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Following up to the Xoom, which failed to make a a splash after the release of Apple's iPad 2, Motorola is now expected to release another tablet by the end of this year, this time with a smaller 7-inch form factor.

The unnamed tablet from Motorola was pictured in a leaked photo provided to This is my next. It shows a thinner device with slightly angled corners running the tablet-centric "Honeycomb" build of Google's Android mobile operating system.

The hardware is expected to sport micro-USB and micro-HDMI ports and the screen appears to be a 16:9 widescreen orientation. The new tablet is believed to have a 7-inch screen, but it has not yet been publicly confirmed by Motorola.

The hardware maker, which recently announced a deal to be acquired by search giant Google, has publicly stated that it will release a "fun" and portable" 7-inch tablet by year's end.

Motorola's rumored new 7-inch tablet would be nearly three inches smaller than the 9.7-inch display of the iPad. Apple Chief Executive Steve Jobs panned 7-inch tablets as too small to be functional in a rare appearance on his company's quarterly earnings conference call last October.

"(A 7-inch screen size is) meaningless unless your tablet also includes sandpaper, so that the user can sand down their fingers to about one quarter of their present size," Jobs said. he revealed that Apple has done extensive research on touchscreen interfaces and what works best for users, which is how the company arrived at a 9.7-inch display for the iPad.

Motorola's first stab at an Android-powered tablet came in February with the 10.1-inch Xoom, a device the company attempted to create hype for with a Super Bowl commercial. But sales of the Xoom were just 440,000, a number well behind the record 9.25 million iPad 2 units Apple sold in the same three-month period.

Rumors that Motorola is working on a successor to the Xoom cropped up as early as March. And in April, it was alleged that sales of the Xoom were lower than some industry watchers expected, prompting other Android device makers to delay their tablets.



Last month it was revealed Apple chose to target the Xoom in a patent infringement lawsuit it filed against Motorola in Europe. The iPad maker hopes to block sales of the Xoom in Germany, as it has done with the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1.

Google announced its intention to acquire Motorola and get into the hardware business for tablets and smartphones as part of a $12.5 billion deal in August. While Motorola is a significant manufacturer of Android devices, Google's purchase of the company has been viewed as one largely about intellectual property as the Android platform has come under legal fire.
post #2 of 68
Imagine that there's a moderately funny joke about the descriptor "fun" here.

Can't think of one myself. Too busy being incredulous.
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Let me fix that for you:

Motorola to take another stab at the tablet market with new 7-inch tablet

iPad is cool, but not the only thing Motorola will have to contend with. Oh wait, this is AI, in your world it really is
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Shit, meet Wall.
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So you mean this device is supposed to compete with the "tablet market" as in RIM Playbook, HP Touchpad, Archos, (the about to be banned worldwide) Galaxy tabs et al?

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Are these guys just hoping that if they throw together enough different tablets then eventually one of them will catch on?
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Let me fix that for you:

Motorola to take another stab at the tablet market with new 7-inch tablet

iPad is cool, but not the only thing Motorola will have to contend with. Oh wait, this is AI, in your world it really is

However convenient it may be for AI, the fact remains that the iPad IS the tablet market at this moment in time.
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Shit, meet Wall.

"But Apple needs competition" rehash from a fandroid in 3,2,1...

"Apple should pull the plug on the iPhone."

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Does anybody want a 7" tablet? I simply do not understand the reasoning behind this form factor. The Dell Steak was a disaster, and was always going to be.

Scenario:

I have a task I need to perform. I have my smart phone in my pocket. My 7" tablet is in my bag/car/bedroom.

Under what circumstances would I think to myself 'this would be a lot easier on my 7" tablet, I won't just make do with my smart phone and I won't open up my laptop. No, the 7" tablet is clearly the choice here'?

The iPad is all the advantages of a smart phone without the inherent downside of having to be small enough to fit in a pocket. Once you decide it doesn't have to fit in a pocket, why on earth would you stop at 7"? The only limits a tablet should come up against are weight and the size of an average bag.

Isn't this utterly obvious?
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"But Apple needs competition" rehash from a fandroid in 3,2,1...

Either that or someone will start quoting the specs of the new tablet and proclaiming how much better they are versus the iPad.
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Originally Posted by chronster View Post

Let me fix that for you:

Motorola to take another stab at the tablet market with new 7-inch tablet

iPad is cool, but not the only thing Motorola will have to contend with. Oh wait, this is AI, in your world it really is

Actually, the headline is correct... Googorola will start cranking out tablets to compete with the iPad. All their other partners have failed them, so Google has to step up to the plate to take a swing at Apple.
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Are these guys just hoping that if they throw together enough different tablets then eventually one of them will catch on?

No, they are hoping to capitalize on the fact that one size doesn't fit all. iPad can't be everything to everyone, so that is where the other guys come in. Maybe someone only wants a 7" tablet. Or, maybe someone wants something that only works 50% of the time. Maybe people like frozen tablets and rebooting all the time!

You have to think about the wants of others!
post #13 of 68
I have to agree, whats the point at the late stage of the game to show up with another tablet, for it to have any vaule it better be $99 as shown by HP.
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Does anybody want a 7" tablet? I simply do not understand the reasoning behind this form factor. The Dell Steak was a disaster, and was always going to be.

My kids have 7" tablets... I load them up with iCarly videos, and it works for them. They watch while laying in bed or riding in the car.

Beyond the kid market, the 7" form factor just feels like an oversized smartphone/undersized tablet to me.
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Either that or someone will start quoting the specs of the new tablet and proclaiming how much better they are versus the iPad.

"Where I work there are 3 Motorola pads for every iPad."
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Does anybody want a 7" tablet? I simply do not understand the reasoning behind this form factor. The Dell Steak was a disaster, and was always going to be.

Scenario:

I have a task I need to perform. I have my smart phone in my pocket. My 7" tablet is in my bag/car/bedroom.

Under what circumstances would I think to myself 'this would be a lot easier on my 7" tablet, I won't just make do with my smart phone and I won't open up my laptop. No, the 7" tablet is clearly the choice here'?

The iPad is all the advantages of a smart phone without the inherent downside of having to be small enough to fit in a pocket. Once you decide it doesn't have to fit in a pocket, why on earth would you stop at 7"? The only limits a tablet should come up against are weight and the size of an average bag.

Isn't this utterly obvious?

You'd think that it is so obvious that it should be (have been) co-obvious
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post #17 of 68
and why do they keep making 7in tablets can't they realize there're not selling you have a better chance at selling a 10 inch tablet than the 7inch
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"Where I work there are 3 Motorola pads for every iPad."

At Motorola?
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My kids have 7" tablets... I load them up with iCarly videos, and it works for them. They watch while laying in bed or riding in the car.

Beyond the kid market, the 7" form factor just feels like an oversized smartphone/undersized tablet to me.

It looks like Motorola is going to supply a bunch more cheap 7" pads for the kids. $49 by January. At this rate you'll be able to upgrade fairly often for a decent price.
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At Motorola?

There's only 2 Moto pads for every iPad at Motorola.
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"(A 7-inch screen size is) meaningless unless your tablet also includes sandpaper, so that the user can sand down their fingers to about one quarter of their present size," Jobs said. he revealed that Apple has done extensive research on touchscreen interfaces and what works best for users, which is how the company arrived at a 9.7-inch display for the iPad.

Makes you wonder how people use iPhones and iPod Touches!

Those things must be downright useless!
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Makes you wonder how people use iPhones and iPod Touches!

Those things must be downright useless!

I think they use them as phones and ipods. With the occasional simplistic app thrown in.
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another Android clone 7" tablet no one needs. not to mention the cheapos from Archos et al that are taking the give-the-kids-anything-to-shut-them-up market Moto can't compete with in price. or the upcoming Amazon 7" shopping tab that Moto also can't compete with in utility.

these are just guys trying to keep themselves employed by cranking stuff out no matter what. how soon do you think Google will chop 5000 Moto employees, eh? and "focus" R&D?

that said, i do wish Apple would release a 5.5" iPod touch. about 2.5x the screen area, but still small and running the iPhone OS. would be great for games and video.
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It looks like Motorola is going to supply a bunch more cheap 7" pads for the kids. $49 by January. At this rate you'll be able to upgrade fairly often for a decent price.

If they were to create and market a tablet just for kids, they might snag a nice chunk of the market

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"Where I work there are 3 Motorola pads for every iPad."

Best Buy returns department?
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At Motorola?

Probably works at the local dump.
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Let me fix that for you:

Motorola to take another stab at the tablet market with new 7-inch tablet

iPad is cool, but not the only thing Motorola will have to contend with. Oh wait, this is AI, in your world it really is

About like it is the MP3 player not iPod market. \ Move along, moron!
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At Motorola?

I wonder what their kids use at home.

One thing is for sure: either the kids are deeply embarrassed because their mom/dad is forcing this stuff on them, or mom/dad is deeply embarrassed because their kids must go "what's that stuff you make, again?"
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I am not an Apple fanboy. In fact I am rather critical of Apple most of the time, but I use their products because they are the best choice for me. Now that I have that out of the way, I feel that this Motorola tablet is:

DOOMED...Doomed I say!!!

I cannot see buying anything but an iPad right now if I really wanted a slate type device. In the future I likely will buy a Windows 8 slate because it supports Handwriting Recognition, which is important for input of Japanese kanji. VERY IMPORTANT if you need to input the kanji to look up the meaning but don't have a clue how to pronounce it.

And NO, the iOS devices cannot do this. There is a Chinese handwriting input system that sort of works, but no very well at all.

Come on MS get to it. We need at least two competitors to help improve the market with competition ... and we need to completely exterminate Android!!!!
post #31 of 68
This tablet has a different design than the iPad, yet Samsung and all of its apologists claim that there is only one way to design a table...
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Best Buy returns department?

Quip of the day!
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Does anybody want a 7" tablet? I simply do not understand the reasoning behind this form factor. The Dell Steak was a disaster, and was always going to be.

I like the nook color.

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Scenario:

I have a task I need to perform. I have my smart phone in my pocket. My 7" tablet is in my bag/car/bedroom.

Under what circumstances would I think to myself 'this would be a lot easier on my 7" tablet, I won't just make do with my smart phone and I won't open up my laptop. No, the 7" tablet is clearly the choice here'?

When the task is watching a movie or reading a book? For a movie the screen isn't that much smaller than on the iPad (less letterboxing).

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The iPad is all the advantages of a smart phone without the inherent downside of having to be small enough to fit in a pocket. Once you decide it doesn't have to fit in a pocket, why on earth would you stop at 7"? The only limits a tablet should come up against are weight and the size of an average bag.

Isn't this utterly obvious?

Weight, size and COST. It's far less annoying for my kids to wreck a $250 nook (or kindle) than my 3G high end iPad. Or low end iPad for that matter.

For games, simple apps (like K-12 teaching apps), email and movies the 7" is just fine. Web surfing is a little more awkward but passable.
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"Where I work there are 3 Motorola pads for every iPad."

"Everyone I know uses the iPad as a toy."

"Apple should pull the plug on the iPhone."

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Best Buy returns department?

That would be 1000 to 1.
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I feel sorry for the few dumb suckers who are gonna buy this tablet.

Actually, I lied, I don't feel sorry for them at all.

If people wish to gamble with their money on highly suspect and risky tablets, then go for it! Just don't come and whine when you see it on Woot 6 weeks after you buy it.
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Does anybody want a 7" tablet? I simply do not understand the reasoning behind this form factor. The Dell Steak was a disaster, and was always going to be.

Scenario:


Under what circumstances would I think to myself 'this would be a lot easier on my 7" tablet, I won't just make do with my smart phone and I won't open up my laptop. No, the 7" tablet is clearly the choice here'?
?

I wouldn't mind a 7inch iPod Touch. The reason being that a 7inch iPod Touch could fit in a jacket pocket, whereas the iPad wouldn't.

Why not just my iPhone?

Simple.

My eyesight simply isn't as good as it used to be.

In the last 3 years it's gone from being better than average to requiring reading glasses. As a result, I know need glasses for distance AND close up. But, I don't always carry reading glasses with me.

So, while I would prefer using an iPad for Tablet applications, a 7inch iPod Touch would make more sense, for me, than their iPhone counterparts.
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My kids have 7" tablets... I load them up with iCarly videos, and it works for them. They watch while laying in bed or riding in the car.

Beyond the kid market, the 7" form factor just feels like an oversized smartphone/undersized tablet to me.

So it is really in the big iPod Touch market
post #39 of 68
If they price it at $99, it won't matter what POS they release.
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Actually, Motorola shipped, not sold, 440,000 tablets in that quarter.

Shipping to stores is not the same thing has selling to customers (especially to customers who keep and use the product).
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