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After passing on orders for the new Kindle Fire from Amazon, Foxconn Electronics is believed to have won the contract to produce the Internet retailer's rumored 10.1-inch tablet and could begin shipping the device from factories by the end of the year, according to a new report.

Taiwan industry publication DigiTimes reported on Friday that industry sources claim Amazon will continue its long-term relationship with Foxconn by outsourcing production of its 10.1-inch tablets to the manufacturer. Amazon has historically hired Foxconn to build its Kindle e-readers, but the retailer went with Quanta for its new Kindle Fire touchscreen tablet, set to ship on Nov. 15.

Unveiled on Wednesday, the 7-inch Fire sells for $199 and is a "souped-up version" of the Kindle that is meant for media consumption through Amazon's ecosystem. Amazon Prime members can enjoy movie and TV show streaming on the tablet and users can purchase apps via Amazon Appstore. The Fire runs an older version of Google's Android operating system with a "fresh and easy-to-use interface" painted over Android's "rough surfaces."

According to the report, sources said Foxconn "decided not to take" orders for the Fire because it had been busy producing Apple's iPad. That's consistent with rumors that emerged in June that said the success of the iPad could place production constraints on Amazon.

Amazon instead turned to Quanta, which had produced Research in Motion's PlayBook tablet earlier in the year. The Fire bears a strikingly close resemblance to the PlayBook.



AppleInsider reported on Monday that, according to analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, the Kindle Fire is a transitional device meant to 'test the waters' ahead of Amazon's true tablet efforts that have been pushed back to next year. The 10.1-inch tablet is reportedly codenamed "Coyote" and is expected to arrive in early 2012. Amazon is also said to be readying an 8.9-inch tablet with an "amazing form factor" for the second half of next year.

Initial response to the Fire has been mixed. Analyst Gene Munster of Piper Jaffray said the device is "not a true competitor, but more competitive than expected," while noting that Amazon is expected to lose about $50 per unit it sells. J.P. Morgan's Mark Moskowitz was unimpressed with the Fire, calling it "noise" and a stepping stone at best. Others, however, have hailed the device as an "iPad killer" that will undercut Apple's tablet on price.

Kuo estimates that Amazon will build 3 million Fires by the end of the year, but some industry watchers have expressed concerns that supply of the device will be tight this holiday season.

"When [Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos] quipped that people should get their pre-orders in quick, that wasn't just a sales pitch," Reuters reported Wedge Partners analyst Brian Blair as saying "That was him warning this will sell out."

Amazon will benefit from using older technology and more readily available 7-inch screens, but may have trouble expanding its production and distribution capabilities. Rival Apple has leveraged its sophisticated operations to give it "a competitive advantage over Amazon, which may find it difficult to produce more than a few million Kindle Fires for the holiday season," Munster said on Wednesday.

In addition to the Fire, Amazon unveiled a $79 low-end Kindle without a keyboard and a Kindle Touch with multi-touch capability. Both devices continue to use e-ink displays and will be sold alongside the previous model, which has been renamed the Kindle Keyboard.
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So would they call this the Kindle Fire, too, or choose some other name like Kindle Inferno?
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They sure didn't pass on several others 'fires' recently.

Anyway... Good for Amazon, as competition is always good, and the Amazon ecosystem is quite solid at this point.
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What is up with American companies outsourcing products to communist China?

Why cant they have production in the US?

That is unpatriotic.

The same goes for Apple as well.

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It is especially nice that they made the product without copying Apple. I can have respect for that!

I'm looking forward to more details on the device. If nothing else it should push Apple to do much better with iPad3. Unlike HP and others I do think Amazon will be successful with this product. Like Kindle they have no intention of competing directly with Apple. For customers though they might see it as a solid alternative.
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Baloney.

The horse and pony show did not last long enough. Most people caught up with the BS of a seven incher, so now they come out with scam 2.

The Asian boiler rooms are coming of age.
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So would they call this the Kindle Fire, too, or choose some other name like Kindle Inferno?

The 10 inch model will be called the Kindle Extinguisher.
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What is up with American companies outsourcing products to communist China?

Why cant they have production in the US?

That is unpatriotic.

The same goes for Apple as well.
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The 10 inch model will be called the Kindle Extinguisher.

That way Amazon can say mine is bigger than yours!
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That way Amazon can say mine is bigger than yours!

In that case they should call it The Truth!

(as in Nicholson - A Few Good Men...)
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So would they call this the Kindle Fire, too, or choose some other name like Kindle Inferno?

The Kindle 451
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Let me guess you want them to build it in the US from US sourced parts. To that I ask how much are you willing to pay for this device? Is a $1000 iPad (base model) in your price range? How long are you willing to wait for the factories to be set up and the patent free technology to be developed so the unit can be sold legally.

The number one problem is that there are far to many Democrats in office that don't understand business, economics or responsibility. They strive to create a Utopia, for themselves, built on the backs of American workers and the factories that employ them.

Beyond that this battle was lost many decades ago when most of the consumer electronics industry left the USA. Here we are talking TV and radios for the most part as computers hardly existed back then. The reality was that domestic manufactures could never compete, with many of the brands disappearing completely.

What would you prefer? Seriously would you rather have foreign owned companies develop and sell these products in the USA? Or would you rather see Apple go under because no body can afford their hardware?

The other problem is that so much of the underlying tech left the USA so long ago we no longer have the underlying technology base to produce the components required to build the devices. LCDs are just one example here.

I don't disagree that we need to rebuild our manufacturing base. The problem is with electronics it isn't as easy as it sounds as we no longer hold the required IP. You need to realize that the move to Asia happened in the early seventies, China us just a recent blip on the radar. Actually the use of the word move isn't accurate here as in some cases domestic business simply got whipped out.


Yeah well you can whine or cry in your milk all you want but that won't change anything. Rather you need to get involved in government and curtail waste which is a huge problem. You also need to blunt the liberal element that expects government to do everything for them. This country has been living on borrowed money for far to long wasting billions(trillions) on social programs that do nothing. You should have the expectation that every dollar spent by the government either go for defense of the nation or to programs and projects that have a net positive impact on the economy. If you aren't willing to be part of the solution you are the problem.

You are surely high.

"The number one problem is that there are far to many Democrats in office that don't understand business, economics or responsibility. They strive to create a Utopia, for themselves, built on the backs of American workers and the factories that employ them. "

Um excuse me but its republicans who want to do away with unions, minimum wage, health and safety regulations and government oversight so, as sane people see it, its the republicans who want to get rich on the backs of the workers in those factories.

"You also need to blunt the liberal element that expects government to do everything for them. This country has been living on borrowed money for far to long wasting billions(trillions) on social programs that do nothing"

I notice you don't mention the corporate welfare like billion dollar oil subsidies for oil corps that are making record profits, nor do you consider the bloated defense budget wasteful as we produce guns that shoot around corners and outfit the ENTIRE navy with laser beam guns.

I would think you live in a fantasy world, a house of cards built for you by numbskulls like Glenn Beck -but I know the truth is probably that you're just a liar who thinks they snow people into backing your sick, twisted far right movement to strip all that makes America America away. YOU go work in the sweatshops and make sure YOUR children have no proper education -leave the rest of us alone.
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Let me guess you want them to build it in the US from US sourced parts. To that I ask how much are you willing to pay for this device? Is a $1000 iPad (base model) in your price range? How long are you willing to wait for the factories to be set up and the patent free technology to be developed so the unit can be sold legally.

The number one problem is that there are far to many Democrats in office that don't understand business, economics or responsibility. They strive to create a Utopia, for themselves, built on the backs of American workers and the factories that employ them.

Beyond that this battle was lost many decades ago when most of the consumer electronics industry left the USA. Here we are talking TV and radios for the most part as computers hardly existed back then. The reality was that domestic manufactures could never compete, with many of the brands disappearing completely.

What would you prefer? Seriously would you rather have foreign owned companies develop and sell these products in the USA? Or would you rather see Apple go under because no body can afford their hardware?

The other problem is that so much of the underlying tech left the USA so long ago we no longer have the underlying technology base to produce the components required to build the devices. LCDs are just one example here.

I don't disagree that we need to rebuild our manufacturing base. The problem is with electronics it isn't as easy as it sounds as we no longer hold the required IP. You need to realize that the move to Asia happened in the early seventies, China us just a recent blip on the radar. Actually the use of the word move isn't accurate here as in some cases domestic business simply got whipped out.


Yeah well you can whine or cry in your milk all you want but that won't change anything. Rather you need to get involved in government and curtail waste which is a huge problem. You also need to blunt the liberal element that expects government to do everything for them. This country has been living on borrowed money for far to long wasting billions(trillions) on social programs that do nothing. You should have the expectation that every dollar spent by the government either go for defense of the nation or to programs and projects that have a net positive impact on the economy. If you aren't willing to be part of the solution you are the problem.

Slow of mind, ignorant of IP technology and of the actual available fabrication in the US amongst Republicans never ceases to amaze me.

Just in off of GlobalFoundries website:

IBM to lead $US4.4 billion chip investment in New York

Intel, GlobalFoundries, IBM, TSMC, Samsung create 450mm initiative in New York.

New research center in Albany could influence expansion in Luther Forest
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What is up with American companies outsourcing products to communist China?

Why cant they have production in the US?

That is unpatriotic.

The same goes for Apple as well.

Because you would not pay $600 for the fire?
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Slow of mind, ignorant of IP technology and of the actual available fabrication in the US amongst Republicans never ceases to amaze me.

Just in off of GlobalFoundries website:

IBM to lead $US4.4 billion chip investment in New York

Intel, GlobalFoundries, IBM, TSMC, Samsung create 450mm initiative in New York.

New research center in Albany could influence expansion in Luther Forest

What part of that did you read that made you think there was any large scale manufacturing (or in fact any thing other than development scale) going on? Lots of companies do R&D in the US.. Every company in that consortium manufactures in Asia.

$4.4 billion would not build any reasonable sized semiconductor manufacturing in this country. Next time you set out to insult someone, it might help to read and comprehend your sources. (Which were all just the same story anyway, so linking one of them would have been sufficient).

Correction the third story is not the same. Nor does it support your point. In fact it does quite the opposite. It is hometown cheerleading that maybe these R&D facilities would cause manufacturing to be built there. They also say the only place that makes sense is there or malta. Guess who will win when it comes time to spend real money? I bet you believe RIM makes all their phones in Canada too

Assembly of small devices is very labor intensive, it is not practical for anyone to do it in the US. Apple and Amazon do employ a lot of people in the US. China too I suppose, but then soon, Apple may have more customers in China...
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So would they call this the Kindle Fire, too, or choose some other name like Kindle Inferno?

Kindle bonfire.
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What is up with American companies outsourcing products to communist China?

Why cant they have production in the US?

That is unpatriotic.

The same goes for Apple as well.

It's called free market capitalism. You own many things made in communist China.
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It is especially nice that they made the product without copying Apple. I can have respect for that!

I'm looking forward to more details on the device. If nothing else it should push Apple to do much better with iPad3. Unlike HP and others I do think Amazon will be successful with this product. Like Kindle they have no intention of competing directly with Apple. For customers though they might see it as a solid alternative.

Totally agree, but, I'll have to use it to make a final call. It is half the size of the iPad after all, and from where I'm sitting that is not a good thing. A 7" tablet is not the kind of device I'd take with me anywhere really, and at home then it's too small to be really useful. I believe the reason Jobs called 7" tabs tweeners is because they tested and prototyped every size before making a decision. And the iPad was in R & D for years. It is worth mentioning anyone doing an app tablet is copying Apple on some level. Don't you remember? The iPad was meant to be just a big iPod touch and a huge failure.

You can rest assured every company doing a tablet now, including Amazon, is doing it because of Apple's influence over consumers, companies and the market.

Furthermore I think naming the fire a Kindle is a bit disingenuous, as this implies it's a book reader, when in reality reading a book on an LCD screen is just wrong. When they made the e-ink Kindle I thought they understood this. I own both a Kindle 3 and an iPad 2 and I can tell you, reading a book on e-ink is not just a supremely better experience, but the only experience worth considering. It's just a shame though that the actual Kinlde hardware (the K3 at least) absolutely sucks, the page buttons barely work, the display is too small for books, and the software is like nails down a blackboard.
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What is up with American companies outsourcing products to communist China?

Why cant they have production in the US?

That is unpatriotic.

The same goes for Apple as well.

There is not much communistic about China. In fact if communism is supposed to be by the workers for the workers, we are a helluvalot more communist than them:

Foxconn worker: $300 a month, no benefits and no unions to mess with you. Workday: 14-18 hours.
American worker: $3,000/mo total comp at the very minimum, paid vacations, overtime, daycare, holidays, unions, strikes, protests....tsk tsk tsk. Not to mention the product would cost 3x as much, therefore not competitive.

Patriotism is great, as long as it's free. Companies are not stupid. The only way I see this trend changing is if compensation in china increases to the point where they offset the cost of logistics.
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There is not much communistic about China. ...

There is nothing communist about China besides the word "Communist" in "Communist Party". The political system in China is much closer to fascism than communism.
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You are surely high.

"The number one problem is that there are far to many Democrats in office that don't understand business, economics or responsibility. They strive to create a Utopia, for themselves, built on the backs of American workers and the factories that employ them. "

Um excuse me but its republicans who want to do away with unions, minimum wage, health and safety regulations and government oversight so, as sane people see it, its the republicans who want to get rich on the backs of the workers in those factories.

"You also need to blunt the liberal element that expects government to do everything for them. This country has been living on borrowed money for far to long wasting billions(trillions) on social programs that do nothing"

I notice you don't mention the corporate welfare like billion dollar oil subsidies for oil corps that are making record profits, nor do you consider the bloated defense budget wasteful as we produce guns that shoot around corners and outfit the ENTIRE navy with laser beam guns.

I would think you live in a fantasy world, a house of cards built for you by numbskulls like Glenn Beck -but I know the truth is probably that you're just a liar who thinks they snow people into backing your sick, twisted far right movement to strip all that makes America America away. YOU go work in the sweatshops and make sure YOUR children have no proper education -leave the rest of us alone.

While I agree with you, I'd just put the moron on your ignore list, it's not worth wasting energy replying to such utter rubbish. Plus this is one of the few blogs that hasn't descended in to extremist political rhetoric. I for one would like to keep it that way and would prefer it if mods removed such posts as this guy's and warned the posters.
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+1

The moderators generally do a good job here of moving political posts to the appropriate section, but we can help by exercising a little restraint.

Yes I agree they must do a good job considering how little political hate gets on this blog, hats off to the mods for that.
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What is up with American companies outsourcing products to communist China?

Why cant they have production in the US?

That is unpatriotic.

The same goes for Apple as well.

Probably because you (and me) aren't willing to pay twice as much for our products.
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What is up with American companies outsourcing products to communist China?

China has changed a lot in the last 3 decades. On the surface, you would still call it communist. Underneath, it's no more communist.
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You are surely high.

"The number one problem is that there are far to many Democrats in office that don't understand business, economics or responsibility. They strive to create a Utopia, for themselves, built on the backs of American workers and the factories that employ them. "

Um excuse me but its republicans who want to do away with unions, minimum wage, health and safety regulations and government oversight so, as sane people see it, its the republicans who want to get rich on the backs of the workers in those factories.

"You also need to blunt the liberal element that expects government to do everything for them. This country has been living on borrowed money for far to long wasting billions(trillions) on social programs that do nothing"

I notice you don't mention the corporate welfare like billion dollar oil subsidies for oil corps that are making record profits, nor do you consider the bloated defense budget wasteful as we produce guns that shoot around corners and outfit the ENTIRE navy with laser beam guns.

I would think you live in a fantasy world, a house of cards built for you by numbskulls like Glenn Beck -but I know the truth is probably that you're just a liar who thinks they snow people into backing your sick, twisted far right movement to strip all that makes America America away. YOU go work in the sweatshops and make sure YOUR children have no proper education -leave the rest of us alone.

WOW! My BS meter just pegged.
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You are surely high.

"The number one problem is that there are far to many Democrats in office that don't understand business, economics or responsibility. They strive to create a Utopia, for themselves, built on the backs of American workers and the factories that employ them. "

Um excuse me but its republicans who want to do away with unions, minimum wage, health and safety regulations and government oversight so, as sane people see it, its the republicans who want to get rich on the backs of the workers in those factories.

"You also need to blunt the liberal element that expects government to do everything for them. This country has been living on borrowed money for far to long wasting billions(trillions) on social programs that do nothing"

I notice you don't mention the corporate welfare like billion dollar oil subsidies for oil corps that are making record profits, nor do you consider the bloated defense budget wasteful as we produce guns that shoot around corners and outfit the ENTIRE navy with laser beam guns.

I would think you live in a fantasy world, a house of cards built for you by numbskulls like Glenn Beck -but I know the truth is probably that you're just a liar who thinks they snow people into backing your sick, twisted far right movement to strip all that makes America America away. YOU go work in the sweatshops and make sure YOUR children have no proper education -leave the rest of us alone.




What is even more pathetic than his ignorance of facts is his inconsistency.

For example, as a matter of fact, the US is the largest manufacturing economy in the world. China is second, and growing fast, but nevertheless, we manufacture more stuff here than any other country in the entire world.

Not only that, but he blames Democrats, while also saying that we lost to asia in the early 70's - when Nixon was in power.

He is neither informed nor consistent.
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Assembly of small devices is very labor intensive, it is not practical for anyone to do it in the US.

Facts can be your friends or your enemy, depending on how you treat them...


Manufacturing Surprise: The U.S. Still Leads In Making Things

http://moneywatch.bnet.com/economic-...g-things/2134/


China manufacturing eases for 3rd month, prices up

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...78T12020110930
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Others, however, have hailed the device as an "iPad killer" that will undercut Apple's tablet on price.

Insanity (I don't need to rehash the definition here) - They all said no one would buy an iPod for $499. They all said no one would buy an iPhone for $499, and they all said no one would buy a iPad for $499. Yet at each step of the way, Apple always struggles to make enough product to keep up with demand, while knock-offs and also-rans flood the market. Where are they now? Zune was a joke on a sitcom last week. Even on the desktop and laptop, which today are still 2-4 times more expensive than the cheapest PCs, are selling better and better.

I think competition in the space is great. I think there's always room for improvement which competition encourages. But if it weren't for Apple and their ongoing innovation and large R&D budget, the also-rans wouldn't have a clue where to start, because they'd have no one to copy.
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What is even more pathetic than his ignorance of facts is his inconsistency.

For example, as a matter of fact, the US is the largest manufacturing economy in the world. China is second, and growing fast, but nevertheless, we manufacture more stuff here than any other country in the entire world.

Not only that, but he blames Democrats, while also saying that we lost to asia in the early 70's - when Nixon was in power.

He is neither informed nor consistent.

Sadly that is par for their course isn't it? It's what comes from single source information intake. I just think we should as regular members agree to ignore the political taunts from extremists here and simply report them as spam / inappropriate immediately.
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As others have stated, I hope the Kindle succeeds. I love my iPad, and have used various flavors of Android tablets with mixed results. For sheer reading enjoyment, the eInk Kindles and/or Nooks are a far better way for reading (IMHO). Let's see how the Fire does with its LCD screen -- the size is actually good for reading ... but reading books only. Trying to read magazines or do other table-centric tasks will prove to be a challenge - just like the Nook Color is ...
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There is nothing communist about China besides the word "Communist" in "Communist Party". The political system in China is much closer to fascism than communism.

In fact, it's an oligarchy of the members of the 'Communist' Party.
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The Kindle Blaze.
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There is nothing communist about China besides the word "Communist" in "Communist Party". The political system in China is much closer to fascism than communism.

So were pretty much all the communsit countries that ever existed. Ironically coimmunism when implemented, turns in to fascism quite rapidly.

Anyway, back to the topic, I like amazon, I shop there a lot, though I don't own a kindle....I'd be curious to see what they come up with, but I'm sure a 10 inch tablet that's not severely under-powered cannot be much cheaper than $499. Of course they will eat some costs so they can make it up with product sales, but if people really want to order stuff from amazon they can do it from other tablets or desktops. On the media/entertainment front.... Well maybe, but I like the fact I can store a bunch of movies to my iPad so I can watch them on long flights or commutes, but also I can AirPlay them to the ATV. We shall see
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After passing on orders for the new Kindle Fire from Amazon, Foxconn Electronics is believed to have won the contract to produce the Internet retailer's rumored 10.1-inch tablet and could begin shipping the device from factories by the end of the year, according to a new report.


Putting two and two together, it looks like Foxconn is borking Apple big time.

They failed in their attempt to move iPad production to Brazil. Given that production was to have hit store shelves soon, it is reasonable to assume that iPads will have a lower supply than otherwise. Otherwise, one would have to assume that they would be making more than Apple could sell, which is not the type of supply-chain management has made Apple legendary.

At the same time, they are going to make Amazon's direct competitor tablet which will come out soon. Where will it be built? Perhaps in the Chinese factory that used to produce iPads?

"According to DigiTimes, citing anonymous sources, the e-commerce giant is planning to tap Taiwan-based Foxconn Electronics to start producing its rumored 10.1-inch tablet. Foxconn is expected to start shipping the tablet before the end of the year to meet "holiday season demand," DigiTimes' sources say."

So Foxconn is shorting Apple on iPads, just before Christmas, and instead, making tablet for Amazon in time for Christmas.

I think we might soon want to add the FoxCommunists to our enemies list.

Amazon is the newest one, joining such companies as Microsoft, Adobe, Dell, Google, and Samsung. If the FoxcCommunists think they can make more money from Amazon then from Apple, then let them starve. Starve to death! Just like Adobe!

That is what happens when you piss off Steve. But some people never learn.
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Originally Posted by Galbi View Post

What is up with American companies outsourcing products to communist China?

Why cant they have production in the US?

That is unpatriotic.

The same goes for Apple as well.

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Originally Posted by sgreco View Post

You are surely high.

"The number one problem is that there are far to many Democrats in office that don't understand business, economics or responsibility. They strive to create a Utopia, for themselves, built on the backs of American workers and the factories that employ them. "

Um excuse me but its republicans who want to do away with unions, minimum wage, health and safety regulations and government oversight so, as sane people see it, its the republicans who want to get rich on the backs of the workers in those factories.

Which are some of the things that don't allow products to be built here anymore. Hello?

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"You also need to blunt the liberal element that expects government to do everything for them. This country has been living on borrowed money for far to long wasting billions(trillions) on social programs that do nothing"

I notice you don't mention the corporate welfare like billion dollar oil subsidies for oil corps that are making record profits, nor do you consider the bloated defense budget wasteful as we produce guns that shoot around corners and outfit the ENTIRE navy with laser beam guns.

So because he doesn't mention it, he supports it? What defense programs would you cut? You realize that it's one of the only things our government does that's actually constitutional?

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I would think you live in a fantasy world, a house of cards built for you by numbskulls like Glenn Beck -but I know the truth is probably that you're just a liar who thinks they snow people into backing your sick, twisted far right movement to strip all that makes America America away. YOU go work in the sweatshops and make sure YOUR children have no proper education -leave the rest of us alone.

That's a personal attack, and not allowed here. It's also rather uncalled for, because you don't know the person with which you're dealing. His points about manufacturing and many Democrats not understanding business are spot on. This party has demonstrated its ignorance time and time again in economic matters. We're seeing it again with a President who embraces class warfare. Democrats seem to always view economics as static. That is, they ignore the "what next?" question. Taxing a business more affects it's behavior. Soaking the rich causes them to try to hide more of their money. Limiting bank fees leads to new bank fees no one considered.. The basic truth here is that producers and earners are not just going to "sit back and pay." It's never worked that way, and it never will.
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Originally Posted by ConradJoe View Post

Putting two and two together, it looks like Foxconn is borking Apple big time.

They failed in their attempt to move iPad production to Brazil. Given that production was to have hit store shelves soon, it is reasonable to assume that iPads will have a lower supply than otherwise. Otherwise, one would have to assume that they would be making more than Apple could sell, which is not the type of supply-chain management has made Apple legendary.

At the same time, they are going to make Amazon's direct competitor tablet which will come out soon. Where will it be built? Perhaps in the Chinese factory that used to produce iPads?

"According to DigiTimes, citing anonymous sources, the e-commerce giant is planning to tap Taiwan-based Foxconn Electronics to start producing its rumored 10.1-inch tablet. Foxconn is expected to start shipping the tablet before the end of the year to meet "holiday season demand," DigiTimes' sources say."

So Foxconn is shorting Apple on iPads, just before Christmas, and instead, making tablet for Amazon in time for Christmas.

I think we might soon want to add the FoxCommunists to our enemies list.

Amazon is the newest one, joining such companies as Microsoft, Adobe, Dell, Google, and Samsung. If the FoxcCommunists think they can make more money from Amazon then from Apple, then let them starve. Starve to death! Just like Adobe!

That is what happens when you piss off Steve. But some people never learn.


Are you high? You sound like a very bitter man.
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