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Bill Buxton of Microsoft Research calls Steve Jobs' patents a lesson for CEOs

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Steve Jobs' name wasn't just slapped on a variety of Apple patents, but rather the depth of his contributions as chief executive of Apple offers a lesson for other leaders.

Writing for Fortune, Bill Buxton, a pioneer in humancomputer interaction and former researcher at Xerox PARC who is now a principal researcher at Microsoft Research, observed that Steve Jobs is listed as an inventor on 313 patents, and the lead inventor of more than 30.

But Jobs' credits as an inventor or co-inventor among Apple's patents were not just honorific, Buxton wrote. "Based on my own experience, I find Steve's participation entirely credible."

He added, "Apple would be stupid to put anyone's name on a patent, much less a high profile name like Steve's, if that person hadn't made a legitimate contribution. Doing so would not only invalidate the patent, it would expose the company and its brand to serious damage when revealed. Apple is many things; stupid is not one of them."

Buxton noted that while collaborating with Jonathan Ive on over 200 design patents, Jobs still left Ive in charge of design, which he said reinforces the lesson that "you must have a senior design executive, and they must engage at the highest level."

Following Jobs' example, Buxton wrote, "executives need to know their own weaknesses as well as their strengths in order to make sure that all of the requisite ground is covered", offering the recommendation "study how he managed the delegation of those other aspects of the business while he was working with Jonathan and the design team. Then emulate that in managing the things that fall outside of your own personal comfort zone -- such as design, for example."

Buxton concluded, "Steve Jobs was not, and is not, a designer. Nor, I suspect, would he ever describe himself as such. He spoke about Apple's success in terms of curating the customer's experience. I think that is a great way to put it. And so, while I don't consider him a designer, I do believe that he is certainly one of the greatest curators that I have ever met, or know of. And for that, he has always had my respect."

Buxton describes himself as "a relentless advocate for innovation, design, and - especially - the appropriate consideration of human values, capacity, and culture in the conception, implementation, and use of new products and technologies."
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Finally, vindication for the curators of the world.
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Time and time again we hear the same tired story of how events should be remembered and applied, and learned from it.

The reality is most CEO's have zero vision, they know they have zero vision, and their egos will prevent them from admitting it.

People like Steve Jobs, HP's founders, etc... they were a special breed of people.

CEO's nowadays simply care about the bottom line, and have zero interest in doing something that actually improves society as a whole. The way the universities pump out MBA's and these clowns think they're ready to lead/create companies is hysterical to say the least.
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But Jobs' credits an an inventor or co-inventor

Typo #5 today
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Sometimes we need to step back and listen to the real experts and innovators. I always get upset by the vitriol spewed at Steve Jobs by the anonymous denizens of tech forums. But then I remember that these types are just know-nothing tools. Their comments are just about as important as the dingle-berries hanging from a cow's behind, mine included. Every real expert in the tech world knows what Jobs accomplished and how he changed the way we live and use technology. Hell even I knew that the first time I laid eyes on an Apple ][+ in 1982 and I'm not that smart.
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I have Bill's book, "Sketching User Experiences". He has a large section of the book devoted to Apple and Steve Jobs. His feelings about this aren't new.
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..... who is now a principle researcher at Microsoft Research....

OK, #6, since we're counting....
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Steve jobs is a visionary. He imagines something, then he figures out how to do it. Except he doesn't figure out all the details. He leaves that to his design engineers and then Ive puts it in a pretty package (which probably requires design engineers to figure that part out, too).

I think Steve truly does see how it would be used, how something could change the world.
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Steve jobs is a visionary. He imagines something, then he figures out how to do it. Except he doesn't figure out all the details. He leaves that to his design engineers and then Ive puts it in a pretty package (which probably requires design engineers to figure that part out, too).

The process is probably quite a bit more integrated than that. Products like Apple's can't arise from a "let the engineers figure it out" kind of process any more than it can form a "have the designer make a pretty package" one.
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OK, #6, since we're counting....

Maybe he is researching principles, MS could use some.
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Straight talk!
This is saying it as it is.
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Typo #5 today

Grammar cops are more irritating than typos.

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post #13 of 52
That's nice praise coming from a Microsoft employee. Steve was always a hands-on person.
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Typo #5 today

Technically, it's not a typo if it correctly produces a valid word. It's a grammatical error.
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Time and time again we hear the same tired story of how events should be remembered and applied, and learned from it.

The reality is most CEO's have zero vision, they know they have zero vision, and their egos will prevent them from admitting it.

People like Steve Jobs, HP's founders, etc... they were a special breed of people.

CEO's nowadays simply care about the bottom line, and have zero interest in doing something that actually improves society as a whole. The way the universities pump out MBA's and these clowns think they're ready to lead/create companies is hysterical to say the least.

Well said.

IN the "midst" of the Lionization of Steve Jobs -- we can respect his accomplishments without trying to make him super human.

His "organization skills" are clearly, to me, his greatest strengths.

>> But what made Apple Great -- was something that ANY executive or corporation can do; have a mission to do something great.

These execs have one foot out the door ready to use their golden parachute -- and yes, their major claim to fame is being "well connected." Harvard MBAs do well, because they get open doors from other Harvard MBAs -- but other than an army of people well schooled in "Chicago School" economics, and treating people like Cogs and corporations like ATMs -- I think MBAs are the best way American has invented to suck out the "vision" from companies.

The iPad was just Job's commitment to doing it right -- no matter how long it took. It isn't especially innovative -- other than being DESIGNED to be a tablet, rather than a dumbed down laptop. It's the execution and the creation of a platform that would permit other to make it great.


>> Right now, Apple is the biggest company in the world in terms of money -- and they didn't do that by hiring shills to lie about pollution, nor use Futures Contracts to make Gas cost more.

Whether or not Jobs made his company profitable -- he made a few excellent things that will enhance the lives of a lot of people. Some other company might have eventually created something LIKE the iPhone, or iPad -- but it would have had "features" and no soul.

It's the "integration" with iTunes, the native development environment, and the attention to detail rather than checkmarks on features lists.

>> The REALLY innovative thing was getting the licensing deals for iTunes and controlling the iPhone launch so AT&T couldn't make it suck. Jobs was willing to wait to roll out the iPhone to find the right provider.
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Grammar cops are more irritating than typos.

word. expect less.
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Grammar cops are more irritating than typos.

That's your problem, not the grammar cop's, no?

As an aside, there's nothing wrong with demanding - no, expecting - that a high-profile, widely-quoted outlet like AI aspire to write better. Better writing (incl. the right grammar, not having typos, good punctuation, etc) is not uncorrelated with clearer thinking.
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Grammar cops are more irritating than typos.

I would beg to differ.
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Are these accolades like this and a few other recent similar stories because Steve Jobs is now resigned from Apple and "peers", for a lack of a better word, are reflecting so Steve can appreciate their sentiments or do some within the inner circles know more than the average folk?

Karma-nizing 'well wishes and good health to one Steve Jobs'... join me people, Good Karma is a good thing.
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That's your problem, not the grammar cop's, no?

As an aside, there's nothing wrong with demanding - no, expecting - that a high-profile, widely-quoted outlet like AI aspire to write better. Better writing (incl. the right grammar, not having typos, good punctuation, etc) is not uncorrelated with clearer thinking.

Not really, since it clogs the thread.

Has anyone ever posted a good sentence and complimented a writer here, by the way?

Also, should we start quoting each other's posts whenever there is a typo just so everyone knows?

If one wants to constructively criticize the orthography then he or she should email the editors, really.

I hope someone finds and points out several typos in this post.
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OK, #6, since we're counting....

Maybe not, perhaps Microsoft decided to develop the principles they were lacking, so set up a department in order to do so.
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post #22 of 52
I was watching the Walt Disney special the other evening on MSNBC and they way described Walt was the way people have described Steve Jobs and it occurred to me that Steve is the Walt Disney of his day in his field. Total visionary, total control, megalomaniac, but in the end he knows what scores, and he isn't without some failures, but never let that get him down.
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Originally Posted by sflocal View Post

Time and time again we hear the same tired story of how events should be remembered and applied, and learned from it.

The reality is most CEO's have zero vision, they know they have zero vision, and their egos will prevent them from admitting it.

People like Steve Jobs, HP's founders, etc... they were a special breed of people.

CEO's nowadays simply care about the bottom line, and have zero interest in doing something that actually improves society as a whole. The way the universities pump out MBA's and these clowns think they're ready to lead/create companies is hysterical to say the least.

Amen. Most of these guys have but one skill: They know how to insinuate themselves into a generously-compensated executive position. Their skills are political. But that's it. Few of them could have built their companies, as Jobs and Disney and men like that did.
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Apt words from Buxton.

And I'd say, that so far, Steve Jobs is Earth's quintessential CEO.

Here's the full article. http://management.fortune.cnn.com/20...esson-for-ceos
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Not really, since it clogs the thread.

Has anyone ever posted a good sentence and complimented a writer here, by the way?

Also, should we start quoting each other's posts whenever there is a typo just so everyone knows?

If one wants to constructively criticize the orthography then he or she should email the editors, really.

I hope someone finds and points out several typos in this post.

You can unclog it using the "ignore" feature. Moreover, on the subject of clogging, posts such as yours (quoted above) are a prime example.

"Should we start quoting each others' posts" over typos? Assuming it's not a rhetorical question, the fact is, few people do. So it's moot.
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Typo #5 today

Please sotp!
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Technically, it's not a typo if it correctly produces a valid word. It's a grammatical error.

Actually, it's a lexical error (wrong word) not a grammatical error (wrong word order). See Skitt's Law http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...in-to-Poe.html

@anan&c: >That's your problem, not the grammar cop's, no?<

Not entirely; writers of tech news reports are working quickly and would be pleased to have suggested corrections if they are made politely in the spirit of getting things right.
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@anand You must be either an HTC or Samsung employee! Stop this bitching about typos and grammar, etc. Stick to the core of the post. BTW, AI is not an highly quoted site, matter of back I don't think anyone quotes them. AI and MacRumors are basically sister sites where they cross post same stories :-)
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Time and time again we hear the same tired story of how events should be remembered and applied, and learned from it.

The reality is most CEO's have zero vision, they know they have zero vision, and their egos will prevent them from admitting it.

People like Steve Jobs, HP's founders, etc... they were a special breed of people.

CEO's nowadays simply care about the bottom line, and have zero interest in doing something that actually improves society as a whole. The way the universities pump out MBA's and these clowns think they're ready to lead/create companies is hysterical to say the least.

Negotiating their golden parachute is usually their first preoccupation.
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Buxton describes himself as "a relentless advocate for innovation, design, and - especially - the appropriate consideration of human values, capacity, and culture in the conception, implementation, and use of new products and technologies."


... and yet, he works for microsoft.
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Buxton is one of the well respected people at MS. With such an article, I wonder if he's trying to increase his profile still higher and head towards management? Or, at least assume more control, laying out a direction for such a leadership position at MS, with him taking that spot. It would be interesting... and welcome. I welcome better MS products, especially Word for Mac!

He's a great speaker by the way if people can catch his talks and keynotes.
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I would beg to differ.

I don't. Grammer cops add nothing to the thread.
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Buxton is one of the well respected people at MS. With such an article, I wonder if he's trying to increase his profile still higher and head towards management? Or, at least assume more control, laying out a direction for such a leadership position at MS, with him taking that spot. It would be interesting... and welcome. I welcome better MS products, especially Word for Mac!

He's a great speaker by the way if people can catch his talks and keynotes.

Ok, I just read the entire article. Very different from my comments here (and the writeup). Very Buxton sounding. Very insightful. Not sounding like Buxton is taking over MS. Too bad, I wish he had more interest in that.
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Really anantksundaram?

Since when do you put an ellipsis and a period together like you have?

If you cannot practise what you preach, please – just stick to reading the article.
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Really anantksundaram?

Since when do you put an ellipsis and a period together like you have?

If you cannot practise what you preach, please just stick to reading the article.

Two posts.

Razzing on a guy complaining about a poster who exists to spam.

Sounds legit.

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Typo #5 today

I was wondering when you'd show up. I was missing you.
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Actually, it's a lexical error (wrong word) not a grammatical error (wrong word order). See Skitt's Law http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...in-to-Poe.html

@anan&c: >That's your problem, not the grammar cop's, no?<

Not entirely; writers of tech news reports are working quickly and would be pleased to have suggested corrections if they are made politely in the spirit of getting things right.

Typo police, then grammar-typo police, then lexical-grammar-typo police. Lions & tigers and bears! Oh my!

This is a rumor site, not even a reputable blog. Can we all just stop trying to enforce some long forgotten lost art of journalism school? We get cattiness over grammar in a rumor site, when most "news" sites are little more than personal columns rife with interpretation and opinion -- without the explicit break between the editorial and the factual. When you can get real news sites to actually act like they have reporters and not entertainers then maybe it will be worth the effort to strong-arm Kasper's Slaves on their typing skills.
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Typo #5 today

Since you have the ability to find these spelling and grammar errors so quickly, why don't you email him instead of going off-topic, which to the best of my knowledge isn't allowed at this site?
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Typo #5 today

The vast majority of readers never notice the grammar/typos in the first place. But you grammar cops then force them in our faces. And because AI writers are human there will always be grammar mistakes. They will NEVER go away. Announcements of grammar mistakes should be sent via private message to the author and not forced repeatedly on to readers.

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