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A video demonstrating a new feature in Microsoft's upcoming Windows 8 also appears to out a bold new design decision by the company to closely copy Apple's controversial shift toward monochromatic, high contrast icons.

Microsoft's Windows 8 video was intended to highlight the new ability of the future operating system to mount and eject volumes, similar to Mac OS X's disk image mounting of .dmg or .iso files or Mac OS 9's .smi or .img image file mounting.

Windows users have historically needed to install a third party tool to mount and view the contents of a disk image file. Windows 8 will finally add the ability to mount ISO disc images and VHD (virtual hard drive) disk images and work with their contents.

However, the new video also shows another element of the upcoming Windows 8 design: a touch friendly Start menu that abandons most of the typical contents of the customary Windows Start menu, and instead supplies just Settings, Devices, Share, and Search options.

Each option is depicted along with a simple monochrome icon that appears to be pattered after the style of Apple's iOS, and widely employed by the iPad's minimalist user interface (shown below).

With Mac OS X Lion, Apple brought its minimalist black and white icons to the Mac desktop, replacing the often photorealistic color icons in many apps' menu bars with highly simplified iPad-like icons.



A history of iconic innovations

Apple's original Macintosh graphical user interface popularized the term "icon" in computing. Prior to the Mac, "icon" held a distinct connotation of religious artwork associated with Orthodox Christianity, related to presenting ideas packed with simplified, metaphorical analogy.

Microsoft copied Apple's iconic desktop, even hiring the same artist (Susan Kare) to craft similar representations of such ideas as folders, documents and applications (all of which were, like "icon" itself, similarly coined by Apple to make the existing concepts of subdirectories, files and executables more accessible to non-technical users).

Apple's attempts to advance the sophistication and look of the original Mac desktop culminated in 1994's Copland, a scuttled effort that had some of its elements salvaged by Steve Jobs to sell the existing Mac System 7 as Mac OS 8 and 9, using a refreshed visual appearance that made heavy use of cartoonish, colorful icons.

Microsoft subsequently adopted the cartoonish look of Copland/Mac OS 8 with Windows XP. Apple then moved toward photorealistic icons first pioneered by NeXT in the release of Mac OS X, where documents and icons were given highly detailed representations complete with translucency effects to take full advantage of higher resolution displays.

Six years later, Microsoft released Windows Vista with similarly detailed, photorealistic graphics and transparency effects. Since the release of the iPad, Apple has reverted the tool bars and other elements of Mac OS X (such as the iTunes source list and Finder sidebar) to use high contrast outlines, reminiscent of the original icons of the black and white Macintosh from 1984.

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I'm liking the monochrome but there is a whole lot of other stuff that seems to be adding clutter and confusion to the UI.
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I never knew MS had a design / R&D department, I always believed the story about them using Apple for that!
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Microsoft copies Apple?? Oh noes!!!
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hey...those icons are from Zune HD and Windows Phone. nice try. :-D
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No. This is the Metro UI style. It's been around since the Zune all those years ago. They're just bringing it to Windows.
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I never knew MS had a design / R&D department, I always believed the story about them using Apple for that!

Have you been watching their official videos of the ongoing development? They are bad. There are kids on YouTube posting videos with better production value, though in all fairness they probably have a Mac.
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I'm liking the monochrome but there is a whole lot of other stuff that seems to be adding clutter and confusion to the UI.

I don't know what were they thinking with that Explorer Ribbon interface.
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NeXTSTEP iconography rocked hard. Mac OS X is not quite there yet. iOS with its round rectangles is awesome too. But there was something about the gray-purplish background and NeXTSTEP icons that makes it look so cool.
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hey...those icons are from Zune HD and Windows Phone. nice try. :-D

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No. This is the Metro UI style. It's been around since the Zune all those years ago. They're just bringing it to Windows.

I was about to say the same thing. I'd prefer to see no Microsoft stuff here on AI at all than articles just dreamt up out of nowhere to get hits/attack Microsoft just for DED's guilty pleasure.

That being said, the Win 8 screen shot is hideous. No consistency whatsoever.
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I don't know what were they thinking with that Explorer Ribbon interface.

"It worked well forcing people to become dependent on it in Office, we may as well force people to become dependent on it in Windows proper."

Something like that?

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"It worked well forcing people to become dependent on it in Office, we may as well force people to become dependent on it in Windows proper."

Something like that?

Office Ribbon interface is messed up. Everything in the wrong place. I was and still feel frustrated with it. If you don't use Office on daily basis you will never figure it out.
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... This is the Metro UI style. It's been around since the Zune all those years ago. They're just bringing it to Windows.

Where do you think they got Metro from?

Anyway, this is just pathetic copying. I always thought they copied a bit but since everyone calls them on it you'd think they would start to move away from it and try to be more original. This is even closer copying than ever before.

It's not just the icons but the changing of the start menu from programs to mostly settings. If you put this bar on the top of the screen instead of the bottom it's basically a copy of the Apple menu. I've seen this stuff for years but I find this just shocking. It's like they aren't even trying to hide the copying anymore.

How incredibly, incredibly pathetic.
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Office Ribbon interface is messed up. Everything in the wrong place. I was and still feel frustrated with it. If you don't use Office on daily basis you will never figure it out.

I don't plan to ever use Office on an ever basis.

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Have you been watching their official videos of the ongoing development? They are bad. There are kids on YouTube posting videos with better production value, though in all fairness they probably have a Mac.

No I haven't seen them, I must go look ...
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There's a good reason why artist types and professional creative people have always embraced the Mac, Windows has always looked horrible. From the fonts to the layout to the color schemes, it's just terrible. Most people who choose windows have no sense of style. Not everybody is born with a sense of style and creativity flowing through their veins, so I guess it's good that Windows exists, because it provides an alternative for those unfortunate people who are not creatively endowed.
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A video demonstrating a new feature in Microsoft's upcoming Windows 8 also appears to out a bold new design decision by the company to closely copy Apple's controversial shift toward monochromatic, high contrast icons.

I wonder if Microsoft has also copied number of icon rows and columns? Anyway, let's sue Microsoft. Do you think Steve's bilogical father can get a cut? It really depends if the Dutch judge would be envolved

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Don't you clowns get it yet??

WINDERS 8 DOES NOT EXIST! It's a Power-Point slide show..... It's a FAKE!
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I wonder if Microsoft has also copied number of icon rows and columns? Anyway, let's sue Microsoft. Do you think Steve's bilogical father can get a cut? It really depends if the Dutch judge would be envolved

Sad, really.

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Don't you clowns get it yet??

WINDERS 8 DOES NOT EXIST! It's a Power-Point slide show..... It's a FAKE!

So you're either drunk, a troll, or completely [can't say due to forum rules]…

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There's a good reason why artist types and professional creative people have always embraced the Mac, Windows has always looked horrible. From the fonts to the layout to the color schemes, it's just terrible. Most people who choose windows have no sense of style. Not everybody is born with a sense of style and creativity flowing through their veins, so I guess it's good that Windows exists, because it provides an alternative for those unfortunate people who are not creatively endowed.

Agreed, but I always thought they used a nice blue on the screen of death though.
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"iPad-like" icons? Doesn't look like that to me.
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Total crap. Android. has used high contrast icons for a long time. I have seen high contrast icon in themes for years. Apple is ripping the idea off as well.

I don't know why I still look at your crap blog
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Total crap. Android. has used high contrast icons for a long time. I have seen high contrast icon in themes for years. Apple is ripping the idea off as well.

I don't know why I still look at your crap blog

Android was actually a BB ripoff before Google switched to copying iOS.

Don't let the blog door hit you on the way out ...
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No. This is the Metro UI style. It's been around since the Zune all those years ago. They're just bringing it to Windows.

i might've believed that if microsoft hadn't had a history of copying apple's creations
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Glad to see Apple moving back to moncrhome icons. All that color leads to a lot of visual clutter, ultimately making the interface more difficult to utilize. Color should be reserved for highlighting items of interest.
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Hey, the copied the one truly dumb thing from OS Xs UI!
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I find Lion's new icons to have too little contrast. Sometimes it's difficult on the eyes.
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NeXTSTEP iconography rocked hard. Mac OS X is not quite there yet. iOS with its round rectangles is awesome too. But there was something about the gray-purplish background and NeXTSTEP icons that makes it look so cool.

I'm pretty sure Microsoft's Windows 95 "beveled gray buttons" look was inspired by NeXTSTEP. The elements are all there: embossed group boxes, inset fields, and raised buttons, all done in gray (as opposed to white like Mac OS of the era. Before NeXTSTEP, UIs didn't look like this. After NeXT, everyone from Amgia to Motif to Windows adopted the "beveled control look."

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Please, please hire a proofreader!
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I'm pretty sure Microsoft's Windows 95 "beveled gray buttons" look was inspired by NeXTSTEP. The elements are all there: embossed group boxes, inset fields, and raised buttons, all done in gray (as opposed to white like Mac OS of the era. Before NeXTSTEP, UIs didn't look like this. After NeXT, everyone from Amgia to Motif to Windows adopted the "beveled control look."

Even when Apple wasn't Apple, Microsoft still copied them.

Seems they just followed wherever Steve Jobs went.

What's next, Microsoft creates their own CGI film division?

Can't wait for Clippy Story, A BOB's Life, Clippy Story 2, Finding Longhorn, Microsoft Inc., The Anti-Trustables, Staerbückes, BALLME-R, Up(grade), Clippy Story 3, and their newest movie, (Internet) Explorer.

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Office Ribbon interface is messed up. Everything in the wrong place. I was and still feel frustrated with it. If you don't use Office on daily basis you will never figure it out.


Agreed, I really liked Office 97. Basically against that standard, other than bigger row limits, and nicer PPT, Office has been downgrades since 1997. It's almost worth running an old XP virtual machine just to run old Office.
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This really seems to be a non-issue. MS has been using this type of icons with Zune for a long time. So what...
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I never knew MS had a design / R&D department, I always believed the story about them using Apple for that!

LOL - they also don't have a software test department.
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Even when Apple wasn't Apple, Microsoft still copied them.

Seems they just followed wherever Steve Jobs went.

What's next, Microsoft creates their own CGI film division?

Can't wait for Clippy Story, A BOB's Life, Clippy Story 2, Finding Longhorn, Microsoft Inc., The Anti-Trustables, Staerbückes, BALLME-R, Up(grade), Clippy Story 3, and their newest movie, (Internet) Explorer.

Windows side has had stronger cgi program support for many many years so this wouldn't surprise me that much.
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Maybe it's just me, but if you look at the graphic and say that Mac had the first icons, but Windows 1.0 had the first color icons, and follow the chart from there, it looks like the Mac icons copy Win icons. The icons that are arbitrarily called "cartoon" for Win XP look a lot to me like the "photorealistic" Mac OS X icons. What it calls Win "photorealistic" looks like super-photorealistic to me.

My first reaction to the Win 8 start menu graphics was that it looks like Palm/WebOS. I really don't see the similarity to iOS...
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I'm not a hater but when it comes to computers Apple rules the effing roost.
Time and time again I have heard nothing but complaints from pc users. But when they see Apple in action they fall in love. That is from my perspective. Screw windows man.
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Maybe it's just me, but if you look at the graphic and say that Mac had the first icons, but Windows 1.0 had the first color icons, and follow the chart from there, it looks like the Mac icons copy Win icons. The icons that are arbitrarily called "cartoon" for Win XP look a lot to me like the "photorealistic" Mac OS X icons. What it calls Win "photorealistic" looks like super-photorealistic to me.

You sound like a terrible creepypasta.

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Microsoft must have a lot of papers scattered all over the floor, if their sideways folder icon is photorealistic. When I was a Vista beta tester, I put in a bug report for that icon, because it unrealistically defies gravity. Microsoft characteristically didn't listen.
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Even when Apple wasn't Apple, Microsoft still copied them.

Seems they just followed wherever Steve Jobs went.

What's next, Microsoft creates their own CGI film division?

Can't wait for Clippy Story, A BOB's Life, Clippy Story 2, Finding Longhorn, Microsoft Inc., The Anti-Trustables, Staerbückes, BALLME-R, Up(grade), Clippy Story 3, and their newest movie, (Internet) Explorer.

Perhaps you are not aware of Dreamworks? It's full of Microosft money, and all it does is copy Disney/Pixar ideas and make them worse, rushing them to market in an attempt to kill the original. No creativity, no art, just an effort to make money churning out cheap crap.

Antz: Bugs Life as rotoscoped actors rather than real animated characters
Shark Tale: Finding Nemo as rotoscoped actors rather than real animated characters
Madagascar: Ripped off the entirety of Disney's The Wild
Monsters vs Aliens: Monsters Inc + aliens
Shrek, Chicken Run: spoofs of existing movies

The only really original work comes from acquisitions of preexisting talent that Dreamworks eventually destroyed, like the Aardman animation people.

Curious that Jobs owned Pixar and 18% of Dreamworks is owned by Microsoft director Paul Allen, Microsoft even created an interactive joint venture with Dreamworks. The company also backed HD-DVD with Microsoft, as opposed to the Disney led BluRay

Or as one cartoonist observed:



Note that Dreamworks has made more movies and more money, but its products are consistently ranked lower by critics and customers: http://www.metacritic.com/feature/pi...ion-comparison
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I'm not a hater either. Microsoft is just irrelevant to my life, and I sometimes forget they exist.
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