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post #41 of 145
8/30/11 at 5:19pm
Am I the only here offended by the intrusion into Mr Jobs life and right to privacy? I mean come on! Don't you have anything better to write about AI? This is barely disguised trash journalism
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post #42 of 145
8/30/11 at 5:20pm
>>there's a striking resemblance between the two men: both wear rimless glasses<<

Well, that settles it. If both men's DNA encode for rimless glasses then there can be no doubt.
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post #43 of 145
8/30/11 at 5:23pm
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>>there's a striking resemblance between the two men: both wear rimless glasses<<

Well, that settles it. If both men's DNA encode for rimless glasses then there can be no doubt.

Does his father use an iPhone? That's the real question.

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post #44 of 145
8/30/11 at 5:30pm
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Sounds like a pathetic person. It is the father who should reach out to the son and not the other way around.

I also think that people who adopt their babies away are only one step above people who throw their babies in the trash can and they have zero right to ever meet their offspring which they abandoned.

Sometime those are the people who know they can't gice their child a decent life. Keeping the child is the second big mistake. Better to give to a loving couple. A loving decision.
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post #45 of 145
8/30/11 at 5:33pm
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His knawing sense of dissatisfaction was to our benefit.

Let this be a lesson to all parents who want nothing more than to give their child everything. Give them nothing, let them struggle and they will make something of themselves. Happiness breeds complacency. Adversity breeds achievement.

It can work, but it depends on the person. Clint Eastwood, Johnny Cash, Fred Rogers and Steven Spielberg all had great parenting.

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post #46 of 145
8/30/11 at 5:33pm
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Am I the only here offended by the intrusion into Mr Jobs life and right to privacy? I mean come on! Don't you have anything better to write about AI? This is barely disguised trash journalism

On this occasion you are the only one.

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post #47 of 145
8/30/11 at 5:34pm
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No, I'm not adopted. As for having compassion, I don't give it to those who don't deserve it. I don't have any compassion for people who abandoned their children. On the other hand, the children of course deserve compassion, as they had no say in the process. The parents, not so much.

What a scumbag. Actually, I take that back, since you're most likely 13 or 14 years old, and thinking like a little kid (i.e., not thinking at all). People that give their kids up for adoption are not "abandoning" them - in most cases it is because they know they cannot give the child the best life possible, and they are ultimately doing what is right for the kid. How is that a bad thing? Should the parents keep the kid and raise it in poverty or some other terrible circumstances just so they can say they never "abandoned" them? Is that really better for the kid? Get an effing clue, dude.
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post #48 of 145
8/30/11 at 5:34pm
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Sounds like a pathetic person. It is the father who should reach out to the son and not the other way around.

I also think that people who adopt their babies away are only one step above people who throw their babies in the trash can and they have zero right to ever meet their offspring which they abandoned.

The only 'pathetic people' in this story are the maternal grandparents.
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post #49 of 145
8/30/11 at 5:42pm
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What a scumbag. Actually, I take that back, since you're most likely 13 or 14 years old, and thinking like a little kid (i.e., not thinking at all). People that give their kids up for adoption are not "abandoning" them - in most cases it is because they know they cannot give the child the best life possible, and they are ultimately doing what is right for the kid. How is that a bad thing? Should the parents keep the kid and raise it in poverty or some other terrible circumstances just so they can say they never "abandoned" them? Is that really better for the kid? Get an effing clue, dude.

A scumbag, or a little bag that collects scum (condom) would actually be quite helpful for irresponsible people who go around making unwanted babies. And poverty is no excuse for abandoning a child. People are responsible for their own decisions and if you can't raise a child then don't make one.
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post #50 of 145
8/30/11 at 5:47pm
Steve Jobs or Steve Jandali...

One name sounds like it belongs to an iconic computer maker. The other sounds like a great name to own an Italian restaurant or Pizza place.

For better or worse, I am glad it's Steve Jobs.

I know, I know...

"What's in a name? That which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet." - Romeo & Juliet fame from Shakespeare.
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Ten years ago, we had Steve Jobs, Bob Hope and Johnny Cash.  Today we have no Jobs, no Hope and no Cash.

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post #51 of 145
8/30/11 at 5:48pm
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A scumbag, or a little bag that collects scum (condom) would actually be quite helpful for irresponsible people who go around making unwanted babies. And poverty is no excuse for abandoning a child. People are responsible for their own decisions and if you can't raise a child then don't make one.

uh, but the point is that its already too late for such lecturing by people like you - the kid is here and the parents can't raise it. So now what? Raise the kid in bad circumstances, while a perfectly happy and normal couple is willing to adopt because they are unable to have their own children? Like I said, get an offing clue.
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post #52 of 145
8/30/11 at 5:52pm
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No, I'm not adopted. As for having compassion, I don't give it to those who don't deserve it. I don't have any compassion for people who abandoned their children. On the other hand, the children of course deserve compassion, as they had no say in the process. The parents, not so much.

You know nothing of the circumstances but condemn anyway. They've done nothing to wrong you and often their kids end up in a far better environment than they would have been otherwise.

Some may not deserve compassion but the vast majority do. Single mothers, often of mixed race kids, probably not much more than a kid themselves who would have been crucified by society and with no future for either themselves or thier child gives them to strangers in the hope of a better life for their son or daughter.

Dude, get fucked by the high horse you rode in on.
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post #53 of 145
8/30/11 at 6:04pm
Well, if Steve had his biological mother&father and was raised in the regular scenario, Apple most likely wouldn't exist, and if it did, it probably wouldn't be as it is now, it'd probably be Grape, or Plum. Or Cranberry.
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post #54 of 145
8/30/11 at 6:04pm
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Some may not deserve compassion but the vast majority do. Single mothers, often of mixed race kids, probably not much more than a kid themselves who would have been crucified by society and with no future for either themselves or thier child gives them to strangers in the hope of a better life for their son or daughter.

You must be joking if you think that I would have any compassion at all for dumb females who can't keep their legs closed for five minutes and are willing to give their babies away just because they don't like the skin color? In my view, such a mother would be a racist, rejecting their child because of their skin color. If they were so worried about a "mixed" child, then they shouldn't have sex with somebody who is of the wrong color, according to the mother.

Even though I am not fond of the man's politics, Obama seems to have done ok for himself, despite being mixed.
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post #55 of 145
8/30/11 at 6:04pm
I thought I read that Steve met his sister and his biological mother years ago.

Twenty years later, his biological father seems more concerned about himself then of meeting his son.

What a waste - Steve is better off without him.
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post #56 of 145
8/30/11 at 6:05pm
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No, I'm not adopted. As for having compassion, I don't give it to those who don't deserve it. I don't have any compassion for people who abandoned their children. On the other hand, the children of course deserve compassion, as they had no say in the process. The parents, not so much.

So quick to judge others. Someone once said 'don't judge others until you've walked a thousand miles in their shoes.'
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post #57 of 145
8/30/11 at 6:13pm
It is pride and anger that is keeping father and son away all these decades. Time waits for no one.

Very sad indeed! Someone got to make the first move, before it is too late.

If one of them dies, will the other go to the funeral?

Has Steve ever met his biological Mom? I hope these are covered in the upcoming biography, otherwise it is not complete.


So Steve is Syrian? I have always thought he is Jewish. Nice to know. Jobs, however sounds like Jewish name.
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post #58 of 145
8/30/11 at 6:15pm
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Well, if Steve had his biological mother&father and was raised in the regular scenario, Apple most likely wouldn't exist, and if it did, it probably wouldn't be as it is now, it'd probably be Grape, or Plum. Or Cranberry.

Or an innocent butterfly in China might be dead.
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post #59 of 145
8/30/11 at 6:17pm
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Sounds like a pathetic person. It is the father who should reach out to the son and not the other way around.

I also think that people who adopt their babies away are only one step above people who throw their babies in the trash can and they have zero right to ever meet their offspring which they abandoned.

i am adopted, and having gone throug the circumstances, and having met (and been able to stay in contact with) one of my "birth/biological parents" is something i personally cherish.

I am different from Jobs (well, i hope i am as genius, probably not ) so, he will choose to do what he does.

Now in terms of your comment, i find it horrid. having talked with my biological parent, she spent weeks looking over countless families who all wanted to adopt someone, for various reasons.

I have seen people express themselves about how much they dislike this comment.

As one who has heard& understood the process, who was adopted and who has met a birth/biological parent i believe you are an idiot and should talk to people about what going through an adoption (or trying to have one) entails.

As a note, the adoption i went through was due to my biological father losing his job (with extremely slim odds of getting another one) and my "birth family" was already composed of 4 people.

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A scumbag, or a little bag that collects scum (condom) would actually be quite helpful for irresponsible people who go around making unwanted babies. And poverty is no excuse for abandoning a child. People are responsible for their own decisions and if you can't raise a child then don't make one.

after seeing this, i feel ashamed. you can read the line above this second quote of you for the reason... (on that note, i would ask you to answer what you should do if someone who doesn't want a child gets impregnated and wants an abortion (why don't you give to replies, one based off if a condom was used (condoms are not perfect) and if one was not used)

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post #60 of 145
8/30/11 at 6:23pm
Steve, if you're reading this -- go meet your biological father, you just have to be curious about your roots -- I know I would be!
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post #61 of 145
8/30/11 at 6:24pm
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You must be joking if you think that I would have any compassion at all for dumb females who can't keep their legs closed for five minutes and are willing to give their babies away just because they don't like the skin color? In my view, such a mother would be a racist, rejecting their child because of their skin color. If they were so worried about a "mixed" child, then they shouldn't have sex with somebody who is of the wrong color, according to the mother.

That's my birth mom you're talking about. If we were having this conversation in person I'd have kneed you in the groin about half way through your hatefull little spiel.

No, I've never met her but I understand what society was like in the late 50's, early 60's even if you don't. I am pretty thankful to have been put up for adoption. I think for some that might have been easy but most folks I've met that have had to give up a child found it very hard and regret the circumstances.
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post #62 of 145
8/30/11 at 6:41pm
A chance to get into Steve's good graces - and his wallet before he dies. And I think it's pretty shi*ty to plaster this all over the media instead of contacting him directly.

I'm glad he didn't raise Steve because there would have been no Apple Computer.
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post #63 of 145
8/30/11 at 6:43pm
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Sounds like a pathetic person. It is the father who should reach out to the son and not the other way around.

I also think that people who adopt their babies away are only one step above people who throw their babies in the trash can and they have zero right to ever meet their offspring which they abandoned.

Doesn't sound pathetic at all. First, he probably signed legal documents where he agreed not to contact Steve. He is legally not Steve's father and should not suddenly show up on Steve's porch.
But kudos to Steve's biological parents for requesting that Steve got sent to college. Without that promise, Steve would never have dropped out, never have met Woz, there would be no Apple, no Mac, therefore no Windows so we would all be typing on IBM typewriters and sending faxes to each other here in this thread.
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post #64 of 145
8/30/11 at 6:47pm
he probably wants money if Steve was a bum, the father would never look for him.

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post #65 of 145
8/30/11 at 6:48pm
Jandali can hold his breath till he turns blue and keels over. SJ is not the sentimental kind... he got over the natural parents a long time ago. Both Jandali or Simpson found it inconvenient to care for Steve. If the older Simpson was prejudiced, so what? They could have move on their own and raised the kid... both were adult and educated and could have earned a living. Usually adoption takes place because of severe stress with the natural parents or other justifiable cause... not the case here. These were not helpless teenagers. Jandali has nothing but sellers remorse. If SJ succeeded it was in spite of his natural parents.

Kind of reminds me of the Biblical story where the brothers of some baby decides to dump the kid in the river. Eventually he becomes a power minister of the Egyptian Pharaoh. The brothers benefit in the end. May be somebody here knows the story better.
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post #66 of 145
8/30/11 at 6:49pm
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he probably wants money if Steve was a bum, the father would never look for him.

Could you be more wrong? There's absolutely no way you read past the title of the thread.

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Like Jobs, Jandali is also a successful executive. Despite turning 80, he still occupies a vice president position in a Reno casino and leads a very active life. He reportedly rises at 5 AM each day, goes to the gym and drives in his Jeep to the Boomtown Casino and hotel where he works six days a week.

Pretty fricking sure he doesn't want money from his son.

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Kind of reminds me of the Biblical story where the brothers of some baby decides to dump the kid in the river. Eventually he becomes a power minister of the Egyptian Pharaoh. The brothers benefit in the end. May be somebody here knows the story better.

Joseph. His parents treated him well, his older brothers sold him to slavers for it.

Joseph becomes a slave for a prominent Egyptian man who treats him well enough. The man's wife, however, accuses Joseph of adultery, and he's thrown in jail for twenty years.

One of his cell mates is released and becomes an advisor to the Pharaoh, whom he tells of Joseph's work. Joseph's work impresses the Pharaoh enough to give him an even more prominent position than that of his former master.

His brothers come to Egypt in a time of hardship for their land and Joseph sees them and imprisons the youngest of the brothers (they don't recognize him). His brothers have changed, however, and obviously are remorseful about what they had done to Joseph, as the eldest offers himself in place of their youngest. Joseph reveals himself to them and he tells them to bring the entire family to live in Egypt with him in wealth.
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post #67 of 145
8/30/11 at 6:57pm
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Sounds like a pathetic person. It is the father who should reach out to the son and not the other way around.

I also think that people who adopt their babies away are only one step above people who throw their babies in the trash can and they have zero right to ever meet their offspring which they abandoned.

Grow up.

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post #68 of 145
8/30/11 at 7:00pm
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I don't have any compassion for people who abandoned their children.

In most cases, adopting a child out is just the opposite of "abandoning" them. There are many reasons people do it. They could simply leave (that is abandonment) but they care enough about the child to make sure it gets into a good home with avoid family.
In some cases, the people giving a child up for adoption are "abandoning" it because they don't want the child but in many cases, they want the best for the child and for many reasons, they can't give it.
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Steve would not be Steve unless he had the upbringing he did. The hollowness and sense of being abandoned led him to be the ultra-achiever he became.

So his adoptive parents gave him a poor upbringing?
When did he find out he was adopted?
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post #69 of 145
8/30/11 at 7:02pm
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The guy can't pick up the phone but he can talk to the media.

I actually think he did exactly the right thing. For some reason it seems perfect. Which is why this precog knew it quantum-mechanically in advance.

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post #70 of 145
8/30/11 at 7:02pm
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Sounds like a pathetic person. It is the father who should reach out to the son and not the other way around.

I also think that people who adopt their babies away are only one step above people who throw their babies in the trash can and they have zero right to ever meet their offspring which they abandoned.

Wow, you are so insightful. That 12 year old that became pregnant by the family pedophile should certainly be keeping her baby. She is so ready to take care of a child. Oh wait, and the drug addicted mother who can't take care of herself, let alone a child, should certainly be placed in charge of the little one. And that rape victim, who sees that rapist in their baby's face everyday reminding them of the terrible incident, yeah, she's scum for giving up the child as well.

You are a moron of the highest order and your ignorance stinks to the highest level to belch out some idiotic blanket statement like that.
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post #71 of 145
8/30/11 at 7:06pm
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The world was a very different place in the 1950's. Steve's (adoptive parents) are sure were thrilled when they got the chance to adopt infant Steve. We have no way of knowing if Steve was raised by his biological parents if he would have been the creator of Apple. What influence and interest he may have pursued and we would literally be living in a different world now. I am not a fatalist but it is fascinating to think about decision we make sometime daily that have an impact on our lives and others.

I have become quite the fatalist very recently. There's a quantum mechanical theory about this. Time and space being connected etc. Block time. It's very interesting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal...osophy_of_time)

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post #72 of 145
8/30/11 at 7:12pm
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dude, you're an ignorant hateful waste of sperm and egg.

Dude, hating a hater ain't helping.

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post #73 of 145
8/30/11 at 7:15pm
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As an adopted adult, I can tell you, parents are the people who raised you, stayed up late with you and waiting for you to come home, cried for and with you, and loved you unconditionally.

Steve's biological parent may want to meet him, and that's all very nice. But that person is not his father. His father is the elder Mr. Jobs.

To be fair, you are you and Jobs is Jobs. If he wants to meet his biological father it's ultimately a personal decision.

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post #74 of 145
8/30/11 at 7:29pm
The man sounds genuine.

The story is tragic at so many different levels, but at the same time, it was a sequence of exogenous events without which -- to say the least -- not one of us would arguably be here in this forum today having this conversation. And a sequence of events without which the world wouldn't have been a better place.

Ah, the beauty of karma.....

And, to those being excessively judgmental here: give it a break. There are variations of this story, if you probe deep enough, in your own life or family or heritage.
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post #75 of 145
8/30/11 at 7:33pm
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A scumbag, or a little bag that collects scum (condom) .

Downer you are on.

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post #76 of 145
8/30/11 at 7:38pm
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Or an innocent butterfly in China might be dead.

I heard the news - he died anyway.

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post #77 of 145
8/30/11 at 7:40pm
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Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post

Steve Jobs biological father says he lives in hope that he'll have the opportunity to acquaint with his long-lost son, even if its just for one cup of coffee, but refuses to be the one to reach out to the Apple co-founder.
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He reportedly rises at 5 AM each day, goes to the gym and drives in his Jeep to the Boomtown Casino and hotel where he works six days a week.
[ View this article at AppleInsider.com ][/c]

Be careful Steve, any 80 yr old who still works so hard needs money !
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8/30/11 at 7:42pm
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Originally Posted by bdkennedy1 View Post

A chance to get into Steve's good graces - and his wallet before he dies.

Don't fill in hypotethicals with your own unconscious.

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8/30/11 at 7:44pm
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he probably wants money if Steve was a bum, the father would never look for him.

If he was a bum he'd never know.

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8/30/11 at 7:44pm
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No, I'm not adopted. As for having compassion, I don't give it to those who don't deserve it. I don't have any compassion for people who abandoned their children. On the other hand, the children of course deserve compassion, as they had no say in the process. The parents, not so much.

Sorry, you are wrong. What you think of as compassion is not compassion - at all. If you "give compassion" to someone who "deserves it," that is pandering. It is all about you and your status -- and equally less about the person you pretend to care about. It does not even measure up to pity.

Compassion equals selflessness. You cannot try to be compassionate; either you are compassionate or you are not compassionate. Don't continue to delude yourself.
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