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In the midst of a tense legal dispute with Apple, Samsung strangely appears to have borrowed the iPhone maker's icons for the App Store and Mobile Safari for inclusion on a wall of app icons at a "shop in shop" retail location in Italy.

Update: SetteB.IT reports (via Google Translate) that the app wall is part of the Euronics store's design and not commissioned by Samsung.

A photo of the South Korean electronics giant's new mini-shop, located inside a Euronics store at the "Centro Sicilia" shopping mall in Catania, Italy, appears to show one wall of the shop covered with app icons, including several apps from Apple found only on its iOS platform, AllThingsD reports (via HD Blog).

It should be noted, however, that it's not immediately clear whether Samsung authorized the app wall as part of its shop. Samsung did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

According to the photo, the store's display features a prominent advertisement for the Galaxy Ace smartphone and contains a number of demo units of the company's smartphones and tablets. A variety of accessories also appear to be on offer at the shop.

Samsung and Apple will directly compete with each other at the Centro Sicilia, as Apple is set to open an Apple Store there on Saturday.

Interestingly enough, the photo has appeared even as Samsung has vowed to be "more aggressive" in its legal action against Apple. The company's head of global marketing for mobile communications, Lee Younghee, accused the iPhone maker of "free riding" on Samsung's patents and promised to be less "passive" in its approach.



The company made good on its claim by filing new patent infringement suits against Apple in the Netherlands. The complaints seek to ban the iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4, first-generation iPad and iPad 2. Samsung executives have also reportedly said that the company is already planning a legal assault of the iPhone 5.

"For as long as Apple does not drop mobile telecommunications functions, it would be impossible for it to sell its i-branded products without using our patents. We will stick to a strong stance against Apple during the lingering legal fights," one senior executive for the company allegedly said.

For its part, Apple has accused Samsung of "slavish" copying of its iPhone and iPad. Lawsuits have since come in a rapid back-and-forth; all told, the two companies have racked up more than 20 complaints against each other.

Courts in Germany and Australia have sided with Apple, blocking Samsung's Galaxy Tab 10.1 from sale in their countries.\t

The legal dispute between the two companies may have also affected their business relationship. In addition to competing with the iPhone maker, Samsung also serves as a supplier to critical components to Apple. According to one estimate, Apple will become Samsung's biggest customer this year with $7.8 billion in orders.

But, recent reports suggest that Apple may have turned elsewhere for production of its A-series processors and flash memory as its relationship with Samsung has worsened.
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Reposted with additions.

Is this display furnished by Samsung? Are the back wall graphics also supplied by Samsung, assuming that any of the display comes direct from them, or are those elements a part of the retailers decor, perhaps repeated on other walls removed from Samsung's display? What does the rest of the retailers shop look like?

Did the company producing the graphics receive the proper releases before creating them? If all the elements were contracted by Samsung, did they have releases to use each of the logos for marketing purposes? Is this an official Samsung-designed and supplied sales area or one created by the retailer to display Samsung products?

Not nearly enough known to make any judgement.
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That's rich.
So rich.
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True that, but there are 20 more logos on that wall that they probably don't have permission to post either.

Total disregard for intellectual property.

Instant karma on deck.

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I got the pitchforks... You get the torches!
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post #6 of 256
...vowed to step up their copytition. Lol
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I'm reminded of the "Absolutedesignz" guy. This tops the ironic chart, wether or not it was a designer, retailer, or Samsung themselves that commissioned it.
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For as long as Apple does not drop mobile telecommunications functions, it would be impossible for it to sell its i-branded products without using our patents.

That would seem to directly imply that it's patents are necessary for the operation of the industry, thus FRAND, thus they cannot prevent Apple from licensing them.
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That would seem to directly imply that it's patents are necessary for the operation of the industry, thus FRAND, thus they cannot prevent Apple from licensing them.

And that brings up two potential defenses.

First that the patents in question could be part of a standard and Apple could show they licensed the standard from the combined 'owners'

Second is that Samsung was approached and refused to license to Apple or asked for terms that were extreme and unfair.

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That would seem to directly imply that it's patents are necessary for the operation of the industry, thus FRAND, thus they cannot prevent Apple from licensing them.

How did you do that? Really! Did someone named Samsung post that and the moderators got rid of the post before I saw it?

Sorry, still learning.
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And that brings up two potential defenses.

First that the patents in question could be part of a standard and Apple could show they licensed the standard from the combined 'owners'

Second is that Samsung was approached and refused to license to Apple or asked for terms that were extreme and unfair.

Or the third possibility that Apple management already had their minds made up that they weren't negotiating with Samsung on anything. Period.

In any case this isn't a big deal. They agree on a fair licensing fee, Apple pays up, and they go on their merry way.

Apple already had a FRAND licensing exercise with Nokia. Rather than take a chance in court, Apple paid up, threw in a few Apple patent licenses to Nokia, and every one went away happy. The same will happen here (sans rights to any Apple patents)
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How did you do that? Really! Did someone named Samsung post that and the moderators got rid of the post before I saw it?

Sorry, still learning.

I just used the quote tags with "Samsung" as the author.

(quote="Quoted person")Quoted text.(/quote)

Replace () with []
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I just used the quote tags with "Samsung" as the author.

(quote="Quoted person")Quoted text.(/quote)

Replace () with []

Thank you! :o)
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I have the patent for the word "slavish" , so please remove it from your article.

Bwah!
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I have the patent for the word "slavish" , so please remove it from your article.

Bwah!

I have a patent on "having patents for words" so please stop talking.

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I'm reminded of the "Absolutedesignz" guy. This tops the ironic chart, wether or not it was a designer, retailer, or Samsung themselves that commissioned it.

Glad to know I cross your mind
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Glad to know I cross your mind

I like reading views from both sides. That probably just blackballed me, but I think I'm on everyone's ignore list anyway...
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Wait, so are the cupcakes all gone?
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Yep, there's no doubt the executives at Samsung decided to paint a wall in some obscure location in Italy with app logos taken from iOS while thinking "that'll learn em!"



My RSS feed needs to rid itself of this tabloid grade trash.
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Yep, there's no doubt the executives at Samsung decided to paint a wall in some obscure location in Italy with app logos taken from iOS while thinking "that'll learn em!"



My RSS feed needs to rid itself of this tabloid grade trash.

And so posting to the tabloid grade trash site is part of that strategy?
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Wait, so are the cupcakes all gone?

Seemed assholeish lol
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I assumed it was assholeish by design.
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This just shows no one really pays any attention at samsung to let this slip though. or they just dont really care, and just want to say "look we got them apps every one are talking about too"
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Reposted with additions.

Is this display furnished by Samsung? Are the back wall graphics also supplied by Samsung, assuming that any of the display comes direct from them, or are those elements a part of the retailers decor, perhaps repeated on other walls removed from Samsung's display? What does the rest of the retailers shop look like?

Did the company producing the graphics receive the proper releases before creating them? If all the elements were contracted by Samsung, did they have releases to use each of the logos for marketing purposes? Is this an official Samsung-designed and supplied sales area or one created by the retailer to display Samsung products?

Not nearly enough known to make any judgement.

It IS a Samsung store.
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It IS a Samsung store.

Quoted from the original AI article:
"A photo of the South Korean electronics giant's new mini-shop, located inside a Euronics store. . .
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All jellous: Samsung = next Apple! Iphone made in Korea (of Korean components), using Samsung CPU. Apple steal IP from Samsung, VIA, S3. Apple will lose lawsuit, pay billions!
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Quoted from the original AI article:
"A photo of the South Korean electronics giant's new mini-shop, located inside a Euronics store. . .

Yes. It's a Samsung store within another store, just the way Apple does it. Are you saying that Apple isn't responsible for the way their stores within a store are set up? Are you saying that Apple isn't responsible if they also have the photo's of that store within a store on their own website and don't bother to look to see if everything's correct?

Oh, you know you would blame them. But this isn't Apple, so you're on their side.
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All jellous: Samsung = next Apple! Iphone made in Korea (of Korean components), using Samsung CPU. Apple steal IP from Samsung, VIA, S3. Apple will lose lawsuit, pay billions!

Oh look! a new baby troll. Isn't he cute?

Anybody have a milk bottle. Need a strong nipple though. I hear they bite.
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All jellous: Samsung = next Apple! Iphone made in Korea (of Korean components), using Samsung CPU. Apple steal IP from Samsung, VIA, S3. Apple will lose lawsuit, pay billions!

Well, you may not be the one that follows, but you're certainly going to be one of the shorter-lived trolls here.

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This is why I hate commenting on AI articles. You make one funny little comment early on, and you get stuck listening to ALLLLL THISSSSSSS
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Yes. It's a Samsung store within another store, just the way Apple does it. Are you saying that Apple isn't responsible for the way their stores within a store are set up? Are you saying that Apple isn't responsible if they also have the photo's of that store within a store on their own website and don't bother to look to see if everything's correct?

Oh, you know you blame them. But this isn't Apple, so you're on their side.

Geez Mel. I'm not saying anything about Apple.
Now you know how Euronics stores are set up too? And that Samsung does the setup up of their mini-displays just like Apple does their stores. And that everything in the photo was put there by Samsung? And no one has releases for anything on the walls? I should have just asked you in the first place rather than posting questions I have to ask/answer for clients several times a year as part of my business services.
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Geez Mel. I'm not saying anything about Apple.

Well, anything good, at least.

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Well, anything good, at least.

Touche'
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This is absolutely disgusting behaviour.... the final brick in the wall....

EU must take action now to ban Samsung from Europe.
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Geez Mel. I'm not saying anything about Apple.
Now you know how Euronics stores are set up too? And that Samsung sets up their mini-displays just like Apple does their stores. And that everything in the photo was put there by Samsung? And no one has releases for anything on the walls? I should have just asked you in the first place rather than posting questions I have to ask/answer for clients several times a year as part of my business services.

It's the responsibility of the company whose store within a store it is. That means Samsung. Seriously! To make excuses is nuts! Samsung should have checked that out carefully. They should have demanded a picture of it before it was built. AND they should have made sure that every other companies images were allowable under trademark laws applicable wherever the store is. This is standard procedure. I had a commercial photo lab. I had to ask my customers if I could put one of their images up on my walls. You aren't allowed to do this. Can you imagine Apple not checking every detail first? Of course not!

Why are you so quick to give Samsung a pass?

You're not saying anything about Apple because it doesn't involve Apple directly. They didn't do anything. I'm asking you directly if you would give Apple a pass if it happened to them. A quick yes or no would be fine.
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Well, anything good, at least.

Yeah.
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Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post

Reposted with additions.

Is this display furnished by Samsung? Are the back wall graphics also supplied by Samsung, assuming that any of the display comes direct from them, or are those elements a part of the retailers decor, perhaps repeated on other walls removed from Samsung's display? What does the rest of the retailers shop look like?

Did the company producing the graphics receive the proper releases before creating them? If all the elements were contracted by Samsung, did they have releases to use each of the logos for marketing purposes? Is this an official Samsung-designed and supplied sales area or one created by the retailer to display Samsung products?

Not nearly enough known to make any judgement.

this must be a sad day for an Apple-hater like you. hehe

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Geez Mel. I'm not saying anything about Apple.
Now you know how Euronics stores are set up too? And that Samsung does the setup up of their mini-displays just like Apple does their stores. And that everything in the photo was put there by Samsung? And no one has releases for anything on the walls? I should have just asked you in the first place rather than posting questions I have to ask/answer for clients several times a year as part of my business services.


FACT: Samsung is trying to mislead buyers into thinking they're buying an iPhone.

Samsung is a shameless copycat and everyone knows it. JUST F'IN ADMIT IT.

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It's the responsibility of the company whose store within a store it is. That means Samsung. Seriously! To make excuses is nuts! Samsung should have checked that out carefully. They should have demanded a picture of it before it was built. AND they should have made sure that every other companies images were allowable under trademark laws applicable wherever the store is. This is standard procedure. I had a commercial photo lab. I had to asks my customers if I could put one of their images up on my walls. You aren't allowed to do this. Can you imaging Apple not checking every detail first? Of course not!

Why are you so quick to give Samsung a pass?

Asking pertinent questions is not the same as giving a pass, and how Apple does retail has no bearing on this. Why are you so quick to claim Samsung guilty. . of something. With nothing more to go on than a photo taken inside another retailer's store? Seriously.

I've worked with General Growth, one of the largest mall developer's in the world, for over 15 years. I've set up 1000's of store displays and related signage/messaging, including in-store kiosks within other stores. Worked in cities from Savannah, GA to Pembroke, FL, handling in-mall promotions for 17 different properties. In nearly every instance I've had to deal with, the contract seller within the store has little to say about what is in the background of their area. They pay for a certain square footage for a certain term. Sometimes a 3rd party provider supplies the display elements. Other times the store itself handles setup and requires the 3rd-party staff to work from their facilities. At other times the seller handles every detail, including setup. And often a company like mine is contracted to design/produce/install the design elements.

In this case you have little idea what you're talking about. IMHO, you simply missed the part of the story that mentioned the display was within another retailers's store when trying to correct me, then tried to cover with an 'authoritive" post. There is no "rule" about how the contract seller handles the display/setup requirements. It varies with circumstances, thus the reason for the questions I posed.
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You're not saying anything about Apple because it doesn't involve Apple directly. They didn't do anything. I'm asking you directly if you would give Apple a pass if it happened to them. A quick yes or no would be fine.

I'd ask the exact same questions.
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