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A pair of new reports suggest Apple is shipping its new 27-inch Thunderbolt Display to its retail stores and resellers this week, while individual pre-orders are said to have shipping estimates of Sept. 15.

MacRumors reported on Tuesday that the new displays are arriving this week and will be available for purchase "very soon." Meanwhile, Electronista noted that it has heard of Sept. 15 shipping estimates for online pre-order customers.

Apple unveiled the $999 27-inch LED display, billed as the world's first display to take advantage of the new Thunderbolt I/O technology, in July, promising availability within 60 days. The display requires a Mac with a Thunderbolt I/O port.

The Thunderbolt Display features a 16:9 edge-to-edge glass design with an ultra-wide 178 degree viewing angle made possible via IPS technology. It also includes a built-in FaceTime HD video camera, a 2.1 speaker system, MagSafe charger, three USB 2.0 ports, one Firewire 800 port, one Gigabit Ethernet port and a Thunderbolt port.



Up to five additional Thunderbolt devices can be daisy chained to the display. Additionally, eligible Macs, such as the MacBook Pro, can run two Thunderbolt Displays.

The Apple Thunderbolt Display is the ultimate docking station for your Mac notebook, Philip Schiller, Apples senior vice president of Worldwide Product Marketing, said when the display was first unveiled. "With just one cable, users can dock with their new display and connect to high performance peripherals, network connections and audio devices.



Apple and Intel co-developed the Thunderbolt standard, combining the chipmaker's Light Peak technology with the Mini DisplayPort standard. Thunderbolt currently supports two channels of 10Gbps transfers in both directions and is expected to eventually reach speeds of 100Gbps.\t The Mac maker has quickly added the technology to many of its Mac computers, including the MacBook Pro, iMac, MacBook Air and Mac Mini.

The first Thunderbolt external RAID storage options arrived on the Apple online store in June. LaCie was scheduled to release the more consumer-oriented Little Big Disk Thunderbolt drive in "Summer 2011," but has yet to announce a more specific release date.
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What a completely beautiful technological wonder this display is.
Too bad it's a completely useless piece of shit.
How embarrassing for Apple.
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Mine shows estimated shipping 9/29. Oct Amex is gonna be spensive with that and a few unlocked world iPhones!
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Tempted, but I'd rather wait until the Thunderbolt display has some USB3.0 ports, and maybe a speaker out jack so I only need to connect power and Thundebolt to my laptop.
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What a completely beautiful technological wonder this display is.
Too bad it's a completely useless piece of shit.
How embarrassing for Apple.
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Can't take a break from being a useless troll for five seconds, can you?

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Can't take a break from being a useless troll for five seconds, can you?

Glad you said it.
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Can't take a break from being a useless troll for five seconds, can you?

I'm sure it's easy for Mode. It will leave him just being useless, which I'm certain he gets told that quite often.
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Tempted, but I'd rather wait until the Thunderbolt display has some USB3.0 ports, and maybe a speaker out jack so I only need to connect power and Thundebolt to my laptop.

Do you already have USB3 devices? Just curious what you see hanging off of it. I'm planning on an external SSDs to store VMs but Thunderbolt will do fine.
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Mine shows estimated shipping 9/29. Oct Amex is gonna be spensive with that and a few unlocked world iPhones!

Mine shows shipping on 9/15. I ordered mine literally one hour after news broke out and after purchasing their regular LED Cinema display for my new MBA.

It was disheartening to return that beauty back and resort to using the 13" screen at the office but I anxiously await the Thunderbolt model. Having a wired ethernet port sealed the deal for me.

They are great monitors.
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Although I would hate to give up the real estate of my 30" Cinema, the color is probably much better. The florescent tubes in the 30" don't produce very even color from side to side. Of course I don't have Thunderbolt on my MacPro so it is useless as Mode says.

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Although I would hate to give up the real estate of my 30" Cinema, the color is probably much better. The florescent tubes in the 30" don't produce very even color from side to side. Of course I don't have Thunderbolt on my MacPro so it is useless as Mode says.

They aren't out yet. If they don't release a new Mac Pro soon they may have a new GPU for current Mac Pros or a cable solution that will allow splitting the DisplayPort and data into a single channel. Though I imagine the GPU is most likely.
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My Canadian order reads:

Apple Thunderbolt Display (27-inch)
Available: 20 Sep
Delivers 22 Sep via Standard Shipping
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Are there thunderbolt hubs out yet in case somebody does not want to run a future hypothetical thunderbolt backup drive through the display. As good as daisy chain is a hub still seems more practical to me.

Those displays are awesome btw, I wish I will be able to afford one day.
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are on the market which enable someone to actually put it to use, all TB is worth is an oo and an ahhh. Display? That doesn't take advantage of the bandwidth. It's just a connector. To what?
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Are there thunderbolt hubs out yet in case somebody does not want to run a future hypothetical thunderbolt backup drive through the display. As good as daisy chain is a hub still seems more practical to me.

Well, you could connect the external drive to the computer, and the display to the external drive.


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Those displays are awesome btw, I wish I will be able to afford one day.

I can hear that self appointed troll monitor Tallest Skil now, saying "Stop. Trolling." It's not Apple's fault that you are too poor to buy a such a magnificent display from Apple. And if someone would prefer to have a Thunderbolt adapter with all the same connectors as the Apple display has but without the monitor, would that person be called a troll as well?
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are on the market which enable someone to actually put it to use, all TB is worth is an oo and an ahhh.

Except every Mac but the Mac Pro can use this.

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It's just a connector. To what?

More Thunderbolt stuff, as defined in the spec.

I think you're just playing dumb about this, in which case, stop wasting our time.

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Although I would hate to give up the real estate of my 30" Cinema, the color is probably much better. The florescent tubes in the 30" don't produce very even color from side to side. Of course I don't have Thunderbolt on my MacPro so it is useless as Mode says.

For color accuracy this isn't the way to go, and the led panels are somewhat of a downgrade in that regard from what you have assuming it's in good condition. If you're a photographer, videographer, etc. there are other options you should also consider.

That aside, I thought they were making some method of backward compatibility. Another point, mini displayport never supported 10 bit display signals. On the windows side there are certain supported display/graphics card combinations with a normal displayport connector. I'm wondering if this will come to apple via thunderbolt. Support wasn't added in Lion from what I can tell but I don't know if this is something that can or would be added in a 10.7.x release.
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I'm curious as to how the built in subwoofer sounds. Wouldn't it make the whole display shake slightly?
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I'm curious as to how the built in subwoofer sounds. Wouldn't it make the whole display shake slightly?

There's no real subwoofer. It's the same "2.1" system as in the 27" LED Cinema Display.

If they've actually managed to shoehorn one in there, color me impressed and happy to be wrong.

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Except every Mac but the Mac Pro can use this.



More Thunderbolt stuff, as defined in the spec.

I think you're just playing dumb about this, in which case, stop wasting our time.

Not every Mac, it is only available on new Macs
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I'm curious as to how the built in subwoofer sounds. Wouldn't it make the whole display shake slightly?

Some of the older Sony CRT TVs had built-in subwoofers and they actually sounded pretty good. I wouldn't think it would shake the screen unless you were putting a huge driver in there. It's not like they are going to use some Kicker 12" subs, it's just for a little added bass. Driver specialization in most cases results in better sound. I don't know the particular details about the audio in the on topic displays though.
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Well, you could connect the external drive to the computer, and the display to the external drive.

When Thunderbolt was announced, didn't they say that the displays have to be the last item in the daisy chain? So connecting a drive to the display wouldn't work, would it? Or is that only true if the display is using DisplayPort instead of Thunderbolt?
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I hope a Thunderbolt Mac Pro will come out soon, now that this monitor is here.
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The macrumors article also correctly noted that the Thunderbolt monitor has a FireWIre 800 port. This info is missing from the Appleinsider article..
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I'm sure it's a top quality display, but most users probably will find it a bit large and way too pricey. If Apple comes out with a smaller display for a few hundred bucks less, it will be a winner. For now I'd prefer Apple to support the USB 3.0 standard, at least until Thunderbolt peripherals become mainstream and more practical.
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Originally Posted by Mode View Post

What a completely beautiful technological wonder this display is.
Too bad it's a completely useless piece of shit.
How embarrassing for Apple.
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Its great for people who needs a color balance monitor but for the average Joe, you better off getting the same thing for 1/3 of the price and get anti-glare has a bonus.
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I'm sure it's a top quality display, but most users probably will find it a bit large and way too pricey. If Apple comes out with a smaller display for a few hundred bucks less, it will be a winner. For now I'd prefer Apple to support the USB 3.0 standard, at least until Thunderbolt peripherals become mainstream and more practical.

What good will a USB3.0 hub do on a monitor that is designed to work on Macs that only have support for USB2.0? Remember, this is all coming off of Thunderbolt, which is much faster than USB3.0, so it's possible that a firmware update could allow these Thunderbolt displays to have USB3.0 once they start offering it in Macs.
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are on the market which enable someone to actually put it to use, all TB is worth is an oo and an ahhh. Display? That doesn't take advantage of the bandwidth. It's just a connector. To what?

For starters, the GigE, USB ports, Firewire 800, HD Camera, display audio and mic all hang off the Thunderbolt I/O channels. For now, I'm just seeing storage devices with Thunderbolt interfaces announced.

http://www.lacie.com/technologies/te...y.htm?id=10039 looks neat. I'm waiting for empty enclosures so I can do custom storage.
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Originally Posted by jfanning View Post
Not every Mac, it is only available on new Macs

Which is every single Mac but the Mac Pro. Like I said.
 

Originally Posted by Jafu View Post
I'm sure it's a top quality display, but most users probably will find it a bit large and way too pricey.

It's not for most users.


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Which is… every single Mac but the Mac Pro. Like I said.

You have to understand that jfanning has a learning disability. When you say every Mac clearly implying every new Mac, save for the Mac Pro which you mentioned, he doesn't understand that you don't mean every Mac going back to 1984. He simply doesn't have the ability to think critically about what is written so you either have to go to painstaking lengths to cover every foolish and pointless angle or just ignore him.
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What a completely beautiful technological wonder this display is.
Too bad it's a completely useless piece of shit.
How embarrassing for Apple.
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I always love this self-centered worldview, useless for me = useless for basically everybody. It carries this nice assumption that one's value judgements are the only valid judgements.
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are on the market which enable someone to actually put it to use, all TB is worth is an oo and an ahhh. Display? That doesn't take advantage of the bandwidth. It's just a connector. To what?

Adding FW800 and GbitEthernet to a MacBook Air is not taking advantage of TB?
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Tempted, but I'd rather wait until the Thunderbolt display has some USB3.0 ports, and maybe a speaker out jack so I only need to connect power and Thundebolt to my laptop.

PORTS

Three powered USB 2.0 ports
FireWire 800 port
Gigabit Ethernet port
Thunderbolt port
Kensington security slot

Apple Thunderbolt Display (27-inch)
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What good will a USB3.0 hub do on a monitor that is designed to work on Macs that only have support for USB2.0? Remember, this is all coming off of Thunderbolt, which is much faster than USB3.0, so it's possible that a firmware update could allow these Thunderbolt displays to have USB3.0 once they start offering it in Macs.

You don't need USB 3 support (whatever that means) to add a USB 3 port to a Mac. Both the 17" MBP and the Mac Pro can easily have a USB 3 port via a PCI expansion card (in the same manner as they could have eSATA ports for years), you can even add an eSATA port to any Mac once Apple put the optical drive on a SATA port.
TB just adds the option to add a USB 3 port (or technically any port that can be put on PCI which is basically everything) to all Macs that have TB.
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you can even add an eSATA port to any Mac once Apple put the optical drive on a SATA port.

Would you like to explain to me how you're supposed to plug anything in to the aforementioned eSATA port via the what, OPTICAL DRIVE'S SATA PORT when an eSATA port is larger than the slot for discs where the ODD once was?

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are on the market which enable someone to actually put it to use, all TB is worth is an oo and an ahhh. Display? That doesn't take advantage of the bandwidth. It's just a connector. To what?

My iMac 27 has 2 TB ports -- one drives an old 23" Cinema display through a mini-display - to zzz* adapter.

* whatever the Cinema Display uses -- too lazy to look it up

...and the Promise Pegasus is a thing of beauty and faster than the internal HDD.

... Only issue is that TimeMachine won't let me backup part of the pegasus to another part of the pegasus.
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whatever the Cinema Display uses -- too lazy to look it up

DVI. Unless it's a plastic Cinema Display, then it's ADC.

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Would you like to explain to me how you're supposed to plug anything in to the aforementioned eSATA port via the… what, OPTICAL DRIVE'S SATA PORT when an eSATA port is larger than the slot for discs where the ODD once was?

You just plug a cable that has a SATA port at one end and a eSATA port at the other end into the internal SATA port to which the optical drive is connected. That cable should be thin enough to fit through the optical drive slot (otherwise you just have to file a slightly bigger opening into the slot). Of course, you have to remove the optical drive for that but who needs an optical drive much these days.
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DVI. Unless it's a plastic Cinema Display, then it's ADC.

Yeah, it is plastic... BTW, it has a matte display -- looks OK, but I prefer the 27".
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You just plug a cable that has a SATA port at one end and a eSATA port at the other end into the internal SATA port to which the optical drive is connected. That cable should be thin enough to fit through the optical drive slot

Except the ports at the ends of the cable can't fit through the slot

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Of course, you have to remove the optical drive for that but who needs an optical drive much these days.

That's not the issue here. The issue is thateven if you somehow manage to get the ports through the slotyou have some kitbashed cable DANGLING out of your computer.

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