Originally Posted by tonton
You've got it completely backasswards. Full disclosure is the opposite of what we need to do. What we need to do is to prohibit any disclosure. Make all political donations anonymous, with the anonymity especially strict between donor and recipient. Make it a felony to disclose the source of a donation. This is the only way we can end the 'tit for tat' culture of corruption.
This is ridiculously naive. Obviously even now if someone is corrupt and wants to make a large donation for a favor they can't disclose it. They just hide it a dozen different ways. You take this corruption and institutionalize it. Hey, how do you make it a felony to disclose an act that hasn't happened yet btw? Does it become a thoughtcrime? Do you limit speech by declaring it a crime to even discuss giving a donation?
Congressman Tonton: So I see you need a few favors done. You want a tax loophole so that if you make a few wind turbines, we absolve you of your federal corporate tax.
Crony Jimmac: Sure, that'd be GE, I mean awesome. What do I need to do to make it happen?
Congressman Tonton: Well how about $2 million towards my reelection.
Crony Jimmac: Consider it done, especially since we will save billions on our tax bill.
One week later.......
Congressman Tonton: He, there's a two million more in my reelection fund at the agreed upon date and time. Did you put that there?
Crony Jimmac: (knowing smile) Well sir, you know I can't disclose that.
Originally Posted by tonton
And there you have it. The conservative mindset.
Who cares about them? They don't matter. They're poor. Fuck them. I don't care about them. They are all filthy and lazy. Don't give them health care on my dollar. Don't give them any favors on my fucking dollar. Yeah. Jesus hates them because they are lazy and steal my tax money to pay for their laziness.
You're so cute when you caricature and strawman a point. Jimmac was making it sound like they were some powerful political force to be feared. I noted they aren't at all that. You make it sound like that means to burn them alive or something of that nature. A few thousand people total nationwide playing homeless for "awareness" or "consciousness raising" doesn't equal voter turn out. Be pissed about it, caricature it, make accusations related to it, but that's the truth. Occupy by it's very nature is the exact opposite of taking action. It is prone and passive. It's a big party where you forget to show up for work the next morning only work is the election.
How is occupying a park going to run phone banks, hand out flyers, knock on doors, drive people to polls, send out mailers, etc.? It isn't. It is stationary, passive and demands narcissism rather than action. It screams look at me rather than making something happen.