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Things are starting to spread. Protests are increasing and so are the number of arrests. The latest stunt by the police was to give them a route, a route that would leave the revolutionaries trapped in on the Brooklyn Bridge and therefore easy to arrest, all 700 of them-


"Hundreds of people protesting Wall Street abuses were penned in and arrested by police Saturday, two weeks into an ongoing demonstration that has become known on Twitter as #OccupyWallStreet.

Centered at Zuccotti Park since September 17, the gathering that began as a call to arms from anti-consumerist magazine AdBusters has shown no sign of a slowdown.

The movement aims to "express a feeling of mass injustice," according to the groups declaration for the occupation of New York City released Friday. The injustices include the foreclosure crisis, work place discrimination and student loan debt, among a list of others.

As HuffPost reported recently, the movement is less about specific policy demands and more about an expression of opposition to ever yawning economic inequality driven by Wall Street and its allies in Washington.

Calling themselves an American revolution, the protesters say they plan to stay in the park indefinitely.

Greg Basta, an official with New York Communities for Change, said that the organizers were encouraged by police on Saturday to march on the street area of the Brooklyn Bridge, instead of the walkway, then subsequently arrested them for marching in traffic.

Similar demonstrations started Saturday in Washington and Los Angeles."
~ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_989221.html
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Things are starting to spread. Protests are increasing and so are the number of arrests. The latest stunt by the police was to give them a route, a route that would leave the revolutionaries trapped in on the Brooklyn Bridge and therefore easy to arrest, all 700 of them-


"Hundreds of people protesting Wall Street abuses were penned in and arrested by police Saturday, two weeks into an ongoing demonstration that has become known on Twitter as #OccupyWallStreet.

Centered at Zuccotti Park since September 17, the gathering that began as a call to arms from anti-consumerist magazine AdBusters has shown no sign of a slowdown.

The movement aims to "express a feeling of mass injustice," according to the groups declaration for the occupation of New York City released Friday. The injustices include the foreclosure crisis, work place discrimination and student loan debt, among a list of others.

As HuffPost reported recently, the movement is less about specific policy demands and more about an expression of opposition to ever yawning economic inequality driven by Wall Street and its allies in Washington.

Calling themselves an American revolution, the protesters say they plan to stay in the park indefinitely.

Greg Basta, an official with New York Communities for Change, said that the organizers were encouraged by police on Saturday to march on the street area of the Brooklyn Bridge, instead of the walkway, then subsequently arrested them for marching in traffic.

Similar demonstrations started Saturday in Washington and Los Angeles."
~ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_989221.html

Hands, do you mean to imply this is a good thing? These people are loons. If the protests spread elsewhere, we'll turn into Greece. Of course, that seems to be what the far Left really wants....
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Hands, do you mean to imply this is a good thing? These people are loons. If the protests spread elsewhere, we'll turn into Greece. Of course, that seems to be what the far Left really wants....

Wall Street et al. packaged up risky mortgage loans and sold them on at a huge profit. Those left holding the bag were bailed out whilst their CEO's took whatever money they could get in bonuses. The result was a big slowdown in the economy and lost jobs. Many people found themselves with no home and a whopping debt.

The small guy hasn't been heard. If this changes that, I'm all for it.
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These people are a bunch of clueless loons. I saw a reporter interviewing some of them, and boy are they dumb!

They seem to be a mix of dirty communists, anarchists and other "anti-capitalist" morons, and they should go back home to whichever hole they crawled out of.

The NYPD doesn't mess around and I support pepper spraying them in the face, like what recently happened. I find those kind of videos to be most amusing. So, in the end, the protesters do serve a purpose, they are comic relief and provide a cheap means of entertainment. The second that they get out of hand, then I support using whatever means necessary against the goons, to make them know who's in charge.
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Hands, do you mean to imply this is a good thing? These people are loons. If the protests spread elsewhere, we'll turn into Greece. Of course, that seems to be what the far Left really wants....

No, they aren't "loons". Outside of the usual agents provocateurs that infiltrate any popular movement, these are, for the most part, regular people, like you or me. America is now controlled largely by a tiny group of elitists and 'banksters' who are above and beyond the law, on account of their massive wealth, privilege and influence. Our representation in government has been systematically hijacked by these corporate and banking interests.

Finally, people are waking up.... the penny has dropped. We have seen how socialist politics can get nasty, as happened in the old Soviet Union - it eventually broke down under its own corrupt, lumbering nature. Now we're seeing the inverse happening right here... capitalism taken to an extreme - oligarchy and plutocracy. Then there's the crime and corruption that happens by default when people can do what ever they like without the moderating influence of regulation and laws. Its all about the gnarlier side of human nature taking over... that's why civilized societies need laws, with police to enforce them, The financial world, on the other hand, has been devoid of these societal normalcies, especially for the past 30 or so years, and allowed to stomp roughshod over all of us.

People are sick of losing their homes to the big banks, who in turn are employing illegal practices and fraud in their foreclosure processes. People are sick of these Wall St. financial hoodlums, parasites and scammers who are creaming $trillions out of the system, and putting nothing back. This is not a left vs. right issue.. its the 1% of them, who seem to be at war against 99% of us.

For some strange reason, there are some who think that the banks and financial elites, alongside their endemic criminal practices and sociopathic m.o. are what America is all about. Its time these bozos are forced to abide by the laws of the land, as the rest of us are mandated to.

I support the occupy Wall St. movement, wholeheartedly.
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The title had "Koch" in it so I posted here; this will likely get its own thread...

Koch Brothers support the Tea Party.... and terrorism? (among other transgressions)


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They are not as well-organised as other movements but at least they are taking a decent stand and raising awareness. Yes, they can't stay there forever, that's why they are just saying they'll try to stay on as long as possible.

It's the first real big protest in the US that tries to target the financial system which is as inherently flawed as fossil fuels <-- yes, chew on that for a while. Note I'm not saying we should all stop using money and ban all fossil fuels. It's just time to recognise that these systems are inherently disadvantaged and flawed.

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These people are a bunch of clueless loons. I saw a reporter interviewing some of them, and boy are they dumb!

They seem to be a mix of dirty communists, anarchists and other "anti-capitalist" morons, and they should go back home to whichever hole they crawled out of.

The NYPD doesn't mess around and I support pepper spraying them in the face, like what recently happened. I find those kind of videos to be most amusing. So, in the end, the protesters do serve a purpose, they are comic relief and provide a cheap means of entertainment. The second that they get out of hand, then I support using whatever means necessary against the goons, to make them know who's in charge.
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Things are starting to spread. Protests are increasing and so are the number of arrests. The latest stunt by the police was to give them a route, a route that would leave the revolutionaries trapped in on the Brooklyn Bridge and therefore easy to arrest, all 700 of them-


"Hundreds of people protesting Wall Street abuses were penned in and arrested by police Saturday, two weeks into an ongoing demonstration that has become known on Twitter as #OccupyWallStreet.

Centered at Zuccotti Park since September 17, the gathering that began as a call to arms from anti-consumerist magazine AdBusters has shown no sign of a slowdown.

The movement aims to "express a feeling of mass injustice," according to the groups declaration for the occupation of New York City released Friday. The injustices include the foreclosure crisis, work place discrimination and student loan debt, among a list of others.

As HuffPost reported recently, the movement is less about specific policy demands and more about an expression of opposition to ever yawning economic inequality driven by Wall Street and its allies in Washington.

Calling themselves an American revolution, the protesters say they plan to stay in the park indefinitely.

Greg Basta, an official with New York Communities for Change, said that the organizers were encouraged by police on Saturday to march on the street area of the Brooklyn Bridge, instead of the walkway, then subsequently arrested them for marching in traffic.

Similar demonstrations started Saturday in Washington and Los Angeles."
~ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_989221.html

I think what they are doing is absolutely fantastic. I'm going to try to get in on one of the local satellite protests. It's also not surprising in the least that the right wing nutters immediately jumped in and started denigrating these folks.

 

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Many people found themselves with no home and a whopping debt.

The small guy hasn't been heard. If this changes that, I'm all for it.

This is the most hilarious statement I've read in months. Have you seriously never heard of bankruptcy? Many of the people who lost their homes either defaulted strategically, aka all their other debts were good and they had one badly flipped debt and so they gave it back, or they went totally high on the hog and just declared bankruptcy. Why in part are these protests targeting student loans, because you can't discharge it via bankruptcy.

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People are sick of losing their homes to the big banks, who in turn are employing illegal practices and fraud in their foreclosure processes. People are sick of these Wall St. financial hoodlums, parasites and scammers who are creaming $trillions out of the system, and putting nothing back. This is not a left vs. right issue.. its the 1% of them, who seem to be at war against 99% of us.

For some strange reason, there are some who think that the banks and financial elites, alongside their endemic criminal practices and sociopathic m.o. are what America is all about. Its time these bozos are forced to abide by the laws of the land, as the rest of us are mandated to.

I support the occupy Wall St. movement, wholeheartedly.

I've never had a problem with banks. I've never had a single issue, a bad deal, nothing. Of course I know how to read and I am fiscally conservative enough to not commit myself to fantasies even if they are willing to let me sign my name on the line. You talk about the law of the land and what the rest of us are mandated to do. The reality is most of us AREN'T mandated to follow the laws of the land. There are exceptions everywhere and they are costly and part of a leftist delusional fantasy of utopian socialism. When the utopia doesn't arrive rather than admit defeat, they print up a bunch of money, take on a bunch of debt and go for round two on the crazy train. Look at college admissions, look at hate crimes, look at any instance where an institution decides it must fight reality with select rules based on a person's race, sex and background.

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I think what they are doing is absolutely fantastic. I'm going to try to get in on one of the local satellite protests. It's also not surprising in the least that the right wing nutters immediately jumped in and started denigrating these folks.

I think you ought to BR. I think it is definitely your demo. Trust fund babies of the world UNITE!

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Things are starting to spread. Protests are increasing and so are the number of arrests. The latest stunt by the police was to give them a route, a route that would leave the revolutionaries trapped in on the Brooklyn Bridge and therefore easy to arrest, all 700 of them-


"Hundreds of people protesting Wall Street abuses were penned in and arrested by police Saturday, two weeks into an ongoing demonstration that has become known on Twitter as #OccupyWallStreet.

Centered at Zuccotti Park since September 17, the gathering that began as a call to arms from anti-consumerist magazine AdBusters has shown no sign of a slowdown.

The movement aims to "express a feeling of mass injustice," according to the groups declaration for the occupation of New York City released Friday. The injustices include the foreclosure crisis, work place discrimination and student loan debt, among a list of others.

As HuffPost reported recently, the movement is less about specific policy demands and more about an expression of opposition to ever yawning economic inequality driven by Wall Street and its allies in Washington.

Calling themselves an American revolution, the protesters say they plan to stay in the park indefinitely.

Greg Basta, an official with New York Communities for Change, said that the organizers were encouraged by police on Saturday to march on the street area of the Brooklyn Bridge, instead of the walkway, then subsequently arrested them for marching in traffic.

Similar demonstrations started Saturday in Washington and Los Angeles."
~ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_989221.html

I think these people who are protesting are right in what they are doing. Enough corruption what is going on Wall Street and the government.Freedom of speech that is what it is all about.Jobs Jobs that is what is needed!
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Wall Street et al. packaged up risky mortgage loans and sold them on at a huge profit. Those left holding the bag were bailed out whilst their CEO's took whatever money they could get in bonuses. The result was a big slowdown in the economy and lost jobs. Many people found themselves with no home and a whopping debt.

The small guy hasn't been heard. If this changes that, I'm all for it.

It's from infowars, but deal with it

Point being that the "little guy" screws himself by embracing class warfare. Protesting while eating your vegan bagel and organic coffee with soymilk isn't going to help.
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No, they aren't "loons". Outside of the usual agents provocateurs that infiltrate any popular movement, these are, for the most part, regular people, like you or me. America is now controlled largely by a tiny group of elitists and 'banksters' who are above and beyond the law, on account of their massive wealth, privilege and influence. Our representation in government has been systematically hijacked by these corporate and banking interests.

Finally, people are waking up.... the penny has dropped. We have seen how socialist politics can get nasty, as happened in the old Soviet Union - it eventually broke down under its own corrupt, lumbering nature. Now we're seeing the inverse happening right here... capitalism taken to an extreme - oligarchy and plutocracy. Then there's the crime and corruption that happens by default when people can do what ever they like without the moderating influence of regulation and laws. Its all about the gnarlier side of human nature taking over... that's why civilized societies need laws, with police to enforce them, The financial world, on the other hand, has been devoid of these societal normalcies, especially for the past 30 or so years, and allowed to stomp roughshod over all of us.

People are sick of losing their homes to the big banks, who in turn are employing illegal practices and fraud in their foreclosure processes. People are sick of these Wall St. financial hoodlums, parasites and scammers who are creaming $trillions out of the system, and putting nothing back. This is not a left vs. right issue.. its the 1% of them, who seem to be at war against 99% of us.

For some strange reason, there are some who think that the banks and financial elites, alongside their endemic criminal practices and sociopathic m.o. are what America is all about. Its time these bozos are forced to abide by the laws of the land, as the rest of us are mandated to.

I support the occupy Wall St. movement, wholeheartedly.

Of course you do. sammi, you fall into the same delusion that these people do. The problem is not "capitalism taken to extremes." The problem is corruption, crony capitalism and corporate welfare. These people are calling for MORE government involvement. They simply don't understand the problem, nor the fact that blaming Big Money won't make their lives any better.
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Most of the ignorant kids protesting voted for Obama. The youth vote was very important for Obama and it was a big factor in him winning. And now that they don't like what 'Hope and Change' brought them, they are whining about it like a bunch of crybabies.

I saw a few interviews from the protests and some of the dumbasses say that they are still going to vote for Obama.

To put it bluntly, they deserve whatever they get. Afterall, they contributed to the economic problems in this country. These ignorant kids are beyond stupid.
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It's from infowars, but deal with it

I saw that video yesterday.

The stupidity and ignorance on display is truly shocking.
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Protesting while eating your vegan bagel and organic coffee with soymilk isn't going to help.

That's not who the 99% are. Sure, there are those as you describe at the protest. They don't even come close to making up the majority. Wake up. Stop living in fantasyland.

 

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That's not who the 99% are. Sure, there are those as you describe at the protest. They don't even come close to making up the majority. Wake up. Stop living in fantasyland.

Yeah, because I meant that 100% seriously and literally. As for their sanity, I won't budge on that one. These are the same people as this loon. They are seeking not an end to corporate welfare and corruption, but the end of American capitalism as we know it.
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These people are a bunch of clueless loons. I saw a reporter interviewing some of them, and boy are they dumb!

They seem to be a mix of dirty communists, anarchists and other "anti-capitalist" morons, and they should go back home to whichever hole they crawled out of.

The NYPD doesn't mess around and I support pepper spraying them in the face, like what recently happened. I find those kind of videos to be most amusing. So, in the end, the protesters do serve a purpose, they are comic relief and provide a cheap means of entertainment. The second that they get out of hand, then I support using whatever means necessary against the goons, to make them know who's in charge.

If anyone here were to describe how they wanted to pepper spray Tea Partiers in the face, there would be uproar. The whining would be amazing.

If anyone here were to describe Tea Partiers as "loons" and "morons" the whining would be intolerable.

Ah, right wing hypocrisy. Selective morality. Bullshit. Revolting.
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Yeah, because I meant that 100% seriously and literally. As for their sanity, I won't budge on that one. These are the same people as this loon. They are seeking not an end to corporate welfare and corruption, but the end of American capitalism as we know it.

American capitalism as we know it actually is pretty fucking terrible. Operative phrase: "as we know it."

 

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If anyone here were to describe how they wanted to pepper spray Tea Partiers in the face, there would be uproar. The whining would be amazing.

If anyone here were to describe Tea Partiers as "loons" and "morons" the whining would be intolerable.

Ah, right wing hypocrisy. Selective morality. Bullshit. Revolting.

Yup. And they continue to vote against their own interests.

 

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American capitalism as we know it actually is pretty fucking terrible. Operative phrase: "as we know it."

I disagree with that completely, unless you're referring to the government's utter stifling of innovation and free markets. Somehow I doubt it.
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If anyone here were to describe how they wanted to pepper spray Tea Partiers in the face, there would be uproar. The whining would be amazing.

If anyone here were to describe Tea Partiers as "loons" and "morons" the whining would be intolerable.

Ah, right wing hypocrisy. Selective morality. Bullshit. Revolting.

Right, because no one ever calls the Tea Party moronic, or racist. And they compare so well with these crazies on Wall Street.
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Yup. And they continue to vote against their own interests.



They continue to vote for people that represent their view of limited government and maximum personal freedom/responsibility. On the flip side:
  • Africian Americans and the poor continue to vote for the party that keeps them down.
  • Jews continue to vote for the party that hangs Israel out to dry
  • Young voters continue to vote for the party that is killing jobs
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Yeah, because I meant that 100% seriously and literally. As for their sanity, I won't budge on that one. These are the same people as this loon. They are seeking not an end to corporate welfare and corruption, but the end of American capitalism as we know it.

I see.

The Tea Partiers, on the other hand, are 100% sane?

God forbid anyone should suggest that they're not.

Is there, do you think, some middle ground, some tiny legitimate grievance that the 99% movement might have?

No, of course not. THEY ARE ALL STUPID, ALL OF THEM, and it's fine to say that. Because now it's perfectly fine to make brutal blanket statements about people you disagree with.
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Right, because no one ever calls the Tea Party moronic, or racist. And they compare so well with these crazies on Wall Street.

Yes, they do.

And when they do, you people whine like jet engines.

And now things are reversed, you can say disgusting things like you want to see people pepper sprayed.

I have all day. Until you understand my argument, I'll stick around repeating myself. Until you get it.
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I disagree with that completely, unless you're referring to the government's utter stifling of innovation and free markets. Somehow I doubt it.

Which is why you're on the wrong side.

Because the banks have shafted you. You're defending the banks? You're defending a distribution of wealth which now puts you closer to Brazil and South Africa than you were even in the '70s?

You're on the wrong side.
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They continue to vote for people that represent their view of limited government and maximum personal freedom/responsibility.[/LIST]

Ah, so your party promotes the end of drug and prostitution prohibition? They want to significantly shrink the military-industrial complex?

Yeah, bullshit. The idea that they want maximum personal freedom is a load of shit. Maximum personal responsibility is just a nice way to say, "fuck it, I don't care if you die." Bunch of heartless hypocritical assholes.

 

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Ah, so your party promotes the end of drug and prostitution prohibition? They want to significantly shrink the military-industrial complex?

Yeah, bullshit. The idea that they want maximum personal freedom is a load of shit. Maximum personal responsibility is just a nice way to say, "fuck it, I don't care if you die." Bunch of heartless hypocritical assholes.

Jesus, Jerrry Brown has to actually stop the fucking Republicans in California from pushing a law banning circumcision. Yeah, they want limited government. Riiiight.
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Jesus, Jerrry Brown has to actually stop the fucking Republicans in California from pushing a law banning circumcision. Yeah, they want limited government. Riiiight.

What the hell are you babbling about? The Bay area has been trying to ban this for years?

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What the hell are you babbling about? The Bay area has been trying to ban this for years?

Who in the bay area? The Liberal hippies?
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Who in the bay area? The Liberal hippies?

You can assign whatever epitaphs to them that allows your brain to deal with the information. The point is that it isn't San Francisco full of Republicans that is attempting the ban.

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"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Gandhi

We are on our way.

 

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Jesus, Jerrry Brown has to actually stop the fucking Republicans in California from pushing a law banning circumcision. Yeah, they want limited government. Riiiight.

Unless this is something new the ban of Circumcision is not exactly a conservative position. Where are you getting the idea that this a Repiblican position?

However it is California and things are usually weirder there than here in Oregon.
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I see.

The Tea Partiers, on the other hand, are 100% sane?

For the most part, yes. I don't agree with them on everything, but they have solid policy positions rooted in the Constitution. Obviously there are going to be a few wackadoos in any movement, of course.

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God forbid anyone should suggest that they're not.

The media seems to have no problem saying they're not. They are portrayed as racist, extreme, etc.

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Is there, do you think, some middle ground, some tiny legitimate grievance that the 99% movement might have?

Which movement?



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No, of course not. THEY ARE ALL STUPID, ALL OF THEM, and it's fine to say that. Because now it's perfectly fine to make brutal blanket statements about people you disagree with.

Yeah...so I label one group lunatics, and that means I label all groups No one is crazy..they just have different views. Right?
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For the most part, yes. I don't agree with them on everything, but they have solid policy positions rooted in the Constitution. Obviously there are going to be a few wackadoos in any movement, of course.

The media seems to have no problem saying they're not. They are portrayed as racist, extreme, etc.

Which movement?

Yeah...so I label one group lunatics, and that means I label all groups No one is crazy..they just have different views. Right?

Yeah, yeah.

You whine your face off whenever anyone dares to suggest that the Teaparty might have racist elements, or some of them might be a bit stupid, but you reserve the right to say whatever you like about people you disagree with.

You get all moral defending people on your side, but have the most disgusting contempt for the other team. Then it's perfectly all right to say what you want.

Hypocrisy. Good luck finding some moral courage one day, SDW2001.
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It is better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.

Words that come to mind nearly every time I read one of your posts.
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Words that come to mind nearly every time I read one of your posts.

Waiting for the "I know you are but what am I?" quips. Yay...
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Words that come to mind nearly every time I read one of your posts.

Answer this question. How foolish is it for someone to protest on wall street over their unhappiness with their government backed student loan for their over priced ivy league education. Or a NYC lawyer to protest because he doesn't make enough money.

Cry me a river.
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Ah, so your party promotes the end of drug and prostitution prohibition? They want to significantly shrink the military-industrial complex?

First, it's not "my party." I'm not really a Tea Partier, though I like some of their agenda. Secondly, yes...some do want to shrink the MIC. This is why so many Tea Party-types and libertarians support someone like Ron Paul. Many disagree, however, that the MIC is what's limiting their freedom, which is why they are not calling for it to be shrunk.

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Yeah, bullshit. The idea that they want maximum personal freedom is a load of shit. Maximum personal responsibility is just a nice way to say, "fuck it, I don't care if you die." Bunch of heartless hypocritical assholes.

That is simply not true. It's merely your caricature of what Tea Party folks and conservatives/libertarians are.
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