Originally Posted by MacRulez
No doubt. With only 92% of the market they should be in a total panic.
Yep, when the opposite 90%+ figure is Apple's share of the $1000+ PC market, and Apple's over double digits in the US (which hasn't happened in a Loooong ass time). Premium buyers are trend-setters, and they're also the bigger consumers of 3rd party apps, accessories, etc. And most people want to be where the trendies are, not stuck in a trailer park with a plastic Dell.
Originally Posted by solipsism
Because taking 1/3 of the world's PC profits means they are a failure.
I wouldn't mind failing that way, thank you.
Originally Posted by digitalclips
On the last question. I've known many switchers that say that for a few months as they feel lost at sea for a while. Then, in my experience, they start to love their Mac. I've never known one switch back by choice.
Frankly, now that I know both, and spend most of my time in apps common to both (Word, Photoshop, Chrome, iTunes), I'm results-oriented and both meet my needs while working. So no religious fervor for me there. I do like the look and feel of the UI much better (in general, not in every nuance), but my brain quit thinking about that years ago. When I sit down, I just wanna get my shit DONE.
I prefer Mac mostly because a) I have to futz with it less, b) replace (nicer) hardware less often and c) because the trackpad experience is immeasurably better. However with the advent of Lion (5 steps forward, 3 back), iCloud and iOS 5, the (more) complete integration of devices will probably stick me deeper into the Mac ecosystem.
Originally Posted by WardC
The Mac market share will NEVER pick up unless Apple can sell a fully functional Mac OS X desktop or laptop for under $500, period....they would have to hit the low price points to be able to compete on a series "takeover market-share" level with the PC market. When you can buy a 15" or 17" PC laptop for under $500, and the MacBook Pros of this size range go for $1799 - $2799....most people simply can't justify spending this much for a laptop (and I am talking about most of the worldwide computer base)...in some countries of the world, that is more money than they would make in a YEAR....so....Apple must lower their price points if they seriously want to compete on the PC side of things in taking over more market share with the Mac.
This has always been the issue with Mac and the much-lower market share: Very high price-points that discourage the average user from investing in a Macintosh.
And, the Mac Mini doesn't count....I am talking about a full machine like the iMac or a flagship machine hitting the sub-$500 price point.
Having arrived from the past in your magical DeLorean with Christopher Lloyd, You've already been well deconstructed by many on every point. But the keys deserve another rep: The iPad IS that sub $500 device that's taken over the post-PC market - which MS has been laboring in for TEN YEARS (and what's their "all-important" market share there?) - and which, along with smart phones (where MS had more than a 10 year "head start") is where most casual users will increasingly be living. And you can get a 50 buck keyboard for it if ya needs one.
And why doesn't the Mac Mini count? Because it doesn't take over half of a desk?
Originally Posted by bettieblue
At work we can hardly get any help from Apple anymore for things like OD/AD integration. We used to be able to, but its like the whole Enterprise support team is simply gone. I look at my Xserve in the rack and wonder what I will do when it needs replacing…get a Mini server??
For better or worse for you, but better for Apple, they've staked their Enterprise and SMB efforts on the iPad and iPhone and are doing quite well in those areas, witness a major Airline rolling them out to all their pilots last week, and a prestigious med school giving every student one, etc., etc.
Originally Posted by bettieblue
I am not claiming anything. Apple makes less than 1/3 of its money on the Mac. Other vendors that basically sell only computers may copy them....so what????
The fact is in Q2 2011 85million Windows PC's were sold. 6% is great, but I look at those charts and 92% is a tad better. Those number have barely moved in 10-15 years. I never said anything about profit, market share only.
BS. The numbers are moving perceptibly both in the US and worldwide - and trends matter more than base numbers any day, not to mention these numbers don't include the new generations of iDevices, where both share and trend are Apple's friends.