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Sprint may have begun installing signal boosting equipment in and around Apple retail stores ahead of the rumored iPhone 5 launch on the carrier in October, according to a new report.

One thing I can tell you is that the electrical contractor that I work for is contracted to install Sprint repeaters at The Domain. There is a Apple Store at The Domain [in Austin, Texas]," a source told Beatweek recently. "One of the repeaters is to be installed INSIDE the Apple Store. There is to be a total of 5 repeaters installed. The equipment is CDMA and 4G (Sprint)."

Sprint's high-speed fourth-generation network utilizes the WiMAX technology. Though Apple has in the past hired engineers with WiMAX experience, no clear indication has been given that the fifth-generation iPhone will support the standard.

Apple is believed to be taking steps to improve reception on the Sprint network within its stores so that interested customers are able to try out the forthcoming iPhone 5 with full reception on the carrier. A similar leak last month provided photos allegedly of AT&T Long-Term Evolution 4G equipment being installed at an Apple Store.

Adding Sprint as a carrier partner would give Apple three of the Big Four mobile operators in the U.S., with T-Mobile the final holdout, though that could change if AT&T's proposed $39 billion acquisition receives regulatory approval. AT&T was Apple's original partner for the iPhone in 2007. The company maintained exclusivity of the device in the U.S. until early 2011 when Verizon began offering a CDMA-version of the iPhone 4.

The Wall Street Journal did report late last month, however, that Sprint will sell Apple's next iPhone alongside AT&T and Verizon this fall. The company subsequently notified its employees to refrain from commenting on the iPhone 5 when asked by customers.

Sprint also recently raised its smartphone termination fee to $350, a move which some have taken to be further evidence that the company will soon begin selling Apple's iPhone. The company has scheduled a "Strategy Update" presentation on Oct. 7; the event is expected to be about Sprint's 4G network plans, though it's also possible that it has something to do with the iPhone.



One analyst believes Sprint could sell 1.2 million iPhones in the fourth quarter of calendar 2011. The carrier posted a net loss of 101,000 subscribers last quarter after facing "intense competition."

The fifth-generation iPhone is widely believed to be a global device that supports both GSM and CDMA networks. The device is expected to feature the A5 processor found in the iPad 2 and an improved 8-megapixel camera.

In August, AppleInsider exclusively reported that television spots being produced for the iPhone 5 would be finished in early October. A pair of recent leaks from retailer Best Buy also corroborate an October launch, though the reports disagree on the exact release date. Apple's manufacturing partners Foxconn and Pegatron have reportedly begun assembling the handset in preparation for an early October launch.

Interestingly enough, Deutsche Telekom began accepting preorders for Apple's next iPhone on Monday, despite the fact that it is unable to provide any details on the device, such as its name, hardware specifications, or expected availability.
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Until I see a customer-taken image of some guy with a polo shirt with the word "Sprint" embroidered on it inside an Apple Store, this is no more proof of anything than anything else at this point.

But that's standard operating procedure for any Apple release, so it's basically common knowledge at this point.
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Sprint's high-speed fourth-generation network utilizes the WiMAX technology. Though Apple has in the past hired engineers with WiMAX experience, no clear indication has been given that the fifth-generation iPhone will support the standard.

Just imagine if iPhone 5 is 4G for Sprint.

Back to reality though, just having iPhone on all three carriers is awesome. There are now no barriers to the iPhone and carriers will have to really compete with each other in terms of plans to get iPhone customers. Or they could create a cratel or "troika" to have the exact same plan on all carriers.

BTW I've said it before I think Sprint is the coolest carrier (don't really know why) so I'm super exited.
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Why would Apple add battery killing WiMax radios, especially when Sprint is thinking of switching to LTE.

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Just imagine if iPhone 5 is 4G for Sprint.
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Why would Apple add battery killing WiMax radios, especially when Sprint is thinking of switching to LTE.

That and when the rest of the planet has ignored WiMAX completely.
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Just imagine if iPhone 5 is 4G for Sprint.

Back to reality though, just having iPhone on all three carriers is awesome. There are now no barriers to the iPhone and carriers will have to really compete with each other in terms of plans to get iPhone customers. Or they could create a cratel or "troika" to have the exact same plan on all carriers.

The iPhone is already on up to 5 carriers in other countries. It hasn't been able to defeat the Android army \
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It hasn't been able to defeat the Android army \

Other than in sales per device. And customer satisfaction. And profit per device.
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Other than in sales per device. And customer satisfaction. And profit per device.

True.... but some folks believe it's the number of devices sold that determines the strength of the platform.

Android fans love to spout the "550,000 activations per day" number. But other than the sheer number of Android devices sold... I don't see much going for Android.

You do get choice in the type of hardware... but you're right... overall iPhone customers are happy.
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Eehh, would any one consider that Steve would make a good creative movie guy? Think about it. He would be a good Science Fiction guy. He could come up with great ideas for future tech in Star Trek. Then Apple could build it. We would buy it. I mean more than what Apple has now. Way beyond what Apple has now.
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T-Mobile's the last "hold out"?!

T-Mo: "iPhone on our network? Never, never, never!"
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Adding Sprint as a carrier partner would give Apple three of the Big Four mobile operators in the U.S., with T-Mobile the final holdout, though that could change if AT&T's proposed $39 billion acquisition receives regulatory approval.

Short of a court battle, the AT&T / T-Mobile deal is dead. Not much sense in even thinking about it at this point.
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post #12 of 57
Sprint gets the iPhone and competition returns to the wireless industry in the US. I think everyone will be glad when we can go back to the days when you picked your carrier mainly on the service they provided, not the phones they offered.
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This all sounds reasonable, save for the inclusion of WiMAX.


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Short of a court battle, the AT&T / T-Mobile deal is dead. Not much sense in even thinking about it at this point.

I think the deal has a strong chance of going through once AT&T agrees to give up a percentage of the spectrum to other buyers.
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I don't who is cheating here. Apple or Sprint. Installing repeaters and signal boosters in and around Apple stores? Someone new with Sprint will be disappointed when they take the phone home and found the reception is suck. Just check coverage with your zip code...
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I don't who is cheating here. Apple or Sprint. Installing repeaters and signal boosters in and around Apple stores? Someone new with Sprint will be disappointed when they take the phone home and found the reception is suck. Just check coverage with your zip code...

Typically they do this because they are inside a building with many connections at once. I think all the phones in Apple Stores have voice and data connections so customers can test the features.
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post #16 of 57
What days were those?

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Sprint gets the iPhone and competition returns to the wireless industry in the US. I think everyone will be glad when we can go back to the days when you picked your carrier mainly on the service they provided, not the phones they offered.
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That's not true. The DOJ signed a suit against the merger. That does not out right kill it. AT&T will have to make some more concessions for it to go through.

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Short of a court battle, the AT&T / T-Mobile deal is dead. Not much sense in even thinking about it at this point.
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Apple wants to make sure people can test their phones in the store. Reception anywhere else isn't their responsibility.


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I don't who is cheating here. Apple or Sprint. Installing repeaters and signal boosters in and around Apple stores? Someone new with Sprint will be disappointed when they take the phone home and found the reception is suck. Just check coverage with your zip code...
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I hope the iPhone 5 can get all of 29 sprint customers! Evo coneeevo is dead as a doorknob!
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True.... but some folks believe it's the number of devices sold that determines the strength of the platform.

Android fans love to spout the "550,000 activations per day" number. But other than the sheer number of Android devices sold... I don't see much going for Android.

You do get choice in the type of hardware... but you're right... overall iPhone customers are happy.



plus, iOS is a choice, android isn't. there are alot of people who are just satisfied or have to settle with 'any other phone'. and that random phone is likely to be an android.
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Just imagine if iPhone 5 is 4G for Sprint.

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Why would Apple add battery killing WiMax radios, especially when Sprint is thinking of switching to LTE.

Uhhh... he did say "imagine." He's not allowed to day dream about it and use his imagination? If you have kids I feel sorry for them, "Hey, stop acting like you're wizard 'cuz you're not, you're a little kid!" Geeshhh.

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The iPhone is already on up to 5 carriers in other countries. It hasn't been able to defeat the Android army \

I laugh at people who really care which phone is #1 in sales, money, users, etc., and go on rants about it. Who the F cares, it's a friggin' phone. Buy what you want and others will buy what they want. Unless you actually work for that company or own a bunch of stock, why do you care? I prefer iPhone, but really could care less what others buy and don't care which is #1 or #2 on any analyst list or pie-chart. Get a life.

If Android having the strongest army makes you feel better in some way, bully for you.
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I laugh at people who really care which phone is #1 in sales, money, users, etc., and go on rants about it. Who the F cares, it's a friggin' phone. Buy what you want and others will buy what they want. Unless you actually work for that company or own a bunch of stock, why do you care? I prefer iPhone, but really could care less what others buy and don't care which is #1 or #2 on any analyst list or pie-chart. Get a life.

If Android having the strongest army makes you feel better in some way, bully for you.

I don't belong to the Android army... I'm patiently waiting to get my first iPhone whenever the new one comes out.

All I was saying in my original comment is that having the iPhone on 3 carriers won't do much. The iPhone is already on 5 carriers in other countries.

Oh, and your tone was very rude. Get a life?

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True.... but some folks believe it's the number of devices sold that determines the strength of the platform.

Android fans love to spout the "550,000 activations per day" number. But other than the sheer number of Android devices sold... I don't see much going for Android.

You do get choice in the type of hardware... but you're right... overall iPhone customers are happy.

If you're looking for platform strength (and not comparing phone to phone), then iOS is still doing better than Android with iPad and iPod Touch considered.

Having said that, I'll take quality over quantity any day.
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I hope the iPhone 5 can get all of 29 sprint customers! Evo coneeevo is dead as a doorknob!

I was on Sprint for over 10 years before switching to AT&T for my 3GS. I had no major problems with Sprint, their coverage wasn't perfect, but was better than AT&T is now where I live. Whenever Apple releases a 4G iPhone I'll definitely compare Sprint to Verizon and drop AT&T.
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Uhhh... he did say "imagine." He's not allowed to day dream about it and use his imagination? If you have kids I feel sorry for them, "Hey, stop acting like you're wizard 'cuz you're not, you're a little kid!" Geeshhh.

Thanks for backing me up there.
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I don't belong to the Android army... I'm patiently waiting to get my first iPhone whenever the new one comes out.

All I was saying in my original comment is that having the iPhone on 3 carriers won't do much. The iPhone is already on 5 carriers in other countries.

Oh, and your tone was very rude. Get a life?

Happy holiday!

Most people know it has little to do with amount of carriers, most know it's unlikey Apple will ever beat Android in user numbers/devices sold (given away). Only because there are only two versions of iPhone at this exact moment in time (3GS & 4), while there are many versions of Android phones made and many different price points and many even given away in buy-1 get-1 sales. So, to use carrier numbers as some measurement is only partially correct and misleading. Go to http://www.google.com/phone/ and compare that to one lone 3GS and one lone ip4 on two carriers, if Apple gets on 15 carriers in every country (if that many even existed) with only two phones it won't matter when compared to number of Android phones, unless Apple makes 6-10 different price points and types of iPhone. And even then it won't be enough to beat Android in sales/users... but Apple wins in profit per phone sold (I think).

Oh, and I'm from the north East Coast where most are not so passive aggressive as Cali people where I live now, sorry my Eastern ways came off as rude, I'll be gentle, okay?
post #27 of 57
Have any of you checked out Sprints web site?

It sucks! Everything about Sprint sucks!

How can a carrier that insists you download "flash" to navigate their site possibly sell the iPhone?

I don't think the "rumors" are correct......no iPhone through Sprint! Well see though!
However; Sprint will not offer the iPhone!
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Most people know it has little to do with amount of carriers, most know it's unlikey Apple will ever beat Android in user numbers/devices sold (given away). Only because there are only two versions of iPhone at this exact moment in time (3GS & 4), while there are many versions of Android phones made and many different price points and many even given away in buy-1 get-1 sales. So, to use carrier numbers as some measurement is only partially correct and misleading. Go to http://www.google.com/phone/ and compare that to one lone 3GS and one lone ip4 on two carriers, if Apple gets on 15 carriers in every country (if that many even existed) with only two phones it won't matter when compared to number of Android phones, unless Apple makes 6-10 different price points and types of iPhone. And even then it won't be enough to beat Android in sales/users... but Apple wins in profit per phone sold (I think).

Oh, and I'm from the north East Coast where most are not so passive aggressive as Cali people where I live now, sorry my Eastern ways came off as rude, I'll be gentle, okay?

No worries man.

Holy crap that list of Android phones is long. I kinda forgot how many there were!
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AT&T, Verizon and Sprint Towers in each Apple Store? Them poor kids will have brain cancer by the time they're 30.
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Hmmmm........

I thought we were operating from the realm of current reality. I didn't know there needed to be room for rainbows and unicorns.

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Uhhh... he did say "imagine." He's not allowed to day dream about it and use his imagination? If you have kids I feel sorry for them, "Hey, stop acting like you're wizard 'cuz you're not, you're a little kid!" Geeshhh.
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I don't who is cheating here. Apple or Sprint. Installing repeaters and signal boosters in and around Apple stores? Someone new with Sprint will be disappointed when they take the phone home and found the reception is suck. Just check coverage with your zip code...

My guess is that Apple has cleverly finagled Sprint into making the cellular network upgrades.

"We're gonna offer the iPhone on your network next month. You have a great network, but just to let you know, we've set aside some space in our networking closet in each store just in case you want to install any gear. Just let us know if you want to use this space."

(Cue sound of Sprint tripping over its own heels trying to stand up.)

Let's face it. Sprint is the lonely chick who finally got invited to the prom. Sprint will do everything in its power to lessen the chances of them screwing up this opportunity.

Apple isn't spending a thin dime in upgrading any network resources in its stores. This is all up to Sprint. Sprint got invited to the big dance and Sprint's going to foot the bill for the pretty dress.
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I don't who is cheating here. Apple or Sprint. Installing repeaters and signal boosters in and around Apple stores? Someone new with Sprint will be disappointed when they take the phone home and found the reception is suck. Just check coverage with your zip code...

Actually it is very common. They do it because they don't want anyone walking out of the store without a working phone and if the signal is weak cause of the building having too much metal or whatever, they can have connection issues.

Supposedly they also put in T-Mobile repeaters last month. And allegedly there are T-MobileUS prototypes coming up in developer data

Frankly I could see it. I would rather see it in one phone but I suspect that it's not really possible to do all 4 in one unit. THat said, if anyone could make it happen Apple could and would. Perhaps not until the iPhone 6.


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AT&T, Verizon and Sprint Towers in each Apple Store? Them poor kids will have brain cancer by the time they're 30.


these are hardly towers. THey are more microcells used to boost the signal inside the store. Probably couldn't handle more than maybe 10 connections at a time.

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post #34 of 57
Wouldn't they want repeaters to also activate phones on the cloud, rather than going over to the sprint store or using a (God forbid) landline for activation (soooo 2007).
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Wouldn't they want repeaters to also activate phones on the cloud, rather than going over to the sprint store or using a (God forbid) landline for activation (soooo 2007).

Not sure if you know this but cell technology is landline based too. Those cell towers connect back to the carriers using wires. Kinda like wifi using access points that connect back to a switch with Ethernet.
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Why wasn't Jesus born in Poland? They couldn't find three wise guys and a virgin.

I hope these links aren't porn, but I'm not clicking.

Please don't quote questionable links. Unless the moderators review every post in a thread (way too time-consuming), those link/spam quotes stay around even after the original post is dumped.

You should go back and edit your post to remove them.
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Wouldn't they want repeaters to also activate phones on the cloud, rather than going over to the sprint store or using a (God forbid) landline for activation (soooo 2007).

Bingo! Much easier to sell the phone if it can be activated over Sprint's network on-the-spot.
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Why wasn't Jesus born in Poland? They couldn't find...

I hope for your country's sake you have nothing to do with diplomacy, foreign relations or indeed customer relations.
It's so offensive to insult somebody else's country.

Whatever that poster had done rightly or wrongly, would you be happy if he insulted your place of birth or residence?
post #39 of 57
That is a silly statement. If AT&T achieves regulatory approval, T-Mobile will cease to exist so nothing would change. The only chance T-Mobile customers have to get the iPhone officially is if AT&T doesn't get regulatory approval. Otherwise, they will no longer be T-Mobile customers.

I suspect T-Mobile is not going to get the iPhone now for one of two reasons or both reasons: Namely, 1) Apple wants to limit the amount of carriers the phone is being rolled out to for fear of being able to met demand, or 2) T-Mobile and AT&T have colluded to keep the iPhone off T-Mobile. It would look bad if all the sudden T-Mobile was looking competitive again.

Either reason for me stinks because I have used Verizon, AT&T, and Sprint. I hate them all.

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with T-Mobile the final holdout, though that could change if AT&T's proposed $39 billion acquisition receives regulatory approval. AT&T was Apple's original partner for the iPhone in 2007. The company maintained exclusivity of the device in the U.S. until early 2011 when Verizon began offering a CDMA-version of the iPhone 4.
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I am Polish. I pardon him. I love Polish jokes. I am a lawyer. I also love lawyer jokes. People are too sensitive nowadays.



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I hope for your country's sake you have nothing to do with diplomacy, foreign relations or indeed customer relations.
It's so offensive to insult somebody else's country.

Whatever that poster had done rightly or wrongly, would you be happy if he insulted your place of birth or residence?
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