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Apple is urgently working with police to recover another missing iPhone prototype, this time left in a bar in San Francisco's Mission District.

The new prototype went missing at the end of July, according to a report by CNET.

Apple's security team scrambled to find and recover the missing device to avoid a replay of the embarrassing incident that occured shortly before the launch of iPhone 4, when a similarly misplaced advanced prototype was found and ended up in the hands of Gizmodo, which paid the finders $5,000 and subsequently published photos of the device just prior to its official unveiling.

Two of the individuals allegedly involved with finding and fencing the stolen iPhone 4 prototype last year, Brian Hogan and Sage Wallower, have been charged with misappropriation of lost property and possession of stolen property, but the San Mateo County district attorney's office decided that arguing a case against Gizmodo would be too much work.

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Apple tracked the location of the missing prototype from the Cava22 bar on 22nd Street in the Mission (pictured below) to a house in San Francisco's nearby Bernal Heights neighborhood. Company representatives contacted police asking for help in recovering the device, which Apple reportedly described as "priceless."



Police questioned a man in his early twenties at the location, and while admitting he had been at the bar said he did not have the prototype or know anything about it. He allowed police to search the house for the device, but nothing was found.

Apple's representatives reportedly offered the man a cash reward for its recovery with "no questions asked," but the man continued to report no knowledge of the device.

Apple never filed a police report detailing the loss (which would have made any reported details of the device public), and has apparently still not recovered the phone. The report noted that the prototype may have been sold on Craigslist for $200, but neither Apple nor Craigslist would comment on the matter.

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Jesus, this is quite a screw-up. How many people do they have to fire before they can get rid of the careless drunks from their payrolls?

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Jesus, this is quite a screw-up. How many people do they have to fire before they can get rid of the careless drunks from their payrolls?

Exactly.
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I hope it wasn't the same person who lost the iPhone 4...
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post #6 of 156
Gizmodo did say, recently, that they would do it again if they had the chance...
post #7 of 156
In related news, DED has lost the article about missing prototype.


edit: Now there is an article. I see what AI did.
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Story here:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20...one-exclusive/


I don't know, but Apple may want to update their usage policy for field testers to prohibit taking prototypes into bars.

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Apple electronically traced the phone to a two-floor, single-family home in San Francisco's Bernal Heights neighborhood, according to the source.
When San Francisco police and Apple's investigators visited the house, they spoke with a man in his twenties who acknowledged being at Cava 22 on the night the device went missing. But he denied knowing anything about the phone. The man gave police permission to search the house, and they found nothing, the source said. Before leaving the house, the Apple employees offered the man money for the phone no questions asked, the source said, adding that the man continued to deny he had knowledge of the phone.

I am guessing that they used FindMyiPhone to trace it and it was turned off at some point. I wonder if the prototypes might be periodically transmitting their location in the background, allowing Apple to know it's last location prior to being turned off. Relying on it being left on in order to trace it once it is discovered and reported to be missing seems like it would be too much after the fact to do much good.

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post #9 of 156
Scavenger hunt?
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I wonder what it's a prototype of...

iPad 3?

next gen macbook pro?

iphone 5?

Look! I just wrote a longer article that DED!!!!!
post #11 of 156
Maybe it was just a Samsung phone that looked like an iPhone.

Last year, Phone lost in April, released in June. This year lost in July, released in Sept? (fingers crossed!!)
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Originally Posted by F1Ferrari View Post

Maybe it was just a Samsung phone that looked like an iPhone.

Yeah, and Apple is looking for it.

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post #13 of 156
Apple should start requiring that only employees who do not drink should be given prototypes.

This is getting ridiculous.
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Apple is urgently working with police to recover another missing prototype, this time left in a bar in San Francisco's Mission District.

Forget about carjacks, assaults, or missing children. This is important! Apple lost an iPhone.
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post #15 of 156
This is what happens when apple takes its time to release a product they are well prepared to have already launched.

I am angry that they allow the WS shsyters to continue to play with the PPS. I hope samsung gets this one and makes makes a copy and releases it before apple does. With the way litigation works, it will be years before apple gets compensated.

I don't understand why apple cannot just come clean as to how well iphone and ipads are selling. Instead of downplaying their sales, I believe it is their fiduciary responsibility to update sales projections if they are greater than what they reported in the last Q report.

Maybe if samsung takes the thunder out of apple, management and the BOD would be more responsive to attacks on the stock price.
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Crazy if true.

Like all large organizations, it's basically impossible to prevent people from doing stupid things, or have nefarious or unlucky things happen. It's amazing Apple is able to keep things secret for so long, and basically all the way to within a few weeks of public unveiling.
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Originally Posted by fjose1929 View Post

This is what happens when apple takes its time to release a product they are well prepared to have already launched.

I am angry that they allow the WS shsyters to continue to play with the PPS. I hope samsung gets this one and makes makes a copy and releases it before apple does. With the way litigation works, it will be years before apple gets compensated.

I don't understand why apple cannot just come clean as to how well iphone and ipads are selling. Instead of downplaying their sales, I believe it is their fiduciary responsibility to update sales projections if they are greater than what they reported in the last Q report.

Maybe if samsung takes the thunder out of apple, management and the BOD would be more responsive to attacks on the stock price.

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post #18 of 156
For such a secretive company, they sure do suck at looking after prototype hardware.

Good to see the police getting involved. You know who to call next time you're inept enough to keep your cellphone secure.
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post #19 of 156
So if it's a new prototype, and it's running iOS 5, how about a location-based reminder that alerts you to remember the device if you're XXX feet/miles/whatever away?

Oops, nevermind, that doesn't make sense...stupid brain...
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.. find my iPhone! \
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Apple was much smarter this time. They covered this iPhone prototype in a Moto Dynatac housing.
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Originally Posted by fjose1929 View Post

This is what happens when apple takes its time to release a product they are well prepared to have already launched.

How dare they do that to you¡

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I don't understand why apple cannot just come clean as to how well iphone and ipads are selling. Instead of downplaying their sales, I believe it is their fiduciary responsibility to update sales projections if they are greater than what they reported in the last Q report.

If only there was some quarterly report and maybe an earnings call where they declared to the 100th of a million how many iPhones and iPads they sold. Gee, that'd be swell.
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The original story on Cnet doesn't make a lot of sense. The entire story (and right now it sounds like a made up story) is attributed to "the source".

1) Cnet contacts SFPD and writes "A spokesman for the San Francisco Police Department said [Apple] did not file a police report". Then Cnet quotes "the source" and says "Apple representatives contacted San Francisco police, saying the device was priceless and the company was desperate to secure its safe return, the source said."
So, either the SFPD is lying to Cnet or "the source" is making it up.

2) "The source" said it was sold on eBay for $200? Now that's just ridiculous. Last year Giz paid $5,000 for a prototype iPhone. Most working iPhone 4's go for $300-$400+ on Craigslist. This anonymous source says a prototype went for $200? Do they think we're stupid? Well, obviously Cnet is, they published the fictional story.

3) Cnet says "Still unclear are details about the device, what version of the iOS operating system it was running, and what it looks like."
So, you're telling me this anonymous source knew which bar the phone was lost at, who's house the police supposedly went to, and how much it sold for on craigslist, but they couldn't describe what it looked like?

I'm sorry, but this story just doesn't add up. Cnet should be ashamed of itself for publishing such drivel. I feel stupider for having read the article. Might as well be in the national inquirer.
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Apple should start requiring that only employees who do not drink should be given prototypes.

This is getting ridiculous.

It was a tequila bar of all places. I doubt the engineer remembered his name when he left the bar.
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Forget about carjacks, assaults, or missing children. This is important! Apple lost an iPhone.

Here's another one of those "if there's a more serious crime, let's stop investigating other crimes" argument. I think the SFPD are capable of investigating more than one crime at a time.
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How dare they do that you¡


If only there was some quarterly report and maybe an earnings call where they declared to the 100th of a million how many iPhones and iPads they sold. Gee, that'd be swell.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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.. find my iPhone! \

They apparently did that and searched a residence but came up with nothing by the time the search was executed. It's also reported to be over a month ago so I have doubts they'll find it before the next special event.
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Originally Posted by udog View Post

So if it's a new prototype, and it's running iOS 5, how about a location-based reminder that alerts you to remember the device if you're XXX feet/miles/whatever away?

Oops, nevermind, that doesn't make sense...stupid brain...

Don't give Apple ideas. They may force their field testers to wear geofence collars (be it bluetooth, wifi or NFC) to determine if they are 5 ft away from the phone.
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Article on Cnet withdrawn. Wonder why ... Probably they just found it.
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craigslist is blocked work here. Anyone do a search for an iphone for sale, in July in that area? Be interesting to see if the seller posted any pics.
(probably hundreds listed, so maybe not worth the effort)

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post #31 of 156
I can see upper Apple management, you know, Steve and his immediate circle

gathered around their 18 inch Magic Crystal Ball,

looking at all the Mere Mortals,

Giggling

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Here's another one of those "if there's a more serious crime, let's stop investigating other crimes" argument. I think the SFPD are capable of investigating more than one crime at a time.

No crime was reported. If Apple didn't even file a lost property report, what crime was being investigated?

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post #33 of 156
Hmmm would it be to obvious to say Apple Engineers / Testers are 'holding it wrong'.
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They apparently did that and searched a residence but came up with nothing by the time the search was executed. It's also reported to be over a month ago so I have doubts they'll find it before the next special event.

So all this happened a month ago and we're just hearing about it now??? The whole iPhone 4 fiasco was known right away (like the next day) and Apple got it back by Monday. CNET has no information about the device at all and Apple hasn't even contact the Police and filed a report??? Something is rotten here.
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They apparently did that and searched a residence but came up with nothing by the time the search was executed. It's also reported to be over a month ago so I have doubts they'll find it before the next special event.

It would be very interesting if it was corporate espionage.
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post #37 of 156
wait. i go to bars in san francisco. where do i apply? (hell, i'd even go to a bar in redwood city if it would score points with apple.)
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So all this happened a month ago and we're just hearing about it now??? The whole iPhone 4 fiasco was known right away (like the next day) and Apple got it back by Monday. CNET has no information about the device at all and Apple hasn't even contact the Police and filed a report??? Something is rotten here.

Vatdoro makes some good points a few posts up. This story doesn't really make much sense.
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It would be very interesting if it was corporate espionage.

No reason to think it was.

I hope the same people from last year don't start crawling out and emphatically claiming it was corporate espionage. They were so certain that someone had paid the finder to stalk the Apple employee, looking for the time to strike and steal the prototype.

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And in a related note, Steve Jobs has requested that he return as CEO to personally belittle, terrorize, and fire the "moron" who left the phone in the bar. Go, Steve!
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