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Apple's next-generation iPhone will ditch the glass back of the iPhone 4 for a metal chassis, but its screen size will be smaller than 4 inches, according to the latest rumor.

Citing sources in Apple's overseas supply chain, DigiTimes reported on Monday that the so-called "iPhone 5" will "not have many differences" when compared to the current-generation iPhone 4. The largest difference will be a metal chassis on the back, replacing the reinforced glass found on the iPhone 4.

"The sources added that the iPhone 5 will adopt a 3.5- to 3.7-inch panel with a design to allow the bezel of the panel to become thinner and make the screen look larger," the report said.

The report also dispelled what was clearly a fake video that has circulated on the Internet, claiming to show a "leaked" website from Switzerland for the iPhone 5. To date, the bogus video has received more than 1.8 million views on YouTube.

Rumors surrounding Apple's next-generation iPhone have been have provided conflicting reports, creating confusion as to whether Apple's next handset will sport an all-new design, or have an appearance similar to the iPhone 4. A report in March from China Times was the first indication that the so-called "iPhone 5" will allegedly have a metal chassis, though that report suggested the handset will sport a 4-inch screen.



Last week, Reuters chimed in, claiming the next-generation iPhone will look largely the same as the iPhone 4. That report was in contrast with other rumors and even third-party cases suggesting the next iPhone could have angled sides and a flat back, with a design similar to the iPad 2.

Monday's report may also conflict with a handful of component leaks from last week. Various pictures showed components for a prototype iPhone with what appears to be a white glass back, similar to that of the iPhone 4. But some rumors have claimed that Apple plans to release a so-called "iPhone 4S" with an improved antenna that will be sold as a low-end handset, in addition to a redesigned fifth-generation iPhone.
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...the iPhone 5 will adopt a 3.5- to 3.7-inch panel with a design to allow the bezel of the panel to become thinner and make the screen look larger...

Make the screen look larger?
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That fake is pretty awesome I do have to say. I'd buy the iPhone 5 in a heartbeat if it looked like that!
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Our top story tonight: the iPhone 5 is going to be exactly like every single other iPhone before it. Just like everyone already knew.

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our top story tonight: The iphone 5 is going to be exactly like every single other iphone before it. Just like everyone already knew.

hahahah!!
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Originally Posted by DrDoppio View Post

Make the screen look larger?

I'd prefer the screen actually be bigger (like the Sharp 4.5" 720p screen from Nexus Prime). These days 3.5" is low to middle end in terms of screen size.

That being said, rumors in about every direction have been released, so I won't believe anything until it shows up on Apple's site.
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I'd prefer the screen actually be bigger (like the Sharp 4.5" 720p screen from Nexus Prime). These days 3.5" is low to middle end in terms of screen size.

That being said, rumors in about every direction have been released, so I won't believe anything until it shows up on Apple's site.

If they release a 4.5 or 4.3 screen iPhone 5 I might just have to get one...... As it is my wife and sons will want the iPhone 5 when it becomes available next month. They have been patiently waiting and using their 3GS. It will be very interesting to see if it lives up to all the hype.

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Originally Posted by DrDoppio View Post

Make the screen look larger?

Or make the app icons smaller!

Maybe the next iPhone will do away with the glass front and put in a translucent mirror front with the following warning, of course...

Warning: 'Apps in mirror are closer than they appear!'.
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post #9 of 50
I just bought an out of contract iPhone 4 to replace a dying iPhone 3GS. This phone has an Applecare for another 1 1/2 years, so I am not in any hurry to renew my contract (expired yesterday!!!) If the rumor is true and Apple doesn't upgrade to at least a 4 inch screen I will pass on this iteration of iPhone.

I am still waiting for an iPod Touch with a data plan (similar to the iPad). I don't need a phone often, but instead just need the data. Paying the extra $$$ for minutes even as an add-a-phone on my wife's account is still wasting $28.00 a month versus just a pure data plan. I know some folks think the idea is silly, but Apple would do well to add wireless 3G to the next iPod Touch. There are so many people who don't have iPhones and/or don't want a minutes plan. This would be perfect for many kids and young adults. Use a dedicated Skype number on 3G or wifi and use Google Voice for SMS. Plus this would make a great gateway product to set up future adults with iPhones.

A guy can dream...Most likely the iPod Touch will just get another incremental update. Maybe more storage so as to replace the iPod Classic...
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People talking about wanting 4.5" screen...

I'd rather have a phone that fits into my pocket.
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Originally Posted by BenRoethig View Post

I'd prefer the screen actually be bigger (like the Sharp 4.5" 720p screen from Nexus Prime). These days 3.5" is low to middle end in terms of screen size.

That being said, rumors in about every direction have been released, so I won't believe anything until it shows up on Apple's site.

To each his own...if that was the iPhone's screen size I'd be most definitely on the "no thanks" list.

Anyone have a breakdown of smartphone sales by screen size? People on these rumor/tech fan websites are probably biased towards larger screens. But I can't help but think that if that was the iPhone's screen size Apple would lose more sales than they'd gain. Gain a small number of tech fan sales, but lose a larger number of "average joe" sales. And I don't see them making iPhones with two drastically different screen sizes.

If Apple decides to make a mid-sized iOS device, I suspect it will be the iPod touch, which doesn't have quite the same portability requirements that a cell phone would have.
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Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post

Apple's next-generation iPhone will ditch the glass back of the iPhone 4 for a metal chassis, but its screen size will be smaller than 4 inches, according to the latest rumor.

Citing sources in Apple's overseas supply chain, DigiTimes reported on Monday that the so-called "iPhone 5" will "not have many differences" when compared to the current-generation iPhone 4. The largest difference will be a metal chassis on the back, replacing the reinforced glass found on the iPhone 4.

"The sources added that the iPhone 5 will adopt a 3.5- to 3.7-inch panel with a design to allow the bezel of the panel to become thinner and make the screen look larger," the report said.

The report also dispelled what was clearly a fake video that has circulated on the Internet, claiming to show a "leaked" website from Switzerland for the iPhone 5. To date, the bogus video has received more than 1.8 million views on YouTube.

Rumors surrounding Apple's next-generation iPhone have been have provided conflicting reports, creating confusion as to whether Apple's next handset will sport an all-new design, or have an appearance similar to the iPhone 4. A report in March from China Times was the first indication that the so-called "iPhone 5" will allegedly have a metal chassis, though that report suggested the handset will sport a 4-inch screen.



Last week, Reuters chimed in, claiming the next-generation iPhone will look largely the same as the iPhone 4. That report was in contrast with other rumors and even third-party cases suggesting the next iPhone could have angled sides and a flat back, with a design similar to the iPad 2.

Monday's report may also conflict with a handful of component leaks from last week. Various pictures showed components for a prototype iPhone with what appears to be a white glass back, similar to that of the iPhone 4. But some rumors have claimed that Apple plans to release a so-called "iPhone 4S" with an improved antenna that will be sold as a low-end handset, in addition to a redesigned fifth-generation iPhone.

This report makes little sense.

AppleInsider goes out of it's way to say that the video is a known "fake" but then describes a phone that's pretty much an exact match of the one in the video. Then they go on about a larger screen right before stating that it will actually only "look" larger. Finally, AppleInsider mentions a report from yesterday that was published in this very blog about photographs of a "white glass" back part for the iPhone that was (by their own report), clearly made of plastic and not glass at all.

Sometimes I think you people just like to stir the pot for no reason. This place used to be a little more analytical and a little more careful of what it reported.

So far there have been three distinct and separate iPhone designs leaked, each supported by case leaks as well and each reports on dutifully by AppleInsider. Why not actually try to figure it all out instead of just reporting on the flavour of the week?
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I am thinking that with so much variation on the leaks up to date, that this is probably Tim Cook's first major decision being executed.
Jobs first and foremost rule was probably utter secrecy.
With as much rumors coming out, and with either fake cases and/or spare parts, Cook probably decided. You can't stop them from looking, but give them false leads instead and that will feed the monster.
That is even better than before.
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the back of latest iPod got scratched to oblivion within days of gentle use. Glass back of iPhone 4 lasted over a year now without a single scratch.

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Originally Posted by juandl View Post

I am thinking that with so much variation on the leaks up to date, that this is probably Tim Cook's first major decision being executed.
Jobs first and foremost rule was probably utter secrecy.
With as much rumors coming out, and with either fake cases and/or spare parts, Cook probably decided. You can't stop them from looking, but give them false leads instead and that will feed the monster.
That is even better than before.

No, Jobs has done that for a decade or more.

Originally posted by Marvin

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Originally Posted by Wiggin View Post

To each his own...if that was the iPhone's screen size I'd be most definitely on the "no thanks" list.

Anyone have a breakdown of smartphone sales by screen size? People on these rumor/tech fan websites are probably biased towards larger screens. But I can't help but think that if that was the iPhone's screen size Apple would lose more sales than they'd gain. Gain a small number of tech fan sales, but lose a larger number of "average joe" sales. And I don't see them making iPhones with two drastically different screen sizes.

If Apple decides to make a mid-sized iOS device, I suspect it will be the iPod touch, which doesn't have quite the same portability requirements that a cell phone would have.

I think there is more of a need for a smaller iPhone than a larger one. I carry my iPad daily, so I dont need much when it comes to a phone.
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People talking about wanting 4.5" screen...

I'd rather have a phone that fits into my pocket.

Hear, hear!
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People talking about wanting 4.5" screen...

I'd rather have a phone that fits into my pocket.

Is that a 4.5" iPhone in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?
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Originally Posted by Mario View Post

the back of latest iPod got scratched to oblivion within days of gentle use. Glass back of iPhone 4 lasted over a year now without a single scratch.

If it is like the original iPhone, no worries as those were a matte finish.
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People talking about wanting 4.5" screen...

I'd rather have a phone that fits into my pocket.

Not to worry. Not happening. No way. So many reasons.

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People talking about wanting 4.5" screen...

I'd rather have a phone that fits into my pocket.

I imagine that's something they look at when viewing a prototype. How does it fit in pockets? How does it feel in your hand (sampling different people for some variation here)? How prone is it to ass dialing? I doubt they'll increase the size. I've never heard anyone complain it was too small.
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I am still waiting for an iPod Touch with a data plan (similar to the iPad). I don't need a phone often, but instead just need the data. Paying the extra $$$ for minutes even as an add-a-phone on my wife's account is still wasting $28.00 a month versus just a pure data plan. I know some folks think the idea is silly, but Apple would do well to add wireless 3G to the next iPod Touch. There are so many people who don't have iPhones and/or don't want a minutes plan. This would be perfect for many kids and young adults. Use a dedicated Skype number on 3G or wifi and use Google Voice for SMS. Plus this would make a great gateway product to set up future adults with iPhones.

I have been thinking along these same lines since the release of the iPad 3G
post #23 of 50
There are no conflicting rumors, just rumors over two different models - one similar to iPhone 4 at a lower price point, probably with 8GB, and a bigger iPhone 5 with perhaps (up to) 64GB.

It makes Apple's iPhones more accessible - and you have those very big China, India, Brasil, Russia markets where a cheaper iPhone is paramount - and also more adjusted to people who carry around an iPad.

Let's face it - if one carries a 3G iPad around, one already has got all net browsing access and computing one needs, only the telephone calling capabilities remain and that can be provided using a bare bones phone or, more elegantly, 'cos one doesn't ALWAYS carry the iPad with, a smaller capacity iPhone for quick sorting of situations/what-have-you.

Apple is adjusting the gadgets for our Apple ecosystem lifestyle

Let's move on please!

Now regarding the 55" Apple iPlay device...
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People talking about wanting 4.5" screen...

I'd rather have a phone that fits into my pocket.


It still does, it's the iPad that doesn't fit. After buying an iPad, I can't believe how much LESS I use my iPhone.

I think they have no choice but to slightly increase the size as cramming weather widgets, notifications, etc., etc. is the way of the future and even a 'tad more space' for this kind of stuff will be welcome by the average person.

Although, Apple usually tries to tell us what we want, in this case, I'd like them to listen as I've boughten into their iOS ecosystem and would want SOME choice.
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Originally Posted by CGJ View Post

People talking about wanting 4.5" screen...

I'd rather have a phone that fits into my pocket.

Unless you're a woman wearing tight fitting jeans, a 4.5" phone should fit in a pocket.
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Unless you're a woman wearing tight fitting jeans, a 4.5" phone should fit in a pocket.

That's debatable.

And moot because I don't want a 4.5" screen on my phone.

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Rumors surrounding Apple's next-generation iPhone have been have provided conflicting reports, creating confusion as to whether Apple's next handset will sport an all-new design, or have an appearance similar to the iPhone 4

Oooo, shocking.
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Unless you're a woman wearing tight fitting jeans, a 4.5" phone should fit in a pocket.

Are you one?

No, I don't think women wearing tight fitting jeans will ever wear anything in their jeans pockets, that would defeat the purpose of tight fitting jeans which is to show their curves/shape. They've invented something for that

It's called a purse!
post #29 of 50
Wow, I just watched the so-called bogus video and there's nothing bogus about it

Me wants one! Gotta have one! Argh
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Wow, I just watched the so-called bogus video and there's nothing bogus about it

Other than the fact that it's OBVIOUSLY FAKED.

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post #31 of 50
Unless you're a chick, it should fit.

I've been looking at the new Android phones with the 4.5 AMOLED screens and they look gorgeous. Hopefully Apple takes a design cue from these.

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People talking about wanting 4.5" screen...

I'd rather have a phone that fits into my pocket.
post #32 of 50
A 3.5 to 3.7-inch panel is too small unless the iPhone5 also comes with sandpaper so users can sand down their fingers to a smaller size.
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A 3.5 to 3.7-inch panel is too small unless the iPhone5 also comes with sandpaper so users can sand down their fingers to a smaller size.

Nice misuse of a Steve Jobs quote. It's too bad it makes absolutely no sense here.

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post #34 of 50
How will they transmit a cell phone signal through a metal back?
post #35 of 50
The iPhone 5 rumor of it having a screen under 4" seems like a no-brainer. I thought people were already assuming the iPhone 5 would be about the same form factor as previous revisions, but with the screen enlarged to reduce white space. So much wasted white space on the iPhone right now, it is a shame.
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I think there is more of a need for a smaller iPhone than a larger one. I carry my iPad daily, so I don’t need much when it comes to a phone.

That's what I'd lean towards, too. Or perhaps a smaller phone paired with a larger iPod touch. And with tethering the touch wouldn't even need a cell connection. This is what I've wanted since the first iPhone and touch came out. Just give me a small, simple phone with wi-fi hotspot built in. I carry my phone with my everywhere, so small, light, portable are the top priorities. Then let me choose what data device I want to carry depending on the day's needs...touch, iPad, MacBook Pro, etc.

Sure, it means you are sometimes carrying more than one device, but if one of those is a small phone, is it really that big a deal? You gain the flexibility of what size screen you want and the cost savings of only one data plan.
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

This report makes little sense.

AppleInsider goes out of it's way to say that the video is a known "fake" but then describes a phone that's pretty much an exact match of the one in the video. Then they go on about a larger screen right before stating that it will actually only "look" larger. Finally, AppleInsider mentions a report from yesterday that was published in this very blog about photographs of a "white glass" back part for the iPhone that was (by their own report), clearly made of plastic and not glass at all.

I agree with pretty much everything you said...except that last part. That white glass back was never confirmed as being plastic. If you look at it for more than 2 seconds, you can CLEARLY see a plastic sheet over the back of it. It even comes off the edges of the piece. The plastic wrap was clearly there, but what's underneath that nobody really knows.
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Originally Posted by Yawnstretch View Post

How will they transmit a cell phone signal through a metal back?

The same way they did it with the first-gen iPhone.

Seriously, are you people intentionally being dense? An entirely metal back would be LiquidMetal, which is radio transparent.

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It still does, it's the iPad that doesn't fit. After buying an iPad, I can't believe how much LESS I use my iPhone.

I think they have no choice but to slightly increase the size as cramming weather widgets, notifications, etc., etc. is the way of the future and even a 'tad more space' for this kind of stuff will be welcome by the average person.

Although, Apple usually tries to tell us what we want, in this case, I'd like them to listen as I've boughten into their iOS ecosystem and would want SOME choice.

A slight increase (3.8-3.9) is my guess, 4.0 at the outside or you start to have problems claiming "retina-ness" (I've read the math on the res, current size, etc., but I've forgotten it, if someone wants to correct me), and they'd also have to increase the width of the form factor beyond that point. Which is not. going. to. happen. (give or take possibly a millimeter).

Otherwise you start to lose mainstream users - and Apple's a long way from offering a range of current model form factors (a possible mostly last gen 4S and new 5, notwithstanding).

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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

Nice misuse of a Steve Jobs quote. It's too bad it makes absolutely no sense here.

Try using both a 3.5" and a 4" phone (I have both for app development). You quickly realize that unless you have really small fingers the 4" screen is so much easier to use in comparison to a 3.5" screen.
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