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I'm curious why people think the iPhone needs 1GB RAM simply because other devices need 1GB RAM or it's been the same for a whole year. The amount of RAM you need is not dependent on the competition or the Earth's revolution around the Sun, but upon requirements specific to an OS and its apps.

I've had absolutely no issues with my iPhone 4's 512MB RAM in iOS 4.0 through 5.0. I have more RAM available to the system than with any other iPhone that came before it so unless Apple has some RAM heavy additions coming in iOS 6.0 next year I have trouble believing that they will double the RAM based on the reasons in this thread.

but but you need it for True Multitasking! (been enjoying that topic on the other thread this morning).
post #82 of 181
If the replacement for the iphone4 is to be the 4S... Then maybe we are looking at LTE. That would be one way of hitting the ball out of the park without changing the appearance of the phone. Ad please don't get me wrong... I LOVE my 4. It is a beautiful combination of design and function. I just cannot believe that Apple would wait 16 months to deliver a speed bump.... LTE might be the answer.
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don't you know that is one thing that iOS 5 specifically takes care of?

You mean iOS 5 will specifically keep Safari from force-reloading? By God, if that's true, I... *sheds a tear* - I've been waiting for this since 2009!
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Originally Posted by Parkettpolitur View Post

You've got to be kidding. What about Safari STILL flushing pages from memory and having to reload them once you go back to that particular tab? Happens all the time on my iPhone 4, which tells me that 512 MB ain't enough.

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don't you know that is one thing that iOS 5 specifically takes care of?

I did have a problem with that in iOS 3.x and 4.x on the original iPad with 256MB RAM. Some of the long time readers might remember that I returned my first iPad because of the Safari reloading issues.

I have never had a problem with that on any iPhone in any OS version.
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Originally Posted by Ivabign View Post

If the replacement for the iphone4 is to be the 4S... Then maybe we are looking at LTE. That would be one way of hitting the ball out of the park without changing the appearance of the phone. Ad please don't get me wrong... I LOVE my 4. It is a beautiful combination of design and function. I just cannot believe that Apple would wait 16 months to deliver a speed bump.... LTE might be the answer.

it's been reliably reported that AT&T is upgrading its hardware at some Apple stores. they certainly would be installing the latest stuff. that makes AT&T LTE support at least a very good bet. i don't know the technicalities involved, but Apple would be smart to have iPhone 5 "4G Ready" for all the new high speed data services being deployed now or next year by all the telcos. we'll see.
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You mean iOS 5 will specifically keep Safari from force-reloading? By God, if that's true, I... *sheds a tear* - I've been waiting for this since 2009!

yeah it really bugs me too. the improved memory management will retain the web page for up to (?) old pages without forcing a reload.
post #87 of 181
Like many, if this is a mild refresh, I will be very disappointed and likely jump to Droid. I have been nursing a 3GS along now on AT&T and have had it with failed batteries, buttons, dropped calls and slow 3G. I will be going to Verizon. I have waited for the 5 and now have seen what the droids have, especially the new ones with 1.5GHz processors, 4.3" or better AMOLED screens, LTE and the new Ice Cream Sandwich Android OS 4.0.

I can not see myself married for two years to a phone that is not LTE or has a smaller screen.

Apple may very well sell all 30M as China is now in the mix but this doesn't mean anything to me.

Finally, within the next few weeks it will becom clear and having waited for so long, it will either be excitement or anger- no in between.

My hope is that Apple is coming out with a state-of-the-art thin iPhone 5 with big screen and LTE and an improved "4S" which would explain the current confusion.

My fear is that the iPhone 5 was ready a while ago and "waiting" on iOS 5. This would be the "refreshed 4" scenario with the 5 coming next round.
post #88 of 181
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Originally Posted by Lafe View Post

You don't have a power button on yours? Or volume buttons?

HA! Love it!

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Same heavy bulky design as iPhone 4 = No Sale.

I sure hope that means you are NOT in the larger screen camp, cause if so? You have different meanings of heavy and bulky than I do.
post #89 of 181
Basically iPhone 4S like I have been saying for months. I will wait for 6.
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Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post

Even with an improved antenna design, Apple's next-generation iPhone is expected to look largely the same as the current iPhone 4, and it will also feature the same amount of RAM: 512MB.

Analyst Ming-Chi Kuo told AppleInsider on Monday that Apple's anticipated fifth-generation iPhone will sport the same 512MB of DRAM as the iPhone 4. In addition, the hardware will feature a glass front and back, just like the current iPhone.






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The so-called "iPhone 5" is also expected to have an improved antenna design, potentially addressing concerns that arose last year when it was discovered that covering the bottom left corner of the iPhone 4 could reduce reception. Though the antenna will be improved, Kuo indicated there will be little change to its shape, and users will not see a discernable difference in its appearance.


Excuse me!?
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Originally Posted by wizard69 View Post

only the immature and self asorbed give a hoot about the iphones looks. Sales would be impacted one bit because what is insides is what sells iphone. Given that the analyst here could very well be talking about a lower cost iphone 4. No body knows what apple has up it's sleeves.

bs....
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Excuse me!?

Could you be more specific?
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post #93 of 181
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Originally Posted by Aizmov View Post

Only 512MB, that is disappointing.

i like all apple products but what's the point in buying another iPhone 4; that is exactly what it will be, if this rumor is true.
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Originally Posted by therealestmc View Post

i like all apple products but what's the point in buying another iPhone 4; that is exactly what it will be, if this rumor is true.

So they can change every major internal component for the better but if they maintain 512MB it'll be exactly like the iPhone 4? Good one¡
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So they can change every major internal component for the better but if they maintain 512MB it'll be exactly like the iPhone 4? Good one¡

you know based on this article and many others that it is looking more and more likely that the next iPhone will be a very modest update. and that is not something to be excited about...
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Originally Posted by hambone View Post

Apple iPhone (5th Generation) will be an improved model. It will have A5, 1GB RAM, 8MP rear camera and larger front screen (3.7 or 4.0 inch Retina plus display).

Apple expects the sales to rise dramatically. It will have similar specs when compared to Samsung Galaxy S2.

Announcement will be around September 21st. Don't believe these rumors spread by predators.

Is that you former aspd mod hambone?
post #97 of 181
I'd be satisfied if it had an A5 chip an 4in screen. If it stick with the same 3.5in screen, that will guarantee that I will pick up whatever the next official google phone is instead (ie. nexus prime). I use the phone for so many things, that bit of extra screen size is huge for me.
post #98 of 181
So we basically know everything about the next generation of Apple's most valuable device?

So much for Apple's reputation of keeping its upcoming releases secret, and so much for all this http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...y_efforts.html

I'm not implying that we know everything, I'm just pointing out to how ridiculous these claims are.
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Thank you Apple for finally fixing that antenna issue.
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Thank you Apple for finally fixing that antenna issue.

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post #101 of 181
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Originally Posted by alex.sebenski View Post

Double tapping the home button and choosing the app to switch to both wear out my home button and takes too much time. I dont mind if the home button is still a physical button, but I want a way to quick switch apps like the iPad and the 4/5 finger gestures. I believe this will be done with a touch sensitive area near the home button in this generation of devices.

sigh.

have you ever actually worn out your home button? know anybody whose home button got worn out by excessive clicking?
post #102 of 181
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Originally Posted by Alfiejr View Post

the spec bumps will be quite impressive, but not "freak out" stuff. faster processor, improved battery, improved retina display, first CDMA/GSM world phone, LTE at least, great camera. and iOS 5, with all its convenience improvements, will be a tremendously popular update.

but the big news this time is the Apple Ecosystem. iCloud, iTunes Match, AirPlay/Mirroring, etc.. these will greatly expand what you can do with all your Apple products and how they seamlessly work with each other. including the updated iPod line that will be unveiled at the same time, and of course the iPad. you can bet Apple will promote all this to the max with spiffy new TV ads.

so will people stand in line for the iPhone 5 like before (your "freak out," i assume)? not as much as last time, i think. a bit calmer this time ...

if this is what the new "4S" offers, that's a great "spec bump." the ecosystem is growing in relative market importance, while the hardware - as long as it is up to date for upgraded telco services - is becoming more standardized. but even then, there is more to camera quality than hardware megapixels - software really makes a big difference too, and Apple's camera processing software is among the very best.

and maybe some gadget junkies buy a new phone every year to have the latest and greatest specs, paying the additional early termination fee. but like most people, i get one every two years when my telco contract rolls over. so i'll be going from a 3GS to a 4S, certainly a big jump. everyone on a two year cycle gets a big jump by skipping one in-between model.

of course Android is somewhat different. there wasn't even an Android phone worth keeping for two years until early this year.
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Like many, if this is a mild refresh, I will be very disappointed and likely jump to Droid. I have been nursing a 3GS along now on AT&T and have had it with failed batteries, buttons, dropped calls and slow 3G. I will be going to Verizon. I have waited for the 5 and now have seen what the droids have, especially the new ones with 1.5GHz processors, 4.3" or better AMOLED screens, LTE and the new Ice Cream Sandwich Android OS 4.0.

I can not see myself married for two years to a phone that is not LTE or has a smaller screen.

Apple may very well sell all 30M as China is now in the mix but this doesn't mean anything to me.

Finally, within the next few weeks it will becom clear and having waited for so long, it will either be excitement or anger- no in between.

My hope is that Apple is coming out with a state-of-the-art thin iPhone 5 with big screen and LTE and an improved "4S" which would explain the current confusion.

My fear is that the iPhone 5 was ready a while ago and "waiting" on iOS 5. This would be the "refreshed 4" scenario with the 5 coming next round.

My goodness. You are all mixed up.

I'm really gonna try and not feed the trolls today.
post #104 of 181
Very disappointing if this is all it is. Steve exists and the place goes bland . . . .
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post #105 of 181
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Originally Posted by XeneX View Post

I will ...likely jump to Droid.

Just do and save us the trouble of wasting time reading your posts.

If all you care about are specs, you don't have any reason to have an iPhone, anyway.

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post #106 of 181
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Originally Posted by mercury99 View Post

Geez, it took them 16 months to fix the antena problem and come up with iPhone 4.1!

In the mean time I'll be picking up this Friday the Sprint Galaxy S 2:

4.52" Super AMOLED Plus display
Ultra-thin (9.59mm) design
Samsung Exynos 1.2GHz dual-core processor
1 GB RAM
16-32 GB flash memory
microSD, up to 32GB
1800 mAh battery
Wimax 4G radio
Media Hub
8MP rear camera and 2MP front camera, Geo-tagging, touch focus, face and smile detection, image stabilization
Social Hub
1080p HD video recording
Samsung Kies Air
Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n, DLNA, Wi-Fi Direct, Wi-Fi hotspot
Wifi calling
NOVA 2 HD pre-loaded
Swype pre-loaded
AES-256 internal/external hardware encryption
Bluetooth 3.0
Stereo FM radio with RDS
Sprint ID
Polaris Office
NFC
Hotspot controls up to eight devices
Optional USB Host kit for connection keyboards, cameras, printers and thumb drives
Optional HDMI adapter
Android 2.3 upgradable to 4.0

Then you will be disappointed and learn a valuable lesson about spec sheets.
post #107 of 181
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Originally Posted by Gustav View Post

Really? Why is a touch home button so important?

Cause it doesn't have one already, sillypants.

If the form factor doesn't change, they probably won't get a lot of iPhone 4 users upgrading right away, but whatever they release will be reason enough for anyone with an expiring or expired 2 year contract (i.e., 3GS and earlier users) to take the plunge.

I personally really like the iPhone form factor and will be quite happy if they keep it, but ultimately it's what's inside the phone that counts. I need a better camera and LED light, and would enjoy the faster processor for IOS 5 As long as the home button works reliably, I really don't care which form it takes.
post #108 of 181
I recall reading just a couple of weeks ago that the "N94" was indeed the 4S and not the iPhone 5, anyone else remember this?

http://www.bgr.com/2011/08/29/iphone...-be-iphone-4s/

http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...-8&q=n94+is+4s
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Then you will be disappointed and learn a valuable lesson about spec sheets.

No, I will not be disappointed. I just went to an ATT store and played with Samsung Infuse. The 4.5" super AMOLED+ screen is gorgeous, like nothing out there: I could not take my hands off it. The Galaxy 2S on top of that will also be faster, with higher capacity battery, and more goodies.

Next, in October-November Samsung is set to release the Nexus Prime: 4.65" Super AMOLED HD 1280 x 768 pixel resolution, a 1.5GHz dual-core processor, Android 4.0, SCHNEIDER-Kreuznach low light camera lenses, and a 8.8mm design.

Next, Q1 2012: Samsung Galaxy Note: a 5.3" Super AMOLED HD hybrid device: phone/microtablet:
http://www.samsung.com/global/micros...html?type=find

All these of course are 4G phones.



And what do we get from Apple? a 16 month old tech with hopefully fixed antena?

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post #110 of 181
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Originally Posted by stelligent View Post

One of the thinnest ...

But new iPhones have invariably been the thinnest upon their release. Are they going to break that trend?

Does it really matter? Late 1990s or so silly mobile phone manufacturers had this thing of who could make the smallest phone. Nokia made some really tiny ones with antenna problems.

Being the most compact doesn't truly matter past a certain point. I don't know how much thinner phones will go but I can't see the current thickness as a reason not to buy. It doesn't feel bulky, heavy, or bulge pockets. Am I missing something here?
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Originally Posted by rdjlexky View Post

I wish Apple would do something about the home button. I've never had a cell phone where the buttons worked for the duration of my contract, and sadly my 3GS is no different.

The home button (the only button on the stinking phone) only works intermittently and it's quite frustrating because I love my iPhone otherwise. I will probably fork over $200 for another one because no other phones are any better, but I would really love it if Apple found another way to get to the home screen without using this damned button.

It probably just needs a vacuum cleaner up its but.
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post #112 of 181
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

Just do and save us the trouble of wasting time reading your posts.

If all you care about are specs, you don't have any reason to have an iPhone, anyway.

I suppose all you care about is what, iOS? Sorry but iOS vs LTE, AMOLED screen, 4.5" screen with the next Android is not a "No-Brainer" add to that the iOS experience eroded by AT&T and my iPhone is awesome still but increasingly vulnerable. Maybe you should "look around" and not just go with the herd.

iOS is great, but it's not everything and in this case, it might not be enough.

And in my defense, An iPhone 5 WITH LTE and a larger screen IS A NO BRAINER for me. So don't tell me I'm wasting your time. Try thinking, it might hurt, but it's good for you.
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My goodness. You are all mixed up.

I'm really gonna try and not feed the trolls today.

Too bad. I'm getting clearer by the day. Look. We don't know what the 5 or 4S is going to be like until its out.

The info trickling out now is not good. NO evidence of advanced or "even modestly" different iPhone parts in the supply chain. This is not boding well for my hopes. I don't want to go, but a two year contract is a long time in tech. No LTE, same design, same screen.
post #114 of 181
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Originally Posted by xgman View Post

Very disappointing if this is all it is. Steve exists and the place goes bland . . . .

Yeah. Of course, the new iPhone 5 was designed last week. It's not like this was something that has been in development for the past 6+ months with the hardware specs probably being finalized 3 or 4 months ago... Oh wait, that's exactly what this it. You may have a worthwhile argument here if the iPhone 6 is a flop, but this one would realistically be Steve's last baby.

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So they can change every major internal component for the better but if they maintain 512MB it'll be exactly like the iPhone 4? Good one¡

I think the point here is that if the low end rumors are true this is a very un-sexy update. I mean the faster processor and better camera are not exactly the blow your skirt up kind of things. Now, I definitely think that the processor upgrade is a great move, and this is also true for the camera upgrade... I think the point is that people are hoping/expecting more from Apple than an incremental upgrade.

Personally, I would love to see a LTE phone with a 4" Retina display and 1GB of RAM to go along with the processor and camera upgrades. I think these would make for a blow you away kind of upgrade. I think the least likely of these is the LTE chip since I really don't think Apple is ready to make the battery life sacrifice. But boy would that kind of speed be SWEET...
post #115 of 181
If this is true, I ain't buying. I doubt this guy is legit. Probably a propagandist for Apple.

To disrupt their normal release cycle and keep us waiting for over a year, I doubt they're going to offer a minor upgrade to such an "old" phone. The only reason I can see for staying with 512MB RAM is that iOS 5 is a lot more efficient than iOS 4.
post #116 of 181
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Originally Posted by alex.sebenski View Post

Agreed. The thinner build with a bigger screen design and a touch sensitive home button for app switching would be enough to sell me.

Just an A5 chip and world phone capabilities would bore me. Apple knows how to add new features when they're necessary to make sure demand is greater than supply. It'll be different enough that it'll get lots of hype.

Otherwise same with me, Im keeping my iPhone 4 with iOS 5.

As well you should; it's too soon to be replacing an iPhone 4. I'm close to contract time for my 3GS, and glad to see they may be fixing (ahem... *improving*) the antenna. If that's the case, and battery life stays where it is or improves, I'll be glad to upgrade to a 5, or 4.1 or 4S, whatever they call it. Facetime and improved camera will be icing on the cake. iPhone4 people can look forward to iPhone 6
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

So they can change every major internal component for the better but if they maintain 512MB it'll be exactly like the iPhone 4? Good one¡

Yeah, well the CPU is not "every major internal component". I doubt they could even fit the iPad 2's super-fast GPU in there.
post #118 of 181
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Originally Posted by alex.sebenski View Post

Agreed. The thinner build with a bigger screen design and a touch sensitive home button for app switching would be enough to sell me....

I think there are far more people who like the iPhone 4 design than there are that prefer the proposed newer, iPad like design. The thing you describe that would make you buy it, is the exact thing that would make me *not* buy it.

I don't want a bigger phone or a bigger screen, I certainly don't want it to be flat with sharp edges like the iPad. I could see a smaller iPad, or a larger iPod touch, but if the phone is getting any bigger than it's (already fairly portly) size, I don't want it and I think the majority of buyers would agree.
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Originally Posted by REC View Post

sigh.

have you ever actually worn out your home button? know anybody whose home button got worn out by excessive clicking?

yep. mine actually stopped working altogether. i had to jailbreak it in order to simulate the home button using activator.
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My goodness. You are all mixed up.

I'm really gonna try and not feed the trolls today.

I dont think 'troll' means what you think it means.

I would agree to some extent that a larger screen is eventually going to be a must in the iPhone. I'm looking at all my friends who have recently picked up android phones (gs II and htc sensation among others) and my poor little 3GS, while capable, looks quite old school now. I've never been good at the virtual keyboard, but pecking around on the 3GS is far more painful for me that it is on phone with larger screens. Even another 1/2 inch would help.
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