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post #201 of 597
10/18/11 at 3:11pm
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It WILL continue to grow in the US, and it WILL affect the election in 2012.

This is the only reason OWS exists. The left needs to find a counterweight to the Tea Party to have a chance next year.

Most of the dimwits in the crowd have no idea they are simply being used for partisan purposes.

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I had my Mac stolen -- that was like $5,500..."

Just out of curiosity, which Mac is worth $5,500? Did she take a 12-core Westmere Mac Pro to the Park?
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post #202 of 597
10/18/11 at 4:31pm
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Just out of curiosity, which Mac is worth $5,500? Did she take a 12-core Westmere Mac Pro to the Park?

She was talking about what she will claim on the insurance so she can continue to occupy the park for a couple more months. If I were there I would have slept on her bad back bed claiming greater need. I'm profoundly tempted to go to one of these and hoist people upon their own petards. Hypocrisy is hilarious to me.

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post #203 of 597
10/18/11 at 4:50pm
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She was talking about what she will claim on the insurance so she can continue to occupy the park for a couple more months. If I were there I would have slept on her bad back bed claiming greater need. I'm profoundly tempted to go to one of these and hoist people upon their own petards. Hypocrisy is hilarious to me.

Yeah, it's hilarious when people are victimized and suffering, especially when you don't like them.
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10/18/11 at 5:05pm
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Yeah, it's hilarious when people are victimized and suffering, especially when you don't like them.

I have no problems with bad people suffering. Why should I?
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post #205 of 597
10/18/11 at 7:48pm
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Just out of curiosity, which Mac is worth $5,500? Did she take a 12-core Westmere Mac Pro to the Park?

Perhaps the value of the software on the laptop is included?
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post #206 of 597
10/18/11 at 8:45pm
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Yeah, it's hilarious when people are victimized and suffering, especially when you don't like them.

Their are victimized and suffering due to their own decisions about their own worldview. She took what she claims is a $5,500 laptop and left it lying in the open in the middle of park. She trusted in the intrinsically good nature of her fellow humans and they proved her wrong. They left $2,500 out and it disappeared too.

Go leave your iPod in your unlocked car with the windows down in a parking lot. Trust in the cosmos and positive karma to protect it. Be disappointed when it doesn't work but those of us who knew it wouldn't work don't have to like or dislike you. it is just properly judging the world and human nature.

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post #207 of 597
10/18/11 at 8:48pm
Its not about "liberal vs conservative", "left vs right", and all the superficial partisan drivel thats bandied around by the establishment to divide us. It's about the big banks, the disappearing middle class and the astronomically wide disparity between rich and poor. If you look at what the banks have done, liberals see it as corporate power run amock while conservatives see it as ‘big government’ robbing them with taxes and giving their money to the biggest welfare recipients ever, i.e. the banks.

In any case, its the same grievance. Liberals and conservatives have some agreement with this issue, if they can get beyond the partisan BS.
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post #208 of 597
10/18/11 at 8:50pm
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I have no problems with bad people suffering. Why should I?

First of all, it's your own personal judgment that they are bad. Secondly, there are degrees of bad. Third, we are all bad in some way. Fourth, your attitude is called having a lack of morals, which we all agree compassion and forgiveness are big aspects of.
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10/18/11 at 8:53pm
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Their are victimized and suffering due to their own decisions about their own worldview. She took what she claims is a $5,500 laptop and left it lying in the open in the middle of park. She trusted in the intrinsically good nature of her fellow humans and they proved her wrong. They left $2,500 out and it disappeared too.

Go leave your iPod in your unlocked car with the windows down in a parking lot. Trust in the cosmos and positive karma to protect it. Be disappointed when it doesn't work but those of us who knew it wouldn't work don't have to like or dislike you. it is just properly judging the world and human nature.

However you spin it, you're taking pleasure in others' misfortune. That's all that needs to be said about your sense of morals.
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10/18/11 at 10:13pm
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First of all, it's your own personal judgment that they are bad. Secondly, there are degrees of bad. Third, we are all bad in some way. Fourth, your attitude is called having a lack of morals, which we all agree compassion and forgiveness are big aspects of.

I don't have any lack of morals. I have very high morals. My morals are just not the same as the morals of a liberal for example. And I am certainly glad for that.

I also see compassion and forgiveness as being flaws in certain instances. It all depends on the situation. It is better to be wise and unforgiving than to be naive and compassionate.
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post #211 of 597
10/18/11 at 11:50pm
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I don't have any lack of morals. I have very high morals. My morals are just not the same as the morals of a liberal for example. And I am certainly glad for that.

I also see compassion and forgiveness as being flaws in certain instances. It all depends on the situation. It is better to be wise and unforgiving than to be naive and compassionate.

I could never, ever see any circumstances where compassion is a flaw.

Maybe when you get a little older, and you find yourself in need of compassion yourself, you'll understand better.

For now I consider myself very, very fortunate I don't share your morals. I have no doubt that when you leave home, maybe get to university or whatever, you'll change your mind on a lot of things.
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10/19/11 at 12:42am
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This is the only reason OWS exists. The left needs to find a counterweight to the Tea Party to have a chance next year.

Most of the dimwits in the crowd have no idea they are simply being used for partisan purposes.

Kindly explain why there are occupations in London, Tokyo, Toronto, France, Rome and Madrid, where the occupations started? And a dozen other cities outside of the United States?

Are they all a 'counterweight' for this right wing American Tea Party, too?

No they're not. Please think. There's popular outrage against the banks and economic inequality.

No one outside of America gives a fuck about the Tea Party. The Tea Party exists to whine about tax and Obama.

The Occupy movements are popular and global.
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post #213 of 597
10/19/11 at 1:04am
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If I'm buying gas down to there, you're buying the first round regardless.

I forgot to mention, if you've fallen on hard times, I'm sorry to hear it. How far from the City are you? It won't break my budget to drive up to Carlsbad or out to Mission Valley or something.
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10/19/11 at 4:43am
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However you spin it, you're taking pleasure in others' misfortune. That's all that needs to be said about your sense of morals.

Most of the time it is hardly pleasure. Think of it more like a comic who sees the kernel of truth and tries to laugh for a bit in order not to be depressed. You think being able to see the road ahead always makes you a happy person? Not quite. Sometimes ignorance is bliss when it comes to happiness.

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I could never, ever see any circumstances where compassion is a flaw.

Maybe when you get a little older, and you find yourself in need of compassion yourself, you'll understand better.

For now I consider myself very, very fortunate I don't share your morals. I have no doubt that when you leave home, maybe get to university or whatever, you'll change your mind on a lot of things.

I could easily see circumstances where I don't care to have compassion for someone and you don't live up to your own platitude nor do you even practice it.

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Kindly explain why there are occupations in London, Tokyo, Toronto, France, Rome and Madrid, where the occupations started? And a dozen other cities outside of the United States?

Are they all a 'counterweight' for this right wing American Tea Party, too?

No they're not. Please think. There's popular outrage against the banks and economic inequality.

No one outside of America gives a fuck about the Tea Party. The Tea Party exists to whine about tax and Obama.

The Occupy movements are popular and global.

There are protests there because they are all broke welfare states as well who can no longer afford to give their dependent classes a lifetime of free goodies.

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I forgot to mention, if you've fallen on hard times, I'm sorry to hear it. How far from the City are you? It won't break my budget to drive up to Carlsbad or out to Mission Valley or something.

I have no idea where you got your wires cross but I've not indicated any sort of hard times. Being a pretty decent economic prognosticator has it's advantages.

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10/19/11 at 5:45am
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I could easily see circumstances where I don't care to have compassion for someone.

That's why you're a conservative and I'm not. And I'm very, very pleased and proud of that.

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There are protests there because they are all broke welfare states as well who can no longer afford to give their dependent classes a lifetime of free goodies.

OK.

In America, no one has a problem with the banks— the demonstrators are just a counterweight to the Tea Party.

In every other developed country in the world, no one has a problem with the banks—they’re just demonstrating because they live in broke welfare states.

No one, anywhere, has a problem with the banks.

Is there anything you won’t write to defend the status quo?
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post #216 of 597
10/19/11 at 5:55am
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That's why you're a conservative and I'm not. And I'm very, very pleased and proud of that.



OK.

In America, no one has a problem with the banks the demonstrators are just a counterweight to the Tea Party.

In every other developed country in the world, no one has a problem with the bankstheyre just demonstrating because they live in broke welfare states.

No one, anywhere, has a problem with the banks.

Is there anything you wont write to defend the status quo?

MJ, is there a reason why every country, be it right or left, socialist, heartless capitalist, or even communist has recapitalized their banks when financial problems have occurred?

Understand I say this as someone who hates crony-capitalism and as someone who thought TARP should not have occurred but it can't be a damn 1% greedy conservative rich person theory if everyone is doing it.

A new set of demands from OWS.....

I can agree with a few of them. I of course disagree with many of them.

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10/19/11 at 6:42am
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That's why you're a conservative and I'm not. And I'm very, very pleased and proud of that.

A-fucking-men.

 

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post #218 of 597
10/19/11 at 11:34am
Originally Posted by tonton
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It WILL continue to grow in the US, and it WILL affect the election in 2012.

Yeah, these people seem like voters to me.
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post #219 of 597
10/19/11 at 11:37am
An interesting account of the OWS protests (with pictures!):

http://www.theburningplatform.com/?p=23205

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10/19/11 at 11:43am
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Kindly explain why there are occupations in London, Tokyo, Toronto, France, Rome and Madrid, where the occupations started? And a dozen other cities outside of the United States?

Because leftists will take advantage of clueless people regardless of which country they are in.

Here in Toronto, there are numerous signs condemning the 'bank bailouts'.
This would be fine, except that we did not bailout our banks in Canada. Ignorance is bliss to these people.

We did bailout our auto sector, and it is ironic that the big unions which begged for that are supportive of these protests.
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post #221 of 597
10/19/11 at 3:12pm
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Because leftists will take advantage of clueless people regardless of which country they are in.

Yes, we've established now that the Tea Party people in the USA are all principled dissenters, but all these many many thousands of people protesting in every western capital have just been misled. Because no one anywhere has a legitimate grievance with corruption, austerity, inequality, unemployment and the influence of corporations.

You have no idea how absurd you sound.
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10/19/11 at 3:24pm
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Yes, we've established now that the Tea Party people in the USA are all principled dissenters, but all these many many thousands of people protesting in every western capital have just been misled. Because no one anywhere has a legitimate grievance with corruption, austerity, inequality, unemployment and the influence of corporations.

You have no idea how absurd you sound.

The Tea Party centred their complaints around balancing government budgets, opposition to higher taxes and reduction of the national debt.
Whether you agree or not, those are actionable items.

On the other hand, OWS is centred around the idea that the "99%" should impose some kind of solution over the wealthiest 1%, which is vague at best, and mob rule over a minority at worst.

This is, of course, when they can agree on why they are protesting. Which isn't very often.

If they are protesting bailouts, they should have joined the fight three years ago. If they are protesting corruption, they should check Obama's stimulus bill. Austerity is going to be a fact of life from this point on, because no government has any money left.

And if these clowns can't get jobs under capitalism, wait till they see what the job market's like under the alternative.
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post #223 of 597
10/19/11 at 3:50pm
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On the other hand, OWS is centred around the idea that the "99%" should impose some kind of solution over the wealthiest 1%, which is vague at best, and mob rule over a minority at worst.

Exactly. The unalienable rights referred to in our founding documents are not applicable only to certain groups of people under certain circumstances.

They are applicable to all, even the so-called "1%".

The minute you infringe upon the rights of ANY minority, you infringe upon the rights of all.

"The whole of the Bill (of Rights) is a declaration of the right of the people at large or considered as individuals .... It establishes some rights of the individual as unalienable and which consequently, no majority has a right to deprive them of." -- Albert Gallatin, New York Historical Society, October 7, 1789

"The majority, oppressing an individual, is guilty of a crime, abuses its strength, and by acting on the law of the strongest breaks up the foundations of society." -- Thomas Jefferson

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10/19/11 at 8:39pm
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Yes, we've established now that the Tea Party people in the USA are all principled dissenters, but all these many many thousands of people protesting in every western capital have just been misled. Because no one anywhere has a legitimate grievance with corruption, austerity, inequality, unemployment and the influence of corporations.

You have no idea how absurd you sound.

Seriously. And just look at the difference between the protesters and how the police are handling things:

 

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10/19/11 at 9:21pm
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Seriously. And just look at the difference between the protesters and how the police are handling things:

Picture to the left: Peaceful family setting. People sitting around and relaxing in what appears to be a pleasant environment and atmosphere. Nobody is breaking any laws or committing illegal acts, including the people with the guns, because I'm assuming that wherever that picture is from, it's legal to carry there. I see no trash lying around on the ground and overall, this seems to be quite a peaceful rally.

Picture to the right: I see some retard being hauled off by the NYPD. He no doubt broke some law or was defying the police. Unlike the peaceful and legal rally in the first picture, the retard in the second picture belongs to a group that is violating multiple laws. They're loud, they're obnoxious, they're ignorant, they're probably smelly, and their goal is to cause trouble. These leftist morons and anarchist losers should be dealt with like the trash that they are, and that's precisely how the police seem to be handling it.
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10/19/11 at 9:34pm
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Uh huh. Watch what happens if a peaceful protester legally brings a gun to an #occupytogether location.

 

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10/19/11 at 9:56pm
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Seriously. And just look at the difference between the protesters and how the police are handling things:


Please explain the difference from the picture. Besides one set sitting on a bench with a gun and the other being carried off by police. what is the difference? Can you actually tell me? Why is the guy being carried off? Are they breaking the law by having guns? The picture is a strawman of the first rank. There is absolutely no context and makes the simplistic assumption that armed is bad and unarmed is good.
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10/19/11 at 9:58pm
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Uh huh. Watch what happens if a peaceful protester legally brings a gun to an #occupytogether location.

Well, let's see. If he does not break the law or use his weapon in violence I am betting nothing happens. Close?
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10/20/11 at 12:50am
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Well, let's see. If he does not break the law or use his weapon in violence I am betting nothing happens. Close?

With the police attacking protesters who literally were doing nothing wrong left and right all across the country...yeah, I fucking doubt that nothing would happen. In Denver, with 30 degree weather, the cops suddenly left their posts on the sidewalk adjacent to the park and walked across the street. Sprinklers come on, soaking the protesters who already didn't have blankets, tarps, or tents (police already stole those). The city claims it was on a timer and it was a mistake that they went off. Seems like that's obviously bullshit as all the cops quickly vacated moments before the sprinklers turned on. So yeah...those protesters were given the choice of risking hypothermia if they wanted to stay and legally exercise their first amendment rights.

Or let's look at the actions of Tony Bologna in New York City...viciously and gratuitously pepper spraying at point blank innocent young women who were peacefully complying with the police's outrageous orders. He should be arrested for assault and battery but all he got was a slap in the wrist in the form of losing 10 vacation days (this after the city first condoned the action to the outrage of the citizenry).

Get a fucking clue, Noah. These protesters have been treated like SHIT. They start coming with guns? Surely some will die.

 

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10/20/11 at 4:42am
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This is the only reason OWS exists. The left needs to find a counterweight to the Tea Party to have a chance next year.

Most of the dimwits in the crowd have no idea they are simply being used for partisan purposes.



Just out of curiosity, which Mac is worth $5,500? Did she take a 12-core Westmere Mac Pro to the Park?

I cannot believe a Mac is worth over 5 grand and who in their right mind takes it to a park especially in NYC.
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10/20/11 at 6:13am
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Seriously. And just look at the difference between the protesters and how the police are handling things:


Remember when the Tea Party tried to occupy the Brooklyn Bridge? Remember when they tried to break in the legislature and either force votes or stop votes on certain matters?

Oh wait I don't remember that either. What you pictures show is how the police are used to counter the authoritarianism of the left. They can't just use the process. They have to force things. They have to infringe on others.

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10/20/11 at 9:08am
Anyone else asked themselve why when it is greedy Wall St. that is causing all our problems, that Wall St. is in a Democratic Blue State with a Democratic Governor, Democratically controlled legislature and that almost all the Senators and federal representatives they send to our Federal Government are Democrats?

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10/20/11 at 1:44pm
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With the police attacking protesters who literally were doing nothing wrong left and right all across the country...yeah, I fucking doubt that nothing would happen. In Denver, with 30 degree weather, the cops suddenly left their posts on the sidewalk adjacent to the park and walked across the street. Sprinklers come on, soaking the protesters who already didn't have blankets, tarps, or tents (police already stole those). The city claims it was on a timer and it was a mistake that they went off. Seems like that's obviously bullshit as all the cops quickly vacated moments before the sprinklers turned on. So yeah...those protesters were given the choice of risking hypothermia if they wanted to stay and legally exercise their first amendment rights.

Or let's look at the actions of Tony Bologna in New York City...viciously and gratuitously pepper spraying at point blank innocent young women who were peacefully complying with the police's outrageous orders. He should be arrested for assault and battery but all he got was a slap in the wrist in the form of losing 10 vacation days (this after the city first condoned the action to the outrage of the citizenry).

Get a fucking clue, Noah. These protesters have been treated like SHIT. They start coming with guns? Surely some will die.

If I were to post this what would be your 2 word response? Citation needed.
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10/20/11 at 4:09pm
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Sprinklers: Eyewitness accounts in first link and news coverage in second.

http://www.reddit.com/r/occupywallst...testors_in_30/
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_19148341

Tony Bologna:

http://www.businessinsider.com/tony-...ay-cop-2011-10

So yes, get a fucking clue. Protesters bring guns? It'll be a massacre.

 

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10/20/11 at 5:13pm
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Sprinklers: Eyewitness accounts in first link and news coverage in second.

http://www.reddit.com/r/occupywallst...testors_in_30/
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_19148341

Tony Bologna:

http://www.businessinsider.com/tony-...ay-cop-2011-10

So yes, get a fucking clue. Protesters bring guns? It'll be a massacre.

Trying to muster outrage over people sleeping on a lawn getting doused with sprinklers.......

GaAAAAH....sorry. I tried and couldn't.

The pepper spray bit shows the guys was docked two weeks pay. I'm sure that's more than any off the asshats who will be arrested or cause problems with these protests will be fined so again, no outrage.

Are you BR, trying to suggest that $6,000 isn't a large enough fine for the use of the pepper spray?

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10/20/11 at 5:19pm
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Your taxpayer dollars at work: Undercover cop acts as agent provocateur when OWS folks march to close their Citibank accounts. Did we have agent provocateurs infiltrating the tea party rallies to cause stirs and provoke arrests? I don't think so. This is also not the only report of undercover cops causing problems at the #occupytogether locations.

 

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post #237 of 597
10/20/11 at 6:12pm
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Your taxpayer dollars at work: Undercover cop acts as agent provocateur when OWS folks march to close their Citibank accounts. Did we have agent provocateurs infiltrating the tea party rallies to cause stirs and provoke arrests? I don't think so. This is also not the only report of undercover cops causing problems at the #occupytogether locations.

Again, did the Tea Party decide as part of their protest they and to infiltrate and occupy a private bank during business hours? You keep trying to draw an equivalence when one side isn't sleeping in a private park for weeks on end, stopping traffic on bridges and charging into private businesses to stop them from doing business.

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post #238 of 597
10/20/11 at 6:26pm
Following the link provided shows that OWS groups were involved in planning demonstrations against the NYPD itself. It's well known that drug use, unlawful occupation and theft have been part and parcel of this 'protest'.

If you're saying OWS is anything like the Tea Party rallies, you are either badly uninformed or simply lying.
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post #239 of 597
10/21/11 at 1:55am
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Teddy Roosevelt knew what's up.


"Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people. To destroy this invisible government, to befoul the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of the day.”

— Theodore Roosevelt, April 19, 1906

 

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post #240 of 597
10/23/11 at 6:49pm
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Occupy Wall Streets Finance Committee has nearly $500,000 in the bank, and donations continue to pour in -- but its reluctance to share the wealth with other protesters is fraying tempers.

Some drummers incensed they got no money to replace or safeguard their drums after a midnight vandal destroyed their instruments Wednesday are threatening to splinter off.

Fk Finance. I hope Mayor Bloomberg gets an injunction and demands to see the movements books. We need to know how much money we really have and where its going, said a frustrated Bryan Smith, 45, who joined OWS in Lower Manhattan nearly three weeks ago from Los Angeles, where he works in TV production.

I stay in a park filled with my fellow utopians and there's a problem. I need protection from them. These nice private items keep getting stolen or destroyed.

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The other day, I took in $2,000. I kept $650 for my group, and gave the rest to Finance. Then I went to them with a request -- so many people need things, and they should not be going without basic comfort items -- and I was told to fill out paperwork. Paperwork! Are they the government now? Smith fumed, even as he cajoled the passing crowd for more cash.

I earn money. I give a third of it to an organizational entity and somehow don't seem to be receive services let alone utopia back in return.

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Yesterday, a huge flat-screen TV went up in Zuccotti Park for a movie night and pajama party with popcorn. Organizers hoped it would attract new recruits -- even as some long-timers complained that the movement was getting too diffuse after yesterdays lackluster showing at a police-brutality event in Union Square that barely attracted 50 participants.

We gave the money to the central committee and they seem to be able to buy people big screens and entertainment, but can't take care of basic necessities.



This honestly has to be a parody piece because real life could never be this funny.

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