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The release of Mac OS X Lion has helped Apple grow its share of the PC install base to nearly 13.5% in the U.S. and more than 6% worldwide, according to new statistics.

The latest tracking data from NetMarketShare shows Mac OS X has been steadily climbing the global charts, seeing its share rise from 5.60% in May to 5.67% and 5.96%, in June and July, respectively. By the end of last month, it had reached 6.03% worldwide and 13.42% in the United States.

Meanwhile, combined versions of Microsoft Windows continued to lead the worldwide market with a 92.90% share at the end of August, as Linux made its way into third place with a 1.07% share.

Mac OS X 10.7 Lion, Apples latest desktop operating system that started selling on July 20, already accounts for 1.03% share of the overall market compared to 1.17% for Leopard and 3.46% for Snow Leopard. Those figures are based on a sample of 160 million internet visitors that Net Applications says it tracks. While Leopard and Snow Leopard's marketshare dropped from 1.24% and 4% as users upgraded to Lion, Mac OS X's combined share still rose from 5.96% on the sale of new Mac models.

Desktop operating system market share by platform, August 2011

Lion adoption has significantly improved when compared with the Snow Leopard upgrade, Apples previous major Mac OS release. The latter claimed just 0.78% share after its first month and passed 1% only during its second month of sales, despite being priced, like Lion, at $29.99.

Desktop operating system market share by version, August 2011

The phenomenon may be explained by the new distribution system that Apple implemented for Lion. The operating system has been sold exclusively through the Mac App Store, a move that may have convinced more customers to upgrade earlier, as compared to Snow Leopard, whose default distribution method was via physical DVDs.

Apple began selling $69 Mac OS X Lion USB Thumb Drives earlier this month to accommodate the needs of customers that dont want to purchase the operating system straight from the digital store or download the large 3.49GB installation file over the Internet.

Mac OS market share worldwide

A day after its release, the company announced that sales of the software had topped one million, making it the most successful operating system launch in its history.
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13 in the U.S. makes a lot of sense at this point, though I refuse to believe it's not higher than that.

It's highest in Switzerland, isn't it? Upwards of 15% there, I think.

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Please tell me this figure does NOT include iPads
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Lots of room to grow, 60% is not unfeasible for consumer market share. Businesses will probably continue their snails pace move away from Windows.

Looks like 1.4% of Mac users still old systems, mostly G4s I guess.
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The release of Mac OS X Lion has helped Apple grow its share of the PC install base to nearly 13.5% in the U.S. and more than 6% worldwide, according to new statistics.

That should be installed base. Google the two phrases and all the hits show the correct usage. Please, please do something about the general lack of professionalism on this site.
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Please tell me this figure does NOT include iPads

Duh! Since Mac OS doesn't run on iOS devices how could it?
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13 in the U.S. makes a lot of sense at this point, though I refuse to believe it's not higher than that.

It's highest in Switzerland, isn't it? Upwards of 15% there, I think.

I am surprised it not higher in the US. I think those numbers will change on the next reporting cycle.
Lion will push those numbers higher....

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If I am reading this right, it means that the wide majority of iPhone and iPad users are still Windows users and not Mac owners.
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If I am reading this right, it means that the wide majority of iPhone and iPad users are still Windows users and not Mac owners.

I can't find the page but I seem to recall it was around 60 / 40 to the PC side for iPads.
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Lots of room to grow, 60% is not unfeasible for consumer market share. Businesses will probably continue their snails pace move away from Windows.

I don't see how when you consider any percentage in Mac OS is also a percentage in Mac HW. Consider how many 'PCs' are sold per year, now consider if 6 out of 10 of them were Macs? How many units would Apple have to make per quarter? Can they handle that when you need HP, Dell abd Acer together to come close 60%?


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I am surprised it not higher in the US. I think those numbers will change on the next reporting cycle.
Lion will push those numbers higher....

I'm sure if we look at consumer sales only, at college students, and non-bargain-basement 'PCs' it would be.
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When did Win XP get 30%? I ask 'cause Windows 7 is on 30% which is good, but since it's been out since '09 I think, some people haven't felt the need to upgrade. Weird since xp isn't exactly the greatest OS ever.

On the Linux issue, you'd think giving away an OS for free would significantly boost marketshare, but since all laptops pretty much come with Windows pre-installed, there's not much you can do. Maybe the Linux community should bite the bullet and buy HP. Then they'd have control on the hardware and every laptop would ship with Ubuntu. They probably can't afford HP, but if it happened, it would make things rather interesting.

MS wouldn't be overly concerned about Mac OS's growth, but they shouldn't be relaxed either. I mean even with their best os out, Windows 7, Apple still sees growth. And if Apple continues to see growth regardless of what MS's best engineers can do, eventually their marketshare will be problematic.
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If I am reading this right, it means that the wide majority of iPhone and iPad users are still Windows users and not Mac owners.

Remember this is based on usage, i.e. users accessing websites that is contributing data to this tracking system.

Usage will be split between business and personal users. I would imagine personal users go to websites more often that business users. They may correct for that to get a more realistic spread of business and home installed PC.

Considering that businesses predominantly use Windows rather than Macs my guess it that the home installed base for Macs is significantly higher than 13% in the US.

What is fantastic to see is that marketshare worldwide is now 6%. That is double from just a few years ago. Even though Windows still commands a healthy share it is interesting that XP still accounts for more than 50%. Microsoft do not earn money from OSes bought 3-5 years ago so that must be hurting their bottom line.
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No doubt. With only 92% of the market they should be in a total panic.

True... 92% seems like a formidable number but if that drops even 2% then that's an area of concern because it's 2% taken away from MS revenues... shareholders tend to like seeing numbers go up but not down... especially if it's shown that that 92% is part of a shrinking market (ie. even if MS stays at 92% but the global number of pc's drops then that's a problem).

The future, though, is mobile and right now MS has a real problem in that area.
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Most people are creatures of habit. This is shown by the number of people still using Windows XP that never upgraded. We can also see from the numbers that a great majority of IPHONE and IPAD users are also using Windows. This may change now that LION is available,however the majority will always stick to Windows as this is the system used by most in the workplace.
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I suppose this is just a percentage of computers and not users. Many people use Windows, OS X, and Linux. I don't know anybody that uses Sun. That must be from businesses. I have OS X Leopard, Ubuntu, and Vista. I use them in that order. I hate Vista.

It would be interesting to know how many people use each exclusively. There are surely people who only use Windows or OS X. How many people use Linux exclusively without any other OS? I doubt very many.

Are there any people here who have bought a Mac and still like Windows better? I've wondered about that for a while.
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I don't see how when you consider any percentage in Mac OS is also a percentage in Mac HW. Consider how many 'PCs' are sold per year, now consider if 6 out of 10 of them were Macs? How many units would Apple have to make per quarter? Can they handle that when you need HP, Dell abd Acer together to come close 60%?



I'm sure if we look at consumer sales only, at college students, and non-bargain-basement 'PCs' it would be.

You have a good point. I wonder what the numbers are for operating systems by Consumer (home personal) Business (work professional). I would consider college student sales to be personal?
I wonder if based on hardware sales OSX versions would out sell all OSes for home/personal sales?

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Most people are creatures of habit. This is shown by the number of people still using Windows XP that never upgraded. We can also see from the numbers that a great majority of IPHONE and IPAD users are also using Windows. This may change now that LION is available,however the majority will always stick to Windows as this is the system used by most in the workplace.

Some of that is true but also some user of XP are using older hardware that might not be able to run Win 7. But not sure if Lion will change Window users from using Windows to connect their iPhone or iPad. But the number of switchers is growing!

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I don't know why, but I have this image in my mind of a rotund robot at MS headquarters exclaiming "DANGER, Steve Balmer, DANGER!"

Oh no. Steve Ballmer has an ace up his sweaty sleeve... he's going rip the keyboard off the PC laptop and add a touch screen, then reduce the battery life. It's called innovation. And all those people who switched to Mac? They'll come back to PC. Just you wait.

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Oh no. Steve Ballmer has an ace up his sweaty sleeve... he's going rip the keyboard off the PC laptop and add a touch screen, then reduce the battery life. It's called innovation. And all those people who switched to Mac? They'll come back to PC. Just you wait.

I never "switched" -- I started on the Mac, my first computer was a Macintosh LC II, 16MHz 4MB RAM, 40MB Hard Drive, when I was 10 years old. Every computer I have owned was a Mac, I have only been exposed to Windows a few times, and that was on school computers, etc when we had to use it.
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I never "switched" -- I started on the Mac, my first computer was a Macintosh LC II, 16MHz 4MB RAM, 40MB Hard Drive, when I was 10 years old. Every computer I have owned was a Mac, I have only been exposed to Windows a few times, and that was on school computers, etc when we had to use it.

Well, you're a rarity. But Macs were quite pricey, unless you bought them a couple years outdated back then (even now people still think they're pricey). Apple has never played the bargain basement game, so most people looking for something cheap (the vast majority of PCs sold) will never get exposed to Apple's products (and therefore never buy them). It's sort of a catch-22. With the iPad, it's harder to undercut Apple, especially if the price difference isn't even 100 dollars. Amazon might introduce a tablet for $250, but even then, it definitely won't have the capabilities or the flourish of the iPad. And so it's quite possible that Apple might actually dominate the mobile market in the future, because of the iPad.

Thankfully though, more people are starting to see the light (thanks to iPad and iPods), since they realize that Mac computers have all these cool features that make your life easier
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I never "switched" -- I started on the Mac, my first computer was a Macintosh LC II, 16MHz 4MB RAM, 40MB Hard Drive, when I was 10 years old. Every computer I have owned was a Mac, I have only been exposed to Windows a few times, and that was on school computers, etc when we had to use it.

Wow. Guess who has that exact model of computer sitting in his bedroom right now?

Small world, innit?

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I am surprised it not higher in the US. I think those numbers will change on the next reporting cycle.
Lion will push those numbers higher....

I really don't see the correlation to Lion. Lion isn't really a selling point for switchers or first time buyers, which is pretty much the only way to increase your percentage of the installed base. Those types of buyers are just buying the Apple brand. They probably have not even heard about Lion. It is not advertised on TV. In my opinion Lion is actually quite screwed up, but hopefully that won't deter Mac sales growth.

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If I am reading this right, it means that the wide majority of iPhone and iPad users are still Windows users and not Mac owners.

Well, I technically still own a Windows PC (as far as statistics go), but I don't use it for anything except games. If more game studios would port their stuff to Mac, I could ditch the PC entirely.

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I never "switched" -- I started on the Mac, my first computer was a Macintosh LC II, 16MHz 4MB RAM, 40MB Hard Drive, when I was 10 years old. Every computer I have owned was a Mac, I have only been exposed to Windows a few times, and that was on school computers, etc when we had to use it.

Hopefully you are a graphic designer, otherwise you must not have had many real world jobs.

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Wow. Guess who has that exact model of computer sitting in his bedroom right now?

Are you a pack rat? I've probably thrown away $100,000 worth of Macs over the years. (now days we recycle them.)

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I can't find the page but I seem to recall it was around 60 / 40 to the PC side for iPads.

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I suppose this is just a percentage of computers and not users. Many people use Windows, OS X, and Linux. I don't know anybody that uses Sun. That must be from businesses. I have OS X Leopard, Ubuntu, and Vista. I use them in that order. I hate Vista.

It would be interesting to know how many people use each exclusively. There are surely people who only use Windows or OS X. How many people use Linux exclusively without any other OS? I doubt very many.

Are there any people here who have bought a Mac and still like Windows better? I've wondered about that for a while.

On the last question. I've known many switchers that say that for a few months as they feel lost at sea for a while. Then, in my experience, they start to love their Mac. I've never known one switch back by choice.
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I suppose this is just a percentage of computers and not users. Many people use Windows, OS X, and Linux. I don't know anybody that uses Sun. That must be from businesses. I have OS X Leopard, Ubuntu, and Vista. I use them in that order. I hate Vista.

Same here. I look at it as different tools. I have a rubber mallet, a sledge hammer, and a finish hammer. Likewise I use Windows mostly for Office and Autocad, Linux as servers and Mac for graphics, email, music and web browsing.

The way they get the metrics is by web browsing history. Not too many people browse the web using a Linux server.

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True... 92% seems like a formidable number but if that drops even 2% then that's an area of concern because it's 2% taken away from MS revenues... shareholders tend to like seeing numbers go up but not down... especially if it's shown that that 92% is part of a shrinking market (ie. even if MS stays at 92% but the global number of pc's drops then that's a problem).

The future, though, is mobile and right now MS has a real problem in that area.

Moreover, it's not just the '92%'. It's who that 92% is, in terms of socioeconomic attributes such as income, education, and achievement. I am willing to bet - and it must be a HUGE source of angst for Microsoft - that every lost piece of share happens from the top down on each of those attributes (rather than from the bottom up).
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Hopefully you are a graphic designer, otherwise you must not have had many real world jobs

Thats a sweepingly silly - almost stupid - statement.
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On the last question. I've known many switchers that say that for a few months as they feel lost at sea for a while. Then, in my experience, they start to love their Mac. I've never known one switch back by choice.

I loved Leopard from the start. It took a couple of days to learn a few things about the different sections. The thing is I didn't need to change very much. Leopard recognized every peripheral device immediately. I only changed the mouse settings because I like the cursor to move faster and I changed how right clicking worked on the trackpad. When I got a Logitech Trackball I loaded a disc for that and set it up.

In Vista the Task Manager must be open at all times so that I can kill frozen programs. Even when the Vista machine was new that was necessary. I really need to find a way to eject Windows from my life.
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Hopefully you are a graphic designer, otherwise you must not have had many real world jobs.

Are you being intentionally dense?

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Are you a pack rat? I've probably thrown away $100,000 worth of Macs over the years. (now days we recycle them.)

So you're rich. Big deal. I got the aforementioned LC II for three dollars.

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Yay...worldwide, Apple are now 1% above being statistically irrelevant.

Puts a lot of the recent 'successes' into focus.

Apple without iOS would be nowhere..
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Apple without iOS would be nowhere..

Because taking 1/3 of the world's PC profits means they are a failure.
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I loved Leopard from the start. It took a couple of days to learn a few things about the different sections. The thing is I didn't need to change very much. Leopard recognized every peripheral device immediately. I only changed the mouse settings because I like the cursor to move faster and I changed how right clicking worked on the trackpad. When I got a Logitech Trackball I loaded a disc for that and set it up.

In Vista the Task Manager must be open at all times so that I can kill frozen programs. Even when the Vista machine was new that was necessary. I really need to find a way to eject Windows from my life.

I have to use it but Windows 7 running in VMWare on my Macs is all I need. I'd get rid of Vista ASAP if I were you though.
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Because taking 1/3 of the world's PC profits means they are a failure.

Only one-third!? Fail.
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At what point statistically will OS X need to reach before the Apple OS takes off? What is the growth rate of OS X users? There must be some point where everybody will have a best friend or relative who praises how good OS X is compared to Windows.

One thing that might happen is OS X will never reach the masses in the low end market. Apple will just get people to purchase iPads. IPads might start to take over the PC industry instead of laptop versions with OS X. Several people here have already mentioned that their iPads are their main devices, and that they go back to their laptops or desktops only for certain more difficult tasks. Aftermarket keyboards for iPads just might help the iPad to really decimate the low end laptop business. IPads are growing in number very quickly. That makes me believe people will keep their older desktop and laptop computers for specialized tasks and just buy iPads on a regular basis.
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Yay...worldwide, Apple are now 1% above being statistically irrelevant.

Puts a lot of the recent 'successes' into focus.

Apple without iOS would be nowhere..

Apple's market cap really seems to support your theory, oh wait a minute ...

p.s. I know I shouldn't rise to the bait
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