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post #41 of 147
8/25/11 at 9:37am
AAPL is down about 1.13% and steady, in a down market -- the volume seems low.

That's much better than I thought.

I believe that this announcement was timed and executed with perfection -- exactly what I would expect from Apple.
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post #42 of 147
8/25/11 at 9:41am
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AAPL is down about 1.13% and steady, in a down market -- the volume seems low.

That's much better than I hoped.

I believe that this announcement was timed and executed with perfection -- exactly what I would expect from Apple.

I honestly believe -- and am comfortable enough with my valuation of Apple's non-cash operations to say that -- those who sold today at the start of the day, and more important, those that will on that inevitable day, will probably regret it.

That's, of course, only one data point.
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post #43 of 147
8/25/11 at 9:42am
It is kind of remarkable, when you think about it.

For years there has been speculation that Apple would suffer a mortal blow when Steve stepped down, if not in quality of products delivered at least in valuation.

Yet here we are on the fateful day after and Apple's stock is pretty much just tracking with the market. Not to mention that we're likely on the cusp of another round of great products that will set sales on fire.....
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post #44 of 147
8/25/11 at 9:42am
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Shouldn't the CEO of the most valuable company on Earth have better grammar than this?

Our best years lay ahead.

And it's repeated in the title of the article... Has AppleInsider noticed? I certainly believe this error does not diminish the professionalism of Mr. Cook, but knowing the Apple-haters..
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post #45 of 147
8/25/11 at 9:45am
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

Lay is the past tense of lie, so

It's also a different verb.

But apparently, I'm wrong. No wonder I'm not a CEO.
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post #46 of 147
8/25/11 at 9:46am
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Originally Posted by Ungenio View Post

And it's repeated in the title of the article... Has AppleInsider noticed? I certainly believe this error does not diminish the professionalism of Mr. Cook, but knowing the Apple-haters..

Stop. You really need to figure out the difference between 'lie' and 'lay.'
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post #47 of 147
8/25/11 at 9:48am
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

I honestly believe -- and am comfortable enough with my valuation of Apple's non-cash operations to say that -- those who sold today at the start of the day, and more important, those that will on that inevitable day, will probably regret it.

That's, of course, only one data point.

The only regret I have is not having any more money lying around to get more AAPL. I'm happy with my current holdings and I'm in it for the long run, but even I saw the buying opportunity.
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post #48 of 147
8/25/11 at 9:52am
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

Stop. You really need to figure out the difference between 'lie' and 'lay.'

..." I haven't been weighed in a week -- and I feew wousy"...

Ha! Take that, auto-corrector!
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post #49 of 147
8/25/11 at 9:53am
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The only regret I have is not having any more money lying around to get more AAPL. I'm happy with my current holdings and I'm in it for the long run, but even I saw the buying opportunity.

Agreed. Had my finances been there, I would of bought aapl every time it went down to the 350's.
But my current holdings will keep me happy for the time being.
Honestly, aapl is the only holding in my portfolio that is doing very very well.
Crazy market conditions!!!
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post #50 of 147
8/25/11 at 10:03am
Generally I find your postings insightful or interesting but I have to shake my head at this one. Are you actually saying you have never worked with somebody with a beard or moustache?

Mind you I've never sported either, however it is not something that is an unknown.

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Not many grown up men with real jobs have beards or moustaches.
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post #51 of 147
8/25/11 at 10:09am
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Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

Hmm... According to the link, Williams reported to the CEO -- that would have been Steve, not Tim.

Well, mainly because Tim Cook is now the CEO. They have updated his page since this morning.

Edit: Using Way Back Machine, a cached version shows Jeff as reporting to the COO. http://web.archive.org/web/201012202...fwilliams.html
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post #52 of 147
8/25/11 at 10:13am
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

Heh heh. What then? The iToilet?

I'll have got out by then (anyway, with the kids' college coming up in a few years, I'll have some major liquidity needs that'll force some selling.......)

Actually... the iToilet will be the product that changes people's lives the most. It will automatically analyze any incoming product and send the information directly to your iPad X. It will revolutionize the medical establishment.
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post #53 of 147
8/25/11 at 10:15am
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Generally I find your postings insightful or interesting but I have to shake my head at this one. Are you actually saying you have never worked with somebody with a beard or moustache?

Mind you I've never sported either, however it is not something that is an unknown.


I find it more strange to work with a ceo who wears black turtle necks, jeans, and sneakers.
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post #54 of 147
8/25/11 at 10:16am
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Not many grown up men with real jobs have beards or moustaches.

Spoken by someone who obviously doesn't work in the fields of software or research science!
No Matte == No Sale :-(
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post #55 of 147
8/25/11 at 10:16am
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Not necessary. The only reason Jobs asked for a $1 salary was because he became CEO when Apple was near death.

I'd like to see Tim Cook receive a compensation package that rewards him according to Apple's performance under his leadership.

Nah, the $1 salary was a tax maneuver.

Steve already rakes in $30 million annually in Disney dividends.

He really doesn't need a token salary. He'd mostly chew it up on income taxes and FICA/FICAMED (the latter which he'd never recover) plus Apple Inc. would have to kick in the employer portion for the latter. Stock option grants are a better way to compensate Steve. Capital gains are taxed at a lower rate than wages.
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post #56 of 147
8/25/11 at 10:17am
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The only regret I have is not having any more money lying around to get more AAPL. I'm happy with my current holdings and I'm in it for the long run, but even I saw the buying opportunity.

Shouldn't that be "laying"?

j/k
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post #57 of 147
8/25/11 at 10:20am
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Originally Posted by addabox View Post

It is kind of remarkable, when you think about it.

For years there has been speculation that Apple would suffer a mortal blow when Steve stepped down, if not in quality of products delivered at least in valuation.

Yet here we are on the fateful day after and Apple's stock is pretty much just tracking with the market. Not to mention that we're likely on the cusp of another round of great products that will set sales on fire.....

No. The market has already priced in the SJ effect. The current AAPL price is a fare price w/o SJ.
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post #58 of 147
8/25/11 at 10:26am
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Originally Posted by tazinlwfl View Post

I wonder if Mr. Cook will inherit the same salary as Jobs


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post #59 of 147
8/25/11 at 10:28am
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

Stop. You really need to figure out the difference between 'lie' and 'lay.'



It easy. I lie to get laid.
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post #60 of 147
8/25/11 at 10:28am
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No. The market has already priced in the SJ effect. The current AAPL price is a fare price w/o SJ.

No, Apple has been artificially pushed down for the past six months due to Steve's leave of absence. It should have been $400 a share in May.
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post #61 of 147
8/25/11 at 10:47am
"The current AAPL price is a fare price w/o SJ"

It'll go lower. Cook has been doing a mediocre job at best since taking over as acting CEO:

Iphone5 launch - delayed repeatedly
Ipad3 - have to wait till next year
Cheaper Iphone - still the 3GS no improvement
MacBooks - supply still constrained for the new models
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post #62 of 147
8/25/11 at 10:51am
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"The current AAPL price is a fare price w/o SJ"

It'll go lower. Cook has been doing a mediocre job at best since taking over as acting CEO:

Iphone5 launch - delayed repeatedly
Ipad3 - have to wait till next year
Cheaper Iphone - still the 3GS no improvement
MacBooks - supply still constrained for the new models

Where do these asshats come from?
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post #63 of 147
8/25/11 at 10:54am
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Mmm... I rather liked this model:


thats an Apple II not a performa.
oopsl, just read your second post. sorry!
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post #64 of 147
8/25/11 at 10:55am
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Originally Posted by drobforever View Post

Iphone5 launch - delayed repeatedly

Prove how you know this. Do it.

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Ipad3 - have to wait till next year

What's that? The product that has a one year release cycle is going to be released one year after the previous model which was released one year after the first model?

HOW SH… okay, forget it. My normal approach is useless here; this guy's a complete…

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Cheaper Iphone - still the 3GS no improvement

Probably because it's the best selling phone on the planet right now.

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MacBooks - supply still constrained for the new models

Instead of whining, maybe we should give you a soldering iron and put you to work on this stuff. With any luck, you'll solder your fingers together so you can't type this nonsense anymore.

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thats an Apple II not a performa.



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post #65 of 147
8/25/11 at 10:55am


Is it only me or does Mr. Cook remind you of Jar Jar Binks? It's probably just me \

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post #66 of 147
8/25/11 at 10:59am
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Is it only me or does Mr. Cook remind you of Jar Jar Binks? It's probably just me \

Meesa tinkin' yousa been poppin' on da goober juice las' night, okee-day?
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post #67 of 147
8/25/11 at 11:01am
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Originally Posted by drobforever View Post

"The current AAPL price is a fare price w/o SJ"

It'll go lower. Cook has been doing a mediocre job at best since taking over as acting CEO:

Iphone5 launch - delayed repeatedly
Ipad3 - have to wait till next year
Cheaper Iphone - still the 3GS no improvement
MacBooks - supply still constrained for the new models

Are you possibly being sarcastic? I ask, because in an earlier post in another thread, in response to a poster claiming that Cook was botching the supply chain management, you said:

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I think it's more the issue of the suppliers not being able to produce enough components for the latest device because of the earthquake. It's not like Tim can predict that.

I mean, besides the Galaxy II, which still isn't seen anywhere in US, there's really very little progress in terms of smartphone hardware anyway, and that's because of the same issue.
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post #68 of 147
8/25/11 at 11:03am
Lots of chuckles, gentle ribbing and good humor on this thread today. Rather like having a seat for the roast at Steve's retirement party. Performa ... Jar Jar Binks ... really!

But of all the comments so far, I like this the best ...

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Originally Posted by theoneaboveall View Post

Before he stepped down, Steve gave Tim Cook the "book of ideas" the way Frodo gave Sam the book at the end of The Return of the King. Then said with a grin...there is room for more.

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post #69 of 147
8/25/11 at 11:05am
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Originally Posted by tonton View Post

Shouldn't the CEO of the most valuable company on Earth have better grammar than this?

Our best years lay ahead.

you showed him! poor steve, what a failure...
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post #70 of 147
8/25/11 at 11:08am
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Well, mainly because Tim Cook is now the CEO. They have updated his page since this morning.

Edit: Using Way Back Machine, a cached version shows Jeff as reporting to the COO. http://web.archive.org/web/201012202...fwilliams.html

Great memory!

This is fantastic news because it means that:

1) this succession was meticulously planned and executed.

2) both Steve's and Tim's successors have been groomed for their present positions.

3) Tim can more easily relinquish COO duties -- as he must.


You have the cool, clear
Eyes of a seeker of wisdom and truth;
Yet there's that upturned chin
And that grin of impetuous youth.
Oh, I believe in you.
I believe in you.

I hear the sound of good, solid judgment
Whenever you talk;
Yet there's the bold, brave spring of the tiger
That quickens your walk.
Oh, I believe in you.
I believe in you.

And when my faith in my fellow man
All but falls apart,
I've but to feel your hand grasping mine
And I take heart; I take heart

To see the cool, clear
Eyes of a seeker of wisdom and truth;
Yet, with the slam-bang tang
Reminiscent of gin and vermouth.
Oh, I believe in you.
I believe in you.
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post #71 of 147
8/25/11 at 11:09am
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Is it only me or does Mr. Cook remind you of Jar Jar Binks? It's probably just me \

no. he reminds me of robert englund

http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/G...rt-Englund.jpg
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post #72 of 147
8/25/11 at 11:11am
[QUOTE=screamingfist;1929046]no. he reminds me of robert englund.

Well, that would put a whole new twist on the keynotes.... "Don't fall asleep! Don't fall asleep!"
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post #73 of 147
8/25/11 at 11:19am
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no. he reminds me of robert englund.

Well, that would put a whole new twist on the keynotes.... "Don't fall asleep! Don't fall asleep!"

poor programmers at apple, they thought steve was bad...(JK)
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post #74 of 147
8/25/11 at 11:21am
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

Not many grown up men with real jobs have beards or moustaches.

Yeah, lots of people who aren't manly enough to grow a beard say that.... :roll eyes:


That is, of course, an absurd statement.

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The black color was molded in the plastic case (expensive) -- it was not painted on.

It may have been expensive due to low volume, but there's nothing inherently expensive about including a pigment in a molded plastic part. Heck, they add pigment to toys in McDonalds happy meals - which are pennies each.
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post #75 of 147
8/25/11 at 11:23am
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I find it more strange to work with a ceo who wears black turtle necks, jeans, and sneakers.

It wasn't that long ago, ca 1970, when women were first permitted to wear pants in the office -- instead of a dress or a business suit - skirt and coat,

When I met my wife, Lucy, in 1963 she was apartment-hunting in Pomona, CA -- wearing heels a hat, gloves and a business suit -- deemed proper attire.
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post #76 of 147
8/25/11 at 11:25am
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http://www.apple.com/pr/bios

That's strange... Ron Johnson still listed?

Proud AAPL stock owner.

 

GOA

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Proud AAPL stock owner.

 

GOA

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post #77 of 147
8/25/11 at 11:25am
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Originally Posted by drobforever View Post

"The current AAPL price is a fare price w/o SJ"

It'll go lower. Cook has been doing a mediocre job at best since taking over as acting CEO:

Iphone5 launch - delayed repeatedly
Ipad3 - have to wait till next year
Cheaper Iphone - still the 3GS no improvement
MacBooks - supply still constrained for the new models

HUH? How in the world would you know that the iPhone5 or iPad3 were delayed? I find it much more likely that their scheduled release times are precisely when they'll be released.

In regards to the cheaper iPhone - why? Why would Apple divert resources or production capacity to a cheaper product?

Last, the MacBooks. Supply is tight. That's a good thing. Part of Apple's marketing strategy is to create a sense of demand. Would you rather they waited another 3 months to release so they could have additional supply?

Finally, Cook's job isn't just to manage inventory, but also production cost. He's been instrumental in lowering operating and manufacturing costs, which drives profit and satisfies shareholders.

Please refrain from commenting about things you clearly know little about. Or at least, if you do, say that it's your opinion.

PS - you misspelled several words, had you been using a Mac running Lion, the spell check would have auto-corrected those.
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post #78 of 147
8/25/11 at 11:29am
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That's strange... Ron Johnson still listed?

Noticed that too. Perhaps the team managing the PR pages doesn't have bandwidth? Or, maybe their waiting until a replacement is in place.

In my opinion, replacing Ron will be one of Cook's first tests. I see it much more possible that hiring the wrong retail leader ripples through Apple Stores to cause tangible changes for the consumer experience than it's possible Cook disrupts the product line or corporate strategy.
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8/25/11 at 11:33am
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Yeah, lots of people who aren't manly enough to grow a beard say that.... :roll eyes:


That is, of course, an absurd statement.



It may have been expensive due to low volume, but there's nothing inherently expensive about including a pigment in a molded plastic part. Heck, they add pigment to toys in McDonalds happy meals - which are pennies each.

Yes! Expensive due to low volume. When the Apple ][ was first introduced it was the only major computer with a plastic case. People ridiculed it -- ha, ha, a plastic computer.

But. the molds for the case cost several thousands of dollars -- a commitment to a large production run.

The competition (later, Including IBM), used metal cases.

It was thought that the metal cases were more macho, more serious-business. When, actually, they were just easier and cheaper to manufacture.


As to the beard and mustache -- I wore both when we owned the computer stores in the 1980s. We did business with many fortune 500 companies. To my knowledge, it never was an issue.
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8/25/11 at 11:39am
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Originally Posted by cajun View Post

Not necessary. The only reason Jobs asked for a $1 salary was because he became CEO when Apple was near death.

I'd like to see Tim Cook receive a compensation package that rewards him according to Apple's performance under his leadership.

Correction, while partially true the other reason was PIXAR already had their IPO and with 80% of the stock ownership he was already worth several billion.
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