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post #41 of 145
iCloud is irrelevant to this discussion.

64GB doesn't merely allow more music, it allows more apps and games, which are getting increasingly large in size.

I hit my 32GB's capacity with apps and video podcasts far earlier than I ever would with relatively small music files.
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same two capacities it has been for years: 16 and 32 gigabytes.



Weak. Very weak.
post #43 of 145
Select the tab "Compatible Phones" on this page ..
http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/shop/mobi...ne-sure-signal

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A product listing on the website for U.K. carrier Vodafone has implied that Apple's next-generation iPhone will be offered in black and white, and available in the same two capacities it has been for years: 16 and 32 gigabytes.

The product page for the Vodafone Sure Signal, which works as a signal booster for the carrier's network, offers a list of phones compatible with the device. The carrier's site makes mention of four "iPhone 5" models, with capacities of 16GB and 32GB and colors of black and white.

Of course, it's possible that the listing is a typo, or even presumptive. But it does mention in addition the iPhone 4, iPhone 3GS and even the iPhone 3G first released in 2008.

If accurate, the mention of a next-generation iPhone would mean that Apple's handset would not gain a 64GB capacity model. Both the iPod touch and iPad have high-end models with 64GB of flash storage available, while the iPhone currently tops off at 32GB.

The page would also suggest that Apple will offer a white variant of its iPhone 5 at launch. Apple had troubles with paint mixtures in assembling its white iPhone 4, and was pushed back 10 months from its originally scheduled June 2010 debut.



While the capacities and colors listed by Vodafone would be identical to the currently available iPhone 4, Apple's next-generation handset is expected to have an 8-megapixel camera for higher resolution photos. The device is also likely to sport the same custom-built A5 processor found in the iPad 2.

Apple is widely expected to have a press event in the coming weeks to publicly unveil its next-generation iPhone. Numerous rumors have suggested the fifth-generation iPhone will go on sale in October.
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Select the tab "Compatible Phones" on this page ..
http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/shop/mobi...ne-sure-signal

Yes, the image is already in the article. We know what it looks like

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post #45 of 145
Assuming the site is legit of course. Click the video:

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post #46 of 145
Does anybody not think that Apple has a good reason for their decision? I don't know what that particular reason might be, but does anybody really believe that they're not making a 64 GB model just so that they can be douches? Perhaps there's some technical reason behind it. Maybe the new phone is so damn thin that they couldn't fit in more RAM? Who knows..............Hell, maybe this rumor is bogus and there will be a 64 GB model.
post #47 of 145
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It is a problem to fit 64GB inside an iPhone. iPod Touch can have 64gig since it does not need logic board for data/more.

Memory technology has shrunk since the last iPhone. But I believe Apple instead of going 64gig, will make the iPhone thinner.

Way back in the iPod days, Apple had 2 thickness of the iPods. The thicker model had double the space. I wish Apple could do something like this for the iPhone. Have a bit thicker model with 64gig.

No Kidding. I like thin, but really don't need my phone to be even thinner than the current iPhone. I'd rather have a thicker phone with more memory and a bigger battery than a thinner-than-the-current iPhone.
post #48 of 145
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Assuming the site is legit of course. Click the video:

http://fliiby.com/file/1056494/olup783lw7.html

100% fake and weeks old.

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post #49 of 145
Damn,

My 32 gig iPhone 4 is maxed out! No space to load larger games even.

I have been holding out for a 64gig model for many years now.

I am not sold on the cloud. It doesn't help me in Europe where I can't afford a data plan, or while taken a cross country flight, or when I am in a subway, or a location where I can't get a good connection.

I listen to a lot of podcasts, watch and shoot a lot of videos.

Please Apple give me more RAM not a cloudy vapor.
post #50 of 145
Dearest Apple, sell me a 64GB or even a 128GB iPhone. Charge whatever you want. I 'll camp overnight on the street to pay for it on day one.
post #51 of 145
Can someone point me to A SINGLE PHONE that has 64GB built in memory? Yeah, didn't think so. I love how people are acting like 64GB is whats normal these days, when pretty much not a single consumer phone has this capacity.
post #52 of 145
Why on earth did Vodafone feel the need to list black and White model or both capacity for that matter when the booster would work the same regardless. Are they think we are thick?
post #53 of 145
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Can someone point me to A SINGLE PHONE that has 64GB built in memory? Yeah, didn't think so. I love how people are acting like 64GB is whats normal these days, when pretty much not a single consumer phone has this capacity.

This.
post #54 of 145
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Why on earth did Vodafone feel the need to list black and White model or both capacity for that matter when the booster would work the same regardless. Are they think we are thick?

It probably pulls the names from the store, so it's showing all the store items they've checked.

I guess how their billing system works like that.
post #55 of 145
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If accurate, the mention of a next-generation iPhone would mean that Apple's handset would not gain a 64GB capacity model.


Or that the 64GB model is not compatible with the device they are advertising.

Just to be thorough with the logic.
post #56 of 145
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Can someone point me to A SINGLE PHONE that has 64GB built in memory? Yeah, didn't think so. I love how people are acting like 64GB is whats normal these days, when pretty much not a single consumer phone has this capacity.

Built-in, no...but many phones have SD or MicroSD slots which can take 64GB cards. There are already 256GB MicroSD and SD cards, which are too expensive, but 128GB cards can be found for under $180.

Those of us who want those capacities know it's entirely possible for Apple to offer it on the iPhone (albeit at increased cost/size). We're wanting it because we've been consistently deleting stuff off our iPhones to make room for TV shows, movies, apps, photos, PDFs, Keynotes, video recordings, etc... in addition to music, which iCloud helps, but doesn't really reduce the desire for more storage.

I certainly prefer built-in memory over SD or MicroSD, but when the built-in maximum is so much less than the competitive option, it makes me consider the storage option as a disadvantage for the iPhone.

And to put this in perspective, the amount of storage I'd want before it's simply not an issue is much, much greater...like about 2-3TB (and growing). Until then, the phone is a device that I'm constantly filtering what I really want to carry around with me at the sacrifice of other content, and spending time to do that filtering. The larger the capacity, the less work and more content I can have.
post #57 of 145
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Why on earth did Vodafone feel the need to.....
Are they think we are thick?

BAHAHA!
post #58 of 145
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

It already has that. Two 32GB chips, which is how the iPhone has a 32GB option.

The iPod touch could get two 64GB chips this year, meaning 128GB and likely the retirement of the iPod classic.

Only if they give it a 50% price discount as well
post #59 of 145
All this arguing against the cloud and citing overpriced data plans; everyone's aware that the iPhone has Wi-Fi connectivity built in, yes?
post #60 of 145
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Built-in, no...but many phones have SD or MicroSD slots which can take 64GB cards. There are already 256GB MicroSD and SD cards, which are too expensive, but 128GB cards can be found for under $180.

Those of us who want those capacities know it's entirely possible for Apple to offer it on the iPhone (albeit at increased cost/size). We're wanting it because we've been consistently deleting stuff off our iPhones to make room for TV shows, movies, apps, photos, PDFs, Keynotes, video recordings, etc... in addition to music, which iCloud helps, but doesn't really reduce the desire for more storage.

I certainly prefer built-in memory over SD or MicroSD, but when the built-in maximum is so much less than the competitive option, it makes me consider the storage option as a disadvantage for the iPhone.

And to put this in perspective, the amount of storage I'd want before it's simply not an issue is much, much greater...like about 2-3TB (and growing). Until then, the phone is a device that I'm constantly filtering what I really want to carry around with me at the sacrifice of other content, and spending time to do that filtering. The larger the capacity, the less work and more content I can have.

So what you're saying is that you want your entire home computer network's combined storage capacity in your pocket at all times locally on your phone, and you won't be satisfied until that's the case? How many hours are in your day? Do you have a job that you have to go to?

Do you need to have access to 20 different complete TV series, your entire movie collection, your entire music library, all the games you've ever played on an iOS device, all the apps you ever downloaded from the App Store, and all the pictures you've ever taken on your phone or imported to iPhoto?

Even if you are just a teenager from a well off family whose daddy has paid for all of your gadgets and you have no other interests than the digital world (and I'm not saying this is the case for you), how could you possibly be spending enough time out and about to where your phone is your primary computing and media consumption device 99% of the time? Isn't it much more enjoyable to watch a movie or TV show on a screen at least as large as the iPad's, if not a laptop/desktop, or better yet, a real TV?

In the routine of my daily life, I have a 55 minute train commute to and from work every day, which I consider longer than most. That gives me about 2 hours a day where my iOS device (in this case a 32GB 3G iPad 2) is my primary computing/media consumption channel. I have 1,000 songs, 20 games, 2 whole 10 episode (60 minute runtime) TV series seasons in 720p, all my Keynote and Numbers files for work, plus all my personal iWork documents, and about 40 other news/utility/productivity/entertainment apps plus their data and files on my device, and I still have about 12 GB free on it.

The point is this - on my two hour daily round trip commute - the only time in my daily routine where the iPad is my ONLY source for computing/media consumption/game playing...how on Earth would I EVER find time to actually consume the amount of data sitting inside it? If I choose to watch the TV shows, I can only get through two of those episodes, and not have time to consume any other media or data. If I am doing work using iWork, I could listen to music at the same time, and maybe get through the equivalent of two albums, or maybe 200 MB of music. With about 4 GB of music to choose from, I'm not really wanting for choice there. If I play a game or two, even if I choose to listen to my music instead of the game's, same deal there, lots to choose from.

I certainly don't have time to sift through my full 15,000 song library for a half hour to find that secure track I haven't listened to or thought about in years, or feel the urge to watch episode 6 of the third season of Curb Your Enthusiasm suddenly, or replay Across Age again after I've already beaten it - twice, or rewatch the Matrix for the 100th time. I'd rather watch that on my large screen TV at home anyway in full surround sound.

I am in no way trying to tell you how to use your device, but I mean how are all of you finding the time in your days to waste on watching video or playing games hunched over your iPhones 6-12 inches from your face for 6 to 8 hours a day??? (which is what I would consider the necessary time requirement to be able to notice that you don't actually have access to your entire digital database of media and programs...) Wouldn't your batteries die before that? Wouldn't you have access to more preferable platforms (TV or computer) when at home?

Don't you think it's boring to rewatch TV shows and movies all the time? Do you really routinely listen to more than say 10% of your entire music library? Do you really play and concentrate on more than 5-10 games at one time regularly until you beat them? Do you really replay those games more than 2 or 3 times - even the great ones like the Final Fantasies?

I tend to delete shows and movies from my device as I watch them, same with games as I beat them, why have them there if I'm not going to use them? All they do is create clutter, it doesn't even have that much to do with the space they take up. Who wants to scroll through hundreds of irrelevant videos to find what I want when I won't ever watch them anyway? Same with music and games.

I just want to understand this digital hoarding that a lot of you seem to partake in. Its like you all have closets full of old shoes going back to childhood, and garages full of old bicycles and lawn mowers.

Why do you need access to 100% of your stuff 100% of the time?
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Weak. Very weak.

Guess what, the screen is going to be glossy too!
post #62 of 145
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All this arguing against the cloud and citing overpriced data plans; everyone's aware that the iPhone has Wi-Fi connectivity built in, yes?

Meaning what? There's not Wi-Fi everywhere and you're forced to have a data plan. The discussion is relevant.

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post #63 of 145
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So what you're saying is that you want your entire home computer network's combined storage capacity in your pocket at all times locally on your phone, and you won't be satisfied until that's the case?

Nope. But what was truly revolutionary about the iPod was that you had plenty enough storage space (at the old low-bitrate norms) to fit your entire music collection. Stuff that you have had for years, new stuff, stuff you've been meaning to listen to, everything.

Not anymore. More and more commonly, the standard unit of consumption is the discography, and the standard format is lossless. But with the ultra-low capacity of the iPhone, you can't store much. Instead, you need to pick and choose.

As an example: The other day, an obscure band came up in conversation, Urge Overkill. Everybody liked the name, but nobody had actually heard their music. Somebody had an old-school iPod, and thought that they had a few albums by the band. They checked, and yes indeed, they did.

We all listened, and several people really liked the band (including me). The iPhone users had only stuff that was parsed and curated and triple-checked for space limitations. The iPod owner could pull up the obscure stuff, and we all broadened our horizons.

I can imagine a similar scenario with movies. "What? You don't know the Coen Brothers? I've got all their stuff right here! Let me pick out a good one for your introduction."

How about pictures? Why NOT have all of your picture albums, going back to when the kids were little? "Oh - you're going to Tanzania? I've got my vacation pics if you want to see them..."
post #64 of 145
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As an example: The other day, an obscure band came up in conversation, Urge Overkill. Everybody liked the name, but nobody had actually heard their music. Somebody had an old-school iPod, and thought that they had a few albums by the band. They checked, and yes indeed, they did.

We all listened, and several people really liked the band (including me). The iPhone users had only stuff that was parsed and curated and triple-checked for space limitations. The iPod owner could pull up the obscure stuff, and we all broadened our horizons.

Of course in theory, with iTunes match, he could have done that on any sized iPhone.
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post #65 of 145
Who cares? I'll buy whatever it is because I'm an Apple whore. Feels so good.
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Of course in theory, with iTunes match, he could have done that on any sized iPhone.

Only if the theory includes iTunes stocking lots of old obscure bands that never had any hits. Do they have the complete Sun Ra discography? The Dead Milkmen? Son House?
post #67 of 145
All these *leaks* *previews* are suggesting a rather mundane update. The phone may be thinner. A5 processor replacing A4. It may or may not have a larger screen. What of edge-to-edge screen? That rumor seems to have died. Let's not forget 8MP camera. NFC seems to be a forgotten thing.

But wait - the mute button might move. Woo hoo!

Have we reached the point in smartphone design such that no groundbreaking change is left? This once happened in the PC industry. Then application-specific designs were developed - workstations for those involved in CAD and animation; laptops for workers on the go; netbooks; ...

Will this happen in the smartphone industry? Or are we seeing that already in the form of the tablet, not to mention iPod Touch?
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Only if the theory includes iTunes stocking lots of old obscure bands that never had any hits. Do they have the complete Sun Ra discography? The Dead Milkmen? Son House?

I believe they upload what they dont recognise. So, they will.
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All these *leaks* *previews* are suggesting a rather mundane update. The phone may be thinner. A5 processor replacing A4. It may or may not have a larger screen. What of edge-to-edge screen? That rumor seems to have died. Let's not forget 8MP camera. NFC seems to be a forgotten thing.

But wait - the mute button might move. Woo hoo!

Have we reached the point in smartphone design such that no groundbreaking change is left? This once happened in the PC industry. Then application-specific designs were developed - workstations for those involved in CAD and animation; laptops for workers on the go; netbooks; ...

Will this happen in the smartphone industry? Or are we seeing that already in the form of the tablet, not to mention iPod Touch?

Revolutions are followed by evolutions. I dont even think that Apple have another product which can be as revolutionary as the last two - iPhone an iPad. I dont think they will be as impressive with whatever they do in TV, and after that?.... I dont think much is left.
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I used to feel this way. Always got the biggest and baddest iPhone.
Then I got an iPad with 64G.
All of a sudden I realized that I'm no longer using the memory on my iPhone.

Guess I'll be saving $100 when the iP5 comes out. Mostly, I use my iPhone for phone calls and texts these days.

I was the same. I hardly have anything on my iPhone 4 32gb since I bought my iPad 2. I have 24gb free on the iPhone now.
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Sure that could happen however that will use data. Given the paucity of data plans (at least in the US) I do not want to be having to pay for more data just because of limited space on my phone.

64 GB makes sense and I would be surprised if Apple stick with 32GB for the second model running.

I'm ready to replace my 3GS 32GB. It would be ideal if my next model was 64GB.

Mostly if you need 64GB of space though, it's because your a gamer, just like mostly if you are interested in a big screen it's for the same reason.

If the large screen model we've seen rumours of is actually the new iPod touch, and it comes in 64GB like last time, I don't see how only a tiny fraction of customers would be upset that the new iPhone 5 is only 32GB.

I have a pretty huge music collection and carry most of it around with me and I can get by with 32GB. The average person is not going to be put out by "only" having 32GB of space on their phone.
post #72 of 145
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Meaning what? There's not Wi-Fi everywhere and you're forced to have a data plan. The discussion is relevant.

Relevant, yes.

Cause for bemoaning, avoidance of purchase and other such extremes; no.
post #73 of 145
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Only if the theory includes iTunes stocking lots of old obscure bands that never had any hits. Do they have the complete Sun Ra discography? The Dead Milkmen? Son House?

False. If you have the music, which was the original assumption, then it will be in the cloud and downloadable to your device. Or did you have some other idea about how to get music onto your 2TB iphone other than already owning it on your PC?
post #74 of 145
With the camera resolutions increasing over the various iPhone generations, it would be nice to see a bump in capacity to compensate. Also, the iPhone screen resolution quadrupled in the last generation as well which means higher resolution textures for newer apps which consumes more space. Without a bump storage, we can fit less amount of pictures, videos and applications with each generation.
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Revolutions are followed by evolutions. I dont even think that Apple have another product which can be as revolutionary as the last two - iPhone an iPad. I dont think they will be as impressive with whatever they do in TV, and after that?.... I dont think much is left.

I wasn't talking about another product. I was talking about evolutionary upgrades in the iPhone line. From the first iPhone to the 3G, from 3GS to 4, there were interesting, surprising, significant upgrades. I am just wondering if all the surprises are out of the bag.
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Only if the theory includes iTunes stocking lots of old obscure bands that never had any hits. Do they have the complete Sun Ra discography? The Dead Milkmen? Son House?

I laughed out loud when you said that Urge Overkill was obscure, that was funny...but that's besides the point.

So you are saying that you want a 2 TB phone just so that every once in a while you can be a conversation superstar when the odd opportunity arises? Anything that has ever been on the iTunes Store will be available to match. Ever heard of The Deaths? They can easily be classified as obscure, having never gained any fame outside of the Minneapolis/St. Paul area...both of their albums are on iTunes.

The point is, especially for music and photos - iCloud makes those things only a click away - if you own the music and have it in you iTunes library, it will be available to you through iCloud if you are subscribed to the mayching service. It is very relevant to speak of iCloud in this discussion if the argument is about music and photo storage.

The comment about showing a good example of the Coen Brothers - are you serious? "Here, let's just crowd around my phone together and watch Fargo!" Yeah right!
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…avoidance of purchase…

Heck yes, it is. The only reason I never had service with my first-gen iPhone was the forced data plan. I refuse to pay for something I don't need, don't want, and wouldn't use.

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post #78 of 145
When did Apple ever declare the iPhone to be a full capacity, pocket-sized media server? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Apple ever intended the iPhone to fulfill that role.

Another way to look at it: How many recharges of an iPhone does it take to go through 32 GB of media/data? Ten, perhaps? If you have to stop and recharge then can't one re-sync at the same time to get that obscure file you think you're going to need?
post #79 of 145
I hate having to carefully curate my 170 GB music collection for my iPhone, it's a real pain in the ass. iTunes Match won't save me for the time being, because
1) it won't be available in Europe, at least not for quite a while
2) like most people I have a strictly capped data allowance on my iPhone. My provider throttles my 3G-speeds after 500 MB. Yes, that's MEGABYTES. Such practices are par for the course in Europe.

So, I would have jumped at a 64 GB iPhone. Oh well.
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Heck yes, it is. The only reason I never had service with my first-gen iPhone was the forced data plan. I refuse to pay for something I don't need, don't want, and wouldn't use.

Why own an iPhone then?
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