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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

Even if the phone announced is the "spec bump" version rumoured, it's hardly "minor." Twice the processor, nine times the graphics, four times the memory, greatly improved camera, etc. etc. and that's just the minimum hardware bump. Add iOS 5.0 in there and it will be a certain winner.

The i4 is more than most people need. Unless the form factor is changed, and even if it is a "winner" (however anybody wants to define THAT) it will be hard to see it as major.

But loosey-goosey words aside, lots of people have been waiting a long time, and expect something more than an old style phone with a few better specs. Many of those folks might be disappointed with less than what was expected.
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Originally Posted by Shaun, UK View Post

I hope it's not all iPhone and we get some new iPods to.

They might update the iPods under the radar and just place them in the store. The updates to the lineup probably aren't significant. Apple will need the entire time of the event for the iPhone likely.
post #43 of 189
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Not if you're buying it as a fashion accessory. If it doesn't have arbitrary changes to the form factor, you're just another schlub with last year's toy.

If you're interested in quick churn to feed a relentless need for novelty you're more likely to be an Android customer, I would think.

Outside of some modest tweaks, to date Apple has basically made two styles of iPhone-- the original and the 4. Anyone looking for constant, surprising overhauls to the case parts are barking up the wrong tree.
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post #44 of 189
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Judging from past invitations, Apple loves hidden meanings. I'm seeing a lot of "4" references here.

- 4 icons.

- The sum of all visible digits, divided by the number of icons:
4+10+280+1=295.
2+9+5=16.
16/4=4

Or, If you take the map icon as meaning 1 Infinite Loop:
4+10+1+1=16
16/4=4.

Wow. I don't know whether to be suitably impressed at your analysis, intrigued by Apple's potential emphasis on symbolism - or just plain scared!
post #45 of 189
The number 1 on the missed call = only 1 model will be announced. Either it is 4S or 5. It will not be both.
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Scotty: Computer! Computer?
[He's handed a mouse, and he speaks into it]
Scotty: Hello, computer.
Dr. Nichols: Just use the keyboard.
Scotty: Keyboard. How quaint.

FWIW I believe the Assistant can address you by name IIRC. Gimmicky perhaps, but certainly more personable.
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post #47 of 189
WOOOOOOOT !

Let's go iOS5 !!!!!
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post #48 of 189
What economic crisis? What unemployment numbers? iPhone 5 is upon us, everything will be ok!
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post #49 of 189
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Originally Posted by iReality85 View Post

Hmm, iPhone 4S or iPhone 5?

Judging from past invitations, Apple loves hidden meanings. I'm seeing a lot of "4" references here.

- The 4th of October as a double entendre.

- 4 icons.

- The sum of all visible digits, divided by the number of icons:
4+10+280+1=295.
2+9+5=16.
16/4=4

Or, If you take the map icon as meaning 1 Infinite Loop:
4+10+1+1=16
16/4=4.


Ok, I'll put my tinfoil hat away!

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post #50 of 189
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I had figured most of you were already aware of the upcoming integrated voice-search using Sari's tech....

Perhaps the most useful new feature IMHO, and unfortunately reported not compatible/unavailable for any of the current or older iPhone models. Gotta have a reason to buy a new phone , right?

Why do you suppose it would not be compatible with iPhone 4? Kind of risky to keep a system wide integrated feature out of the developer builds just as a wow factor presentation item.

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Ugh.



Double ugh. Better be able to turn it off. There's little I hate more in the tech world that overly intrusive software. Remember "Clippy"? This better not be Clippy *with a voice*.

I doubt that the OS response is spoken. Rather, you talk to the phone and it presents you with choices-- so that if you say "call Joe" you'll get a list of any numbers you have for Joe, which is just as it should be. Not intrusive at all, since you've already chosen voice control at that point and the OS isn't just throwing up options willy nilly ala Clippy.

I have to say, if the rumored voice control/recognition is as slick and integrated as rumored, I think it will a huge game changer, one of the biggest Apple has ever done.

No one, to date, has actually gotten voice control right. Either the error rate is too high, it's slow, you have to jump through too many hoops, or it's just easier to press some buttons.

What is being described works as follows: you long press the home button, say "Dinner with Jim tomorrow night at 7 at the nearest Chow", and the OS (apparently almost instantly) makes a calendar entry, shows a map for where the restaurant is, and offers a phone number to touch so you can call and make a reservation. Or, with the Wolfram Alpha integration, long press the home button and say "How many kilometers in 15 miles?" and you get a number almost instantly. Or "how far from here to St. Louis?" You get the idea.

It makes the iPhone a different kind of device, in a way that neatly sidesteps all the old problems of shoehorning an intuitive way of doing complex things into a tiny form factor. If they've actually pulled it off, it will be a huge coup and sales driver, and one that really lends itself to some killer ads.
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why, what did you hear about the iPhone 6?

A little birdy told me there'll be three versions, an iPhone 6, an iPhone 5S and an iPhone 4SS, the last of which is completely free, but you agree to be constantly wiretapped.

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I heard it'll support LTE and have a curved screen.

I heard it'll have 1TB of storage and 1GB of RAM
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I doubt that the OS response is spoken. .

In "conversation mode" it will be spoken, more like a 2 way question and answer chat.
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one that really lends itself to some killer ads.

There are already Android ads that depict nearly the same functions. Apple will really need to show the world their system is easier and better than Google's.
post #56 of 189
Sooo. But the iPhone 6
I think......
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I heard it'll have 1TB of storage and 1GB of RAM

MS-DOS 4.0 optional - includes a graphical/mouse interface.
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Why do you suppose it would not be compatible with iPhone 4? Kind of risky to keep a system wide integrated feature out of the developer builds just as a wow factor presentation item.

Reportedly Apple claims the iPhone 4's hardware isn't robust enough to support the feature.
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post #59 of 189
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There are already Android ads that depict nearly the same functions. Apple will really need to show the world their system is easier and better than Google's.

No they won't. Few iOS users would jump ship to Android just for this feature, even if it was better. . . Which I don't think will be the case.

Apple's pretty good about making sure features are as complete as possible. They might not be first, but more often than not it's done right.
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Reportedly Apple claims the iPhone 4's hardware isn't robust enough to support the feature.

Reportedly they want to sell more phones

I swear that my iPhone 3G runs slower than it did half a year ago and I have not done an iOS update. I dunno... Speaking of tinfoil hats....
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Reportedly Apple claims the iPhone 4's hardware isn't robust enough to support the feature.

Just like the A4 isn't good enough to support 1080p out, right.

Frigging Apple.

Yes, I know the complaints about bitrate and whatever, but when has Apple cared about anyone's content but their own? When iTunes gets 1080p movies, the bitrate will be so frigging low that the A4 could handle it easily. That's all that matters to them, so why not just activate support for OUR stuff now?

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Originally Posted by eksodos View Post

Hell yeah I'm ordering 10 of everything they announce, definitely!!!! I'm so excited for this moment to arrive, this will be the happiest day of my life.

I think you need to get out more. It's just a consumer product for heavens sake.
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Reportedly Apple claims the iPhone 4's hardware isn't robust enough to support the feature.


I don't know. Dragon Dictation already does pretty good voice to text.

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Apple's pretty good about making sure features are as complete as possible. They might not be first, but more often than not it's done right.

Auto Spell Correction being one exception.

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I don't know. Dragon Dictation already does pretty good voice to text.

But the full integration of Siri/Assistant will need the updated specs, so says the rumor mill.
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The i4 is more than most people need. ... lots of people have been waiting a long time, and expect something more than an old style phone with a few better specs. Many of those folks might be disappointed with less than what was expected.

You use hyperbole too much. Nothing you say is believable because you are so extreme in your statements.

Last year's phone design is clearly not "an old style phone." Also, you say at the beginning that the phone is more than most people need, and finish up by saying that the increased spec will be less than what they expect (and thus disappointing). These are entirely opposite statements.
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Apple on Tuesday sent out invitations to members of the press for an event on its Cupertino, Calif. campus next Tuesday, Oct. 4, with the tagline "Let's talk iPhone."

As was previously rumored, the presentation will be led by Apple Chief Executive Tim Cook, who will introduce the company's next-generation iPhone. The event is scheduled for 10 a.m. Pacific, and AppleInsider will have full live coverage.

In related news, Samsung is holding a press conference one week later at 10 am. They changed the date in the calendar icon and changed the location in the map icon and left everything else the same. That proves they're not copying.......
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post #68 of 189
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Originally Posted by iReality85 View Post

Hmm, iPhone 4S or iPhone 5?

Judging from past invitations, Apple loves hidden meanings. I'm seeing a lot of "4" references here.

- The 4th of October as a double entendre.

- 4 icons.

- The sum of all visible digits, divided by the number of icons:
4+10+280+1=295.
2+9+5=16.
16/4=4

Or, If you take the map icon as meaning 1 Infinite Loop:
4+10+1+1=16
16/4=4.


Ok, I'll put my tinfoil hat away!

But the clock shows digits 1 thru 12 you only used the 10
post #69 of 189
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Originally Posted by Crowley View Post

A little birdy told me there'll be three versions, an iPhone 6, an iPhone 5S and an iPhone 4SS, the last of which is completely free, but you agree to be constantly wiretapped.

No, those are the Samsung/Android copies of the iPhone.
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post #70 of 189
This is conference is all about talking. People seem to forget that you don't have to text like a 13 year old.
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

Couldn't this be a voice mail instead of a missed call? It would make more sense.

Doesn't the iPhone use a '+' on the phone icon to indicate voicemail, rather than a number?

I think the '1' indicates that there's one new iPhone.
post #72 of 189
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

Couldn't this be a voice mail instead of a missed call? It would make more sense.

If it was a voice mail, the number would have been 2 ...

1 = missed call
1 = voice mail that follows
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2
post #73 of 189
If it has LTE on Verizon, I will probably get one. I don't want to wait another 2 years for LTE.
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But the clock shows digits 1 thru 12 you only used the 10

Well, I was going by the implied meaning of the clock, which is "10 AM"


Also, more tinfoil hatting (I can't help myself):

The number of characters in "Let's talk iPhone." (including apostrophe and period) is 16.

16, as we all know, is a perfect square of 4.
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1) So will this be held at 1 Infinite Loop, Moscone, or elsewhere?

2) Will it be streamed live?

3) Off topic: When they move the main campus to the Spaceship or update to their own mapping backend will they also change the Maps icon to showcase the Spaceship campus or stick with 1 Infinite Loop for sentimental reasons?
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post #76 of 189
The small auditorium will not have room for everyone.
Don't think Mr. S. Jobs will be present. He could probably be on the other side of the world.
That way they could show of their iMessage and all the other 'Goodies'.
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Fuck yeah!!!!!!
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If it was a voice mail, the number would have been 2 ...

1 = missed call
1 = voice mail that follows
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2

You can leave a voicemail without the call going through. Especially when out of service the '1' will pop up when the voicemail can be delivered to the phone.
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But the full integration of Siri/Assistant will need the updated specs, so says the rumor mill.


Well if the rumor mill says so, I guess it must be true.

I know they made iMovie iPhone 4 exclusive due to cpu requirements, but that I understand since we are talking about video editing. Unless there is some other hardware consideration such as a new noise filtering microphone (just an example) that makes the voice system work, I don't see why it would need so much more cpu capabilities to deal with voice and database applications.

I hate voice control anyway so I don't need it, but I'm happy if they deliver it for those of you who want it. As long as I can turn it off I'm happy.

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1) So will this be held at 1 Infinite Loop, Moscone, or elsewhere?

2) Will it be streamed live?

3) Off topic: When they move the main campus to the Spaceship or update to their own mapping backend will they also change the Maps icon to showcase the Spaceship campus or stick with 1 Infinite Loop for sentimental reasons?

1) Covered in the original article.

2) No one knows. We'll have to wait and see.

3) No one knows. We'll have to wait and see.
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