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Video game retailer GameStop has decided to sell a store-branded version of an existing Android tablet as its vehicle for expanding into App Store-like game downloads now dominated by Apple's iPad.

According to a report by Games Industry, GameStop will begin selling an existing Android tablet next year preloaded with games and capable of downloading new titles from the company.

Last month GameStop reported that its sales were down 3.1 percent in its second quarter, while profits were down 23 percent. Digital downloads were up 69 percent however, now representing 41.7 percent of the company's revenues, a shift that chief executive Paul Raines described as a "challenging period for the industry."

The gaming retailer announced plans back in April to develop or rebrand a gaming tablet after acquiring Stardock's Impulse digital distribution service.

Gamestop's 6,500 retail outlets bring in nearly half (46.2 percent) of their revenues from the resale of used video games and hardware, but its president Tony Bartel noted this spring that "we really don't anticipate we're going to have a model [for digital] where people can trade a game back in."

Bartel said at the time his company was looking into gaming tablets, noting that "if we can't find one that's great for gaming, then we will create our own." The company also began experimenting with a limited tablet and smartphone trade in program, which it recently expanded to include Apple's iPods, iPhone, and iPad.

Stagnant market for games outside of App Store

However, Apple owns the entire software resale market for native iOS apps, leaving no option for retailers like GameStop (or Amazon) to sell or resell iOS titles outside of web apps. Apple's App Store, like the rest of iTunes, is aimed to run near break even. However, this spring iSuppli reported that in 2010, Apple's App Store had revenues of $1.78 billion and had grown by 132 percent over 2009.

Outside of Apple's iOS ecosystem, NPD Group has just reported (blogged by VG24/7) that sales of video game hardware, software and accessories has slid 23 percent year over year for August, with hardware sales down 12 percent, accessories down 1 percent, but game software down 34 percent. NPD noted that "videogame sales in the new physical retail channel suffered its lowest month since October 2006."

The drop in software sales in August was exaggerated by the late release of Madden Football, but NPD observed that even with an anticipated strong release schedule during the important upcoming holiday season, sales for all of 2011 are only expected to be flat or up slightly over last year.

Stagnant market for Android hardware outside of smartphones

A secondary problem facing GameStop is that Android-powered devices haven't fared well outside of smartphones. Samsung's initiative to copy Apple's iPod touch with its Galaxy Player (below, as depicted on Samsung's site) last December has appeared to fizzle after an initial press release in March claiming sales of 20,000 units in ten days.



Samsung's iPad-like Galaxy Tab was similarly ridiculed by Lenovo for selling only 20,000 units, and similar or more modern Android tablets like Motorola's Xoom have also found only limited interest in the market.

Many Android enthusiasts are expecting the best sales reports to come from Amazon's upcoming Android-based Kindle, but that device will be tied to Amazon's own software store much like Apple's iPad is limited to the App Store, or as Barnes & Noble's Nook is connected to that company's own software market. That means sales of the low cost Nook or Kindle will do little to help develop third party Android markets like GameStop's.

The market for Android tablets is shaping up as a series of devices tied to proprietary stores, likely in response to the failure of Google to provide a safe, well regulated market for Android software, and the destructive effect that piracy and malware republishing has had on alternative open Android software stores.
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I wonder how Apple will respond to that? Allowing GameStop to sell iPads next to their own branded competitor (opening up favorable comparisons for said competitor) doesn't like an Apple move.
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Kind of amusing since there was a corporate email to the managers that we're going to start selling iDevices. Some stores are already authorized to take iDevices in as trade (my store being one), and we should start getting new merchandise in late October/early November to sell.
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Soon every Safeway, every 7-eleven, every Circle K, every Walmart, and every Tom, Dick and Harry will sell their own Android tablet. What a total waste of time and money. This is the problem with our world, nobody acts rationally. Just throwing your logo on a tablet won't make it sell. Apple is selling millions of iPads not simply because it's a tablet, but due to the ecosystem around it and the fact that Apple makes it sexy.

Yah, a GameStop branded tablet is really going to go somewhere. NOT!
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Soon every Safeway, every 7-eleven, every Circle K, every Walmart, and every Tom, Dick and Harry will sell their own Android tablet. What a total waste of time and money. This is the problem with our world, nobody acts rationally. Just throwing your logo on a tablet won't make it sell. Apple is selling millions of iPads not simply because it's a tablet, but due to the ecosystem around it and the fact that Apple makes it sexy.

Yah, a GameStop branded tablet is really going to go somewhere. NOT!

This ^^^
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Desperate times require Desperate measures. However, the answer seems to come from Disparate minds.
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See http://9to5google.com/2011/09/12/com...mobile-gamers/

This could be a smart move by GameStop.
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See http://9to5google.com/2011/09/12/com...mobile-gamers/

This could be a smart move by GameStop.

Android is number one for gamers? That's quite a surprise.
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Soon every Safeway, every 7-eleven, every Circle K, every Walmart, and every Tom, Dick and Harry will sell their own Android tablet. What a total waste of time and money. This is the problem with our world, nobody acts rationally. Just throwing your logo on a tablet won't make it sell. Apple is selling millions of iPads not simply because it's a tablet, but due to the ecosystem around it and the fact that Apple makes it sexy.

Yah, a GameStop branded tablet is really going to go somewhere. NOT!

You have no idea how many people buy apple products with little reason other then it is from apple. So many people have told me their mac is better then my gaming rig just because it is a Mac.
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See http://9to5google.com/2011/09/12/com...mobile-gamers/

This could be a smart move by GameStop.

Fanboy much?
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Android is number one for gamers? That's quite a surprise.

Really? I wasn't.

R-type port available
MAME emulator(with 2000 games and counting)
NES emulators
SNES emulators
Master system emulators
Genesis emulators
N64 emulators
PS1 emulators

and to top it all off, not being limited by the Market itself so they can go explore and Still get modern games on from the tegra/non tegra devs?

No surprise at all.
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I refuse to buy anything from Game Stop. With Best Buy, Target, and Wal-Mart there is NO reason to pre-order or buy new games there.

Game Stop is evil and if you want to sell your game back a week later just use Game Fly.
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Wow- this is a really good move by Gamestop! This will give consumers the selection that they nee.... I can't even get through the sentence without laughing...
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Hahaha, only a complete retard or somebody who was dropped on their head when they were an infant would buy one of these gamestop android tablets.
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Really? I wasn't.

R-type port available
MAME emulator(with 2000 games and counting)
NES emulators
SNES emulators
Master system emulators
Genesis emulators
N64 emulators
PS1 emulators

and to top it all off, not being limited by the Market itself so they can go explore and Still get modern games on from the tegra/non tegra devs?

No surprise at all.

There's a reason some of those games/emulators aren't available on an iOS device... Most of them suck and weren't worth buying to begin with when the came out originally.

You can have all the hemorrhoid you can handle.

Look at who is selling games... It isn't hemorrhoid, it's Apple.
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NES emulators
SNES emulators
Master system emulators
Genesis emulators
N64 emulators
PS1 emulators

No surprise at all.

What's that? An OS that allows the use of software designed to play pirated games is leading in gaming?

Honestly, people who play ROMs of games rarely own them.

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See http://9to5google.com/2011/09/12/com...mobile-gamers/

This could be a smart move by GameStop.

I wonder how much of that other 32% are using iOS on iPads and iPod touch's?

Android vs iPhone != Android vs iOS.
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Gamestopb is toast. It is just a matter of time before their business model gets blown out the water:
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I'm still trying to understand why everyone is repeating the expectation that an Amazon-branded Android tablet will seduce the masses. It doesn't exist yet. It's like everyone was saying that Android tablets would own the iPad and before that, it was people predicting the iPad would fail because there was no tablet market. Tech sites are just echo chambers.

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Originally Posted by Jexus View Post

Really? I wasn't.

R-type port available
MAME emulator(with 2000 games and counting)
NES emulators
SNES emulators
Master system emulators
Genesis emulators
N64 emulators
PS1 emulators

and to top it all off, not being limited by the Market itself so they can go explore and Still get modern games on from the tegra/non tegra devs?

No surprise at all.

So let me guess, GameStop will cash in by selling ROM's for these emulators?

Wow, pretty soon they'll be rolling in the big bucks.
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I refuse to buy anything from Game Stop. With Best Buy, Target, and Wal-Mart there is NO reason to pre-order or buy new games there.

Game Stop is evil and if you want to sell your game back a week later just use Game Fly.

Agreed. If I did, I'd have to report them to the Better Business Bureau for being slime balls.

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Gamestopb is toast. It is just a matter of time before their business model gets blown out the water:

Blockbuster Video agrees.

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post #23 of 39
I didn't see an estimated price for this thing. If it's not significantly less (1/3) than a new console, then I think it's DOA.
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Last hurrah from a dinosaur? lol
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So, how many good games are there for Android that are not clones from iOS. More importantly, how many tablet games are there for android? Sounds like a bad idea, and I would just buy Onlive instead. At least those guys can work cross platform, including mobile devices, and have some sort of future. Reselling physical disks will be the realm of Amazon pretty soon, as having a physical store will make it too expensive to stock physical items.
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So let me guess, GameStop will cash in by selling ROM's for these emulators?

Wow, pretty soon they'll be rolling in the big bucks.

Yep, that's a highly lucrative and sustainable business model right there. Selling piece of shit Android tablets to cheapskates so that they can play obsolete and pirated ROMs?

The only money in older games is if companies release them for iOS. Can you imagine how many millions of copies somebody like Nintendo would sell if they released Mario etc?
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So, how many good games are there for Android that are not clones from iOS. More importantly, how many tablet games are there for android? Sounds like a bad idea, and I would just buy Onlive instead. At least those guys can work cross platform, including mobile devices, and have some sort of future. Reselling physical disks will be the realm of Amazon pretty soon, as having a physical store will make it too expensive to stock physical items.

they're called ports not clones...and there are quite a few games that are good for Android and don't exist on iOS...it happens, iOS isn't the be all end all in gaming...quality exists elsewhere.

How many tablet games for Android? pretty much all of them since they scale up well.

But yes...this does sound like a bad idea...the phone blitzkrieg model of sales will not work for tablets....I don't understand what these OEMs don't get. Subsidizing these things for 300 is retarded.

Unless Android tablets get a serious marketing overhaul they NEED to die. If anything comes from the MMI deal hopefully a good tablet can arise. Yes using the Apple vertical formula.
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it happens, iOS isn't the be all end all in gaming...quality exists elsewhere.

I'm an Apple fan but that is definitely truth. Heck, Apple didn't even intentionally get into gaming so I doubt it's some gaming holy grail.

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Unless Android tablets get a serious marketing overhaul they NEED to die. If anything comes from the MMI deal hopefully a good tablet can arise. Yes using the Apple vertical formula.

The Xoom was an exclusive, Google-backed tablet and it didn't do very well. Google states that it plans to run Motorola as separate, hands-off entity. That means either more of the same or Google is getting proactive which should make its partners very nervous.
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I'm an Apple fan but that is definitely truth. Heck, Apple didn't even intentionally get into gaming so I doubt it's some gaming holy grail.

Not on iOS. Apple does not make Mac games, but it is the leader in gaming on mobile devices. That is why nintendo is scared shitless of the Touch.

Here is Gameloft's home page. It clearly separates iPhone and iPad games out from the rest of smartphone games. That is for a reason, because gaming on iDevices is way better than the competition, especially for tablets.
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I'm still trying to understand why everyone is repeating the expectation that an Amazon-branded Android tablet will seduce the masses. It doesn't exist yet. It's like everyone was saying that Android tablets would own the iPad and before that, it was people predicting the iPad would fail because there was no tablet market. Tech sites are just echo chambers.

To be fair. Amazon does have an ecosystem...
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Yep, that's a highly lucrative and sustainable business model right there. Selling piece of shit Android tablets to cheapskates so that they can play obsolete and pirated ROMs?

The only money in older games is if companies release them for iOS. Can you imagine how many millions of copies somebody like Nintendo would sell if they released Mario etc?

The Sonic ports by SEGA (1 & 2) were quite good. Titles from big game companies seem a bit expensive at first (compared to $0.99 apps, that is), but when you factor in the playing time you get for your buck, it's pretty cool.
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I'm an Apple fan but...

Uh-huh. I know what comes next...

"Apple should pull the plug on the iPhone."

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The Xoom was an exclusive, Google-backed tablet and it didn't do very well. Google states that it plans to run Motorola as separate, hands-off entity. That means either more of the same or Google is getting proactive which should make its partners very nervous.

I mean't backed by Google sold by Google...at a competitive price. None of this carrier subsidized BS.
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Uh-huh. I know what comes next...

but he is undoubtedly an Apple fan....

then again I'm guessing you were being facetious.
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The Slashdot story:
http://games.slashdot.org/story/11/0...Android-Tablet

Personally, I think this could work. GameStop is going to have a controller for their tablet. If they have a decent online store or XBox Live-type experience, and sell games designed to work with their controller, I think they could distinguish their brand and provide a reason for people to identify GameStop with gaming on Android.

Maybe they could make their XBox Live-clone free for a year if you buy your tablet from them, otherwise it's some amount per month. Provide perks to people who use genuine GameStop branded hardware.

The story linked by Slashdot mentions GameStop will stream games to the tablet. I'm guessing that means playing PC, XBox or PS3 games using the tablet as a display and controller. That sounds like a disaster to me. Network latency & lag are the bane of online gaming. I don't understand how you overcome physics to deliver a compelling experience from a server hundreds or thousands of miles away.

- Jasen.
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GameStop does have a chance to hit big on this. Just follow HP and netflix: provide a tablet for $99 and all the games you want to play for a subscription of $9.99 a month. With the TouchPad demand and growth of Netflix, this is the formula to win.
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"their called ports not clones"

The word is "they're" not "their"
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"their called ports not clones"

The word is "they're" not "their"

It'd help if you'd quote the post of which you're making fun.

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"their called ports not clones"

The word is "they're" not "their"

thanks for the correction...it's rare that I make such mistakes.
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