik

FWIW, every tablet design I've ever seen, including those going back to 1968, have had the same general rectangular shape. It's the only one that makes immediate sense, as well as the most familiar form factor for other media such as books, magazines, paper, etc.
http://www.pcmag.com/slideshow/story...f-the-tablet/1

Why would anyone expect a tablet to have any other shape? Would something round or triangular even be generally acceptable as a form factor for a media device by the average person? Very doubtful.
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10.1 is hard to compete. 7" has a chance. People might buy it to use as a GPS unit in the car but then again people just isn't confident enough in tablet other than iPad. If I'm on a market for tablet and I don't want iPad the smartest way would be waiting to see what Windows 8 will bring. What did Android give you for this kind of device apart from cool 3D Google map nobody care? None. Nada. Zip.
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Puccini is rolling in his grave. HTC is a motherfuckingcuntbitchasshole that kills babies just for fun; its their hobby.
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They all resemble the media consumption Tablet Newspaper profiled in a video here. . .
back in 1994. Yes, even the iPad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBEtP...eature=feedlik

FWIW, every tablet design I've ever seen, including those going back to 1968, have had the same general rectangular shape. It's the only one that makes immediate sense, as well as the most familiar form factor for other media such as books, magazines, paper, etc.
http://www.pcmag.com/slideshow/story...f-the-tablet/1

Why would anyone expect a tablet to have any other shape? Would something round or triangular even be generally acceptable as a form factor for a media device by the average person? Very doubtful.

Let's not even mention the tablets featured in '2001' eh? Ooh look, flat, thin rectangular devices with rounded corners.

Bloody design patents.
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Let's not even mention the tablets featured in '2001' eh? Ooh look, flat, thin rectangular devices with rounded corners.

Bloody design patents.

Bloody people who don't understand design patents.

It's not about thin rectangular devices with rounded corners. There's a lot more about the appearance than the general shape. The fact is that one of these 'prior art' devices look anything like an iPad other than the general shape. Yet most of the tablets that have come out since the iPad are nearly indistinguishable from the iPad. If the design of the iPad is so obvious, why was no one using it before the iPad came out? Look at the 2001 'device'. Row of buttons on the bottom and solid black. Look at the device in the above videos - not at all like the iPad. Yet the designs of most of the tablets released in the past 3 years look like a race to see who can make their system look most like an iPad.
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Why does the external design of every new tablet these days from every manufacturer has to look like an ipad??

bleh....

Because the external design of the iPad is obvious and utilitarian? Because even in 1969, tablet computers looked like that in science fiction movies? Just a thought.
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This is the ugliest and cheapest looking iPad knockoff I've seen yet. Seriously, if this is the best they can come up with, they should just give up.
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Because the external design of the iPad is obvious and utilitarian? Because even in 1969, tablet computers looked like that in science fiction movies? Just a thought.

You think the tablet in 2001 looks like iPad? Wow!
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The graphics make me think of Windows 95.
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Even before I saw it, I knew what the thing was going to look like...and when I clicked the link and saw the screen caps, ugh. I was not surprised. Same as all the other 10.1" tablets that came after iPad. Why don't they just call it the "JetPad" and complete their journey towards the dark side?

it looks cheap & tacky. It doesn't have that feeling of apple quality. and therefore it doesn't seem quite real, like it's a toy.
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At some point, just as with iPod clones, share holders will say "Enough of burning our money. Give it up already will you!"
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post #21 of 52
So does AT&T even have any LTE set up? I mean, they don't even have 3G across their entire coverage area.

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So does AT&T even have any LTE set up? I mean, they don't even have 3G across their entire coverage area.

ATT will start rolling out LTE later this year..........In 5 cities
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It's the only one that makes immediate sense, as well as the most familiar form factor for other media such as books, magazines, paper, etc.

Yes. Magazines are all rectangles, and still each one has a distinct design. Another good example is the iPhone. It's clear that iPhone 4 has a different design than iPhone 3G and 3GS. Yet somehow, no other company seems to be able to come up with something that doesn't look like an iPad.
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I would write more words, but I'm afraid Apple might sue me saying they have a patent on the alphabet.
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I would write more words, but I'm afraid Apple might sue me saying they have a patent on the alphabet.

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They all resemble the media consumption Tablet Newspaper profiled in a video here. . .
back in 1994. Yes, even the iPad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBEtP...eature=feedlik

FWIW, every tablet design I've ever seen, including those going back to 1968, have had the same general rectangular shape. It's the only one that makes immediate sense, as well as the most familiar form factor for other media such as books, magazines, paper, etc.
http://www.pcmag.com/slideshow/story...f-the-tablet/1

Why would anyone expect a tablet to have any other shape? Would something round or triangular even be generally acceptable as a form factor for a media device by the average person? Very doubtful.

A tablet by its very name describes a rectangular shape however and a simple form can have a great variety of distinctive design details. Samsung's tablet is a copy without any effort to differentiate it from the iPad. Apple is protecting its interest and design prowess and does not want consumer confusion for this product line. Look at the old beige box PC as manufacturers to a common form but made them clearly different from their competitors. This is not the case of these Asia brands that see no problem with a complete knock off.
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Looks like it's already in a pine box...how fitting.
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Yeah I was actually expecting a triangular-shaped tablet, how dare they design it like that?! Did they not realise Apple holds the patent to rounded rectangles already? Disregard the vastly different hardware and OS inside, bring on the lawsuits!

Not enough adulation over in the Android blogs about the next "Android Messiah" device that will steal market from the iPad? Nothing like a quick drive-by over at AI to get the blood flowing in the morning eh?

It would have been a funny sarcastic comment but you forgot the funny when you ladeled on the sarcasm. And then, THEN you had to make a silly comment like

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Disregard the vastly different hardware and OS inside

If only. When is the Android team going to STOP diddling around and nail down the tablet format and operational factors that decisively put an Android tablet out in front of the iPad (beyond chanting incessantly about features that the majority of the consumer market don't really care about) and clearly leading the vision for what tablet computing could be?

It won't. because all Andy Rubin can do is peer over the shoulder of Apple and try to get the next iterative update for Android out before Apple announces the next upgrade to iOS. You can call out feature sets all you want but it is the cohesive whole that is selling iPads to consumers - the combination of interface, ease of use, robust marketplace and attention to detail. Only at such time as Rubin and his team can sit down and develop a coherent forward vision of what the tablet experience should be for the average person will Android have a chance at an enduring framework. And they won't because their focus is solely on the OS, they are OS engineers and not a cross-functional team of designers engineers, and OS/software/interface specialists.

This is the major fail of Android. And MOto adds nothing to the mix - in fact they are a counter-cultural enigma to the Google culture and will be slowly dissolved until there is nothing of value left - just like Google has done with most of their non-core acquisitions. The rest is silence - All HTC knows is form-factor, Apple benchmarked that and anything else is seen as a me-too device, because there is no other form factor that makes sense.

Notice how quickly the whole dual screen/folding concept prototypes disappeared when the iPad came out. The Microsoft Courier design - dead. The Kno? - history. The Toshiba Libretto? - discontinued. How about the Sony S1 or 2? - vaporware. Everyone recognizes what Apple spent a couple of years testing and confirming - the slab makes sense to the average consumer. Which is why they don't try to differentiate too widely from Apple's demonstrably successful form factor. I'm not saying it can't be done but what hardware company out there has the combination of talents and expertise to take over leading consumer electronics from Apple? Not Google. Apparently not HTC or Samsung. Certainly not Moto.
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I would write more words, but I'm afraid Apple might sue me saying they have a patent on the alphabet.

to add some snarkiness as well??

Hey, I hear they're offering free ice cream sandwiches over at the Android blogs - if you hurry you could still get in line and get some freebies!! Instead of wasting your time here.

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My favourite part of the design is the sexy AT&T logo.

It's so funny (and kind of embarrassing for the other companies), how only Apple seems to have enough pull to refuse to put their partners logos all over their devices.
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They all resemble the media consumption Tablet Newspaper profiled in a video here. . .
back in 1994. Yes, even the iPad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBEtP...eature=feedlik

FWIW, every tablet design I've ever seen, including those going back to 1968, have had the same general rectangular shape. It's the only one that makes immediate sense, as well as the most familiar form factor for other media such as books, magazines, paper, etc.
http://www.pcmag.com/slideshow/story...f-the-tablet/1

Why would anyone expect a tablet to have any other shape? Would something round or triangular even be generally acceptable as a form factor for a media device by the average person? Very doubtful.

You keep posting these sorts of things, but I don't think you really understand what you are talking about.

It's not about a rectangular shape. Every book and comic and movie and computer screen has a rectangular shape. it's about "Trade Dress" and specific inventions related to the UI or the hardware.

Probably the best way to understand it is to look at a positive example. Palm's (now HP's and soon to be Microsoft's or Samsung's), phones are similar to all other smartphones, but they have their own design style at the same time that cannot be confused with an iPhone or an Android phone.

It's about working out a design style or trade dress for your own products instead of just blindly copying the competition. It's a subtle thing based on a knowledge of Art and Design which is probably why you don't seem to get it.
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It's so funny (and kind of embarrassing for the other companies), how only Apple seems to have enough pull to refuse to put their partners logos all over their devices.

Yep, even after the switch, we never heard ... 'ding dong ... Intel Inside' once TG!
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It's so funny (and kind of embarrassing for the other companies), how only Apple seems to have enough pull to refuse to put their partners logos all over their devices.

That's what happens when you have a device that is SO GOOD that telecoms will even stop colluding with one another to get it.

*presentation's about a quarter of the way through*

"We want our logo on the front."

"Okay, so that wraps up our presentation for the device we'll be giving to your competitors only. Any questions?"

"But okay, never mind."

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You keep posting these sorts of things, but I don't think you really understand what you are talking about.

It's not about a rectangular shape. Every book and comic and movie and computer screen has a rectangular shape. it's about "Trade Dress" and specific inventions related to the UI or the hardware.

That's not the initial claim they made in Germany, having nothing at all to do with trade dress claims they've made elsewhere. It was simply based on Apple claiming ownership of the form-factor. That's it.

And if I read it correctly they're making the same claim about ownership of the form-factor in the the Dutch court, tho if so they didn't agree with the claim.

So yes, I know what's been written about the trade dress claims, a separate issue. In the German court case that doesn't apply.
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post #35 of 52
Wow, bread stale this morning?

We all new it would be a copy, didn't we? You people that always say, "well what else should it look like" are missing the point. All tablets before iPad looked like laptops. End.
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Hi all, newly registered, but a long time reader. Apple makes great products. Its difficult to say otherwise, whether you like them or not. But to the people that think that Apple created the heavens and the earth, please just stop, you don't know what you're talking about. I'm writing this from my iPad2 and can't help to see the resemblance to:

http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/s...-movies-music/

Please just stop making us REAL Apple fans look like whiny, ignorant 5 year olds. Just do some basic research before you decide to speak.

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I would write more words, but I'm afraid Apple might sue me saying they have a patent on the alphabet.

Wow. Why would you even take a chance by posting then? Pretty stupid on your part. You must not be very bright. I suggest not posting to AI ever again just in case.

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You [Gatorguy] keep posting these sorts of things, but I don't think you really understand what you are talking about. ...

He knows exactly what he's talking about and knows that his posts here are entirely dishonest and disingenuous. But, after all, that's what he's paid to do.
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I would write more words, but I'm afraid Apple might sue me saying they have a patent on the alphabet.

It won't make any difference how many words you use .... if you don't have anything "interesting" to say.
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