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As uncertainty remains as to whether Apple will launch an "iPhone 4S," an "iPhone 5" -- or both -- in the coming weeks, new parts claimed to be for an upgraded iPhone 4 model have appeared.

The new images were sent to AppleInsider by iRepair India, and are claimed to be of a soon-to-be-released "iPhone 4S" model. The parts were reportedly supplied from Shenzhen, China.

The person who sent the components actually referred to the handset as an "iPhone 4GS," referencing the name of Apple's iPhone 3GS, first released in 2009. The supplier claimed there will be "no iPhone 5 this year," suggesting a major hardware revamp in 2011 could be questionable.

The supplier indicated that sample parts of virtually all components of the so-called "iPhone 4S" are available for purchase, including the battery, camera, home button, dock connector assembly, and display glass.

The co-founder of iRepair India told AppleInsider that he has been servicing Apple's portable hardware for three years and has known this particular Chinese supplier for that duration. He said the information provided by the source is "credible enough" for him.

The source reportedly indicated they are "really, really" sure that the components are genuine, and represent an unreleased iPhone from Apple.



The pictures provided show a number of components claimed to be from a new, unreleased iPhone from Apple. They include a camera housing, home button, front glass pane, and other internal circuitry.



Just this weekend, a leaked photo showed an "iPhone 4s" in AT&T's inventory system, generating more speculation about Apple's next iPhone upgrade. There have been suggestions that Apple will release two iPhone models this year, with a new low-end model that could help Apple break in to the pre-paid mobile market.



Though some reports have claimed that Apple's fifth-generation iPhone will sport a design largely similar to the current iPhone 4, a number of third-party case manufacturers have designed housings to fit a radically redesigned handset with curved sides and a potentially larger screen. Last week, The New York Times reported that Apple is just weeks away from announcing a new iPhone 5 that will have a "fairly different" appearance from the current iPhone 4. That report made no mention of an iPhone 4S.
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Regardless of what is going to be, there can only be one upgrade a year so anybody who think 4S isn't radical enough it is just a year away to the next one (taking into account the rumours so effectively will be less). I, myself will be disappointed if the upgrade is small since Im using a 3GS.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again now: if the best Apple can come up with after almost a year and a half is the same iPhone 4 with some upgraded components, they are going to have a ton of disappointed customers on their hands.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again now: if the best Apple can come up with after almost a year and a half is the same iPhone 4 with some upgraded components, they are going to have a ton of disappointed customers on their hands.

Wasn't the case with the 3GS. Hasn't been the case with any Apple product ever.

Millions don't care. Millions won't care. They'll buy it anyway.

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Regardless of what is going to be, there can only be one upgrade a year so anybody who think 4S isn't radical enough it is just a year away to the next one (taking into account the rumours so effectively will be less). I, myself will be disappointed if the upgrade is small since Im using a 3GS.

A year is too long to wait for the 5. As a 3GS user, the 4s still represents a pretty good upgrade. I just really want that 4" screen.

I'm to the point of thinking that Apple is intentionally leaking 4s stuff so that the 5 will be a huge surprise. Does it seem like Apple is not sending out a lot of C&D letters?
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I'm to the point of thinking that Apple is intentionally leaking 4s stuff so that the 5 will be a huge surprise. Does it seem like Apple is not sending out a lot of C&D letters?

It also seems that they haven't done that at all for at least three years, so it's not really an indicator of anything.

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I've said it before and I'll say it again now: if the best Apple can come up with after almost a year and a half is the same iPhone 4 with some upgraded components, they are going to have a ton of disappointed customers on their hands.

For most people, the big thing about this years iPhone is going to be iOS 5, not the hardware upgrade. The iPhone 5 will not have LTE, that's for sure, so bumping the CPU speed and doubling the RAM would make the iPhone 5 great for almost anyone looking for an iPhone.

I honestly don't see what would be so bad about just upping the specs on the iPhone 4, it's exactly what all the other manufacturers do all year round. What kind of brilliant unexpected features that would be useful to anyone do you expect from the iPhone 5? The iPhone 4 already does almost everything, and it's still one of the best looking phones around.
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Wasn't the case with the 3GS. Hasn't been the case with any Apple product ever.

Millions don't care. Millions won't care. They'll buy it anyway.

My wife and I each have an iPhone 3GS, and depending on what Apple unveils this year will determine if we'll be sticking with the iPhone or not. The reviews for the Epic Touch 4G Lightning look positive.

Back when the iPhone 3GS was released, Apple was still the smart phone leader for all to copy. The environment has shifted considerably since then. Apple is now playing catchup with iOS 4, and especially, 5. Android phones have long supported larger touch screens and dual-core processors, and they already support 3D, speech to text and widgets.

Apple's insistence on releasing one major OS and hardware update a year is seriously letting the competition blow past them with continual updates.
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For most people, the big thing about this years iPhone is going to be iOS 5, not the hardware upgrade. The iPhone 5 will not have LTE, that's for sure, so bumping the CPU speed and doubling the RAM would make the iPhone 5 great for almost anyone looking for an iPhone.

I honestly don't see what would be so bad about just upping the specs on the iPhone 4, it's exactly what all the other manufacturers do all year round. What kind of brilliant unexpected features that would be useful to anyone do you expect from the iPhone 5? The iPhone 4 already does almost everything, and it's still one of the best looking phones around.

That right there is why iFans expect more. Apple isn't "like every other manufacturer" and we don't want the company to start down that path. We expect more from Apple than we do from the imitators.
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The environment has shifted considerably since then.

Which is why everyone continues to simply copy Apple.

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Android larger touch screens 3D

Who gives a frick? I don't want a 4" phone. I don't want 3D gimmicks. And are you really claiming that iOS doesn't support larger touch screens? It's 2011. The iPad's out, you see.

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Apple's insistence on releasing one major OS and hardware update a year is seriously letting the competition blow past them with continual updates.

Funny, then, that a two year old iPhone sells better than anyone else's device.

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I've said it before and I'll say it again now: if the best Apple can come up with after almost a year and a half is the same iPhone 4 with some upgraded components, they are going to have a ton of disappointed customers on their hands.

I've said it before and I'll say it again now: the vast majority of Apple customers don't pay attention to things like tech rumor blogs.

They're consumers and will by whatever is on the store shelf, not worry about release dates, specs, blah blah blah. Which is why Apple sold a record setting 20 million iPhones last quarter despite a looming new model.

Heck, the number two selling smartphone in the United States is the iPhone 3GS, which is what, a twenty-six month old design?

Let's face it, if the fifth-generation iPhone is an incremental update over the iPhone 4, only tens of thousands of customers will be disappointed. They will probably sell 25 million of them in the holiday quarter. The number of "disappointed customers" will amount to 0.01%, which is why the iPhone towers over the competition in customer satisfaction surveys.
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Apple's insistence on releasing one major OS and hardware update a year is seriously letting the competition blow past them with continual updates.

Keep in mind, though, that the company with the best tech on the market isn't the winner. The company that's making the most profit wins, and right now the iPhone 4 and the iPhone 3GS are the top two smartphones on the market.

Us tech geeks may wail that the iPhone isn't being updated frequently enough or that it doesn't have the latest, greatest features, but the market as a whole is rewarding Apple for their strategy. It's hard to argue that Apple should change course when Apple is still selling the hell out of a phone that's over two years old.
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Nice legs... It may or may not be well known but ethnic Chinese do have very little body hair. I'm half-ethnic Chinese and have brown skin, so some people think I wax my chest when they see me at the beach . Yes, too much information, but then again, there's too little iPhone5 information so maybe it balances out... Or not.
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That right there is why iFans expect more. Apple isn't "like every other manufacturer" and we don't want the company to start down that path. We expect more from Apple than we do from the imitators.

Agreed... Up to now, with literally every iteration of the iPhone, Apple has surprised me with some feature or property that I didn't see coming. With the 2G it was the iPhone itself, with the 3G it was the app store, with the 3GS it was the enourmous speed bump, and with the 4 it was the retina screen and the general design. So most likely the 5 will again have one unexpected killer feature or something else about it that makes will surprise me, I'm just not sure what it will be.

That said, if they only do a speed bump, the iPhone 5 will still be a fantastic phone. Probably I won't upgrade from my 3GS though, but that's just because the 3GS itself is such a great device. Apple actually did a little too well, seeing that I wouldn't be bothered too much using my 3GS for three full years
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Bla-di-bla-di-bla.
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That said, if they only do a speed bump, the iPhone 5 will still be a fantastic phone. Probably I won't upgrade from my 3GS though, but that's just because the 3GS itself is such a great device. Apple actually did a little too well, seeing that I wouldn't be bothered too much using my 3GS for three full years

That's how I feel about my iPhone4. It's only been one year since I got it, and I could hold on to it for another year. But with Apple, you never know. iPhone5 could be Steve's last product he is/was deeply involved in.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again now: if the best Apple can come up with after almost a year and a half is the same iPhone 4 with some upgraded components, they are going to have a ton of disappointed customers on their hands.

I've said it before and I'll say it again now: if after almost a year and a half of selling the iPhone 4, (the singularly most popular and sucessful phone design of all time), they now change to a larger, flat 'mini-iPad' shaped device, they are going to have a ton of disappointed customers on their hands.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again now: the vast majority of Apple customers don't pay attention to things like tech rumor blogs.

They're consumers and will by whatever is on the store shelf, not worry about release dates, specs, blah blah blah. Which is why Apple sold a record setting 20 million iPhones last quarter despite a looming new model.

Heck, the number two selling smartphone in the United States is the iPhone 3GS, which is what, a twenty-six month old design?

Let's face it, if the fifth-generation iPhone is an incremental update over the iPhone 4, only tens of thousands of customers will be disappointed. They will probably sell 25 million of them in the holiday quarter. The number of "disappointed customers" will amount to 0.01%, which is why the iPhone towers over the competition in customer satisfaction surveys.

I keep hearing that blurb, but I'd like to see the breakdown of that. I'm willing to bet good money that most of those 20 million weren't sold in the states or countries that are expected to get the new phone right away. I'm betting most of those sales are in countries where the phone either just hit or it is still more than months from actually getting the new phone.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again now: if after almost a year and a half of selling the iPhone 4, (the singularly most popular and sucessful phone design of all time), they now change to a larger, flat 'mini-iPad' shaped device, they are going to have a ton of disappointed customers on their hands.

Based on the rumors, will there be much difference between the 5 and the 4s, aside from the screen size?
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I keep hearing that blurb, but I'd like to see the breakdown of that. I'm willing to bet good money that most of those 20 million weren't sold in the states or countries that are expected to get the new phone right away. I'm betting most of those sales are in countries where the phone either just hit or it is still more than months from actually getting the new phone.


iPhone 4 Still The Top Selling Smartphone In US
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If I were trying to protect my sources, I would've blurred out that QR code! I doubt it's really an issue, but Apple could probably use that to track down which plant, which line, etc. the leak came from.
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So with rumors running rampant & we're none the wiser, what do we know. Well, we know the following:

1. iOS 5 is coming this autumn (fall).
2. iCloud is coming this autumn.
3. No new iPods have been released, announced, or even rumored (Touch, Nano, etc...)
4. No new iPhone models have been released (but plenty of rumors).
5. October is month usually reserved for earnings, though in Oct. 2007, Apple did release Mac OS X Leopard.
6. As of today (09/19), no Apple event has been announced.
7. Rumors for August & September release of new iPhone were false, including reports about AT&T staff training and so on and so forth.

What we can speculate:

1. If Apple is going to release a new iPhone and/or iPods, it is going to happen in the next 5 weeks (minus 1 week for earnings) or wait until 2012. A November release is very unlikely considering the sheer amount of items slated for release, then with the first software update coming the next month.

2. Is the health of Steve Jobs affecting this in any way? (Remember it was 6 months prior that he was reported visiting a cancer clinic).

3. All the speculation, while interesting & helps to pass the time, is pointless. Apple already knows what it is going and not going to do. We just wish Apple would get on with it!
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Rumors for… …September release of new iPhone were false…

You can't possibly know that yet. No one can.

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it is going to have happen in the next 5 weeks

Nothing "has" to happen at any time. We only believe things happen when they usually do because of certain trends and preexisting notions.

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You can't possibly know that yet. No one can.



Nothing "has" to happen at any time. We only believe things happen when they usually do because of certain trends and preexisting notions.


Apologies, but the September 23 rumor for a new iPhone is not going to happen (today is Sept, 19), considering that Apple will host an event either when or before it is released (to demo the new hardware). You must factor in the arrangements for the event, including travel time for those not in California (7 days min. which puts us to Sept. 26 with then only a few days left in the month).

Also, I was speculating, if you had not noticed that. I do not pretend to know what is going to happen, merely speculating to what is likely or not.
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Agreed... Up to now, with literally every iteration of the iPhone, Apple has surprised me with some feature or property that I didn't see coming. With the 2G it was the iPhone itself, with the 3G it was the app store, with the 3GS it was the enourmous speed bump, and with the 4 it was the retina screen and the general design. So most likely the 5 will again have one unexpected killer feature or something else about it that makes will surprise me, I'm just not sure what it will be.

That said, if they only do a speed bump, the iPhone 5 will still be a fantastic phone. Probably I won't upgrade from my 3GS though, but that's just because the 3GS itself is such a great device. Apple actually did a little too well, seeing that I wouldn't be bothered too much using my 3GS for three full years

I have had the 3GS since day one to replace my 1st gen. Video was the feature I had to have because I was having a baby at the time. FaceTime was not some thing I really wanted till the user base was larger so I didn't mind not up grading when the 4 came out. Now though after draining the battery at least once a day for two+ years it is showing signs that the battery is pretty much worn out. From a full charge in the morning it's down to 20% or less by the middle of the day. The worse part is that if you do anything battery intensive (like try to take a picture) while the phone is low it will often do a hard crash and need a complete restart. So I am really looking forward to a new phone. Once I do have a new phone I might try to swap out the battery or just put it on a dock next to the couch to use as a apple tv remote. I wish Apple would put out a home theater receiver to replace my stupid Sony (what a terrible UI)
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Apologies, but the September 23 rumor for a new iPhone is not going to happen (today is Sept, 19), considering that Apple will host an event either when or before it is released (to demo the new hardware). You must factor in the arrangements for the event, including travel time for those not in California (7 days min. which puts us to Sept. 26 with then only a few days left in the month).

You can't say anything until it has already happened. The month isn't over yet.

Similarly, you can't say that there won't be an iPad 2.5 in 2011 because 2011 isn't over yet.

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My wife and I each have an iPhone 3GS, and depending on what Apple unveils this year will determine if we'll be sticking with the iPhone or not. The reviews for the Epic Touch 4G Lightning look positive.

Back when the iPhone 3GS was released, Apple was still the smart phone leader for all to copy. The environment has shifted considerably since then. Apple is now playing catchup with iOS 4, and especially, 5. Android phones have long supported larger touch screens and dual-core processors, and they already support 3D, speech to text and widgets.

Apple's insistence on releasing one major OS and hardware update a year is seriously letting the competition blow past them with continual updates.

Which as others have pointed out explains why the iPhone 4 and 3GS are the two top selling phones, and which, as I haven't seen pointed out in this thread, Apple has actually gained a few relative points of share recently over Android (mostly as RIM has gone into crash and burn mode and Symbian decays).

Add Sprint and likely T-Mobile plus that big CDMA company in China with even a minor upgrade and both of those trends will continue.

My two cents:

-The "delay" (if delay it is as "departure from [a three year old] tradition]) - is more related to getting all the software and cloud parts working right rather than from any issues with the hardware, which I think could have been delivered months ago - unless they were waiting on a particular radio chip for a power-sipping, SKU-slicing-in-half world phone. All your stuff everywhere with barely having to think of it is the big Kahuna that will give Apple a huge leg up on both MS and Google in the next phases of the endless digital revolution. And is an area where they've already failed multiple times to break beyond a niche with poor launches, overpriced services, etc. And I think they have an eye trained on Amazon as well, with the only other real software/merchandising ecosystem.

-Two new phones, yes, neither 4G.

-3.7-3.9" screen (any bigger and no claim of "retina") on the main upgrade - with zero-1mm increase in chassis width, and no overall increase in volume. Most people, and especially most women I know don't want to carry around a nerdy Godzilla phone.

-No iPad Pro or 2.5 or etc. this year - which I realize is talk that's died down. Mentioned again here because I feel iOS 5 will be a major enough upgrade itself for this line (and another argument for those who think the phones themselves won't change much hardware-wise).

-Despite the total blackout, some changes to the iPod line - hopefully ones which will re-invigorate its reason for being since the phones and pads have removed much of what made it so revolutionary. Touches are great gaming machines - perhaps some enhancements along this line??

But I don't buy the 5" or so model with or without 3G - as it would either not have a "retina display" or a very costly screen to fully double the pixels - and would effectively be a small iPad. Just doesn't play from either angle.

-A 3G Skype capable touch with a better camera though? Pros and cons. A 128 Touch to eclipse the Classic? Don't follow memory chip prices enough to know if that's feasible. No one seems to think the phone's going to 64 GB, which may answer that question.

-Fewer pod models? Apple's never been afraid to consolidate for whatever reasons.

-Dark Horse pick: a refresh of Apple TV with access to the store and apps on the home screen.

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My wife and I each have an iPhone 3GS, and depending on what Apple unveils this year will determine if we'll be sticking with the iPhone or not. The reviews for the Epic Touch 4G Lightning look positive.

Back when the iPhone 3GS was released, Apple was still the smart phone leader for all to copy. The environment has shifted considerably since then. Apple is now playing catchup with iOS 4, and especially, 5. Android phones have long supported larger touch screens and dual-core processors, and they already support 3D, speech to text and widgets.

Apple's insistence on releasing one major OS and hardware update a year is seriously letting the competition blow past them with continual updates.

You'll have to excuse me while I call bullcrap on your comment. Even the original iPhone is better than ANY Android phone because of one simple fact: it runs iOS. If all you care about is arbitrary hardware specs, then you should go get the Lightning today because the iPhone will NEVER be about winning the king-of-the-spec-mountain competition. How could a fractionally larger screen and a different looking enclosure be THAT important to you? If you can't appreciate the merit of iOS and everything the iPhone stands for, then the faster you switch to Android the better. Considering Apple now has a 25 BILLION dollar cushion over second place Exxon as the WEALTHIEST COMPANY IN THE WORLD, you won't be missed.
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Apologies, but the September 23 rumor for a new iPhone is not going to happen (today is Sept, 19), considering that Apple will host an event either when or before it is released (to demo the new hardware). You must factor in the arrangements for the event, including travel time for those not in California (7 days min. which puts us to Sept. 26 with then only a few days left in the month).

Also, I was speculating, if you had not noticed that. I do not pretend to know what is going to happen, merely speculating to what is likely or not.

This is something I've been thinking about as well. I think Apple will give the press some time before the announcement, but it's only going to be 3-4 days tops. As long as they host the event in a major city, they don't really need to allow people from all over the country to attend. Hell, if they even just recorded the event themselves and allowed the various news outlets and blogs to use the footage, it would still be a monumentally popular launch because there's SO much pent up demand for the iPhone 5. As far as I'm concerned, I'd much rather be able to watch a live stream of the announcement instead of having all the various blogs invited. I can't tell you how sick I am of searching for bootleg streams of Apple events just so I can watch like everyone else.

I hope they give maybe 2 days heads up, allow whoever to come that can make it, and post a public link for anyone else to watch.
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If I were trying to protect my sources, I would've blurred out that QR code! I doubt it's really an issue, but Apple could probably use that to track down which plant, which line, etc. the leak came from.

Anyone with a QR code reader.... what does it say?

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If I were trying to protect my sources, I would've blurred out that QR code! I doubt it's really an issue, but Apple could probably use that to track down which plant, which line, etc. the leak came from.

I tried to scan the code to see what info was on it but can't get a read!
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My wife and I each have an iPhone 3GS, and depending on what Apple unveils this year will determine if we'll be sticking with the iPhone or not. The reviews for the Epic Touch 4G Lightning look positive.

Back when the iPhone 3GS was released, Apple was still the smart phone leader for all to copy.

They still are.

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The environment has shifted considerably since then.

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Apple is now playing catchup with iOS 4, and especially, 5.

That is silly.

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Android phones have long supported larger touch screens and dual-core processors, and they already support 3D, speech to text and widgets.

Apple has the best touch screen in the business. That is a fact. No one really cares about dual core processors. Ditto on the other gimmicks, like 3D.

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Apple's insistence on releasing one major OS and hardware update a year is seriously letting the competition blow past them with continual updates.

You must be smoking crack. The iPhone still delivers a superior experience, especially with the screen quality and resolution. Many phones have technically better specs, but none delivers quite the experience the iPhone and iOS do, especially when the App Store is factored in.
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