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VMware on Wednesday announced the new VMware Fusion 4 virtualization software for running Windows on a Mac, packing more than 90 new features including a design built specifically for Mac OS X 10.7 Lion.

VMware Fusion 4 is available now for a promotional price of $49.99, and is optimized for today's multi-core Macs, as well as the newly released Lion operating system, VMware said.

"Enhancements to VMware Fusion 4 make it a breeze to run Windows and Mac applications side by side on a Mac," said Pat Lee, director, client product management, VMware. "Offering full integration into Apple OS X Lion, VMware Fusion 4 builds on our proven, award winning platform to provide an easy, fast and reliable way to run Windows applications on a Mac."

Key features in VMware Fusion 4, as highlighted by VMware on Wednesday, include:
Built for OS X Lion - The company said VMware Fusion 4 is designed to provide the best Windows experience on OS X Lion. Users can add Windows programs to Launchpad, experience them in Mission Control, view them in full screen or switch between them using Mac gestures.
Better Performance and Faster Graphics - VMware Fusion 4 is said to have been engineered to run Windows and Mac applications side-by-side with incredible speed and reliability. As a 64-bit Cocoa application, it is optimized for today's multi-core Macs and reportedly delivers 3D graphics up to 2.5-times faster than previous versions of Fusion.

Even More "Mac-like" Experience - VMware Fusion 4 enhances the way Windows programs run on a Mac. From the brand new settings menu to the redesigned virtual machine library and snapshot menu, users are said to have even more Mac-like experiences when running Windows programs.
Lion Squared - VMware Fusion 4 now supports OS X Lion in a virtual machine, allowing users to run OS X Lion, OS X Lion Server, Mac OS X Snow Leopard Server and Mac OS X Leopard Server in virtual machines.

VMware also touted the migration assistant of VMware Fusion 4, which it said makes it easy for users to transfer their entire PC to a Mac. This allows users to access Windows programs and files from their PC directly on their Mac.



Availability and Pricing

VMware Fusion 4 is available until the end of the year for a promotional price of only $49.99. The suggested retail price for VMware Fusion 4 is $79.99. Customers who have purchased VMware Fusion 3 on or after July 20, 2011 are eligible for an electronic upgrade to VMware Fusion 4 at no additional cost. Volume pricing for corporate users is available from select resellers and vmware.com/vmwarestore/.
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What is up with the 1:1 aspect ratio in the window?
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Sweet. Tried Fusion 3 on Lion and had nothing but trouble. Sticking with Snow Leopard on 2nd machine to run it. Also my Quark 7 will NOT run on Lion but does on SL. But may run Lion now as a VM and have everything.
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I don't think I am going to be updating to 4. 3.1.3 works great for me in Lion.
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Fusion 4 doesn't support real Lion full screen mode.
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Fusion 4 was going to be a definite purchase for me, but now I'm not sure. No expansion in Linux support, no upgrade pricing, and no academic discount. $50 for a minor upgrade so it plays nicer with Lion is a bit steep.
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Fusion 4 was going to be a definite purchase for me, but now I'm not sure. No expansion in Linux support, no upgrade pricing, and no academic discount. $50 for a minor upgrade so it plays nicer with Lion is a bit steep.

This.
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I hope VMWare doesn't go the way of Parallels and start to ridiculously bloat their software in a futile attempt to force Windows and Mac to "feel" like one, and I'm not talking about about Unity. The reason I like VMWare is because I can use a Windows OS and a Mac OS as separate stable OSes.
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Fusion 4 was going to be a definite purchase for me, but now I'm not sure. No expansion in Linux support, no upgrade pricing, and no academic discount. $50 for a minor upgrade so it plays nicer with Lion is a bit steep.

It's cheaper than Parallels, though.
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Fusion 4 was going to be a definite purchase for me, but now I'm not sure. No expansion in Linux support, no upgrade pricing, and no academic discount. $50 for a minor upgrade so it plays nicer with Lion is a bit steep.

Why do you think it doesn't allow a vm for Linux? I run Ubuntu, and all the possible Mac OSs as well as XP, Vista and 7. Why not visit the VMWare web site and see for yourself?
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It's cheaper than Parallels, though.

If you already have VMware Fusion, you can switch to Parallels 7 for less than to upgrade to VMware Fusion 4. Switching to Parallels 7 will cost 29.99 versus the upgrade to VMware Fusion 4 which is 49.99. I am not sure what I will be doing yet...

Here's the link: http://www.parallels.com/ca/products...p/vmwareoffer/
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What is up with the 1:1 aspect ratio in the window?

Total the choice of the write of the article. You can make the VM screen any size and obviously full, screen too. However in Lion VM there are some possible limitations. I am running the dev beta so I better upgrade to the full version to check that out. Free trial is here for anyone interested: http://www.vmware.com/products/fusion/overview.html
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If you already have VMware fusion 4, you can switch to Parallels 7 for less than to upgrade to VMware fusion 4. Switching to Parallels 7 will cost 29.99 versus the upgrade to Fusion 4 which is 49.99. I am not sure what I will be doing yet...

Here's the link: http://www.parallels.com/ca/products...p/vmwareoffer/

That is some pretty stupid marketing isn't it?
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Wonder if there's a way to fool it into running Tiger Server (and thus Classic)?
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VMWare Fusion v3.1.3 runs smoothly and without issue, on my and another known, Lion 10.7.1 installation.

It is a bit of a CPU hog so I would consider v4 after I read some reviews, to see if the "64bit support", "Better Performance and Faster Graphics", amount to something tangible.
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If you already have VMware Fusion, you can switch to Parallels 7 for less than to upgrade to VMware Fusion 4. Switching to Parallels 7 will cost 29.99 versus the upgrade to VMware Fusion 4 which is 49.99. I am not sure what I will be doing yet...

Here's the link: http://www.parallels.com/ca/products...p/vmwareoffer/

Something to consider, Parallels or VMWare is almost always included in those seasonal $49 Mac bundles by MacHeist, MacUpdate, and the like.
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Wonder if there's a way to fool it into running Tiger Server (and thus Classic)?

No I doubt it as it would require emulation of PPC.
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VMware Fusion 3 ran fine on Lion but upgraded to 4 today. Only use it for testing software and accessing a windows only remote support tool but it does the job. Have run server 2008 R2 vm and multiple xp/win 7 vm side by side without issue on my 16GB iMac when trying to replicate a networking fault a customer was having. Ran faster than my 17" win7 laptop
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Sweet. Tried Fusion 3 on Lion and had nothing but trouble. Sticking with Snow Leopard on 2nd machine to run it. Also my Quark 7 will NOT run on Lion but does on SL. But may run Lion now as a VM and have everything.

Been using Fusion 3 on Lion for weeks, no issues whatsoever.
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I hope VMWare doesn't go the way of Parallels and start to ridiculously bloat their software in a futile attempt to force Windows and Mac to "feel" like one, and I'm not talking about about Unity. The reason I like VMWare is because I can use a Windows OS and a Mac OS as separate stable OSes.

Just turn off those features then, or use VirtualBox...it's free.
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Wonder if there's a way to fool it into running Tiger Server (and thus Classic)?

Classic only runs in PPC flavor of Tiger. Try SheepShaver to run on an Intel box.
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VMWare really need to get their product purchasing for Mac act together ... I love the product but the online purchase is like something from 1990! They need to make it an automatic download once purchased or even use the app store. As it is once you have paid your are left to navigate their entire product line including enterprise products and make several selection and several pages later you finally get to a download page reminiscent of a PC spam download page. It is totally not what Mac users are used to.
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Why do you think it doesn't allow a vm for Linux? I run Ubuntu, and all the possible Mac OSs as well as XP, Vista and 7. Why not visit the VMWare web site and see for yourself?

I said no expansion in Linux support. Most notably, a lot of recent developments in Linux require some form of graphics hardware (Unity and GNOME 3), but Fusion refuses to enable hardware acceleration for anything non-Windows (Parallels does, and I'm considering switching because of it).
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I said no expansion in Linux support. Most notably, a lot of recent developments in Linux require some form of graphics hardware (Unity and GNOME 3), but Fusion refuses to enable hardware acceleration for anything non-Windows (Parallels does, and I'm considering switching because of it).

OK my bad
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Parallels handles far better game support. I am currently running Doom 3 and Quake 4 on a paralles 7 vm guest running windows 7 without any issues what so ever. I guess when it comes to day to day activities such as surfing the web and email both provide same level of efficiency. It all comes down to what you do with the VM. just my 2 cents.
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I purchased my Fusion 3 upgrade on 11/09. The AI article states only buyers of Fusion 3 after 7/11 are eligible for a free upgrade, but I am hoping all Fusion 3 owners are covered. Will find out next Monday, I guess.
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VMware Fusion 4 now supports OS X Lion in a virtual machine, allowing users to run OS X Lion, OS X Lion Server, Mac OS X Snow Leopard Server and Mac OS X Leopard Server in virtual machines.

I can't think of any reason why Apple couldn't allow Snow Leopard (client) to run virtually in Lion. Seems like it would be a no-lose proposition. Happy customers, more Lion upgrade sales, more hardware sales to people who can't /won't otherwise upgrade to Lion. If Leopard Server and Snow Loepard Server can both run, there shouldn't be a technical reason for the client not to be able to run.

Other than using their own customers as hostages to get 3rd party developers to upgrade their software to Lion, there's simply to reason not to allow it. (And that would be a pretty shitty thing to do if that were Apple's motiviation for not allowing it.)

This would then parallel the situation wtih the Classic transition. You can still run your old software, but it's kind of an annoyance to have to launch Classic (VMWare) just to do it. That should be enough motivation for consumers and developers to move to Lion comaptible software without making it all-or-nothing. I can move to Lion and then upgrade my software as updates and money become available to do so. (An upgrade to Lion would cost me about $500 and then there would still be the whole mess with Quicken and iSync.)
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The biggest thing from this announcement is that VMware can host MacOSX OSes. If they extend this feature to ESXi then Apple's exit from server hardware will be a non-issue. VMWare shops like ours can easily add MacOS servers to our mix of Windows and Linux servers... Also, VMWare player could serve up MacOS desktops over thin clients using PCoIP...

One can only hope.
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Got to love this ... talk about simplicity ...

'Fusion 4 makes it terribly easy to create Lion VMs by dragging the "Install OS X Lion" Mac App Store app right into a starter virtual machine; there is no step 2.'
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I can't think of any reason why Apple couldn't allow Snow Leopard (client) to run virtually in Lion. Seems like it would be a no-lose proposition. Happy customers, more Lion upgrade sales, more hardware sales to people who can't /won't otherwise upgrade to Lion. If Leopard Server and Snow Loepard Server can both run, there shouldn't be a technical reason for the client not to be able to run.

Other than using their own customers as hostages to get 3rd party developers to upgrade their software to Lion, there's simply to reason not to allow it. (And that would be a pretty shitty thing to do if that were Apple's motiviation for not allowing it.)

This would then parallel the situation wtih the Classic transition. You can still run your old software, but it's kind of an annoyance to have to launch Classic (VMWare) just to do it. That should be enough motivation for consumers and developers to move to Lion comaptible software without making it all-or-nothing. I can move to Lion and then upgrade my software as updates and money become available to do so. (An upgrade to Lion would cost me about $500 and then there would still be the whole mess with Quicken and iSync.)

I agree, till then (I doubt it will happen though) the easiest and cheapest solution is a second boot drive with Snow Leopard or partition your existing drive if you have room.
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So as an owner of VMWare Fusion, I can spend $50 to upgrade to 4...or I can spend $30 to upgrade to Parallels 7.

..see ya, VMWare.
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Parallels handles far better game support. I am currently running Doom 3 and Quake 4 on a paralles 7 vm guest running windows 7 without any issues what so ever. I guess when it comes to day to day activities such as surfing the web and email both provide same level of efficiency. It all comes down to what you do with the VM. just my 2 cents.

Have you found any reason to upgrade from 6 to 7? Other than the occasional weirdness of my guest OS windows popping up on the wrong space from time-to-time, I haven't had any issues with running Parallels 6 on Lion. I'm not seeing anything compelling enough to have me forking over yet another $50 for the upgrade - this is getting expensive, as I have been using Parallels since version 3 and have now paid $150 already over the past three years for the annual upgrades - that said, each version thus-far came with features compelling enough to justify the cost. I'm just not sure that's the case this time.

Thanks!
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I will have to check this out. I originally started VM'ing with Parallels when it first came out. I tried VMware later and loved it! I have not used Parallels since. This new release looks amazing, so many great new features (most of which look relevant). I like the path VMware has gone with it's product, I love supporting them!

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I would recommend. I found (on my late 2008 8GB MBP) a noticeable performance increase on Win7 machines which i believe to be worth the cost all by itself.



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Have you found any reason to upgrade from 6 to 7? Other than the occasional weirdness of my guest OS windows popping up on the wrong space from time-to-time, I haven't had any issues with running Parallels 6 on Lion. I'm not seeing anything compelling enough to have me forking over yet another $50 for the upgrade - this is getting expensive, as I have been using Parallels since version 3 and have now paid $150 already over the past three years for the annual upgrades - that said, each version thus-far came with features compelling enough to justify the cost. I'm just not sure that's the case this time.

Thanks!
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So as an owner of VMWare Fusion, I can spend $50 to upgrade to 4...or I can spend $30 to upgrade to Parallels 7.

..see ya, VMWare.

Lucky you, because I'm a loyal (so far) owner of Parallels and it's $50 for me to upgrade from 6 to 7. Lower price to lure you in, then prepare for higher upgrade costs ongoing. I was looking at VMWare and was hoping to find a similar upgrade in the opposite direction. I think that these frequent updates at $50 are overpriced.
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I will have to check this out. I originally started VM'ing with Parallels when it first came out. I tried VMware later and loved it! I have not used Parallels since. This new release looks amazing, so many great new features (most of which look relevant). I like the path VMware has gone with it's product, I love supporting them!

I found the opposite. Around the time of Parallels 4 I tried an early version of Fusion using a VM that was stored on removable media. My VM (under Fusion) locked up consistently. In order to use it I had to use Parallels transporter to convert the VM from VMWare to Parallels and then it worked fine.

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I would recommend. I found (on my late 2008 8GB MBP) a noticeable performance increase on Win7 machines which i believe to be worth the cost all by itself.

Good to know. I'm still using the same XP VM I've been on for years, but I'm testing out Windows 7 as an alternative now. The only reason I haven't migrated yet is that my company still relies pretty heavily on NetMeeting which has been deprecated on Win 7.
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Have you found any reason to upgrade from 6 to 7? Other than the occasional weirdness of my guest OS windows popping up on the wrong space from time-to-time, I haven't had any issues with running Parallels 6 on Lion. I'm not seeing anything compelling enough to have me forking over yet another $50 for the upgrade - this is getting expensive, as I have been using Parallels since version 3 and have now paid $150 already over the past three years for the annual upgrades - that said, each version thus-far came with features compelling enough to justify the cost. I'm just not sure that's the case this time.

Thanks!

For me the ability to go upto 1GB of graphics memory, this is what is enabling me to play these games without any issue at all. Also from a resource perspective I can see Parallels 7 run smoother and using less resources. even I have it running on my macbook air (mid 2011) no issues to report.
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Lucky you, because I'm a loyal (so far) owner of Parallels and it's $50 for me to upgrade from 6 to 7. Lower price to lure you in, then prepare for higher upgrade costs ongoing. I was looking at VMWare and was hoping to find a similar upgrade in the opposite direction. I think that these frequent updates at $50 are overpriced.

Funny you should say that. I was a loyal Parallels user. But then after I bought 5, six weeks later version 6 came out. I didn't want to pay $50 to upgrade, but then VMWare were offering $10 for any VMWare or Parallels users to upgrade to 3.1, so I took it.

I regretted it, because VMWare ran a lot slower, to the point where I might as well have just used VirtualBox. I went back to the 'old' version of Parallels. But as a result of buying VMWare, I upgraded to Parallels 7 for $39, or less than the cost than a single Parallels upgrade.
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To control external machines via USB, VMware Fusion is the only one that works.
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