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post #41 of 65
9/29/11 at 12:46pm
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

It's too bad because this really is a slick looking device.

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http://swipe.nokia.com/ Is Nokia still turning a quarterly profit or have they fallen into the red?

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Originally Posted by pembroke View Post

My daughter has a Nokia. Not sure what the model is - C3?, but it's a lovely phone for calling, texting and taking pics. It looks classy too with a brushed metal finish. And it is Much, much cheaper on monthly payments on contract than my iPhone. She has no desire to play games or squint at internet pages. She has no desire to be continually connected to the Internet, most things that are 'desperate to know' can actually wait till she's back on her computer at some point. She LOVES her Nokia phone!

Yes and the Nokia N9 looks sweet - what a great interface, why the need to tie into WP7?

The N9 certainly does look sweet. If that phone had an Apple logo I thing we'd all be very excited. The interface looks cool, too. The first video (where the designer introduces the phone) looks like it was produced by Apple. The guy is a Finish and slightly less awkward version of Ive. The language is all Apple.

Why MS? indeed.
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post #42 of 65
9/29/11 at 12:51pm
Please correct to Komárom, Hungary.
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post #43 of 65
9/29/11 at 12:55pm
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Originally Posted by King of Beige View Post




Which is sexier? Nokia or iPhone?

LG logo behind them. :-)
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post #44 of 65
9/29/11 at 1:00pm
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Originally Posted by landilevente View Post

LG logo behind them. :-)

OK, you must either be a heterosexual woman, or a homosexual man........I didn't notice there was a "behind them"
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post #45 of 65
9/29/11 at 1:18pm
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Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post

Nokia's struggles to compete with Apple's iPhone and the Google Android platform continue to take their toll on the beleaguered Finnish handset maker, which announced on Wednesday that it is laying off 3,500 employees.

So basically, Apple just took away 3,500 jobs! I wonder how many jobs they created while causing 3,500 people to lose their job...
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post #46 of 65
9/29/11 at 1:24pm
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Originally Posted by PaulMJohnson View Post

It's kind of sad seeing them struggle so much. I'd like to see them come out with a really decent smart phone.

The best phone I ever had (when the goal was just a phone, not a smart phone) was a Nokia, 6280 I think. I was traveling internationally all the time, and it was the first phone I was given that would work in Korea and Japan as well as the rest of the world, and I loved it. It was such a benefit that it worked worldwide, but it was also really nicely built, and just a quality product.

I personally preferred the 8890! That was the BEST phone ever!
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post #47 of 65
9/29/11 at 1:26pm
Nokia still makes phones? I'll be damned!
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post #48 of 65
9/29/11 at 1:33pm
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Originally Posted by Fotoformat View Post

The one on the right definitely came from Silicone Valley!

Yep! SiliCONE valley!

...or do they use other materials for boob jobs nowadays?
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post #49 of 65
9/29/11 at 1:40pm
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Originally Posted by zeromeus View Post

Yep! SiliCONE valley!

...or do they use other materials for boob jobs nowadays?

Nope, it's still a silicone gel. The viscosity of the gel has changed over time to help reduce/prevent leakage should the outer skin break, but for the most part it's the same stuff.
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post #50 of 65
9/29/11 at 1:50pm
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Originally Posted by zeromeus View Post

So basically, Apple just took away 3,500 jobs! I wonder how many jobs they created while causing 3,500 people to lose their job...

Not at all. Apple created many thousands of jobs for people building iPhones, iPads, iPods, etc - as well as engineers, QA people, testers, and so on.

It's not up to Apple to keep OTHER company's employees working. That's up to the other company to do for themselves. If they're unable to make a competitive product, it's not Apple's fault.
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post #51 of 65
9/29/11 at 1:52pm
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

It's too bad because this really is a slick looking device.
http://swipe.nokia.com/ Is Nokia still turning a quarterly profit or have they fallen into the red?

Drool... Wow, that is one sexy looking phone. I totally like the way that phone looks! Too bad it's not available in the U.S.
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post #52 of 65
9/29/11 at 2:17pm
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Originally Posted by zeromeus View Post

So basically, Apple just took away 3,500 jobs! I wonder how many jobs they created while causing 3,500 people to lose their job...

Well, they are all in different countries so it is kind of irrelevant.

Samsung and HTC probably did not help Nokia a lot either.
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post #53 of 65
9/29/11 at 2:29pm
My goodness! This is the best AI thread ever!
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..... the greatest fame comes from adding to human knowledge, not winning battles.
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post #54 of 65
9/29/11 at 3:09pm
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Originally Posted by cvaldes1831 View Post

[...] Windows Phone and RIM's QNX will battle it out for third place over the next couple of years and frankly I think Windows Phone has the upper hand as they have buy-in from some handset manufacturers.

Agree. Not sure how much longer RIM can keep it up.

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post #55 of 65
9/29/11 at 3:40pm
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Originally Posted by zeromeus View Post

So basically, Apple just took away 3,500 jobs! I wonder how many jobs they created while causing 3,500 people to lose their job...

No they didn't. Nokia has too many staff, they have for years, while it is terrible they are losing their jobs, most of these people were providing no benefit to the company
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post #56 of 65
9/29/11 at 3:44pm
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Originally Posted by mcarling View Post

I think five years from now it will still be an iOS/Android battle with RIM dead and buried, an as yet unannounced OS in 3rd, and Microsoft in a distant 4th.

Naw. The trend is for Andorid to win, but I wouldn't count M$ out yet.

1. Android
2. Windows
3. ...
4. Apple
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post #57 of 65
9/29/11 at 3:47pm
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

It's too bad because this really is a slick looking device.
http://swipe.nokia.com/ Is Nokia still turning a quarterly profit or have they fallen into the red?

Where are the samsung fools? THAT is a phone influenced by the iPhone without being a copy....
OSX, because making UNIX user friendly is easier than debugging windows.
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OSX, because making UNIX user friendly is easier than debugging windows.
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post #58 of 65
9/29/11 at 3:49pm
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Originally Posted by ConradJoe View Post

Naw. The trend is for Andorid to win, but I wouldn't count M$ out yet.

1. Android
2. Windows
3. ...
4. Apple

That was funny. Thanks, I needed that laugh.
OSX, because making UNIX user friendly is easier than debugging windows.
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post #59 of 65
9/29/11 at 3:55pm
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Where are the samsung fools? THAT is a phone influenced by the iPhone without being a copy....

There was a troll yesterday claiming hypocrisy, of all things, because the "Apple fonboys" weren't calling the Kindle Fire a clone of the iPad.
Dick Applebaum on whether the iPad is a personal computer: "BTW, I am posting this from my iPad pc while sitting on the throne... personal enough for you?"
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Dick Applebaum on whether the iPad is a personal computer: "BTW, I am posting this from my iPad pc while sitting on the throne... personal enough for you?"
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post #60 of 65
9/29/11 at 7:50pm
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Originally Posted by mcarling View Post

You Can Put a Fork in Nokia. Game Over. No More Lives.

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That's really too bad for those affected.

It is disturbing and sad. Even more so when you then think they are now hopelessly dependent on Microsoft for their very survival.
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post #61 of 65
9/29/11 at 7:55pm
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Originally Posted by zeromeus View Post

Drool... Wow, that is one sexy looking phone. I totally like the way that phone looks! Too bad it's not available in the U.S.

Too bad it's an EOL product. \
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post #62 of 65
9/29/11 at 8:28pm
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Originally Posted by Maestro64 View Post

okay you missed the fact that they said they are going to focus their business on software.

They hired the Stephen Elop from M$ and next thing you know they do a deal with M$ and and now their focus is going to be software.

Is that because the Stephen Elop does not know how to deal with Hardware.

I said it before, hardware engineer can design hardware and write code if necessary but software engineer can only write code and usually have no clue about hardware. Hardware is is foreign concept to most software types.

Hmmm, sort of like Apotheker over at HP?

"We are seeing solid progress against our strategy,..." Yes, Elop, I think you got that right.
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post #63 of 65
9/29/11 at 8:57pm
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

There was a troll yesterday claiming hypocrisy, of all things, because the "Apple fonboys" weren't calling the Kindle Fire a clone of the iPad.

Yeah, but the people supporting Samsung haven't quite figured out that it's actually (easily) possible to have a rectangular device with a screen that doesn't look like an iPhone - as every manufacturer demonstrated before there was an iPhone to copy.
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post #64 of 65
9/29/11 at 9:40pm
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Originally Posted by zeromeus View Post

So basically, Apple just took away 3,500 jobs! I wonder how many jobs they created while causing 3,500 people to lose their job...

Actually if you want to be pedantic about it, it's the people who bought iPhones and/or android phones, who would otherwise have bought nokias that took away 3500 jobs.
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post #65 of 65
9/29/11 at 9:46pm
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Originally Posted by paxman View Post

The N9 certainly does look sweet. If that phone had an Apple logo I thing we'd all be very excited. The interface looks cool, too. The first video (where the designer introduces the phone) looks like it was produced by Apple. The guy is a Finish and slightly less awkward version of Ive. The language is all Apple.

Why MS? indeed.

Apart from the fact that WPx is a better platform than anything Nokia had it's because of the ecosystem.

In the connected post-PC centric world how a device interacts within a web of other cloud-connected devices will dictate its usefulness far more than how it behaves standalone.

Microsoft has the ecosystem and they have developer support. Nokia didn't.

Elop knew that Nokia was circling the drain. Inaction would have caused Nokia's slow but inevitable decline into insignificance. With his bold move to support WPx Elop has given Nokia a fighting chance.

Sure, it might completely bury them as well, but at least now they have a chance.

Meego and WebOS are dead for the same reason. Tizen will suffer the same fate.
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