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post #161 of 189
9/27/11 at 11:02pm
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How much do you think iPhone 4 16GB will cost after the iPhone 5 come out?

On eBay? Between 300-350 bucks, which is a lot less than what I got for my unlocked 3Gs last year. Retail, well that's anyone's guess, but I'd say the 16 and 32's will be pulled completely, and used for warranty exchanges or moved to other countries like China. I'd expect an 8 gig version of the 4 to replace the 3Gs at the 99 dollar price point.
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post #162 of 189
9/28/11 at 1:00am
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No one, to date, has actually gotten voice control right. Either the error rate is too high, it's slow, you have to jump through too many hoops, or it's just easier to press some buttons.

My Motorola V710 and E815 both had REALLY good voice controls. Almost no errors, even with an address book with hundreds of entries. No "training", no hoops. Just push one button, say "call addabox mobile" and BAM it calls you. When I finally switched to my first iPhone, it was a huge step back not having this feature.

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post #163 of 189
9/28/11 at 1:12am
I am with the side who thinks there's a double meaning in the "talk iPhone." The speech recog/personal assistant is going to be a major new selling point. I just hope it understands my Australian accent.
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post #164 of 189
9/28/11 at 1:14am
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I am with the side who thinks there's a double meaning in the "talk iPhone." The speech recog/personal assistant is going to be a major new selling point. I just hope it understands my Australian accent.

The phone, like myself, probably won't understand most of what you say.

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post #165 of 189
9/28/11 at 3:01am
There is a danger in reading too much into this. Here's a nice list of all the special events with tag lines - http://bit.ly/qhGvME; they don't always have special meaning
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post #166 of 189
9/28/11 at 3:37am
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There is a danger in reading too much into this. Here's a nice list of all the special events with tag lines - http://bit.ly/qhGvME; they don't always have special meaning

Good list but where's all the iPhone events (+one more thing) on that last? Clearly something is missing.
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post #167 of 189
9/28/11 at 4:20am
I think the invitation says

*CALENDAR- the date October 4 Tuesday

*CLOCK- the time 10 am

*MAP-the place apple headquarters infinite loop

*PHONE- with "1" on the top Means maybe 1 iPhone to launch?
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post #168 of 189
9/28/11 at 5:08am
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Originally Posted by island hermit View Post

Did anyone mention the fact that it shows a mechanical clock rather than a digital clock? Just saying...

That's the standard clock icon, used to show in this case the event is at 10am. Nothing more, nothing less, IMO.
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post #169 of 189
9/28/11 at 5:42am
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Originally Posted by AjbDtc826 View Post

Or "talk" could be targeting Nuance's voice technology. Just wanted to throw that in there

And let's not forget Apple's purchase of AI company, Siri. Perhaps Apple has been designing a new microphone system, as the case and display couldn't really get that much better. That would allow more fluent command of your iPhone regardless of noisy or unpredictable audio conditions.
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post #170 of 189
9/28/11 at 6:00am
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Originally Posted by AjbDtc826 View Post

Hmmmmmmmmm the keyword "talk" lends to thoughts of some kind of focus on voice? LTE-prepared iPhone?
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I know I'm really scraping the barell here. It would be nice if all Apple stores did become LTE towers somehow. Too bad there were no remodelings for higher (much higher) ceilings! Lol

Oh dear. Lots of new tech for features I have no interest in.

As a 3G owner I might have to upgrade just to have a phone that can run its own OS.

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post #171 of 189
9/28/11 at 6:33am
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Originally Posted by johnnielse View Post

Good list but where's all the iPhone events (+one more thing) on that last? Clearly something is missing.

Until now, there has been no such thing as an iPhone event.
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post #172 of 189
9/28/11 at 7:46am
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That's the standard clock icon, used to show in this case the event is at 10am. Nothing more, nothing less, IMO.

This could mean that there will be fewer changes than anticipated... just the standard stuff.

j/k
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post #173 of 189
9/28/11 at 10:38am
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Originally Posted by iReality85 View Post

The 4th of October as a double entendre.

Where do you get the October month from? It's nowhere in the icon. Same mistake AI makes in the article when they describe the icons...
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post #174 of 189
9/28/11 at 10:46am
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Where do you get the October month from? It's nowhere in the icon. Same mistake AI makes in the article when they describe the icons...

Deductive reasoning. The inclusion of Tuesday and 4 point to next Tuesday, October 4th, which concides with it's typical week long lead in before an event. Same goes for the 10:00; that could technically be 10pm or Eastern Time, but there is precedence for 10am Pacific Time.
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post #175 of 189
9/28/11 at 10:48am
And in case that seems like a leap, the last Tuesday to fall on the 4th was in January and the next one won't be till a year from now, so.....
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post #176 of 189
9/28/11 at 10:57am
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And in case that seems like a leap, the last Tuesday to fall on the 4th was in January and the next one won't be till a year from now, so.....

So... you're saying the "new" iPhone won't really be available for another year yet ?!?!?!

Damn!!!... I was actually looking forward to replacing my 3GS next month!
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post #177 of 189
9/28/11 at 11:10am
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Deductive reasoning. The inclusion of Tuesday and 4 point to next Tuesday, October 4th, which concides with it's typical week long lead in before an event. Same goes for the 10:00; that could technically be 10pm or Eastern Time, but there is precedence for 10am Pacific Time.

I like that! 'Deductive reasoning'. Of course I was splitting hairs there, but you are absolutely right. Thanks for explaining.
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post #178 of 189
9/28/11 at 2:58pm
BTW, haven't seen another thought on this, but while it's got cues and info "cleverly" embedded in the invite, this is about the lamest event announcement thingie I can recall since Apple became so event driven. First sign of less sweating the details in the Post-Steve times? Or am I just lacking in taste, and it's the coolest ever?
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Or "talk" could be targeting Nuance's voice technology. Just wanted to throw that in there

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The whole talk thing is clearly the updated voice control "assistant" thing that was talked about recently, voice recognition for text input and such not just changing songs and voice dialling.

Lengthy article on "Assistant" here
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Not if you're buying it as a fashion accessory. If it doesn't have arbitrary changes to the form factor, you're just another schlub with last year's toy.

Ahh, those were the days - when every car manufacturer changed over nearly the whole body line every fall. It peaked with the successively amazing '55, '56 and '57 Chevies and no one knew at the time, but Detroit's decline set in slowly but shortly thereafter. There was a classic Playboy cartoon about the competing new aesthetic - the cops have just removed a gag from a tied up man and he tells them, "They made their getaway in a '63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68 or 69 Volkwagen....."
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The number 1 on the missed call = only 1 model will be announced. Either it is 4S or 5. It will not be both.

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Let's talk iPhone! The only thing that means is that iPod Touch its going to dissapear....

facts:

- There wasn't a new iPhone this year's june. It's been always in june since 2007.
- There wasn't a music event this year's september. It's been always in september the new iPod models.
- This october 4th event calls it Let's talk iPhone! so, what's with the new iPods? That one is too obvious.
- A lot of people do not buy iPhones because of the contract.
- Apple needs to give more options.

It surely didn't say "Let's talk iPhones or iPods.....
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4G is a dealbreaker for me. I really hope it has 4G but, from what I am reading, it may not have it.

Read WILL not have it. No small enough/power efficient enough/cheap enough radio.
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If it was made out of transparent aluminum, that would be COOL.

If it was made out of transparent Admantium, that would be cooler!
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I think there is a high probability of HSPA+ '4G', not so sure about LTE '4G', and definitely not the ITU-T defined LTE Advanced '4G' you seem to be referencing.

HSPA+ would give ATT a leg up, but no one else I know of. And it does have to accomodate some minor changes to grab that ungrabbed CDMA/TDMA company in China and Sprint.

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post #179 of 189
9/28/11 at 7:17pm
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BTW, haven't seen another thought on this, but while it's got cues and info "cleverly" embedded in the invite, this is about the lamest event announcement thingie I can recall since Apple became so event driven. First sign of less sweating the details in the Post-Steve times? Or am I just lacking in taste, and it's the coolest ever?

It ain't stellar, so yes, this is all "post-Steve". But Apple now has more pressing issues to execute on, it need not be so constantly clever in everything. iOS5, iPhone5, iPad3, redesigned MacBooks, plus prepping the product pipeline. There's a lot to be done that need not be too clever. That's where Tim Cook comes in. Let's just hope he and someone else can step up to the plate of vision and innovation close enough to Steve in the next three years. But for the immediate future, it's about smooth execution and just making enough gosh darned iPhones and iPads for everyone especially China. China, China, China. Scary, but a lot of the fate of humanity's financial future rests on China. Or at least the "markets" think so, for this decade anyway.
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post #180 of 189
9/30/11 at 1:33pm
Hey guys,
I just wanted to put in my input here. I've been considering what the "1" might mean and I have come to a conclusion that it simply signifies that they had a "missed release" (June; like a missed call). I doubt it signifies much else.
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post #181 of 189
9/30/11 at 1:50pm
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Let's talk iPhone! The only thing that means is that iPod Touch its going to disappear.



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Apple knows that device it's a waste of technology

Okay, I'll bite. In what way?

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You can buy it as a Touch if you don't want the phone

So it's not at all going to disappear in any way, shape, or form. Got it.

And LIKE FUN the carriers would let it be a "use whatever plan you want" device. iPhone (proper) sales would stop existing entirely.

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- There wasn't a new iPhone this year's june. It's been always in june since 2007.

Well, July save the first model, but who's counting.

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- Apple needs to give more options.

How is that a 'fact'? It's subjective as all get out.
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post #182 of 189
9/30/11 at 3:12pm
can't wait to buy 2 iphone 5"s

how are you going to do this,
go to a physical store
buy direct from apple
do you think amazon will presell?
go to local ATT wait list, wait in line
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post #183 of 189
9/30/11 at 6:38pm
My bet is that Apple will launch a touch screen iPhone nano relying solely on the headset for audio and voice to control. Look at the 4 icons in the invitation. Just the same size as the nano touch. A perfect way to launch a low cost phone that didn't sacrifice features to lower the price. Instead it would raise the bar on a popular existing product!
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post #184 of 189
9/30/11 at 6:49pm
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iPhone nano

YES! YES YES YES!

Hello, 2008! Man, I was WONDERING when someone would finally bring this nonsense back up!

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A perfect way to launch a low cost phone that didn't sacrifice features to lower the price.

Didn't sacrifice features?! Are you freaking kidding me?! How would a 1" screened phone not sacrifice features?!

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Instead it would raise the bar on a popular existing product!

The stupidly-large-screeners will call me a hypocrite, but a 1" screen on a phone is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Ever. And this is from a guy who actually uses a phone that has a 1" screen on a semi-daily basis. Well, 1.8". Way too small and it isn't even touch.
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post #185 of 189
9/30/11 at 7:14pm
Didn't sacrifice features?! Are you freaking kidding me?! How would a 1" screened phone not sacrifice features?!
> It adds to a nano, not takes away from a standard iPhone.


The stupidly-large-screeners will call me a hypocrite, but a 1" screen on a phone is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Ever. And this is from a guy who actually uses a phone that has a 1" screen on a semi-daily basis. Well, 1.8". Way too small and it isn't even touch.
> That's the point of the tagline - "Let's talk iPhone". It's voice controlled. Remember that the shuffle doesn't even have a screen...


My guess is they launch a true iPhone 5, and an iPhone nano as one more thing.
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post #186 of 189
9/30/11 at 7:19pm
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> It adds to a nano, not takes away from a standard iPhone.

I'm not sure Apple wants a fourth branch of iOS.

Basically it would be a nano+a cellular radio. Never mind that it's physically impossible to fit any cellular chip into that size; let's ignore that right now.

That's all it would be. An iPod nano plus calling. So what would you do with it? You can't hold it to your face, it's 1.48"x1.61". It's too small.

So what, you're forced to use headphones to make calls? Zero sold day one. Zero sold one year later.

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That's the point of the tagline - "Let's talk iPhone". It's voice controlled. Remember that the shuffle doesn't even have a screen...

Ah, the iPhone shuffle. Randomly call your contacts. I see. Voice tech, even Nuance voice tech, isn't good enough to do pure voice-based control.

So it's not remotely an iPhone, then. It's a completely different product.

Aside: for future reference, use the quote system built into the forum. It makes posts way more readable.
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post #187 of 189
9/30/11 at 7:20pm
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My bet is that Apple will launch a touch screen iPhone nano relying solely on the headset for audio and voice to control. Look at the 4 icons in the invitation. Just the same size as the nano touch. A perfect way to launch a low cost phone that didn't sacrifice features to lower the price. Instead it would raise the bar on a popular existing product!

now as tim cook says that would be "clever"
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post #188 of 189
9/30/11 at 7:21pm
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It adds to a nano, not takes away from a standard iPhone.

1) Please learn to quote comments. It makes them easier to read.

2) How does a 1" 1:1 display compared to the current 3.5" 3:2 display not take away from the standard iPhone. Do you not realize that the iPod Nano doesn't run iOS nor have the requisite performance capabilities to run iOS. Even if that somehow materialized you would still need to get a decent battery usage out of a phone with a very small battery. Finally, no default iPhone app or App Store app is going run on this device's display. IOW, there is nothing standard about it.
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post #189 of 189
10/1/11 at 3:22am
With just a couple of days to go (3 Days 6 Hours 38 Minutes to be exact), where are the elevator pictures???

Go get 'em!


With a 4, I likely won't be upgrading this time around...

 

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