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Users with multiple Apple IDs or a separate MobileMe or iCloud account may soon be able to merge their numerous accounts into just one.

Two users who reached out to Apple CEO Tim Cook via e-mail received a phone call from the company explaining they are aware of the issue, according to MacRumors. The problem is expected to grow after Apple launches iCloud, its free wireless syncing service, this fall.

While there is not currently a way for users to combine their accounts into one unifying Apple ID, a representative from Apple reportedly said that the company is working on a solution. The person recommended that, in the meantime, users stick to a single account and make all future purchases on it.

As developers test iOS 5 and iCloud ahead of its release, the problem of having multiple Apple IDs has become even more of an issue, as it is difficult to switch between logins for the Automatic Downloads feature. In addition, devices are locked to a single Apple ID for 90 days.

The apparent response after a user wrote to Cook is yet another example of how the new CEO of Apple is working to satisfy customers. Earlier this week, AppleInsider revealed an exchange another customer had with Apple regarding the transition from MobileMe to iCloud.



Specifically, the user bemoaned the loss of services that will occur when MobileMe becomes iCloud, including syncing of application preferences, keychains, and iDisk. After e-mailing Cook, the user received a phone call from Apple, in which a representative explained that features like iDisk and system preference syncing could return in the future if is demanded by users.

Cook's accessibility to Apple customers is an approach carried over from his predecessor, company co-founder Steve Jobs, who was known to personally respond to e-mails on occasion, like last November when he said "hardly anyone" was buying the company's Xserve rackmounted servers, which resulted in their discontinuation.
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Can't happen too soon!
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Best news this week!

I have a teenager who had an iTunes allowance funded by my credit card. He went away to school out of state and stopped using his account. It grew a significant credit balance, so, since I had funded it, I started using it for my own App and music purchases. Now my content is registered under two separate account IDs and it makes updates and media library consolidation more difficult than it needs to be.

This, (and a couple of small but critical iWeb sites I operate) have been nagging issues for me as I contemplate the coming iCloud rollout.

Please, please, Apple and Mr. Cook - pursue this path!

This initiative would solve a significant issue for me and, I'm sure, many others in similar circumstances.
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Won't this drop the number of individual accounts with credit card numbers that apple has on file? Isn't this something that SJ always made a point of during his keynotes?
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"The person recommended that, in the meantime, users stick to a single account and make all future purchases on it."

Thank god they have a rocket scientist on hand to give this advice...
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Won't this drop the number of individual accounts with credit card numbers that apple has on file? Isn't this something that SJ always made a point of during his keynotes?

But I have two darned accounts where I thought I only had one. They have the same:
Email address
User name
CC #
Address
And it won't see my mobileMe account ID, the ID is a registered developer, access to iCloud. RPITA.

It all happened when it went from .mac to .me, what a mess.
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Originally Posted by 801 View Post

Won't this drop the number of individual accounts with credit card numbers that apple has on file? Isn't this something that SJ always made a point of during his keynotes?

I doubt the number that will be affected significantly or at all.
post #8 of 60
Yes... Please. Life is much simpler with one Apple ID. I don't know why you can change your Apple ID to any email except @me.com emails. We should have been able to do that long time ago.

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Won't this drop the number of individual accounts with credit card numbers that apple has on file? Isn't this something that SJ always made a point of during his keynotes?

No necessarily. The problem here is that every MobileMe account is an Apple ID. The other thing is that you don't need a credit card to open an iTunes account. Those accounts with credit card numbers are mostly for people who actively buy from iTunes or the App Store.
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Originally Posted by NasserAE View Post

Yes... Please. Life is much simpler with one Apple ID. I don't know why you can change your Apple ID to any email except @me.com emails. We should have been able to do that long time ago.

It's annoyingly Microsoftian.
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post #10 of 60
merging different country accounts would be sweet.
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Originally Posted by myapplelove View Post

merging different country accounts would be sweet.

Unfortunately, since holding different country accounts at the same time is illegal (against Apple's software license that you agree to when setting up an account) I don't think they'll offer this feature.

Wouldn't it be sweet if they just turned everybody's account into a "world account" and did away with all of the individual country stores. If only the record companies and Hollywood studios would allow it.
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I'm not sure if this is exactly what I was hoping for. I still want to keep my wife's account and my account separate...I would just like us to both be able to see and use each other's purchases. However, I don't necessarily want use to have all of our iCloud stuff merged and automatically synced to each other's machines.
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A miracle has occurred.
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Originally Posted by xanthohappy View Post

Wouldn't it be sweet if they just turned everybody's account into a "world account" and did away with all of the individual country stores. If only the record companies and Hollywood studios would allow it.

SCREW THEM. Apple just needs to DO IT.

One iTunes Store. One world. Haven't any of these idiots heard of The Long Tail? It's digital. You don't have to worry about making crap available in a small market. Anyone anywhere should be able to buy anything anywhere.

Isn't anime kind of a big deal even in the U.S.? The Japanese Store would do well to release their stuff overseas.

And why should there be separate licenses for Hollywood movies in Europe? Just have them released digitally simultaneously (instead of the stupid months-later policy with discs) and they'll have so much more money all at once they'll fire whoever stopped them from doing this years ago.

I mean, how stupid can these people be?

And Apple has the perfect point of leverage to force the RIAA, MPAA, and their respective corporations overseas to do what Apple wants: Apple's about ⅓ of the music industry's profits now. All they have to do is say, "Look, we're making one worldwide iTunes Store. We're gonna make your stuff available for purchase everywhere in the world and everyone else's stuff available in [your country]. If you don't like it, that's fine. We'll just stop selling your stuff altogether. Everyone else will just keep making money."

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post #15 of 60
I went to http://www.apple.com/feedback and encouraged them to make the change, citing reasons (Apple IDs in 2 countries with purchases in each, necessitating multiple sign-out/-in cycles just to get free updates to paid apps).

Even if they do it, they may not "do it right" AFAIC, unless they also consolidate store purchases. All my purchases that weren't free are available in both stores. I can see a difficulty if an app is available only in a specific country's store, a potentially big burden on the developer to make it available everywhere.
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Which 'account' are we talking about, dealing with ?

iTunes, or AppStore, or Apple ID, or MobileMe ?

Know this - none of them know what the other is doing

None of the ID's/passwords/etc - not one works with another



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But that didn't seem to slow down the China Hackers a year ago, did it ?

Maybe we should let them figure a 'scheme' - cut out middle man ?




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Oh, and don't mess up an 'account' by using 'wrong ID/pass'

THAT will 'lock up' that account until Steve, the China Hackers, somebody

Personally comes to your home to show you the 'New and Improved Secret Handshake'

Which will allow you to change the ID/pass for the account that is 'frozen'



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Yea, what a load of shit

Thinking and writing about this 'subject' just pissing me off

Apple - get head out ass and fix it

Now



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post #17 of 60
About. Freaking. Time.

It's not a huge issue but it is annoyingly disorderly that I have an AppleID I set up years ago for iTunes and (Mac) App Store purchases and a separate one for MobileMe. I made the mistake of purchasing something on my MobileMe one once and when I got in touch to ask if the two could be merged I was amazed to hear the answer was no. Surely it's not a coding mountain to combine two sets of data under one user.

Incidentally, it is interesting to see this new spate of phone calls in response to customer emails. Steve Jobs is rightly considered a legend, but communication has long been Apple's Persian flaw. If Tim Cook is taking steps to change that then that's hugely refreshing and perhaps something new he can bring to the company.
post #18 of 60
I agree. The switch from mac.com to mobileme gave me two accounts. One is stagnant but it would be nice to have only one. My repairs and service are under the stagnant account and my mobileme is just mobileme stuff. I definitely want them to keept he sync with the keychain. I use 3 computers and like to have all those passwords synced all the time.
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Originally Posted by BC Kelly View Post

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Which 'account' are we talking about, dealing with ?

iTunes, or AppStore, or Apple ID, or MobileMe ?

Know this - none of them know what the other is doing

None of the ID's/passwords/etc - not one works with another

The first three are the same. You can manage them at appleid.apple.com. If you sign up for iTunes, the iOS App Store, or Mac App Store, you are creating an AppleID.

Each MobileMe account is also a discrete AppleID account.

Originally, one could create an iTunes Music Store account with a simple handle, like cvaldes. Today, you must use an e-mail address as your AppleID when creating a new AppleID.
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Originally Posted by 801 View Post

Won't this drop the number of individual accounts with credit card numbers that apple has on file? Isn't this something that SJ always made a point of during his keynotes?

Apple try to do what is best for the end user experience not to inflate or hype numbers. That's the tactics of Apple's competitors these days (shipped v sold numbers for example).

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post #21 of 60
I have 2 accounts because I moved to a different country. I have to keep both as I can't transfer any app purchases to my new account, so if I ever want to update them I have to log-in to my old account.
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Summarizing the real multiple account issue.

When iTunes first started, it used your email address as your apple ID. Later when loyal apple customers signed up and paid for mobile me, that account created a mac.com email, later changed without issue to me.com email, that was associated with an entirely new apple iD.

If you tried to switch your original email on your original iTunes account to your new mobile me email, you would get the message that the mobile me email is associated with an existing apple ID.

Their are a number of issues with this and I'll highlight one, but what makes it sad that apple has been dragging their feet on this issue is that original itunes and mobile me subscribers are among the most loyal apple customers.

Example issue: I originally sign up for iTunes with a comcast.net email. My apple ID is xxx@comcast.net. I later would like to change this to my mobile me email because I'm moving to an area that doesn't have comcast and I also would like all my iOS features to make use of the one mobile me email.

You can't change to the mobile me email. Apple won't let You. You can't keep it as is because comcast will eventually turn off your access to the email. So you are left with having to make a new email somewhere just to receive info on your iTunes account. This is sad. For all mobile me users and early iTunes adopters it should be fixed. Immediately.

One possible fix is iTunes match. If for 25 dollars it allows you to sync with apple everything you have on your machine, music, movies, apps etc,... Then this might be the solution. That is to say, all your content purchased with the original apple ID can be matched in the account associated with your mobile me email address.

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MOLLY
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

SCREW THEM. Apple just needs to DO IT.

One iTunes Store. One world. Haven't any of these idiots heard of The Long Tail? It's digital. You don't have to worry about making crap available in a small market. Anyone anywhere should be able to buy anything anywhere.

Isn't anime kind of a big deal even in the U.S.? The Japanese Store would do well to release their stuff overseas.

No, Anime sucks and Americans thoroughly hate it. Even just seeing the word makes me queasy.

I do agree with having a "world store" though.
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Originally Posted by EnglishMolly View Post

Summarizing the real multiple account issue.

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Regards

MOLLY

that's a nice little summary of at least primary causes Molly. I think iCloud is actually what is spurring them to finally address it. Looks like it will be, although the solution for all cases will take a while- a merge of multiple accounts into the free iCloud registration would cover most of them.

this is great news, even if it takes a while to get all of it fixed...

ken
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No, Anime sucks and Americans thoroughly hate it. Even just seeing the word makes me queasy.

I love how you think your personal preferences have any weight beyond your individual personal preference.

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I do agree with having a "world store" though.

Of course you do; if implemented, it would be the best idea since the iTunes Store itself.

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I love how you think your personal preferences have any weight beyond your individual personal preference.



Of course you do; if implemented, it would be the best idea since the iTunes Store itself.

Thanks for loving it. Although I must confess, your love is based on fiction as I was only making a joke. Saying that all Americans agree on any issue is absurd.

Why did I do it? Well, jokes are fun and lighten the mood, and sometimes make people laugh or smile. And it was fun getting little jab in against anime, which I do coincidentally dislike to some degree.

Lighten up a bit, you'll enjoy it more.


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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

SCREW THEM. Apple just needs to DO IT.

One iTunes Store. One world.

I mean, how stupid can these people be?

Not as stupid as some apparently.

It's more complicated than bitching in a forum.
post #28 of 60
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Originally Posted by xanthohappy View Post

... Wouldn't it be sweet if they just turned everybody's account into a "world account" and did away with all of the individual country stores. If only the record companies and Hollywood studios would allow it.

Ironically, it's the easiest fix for the excessively large amount of content pirating currently going on also.

The fact that a hit TV show or movie can be unavailable (legally) world-wide, for years after it's release in the country of origin is one of the main drivers of piracy. No one wants to wait years to watch the cool new shows or to see a movie.

Unfortunately those in charge of the media companies are older folks with a mainly American focus. It's one of the failings of American business in general that they truly don't see the fact that there is a world of stuff out there besides that which is produced in the USA. I know a great deal of the shows and movies I watch are downloaded "illegally" because it simply isn't available any other way and isn't for sale in the iTunes store in my country.

The media execs mainly see the world as demanding *American* content, and being willing to wait for it, when in fact there is a ton of other content out there, and (surprise!) no one really wants to wait for the American stuff anymore either. Needless to say it's this kind of xenophobic, last century thinking that's turning people off to the whole industry.
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My purchases were all made with a plain Apple ID. Apple requires an e-mail Apple ID for iCloud. Therefore, Apple has to merge IDs.
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I just hate it when companies require an ID to be an email address. Especially if when creating an ID, you're not sure if you want to do business with a company for a long time. So you may give them your spam email address that you really don't check too often, or you may give them your "real' email address, but then realize that you don't want to do business with them anymore.....etc.
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Originally Posted by myapplelove View Post

merging different country accounts would be sweet.

Amen to that
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Can't happen too soon!

I know.
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post #33 of 60
Instead of doing this, how about investing some time and effort into developing better security for the accounts than a simple password?

Google has Apple beat here, as does Facebook. Both offer two step authentication, something Apple badly needs if it wants to be taken seriously in the online space.
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The point of the article for me wasn't the specifics, rather that Tim was doing nicely at the helm. Good to hear.
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The first three are the same. You can manage them ...

yada, yada, yada

Today, you must use ... etc etc

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cvaldes

Yes, thanks for info - even though I sorta already knew it

Also, thanks to others for info, solutions, etc

Convoluted and confusing as they are

.

THE Point in all this ?

Simple and Elegant ?

Not even close

Which is what Apple has always done

And should be doing with this 'situation'

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As it is now ?

Just some half-ass Microsuck way of doing things

And not The Tao (The Path) to Change the World

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Not as stupid as some apparently.

It's more complicated than bitching in a forum.

lol, keep thinking that.

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post #37 of 60
Not sure why people seem to be saying that MobileMe is causing multiple account problems...

I created an Apple ID using my .Mac email address. I've used it ever since, and even though it was upgraded to MobileMe - I continue to use my .Mac email address with no problem. Purchasing in iTunes, Mac App Store, product registrations, etc. all work fine using my @mac.com address.

For me it seems that @mac.com and @me.com are the same thing to Apple - Same email and ID. (they both show up in my Mail, Calendar, etc.) Even if I sign into iTunes using my @me.com address, it automatically defaults to my @mac.com address - so one account, not two.

Anyways, merging ID's is still probably a good idea if it can be implemented safely (don't want to lose your own data, or have someone else combine your data with theirs).
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We have the opposite issue -- my wife and I have separate Mobile Me accounts, but use only my Apple ID for app/media purchases.

The thing is, we want our synching under iCloud to stay separate while continuing to use the same Apple ID -- I don't want her photostream & vice/versa, we have totally different bookmarks, etc. Will we be able to have separate iCloud accounts while still using the same Apple ID for Apps/media?
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Originally Posted by Ted13 View Post

We have the opposite issue -- my wife and I have separate Mobile Me accounts, but use only my Apple ID for app/media purchases.

The thing is, we want our synching under iCloud to stay separate while continuing to use the same Apple ID -- I don't want her photostream & vice/versa, we have totally different bookmarks, etc. Will we be able to have separate iCloud accounts while still using the same Apple ID for Apps/media?

To this I have to reply that Apple continues to move AWAY from being "family friendly". From the start of the AppleTV (and how only one person could sync their media - the rest had to stream) to iPads not having multiple "logins" - it's clear that Apple's focus is on having each person have their own device, account, etc. There's just no easy way to share apps between spouses, kids, etc. unless you share EVERYTHING (including photos and an email address).

iCloud will be no different. To each their own.
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Originally Posted by YodaMac View Post

To this I have to reply that Apple continues to move AWAY from being "family friendly". From the start of the AppleTV (and how only one person could sync their media - the rest had to stream) to iPads not having multiple "logins" - it's clear that Apple's focus is on having each person have their own device, account, etc. There's just no easy way to share apps between spouses, kids, etc. unless you share EVERYTHING (including photos and an email address).

iCloud will be no different. To each their own.

Actually that is quite false -- right now, our sharing is set up exactly the way we want it -- we share apps under a single Apple ID (so we only have to pay for them once) but have everything synched separately under separate MobileMe accounts.

Losing that is a huge problem with iCloud as I currently understand it.
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