Steve Jobs 'expected' to appear at Apple's iPhone 5 event - report - Page 2

I'll be more surprised if he doesn't show up.

Most surprised to least surprised:

1. Chairman Jobs MIA.
2. Chairman Jobs sitting in first row watching the event.
3. Chairman Jobs comes out only at very end to announce "One More Thing"
4. Chairman Jobs appears on screen as a giant face and announces the NC data center was really for storing his mind as a Singularity in iCloud.
5. Chairman Jobs is just another announcer with Tim Cook as master of ceremonies.
6. Jobs master of ceremonies to start with others doing the event and Tim Cook taking a larger role this time around to see how it goes.

Bottom line: It's not about your CEO, but about your best person for the job, which I still think is Chairman Jobs.

I am amazed and overwhelmed at all the management/PR gurus and their totally free advice here!

/sarcasm

+ 1. same here. well said. I only want him to up there if it brings him joy however. I don't want to see him in pain. Cancer is inhumane.

Towards the end of the keynote, Tim Cook will welcome Steve Jobs to the stage in which after 10 minutes of standing ovations from the crowd, Jobs will talk about his time at apple. Then towards the end, His last one more thing will be announced. the redesigned iPhone 5. In a Parallel universe that is...

Remember the clue: "Let's Talk iPhone." Gee, sounds like Tim might get a call from Steve. Breif, to the point, they talk iPhone and show something off. Why not?

And while we're at it, has anyone notices that kids don't actually use a phone to talk anymore? My experience is no one wants to talk into a phone unless they have to. Or make a facetime call to family. There's been reports of this Siri assistant thingy, and if it entails talking into an iPhone to make it work, I predict fail. Only place something like that is useful is in a car where it is actually illegal to hold it up to your face.

I like that!

Apple, Tim, Steve and the other Apple Executive Team members have no concern about Steve stealing anyone's thunder -- least of all Tim's.

Tim is running the largest technology company in the world -- and quite well by all measures.

Steve has made his mark on the world -- quite a few, actually.

But Steve's biggest accomplishment is that he has assembled a management team capable of running Apple 2011 (and beyond) -- Apple, being Steve's second biggest accomplishment!

I've worked at firms that had sad old guys sitting in their elaborate offices, wearing their old-fashioned garb, doing not much, until they were carried out feet first.

I hope that Steve actually has something going on in life other than work work work. Very sad to see otherwise.

Anything that smacks of showboating (final bows, farewell speeches, handing over of torches, etc.) is highly unlikely. In the first place, it's just not Apple's (read Steve's) style. Secondly, even if they were to do something like that, it wouldn't be at a downplayed, almost non-event such as this.

Have you been following Apple or Steve Jobs long?

Freak

Yes but the latency must be killing you. Fat pipes aren't necessarily fast pipes.

"Discontent and unable to come up with any actual argumentative points, the trolls descended into the madness that is outright name-calling."

Excerpt from The History of Apple Trolling, Chaper 5: AppleInsider, Part II.

I hope he's doing what he enjoys. He certainly has earned the means to pick what that is.

I know seeing you actually think Steve Jobs reads this forum.

Not really following - like most people, until I bought an Apple CE product Apple wasn't really on my radar. I decided to replace my aging Apple II with a custom-made clone, and never looked back until a few years ago.

WRT Steve, I understand he used to be some kind of a drug fiend or something, ditched a bastard kid, and then did TM. Next he got shitcanned, started up a none-too-presciently named computer co, and then came back into the fold. Since then, his business chops have competed for headlines with his fatal medical conditions.

I don't really care about celebrities, whether in the business arena or elsewhere. Why do you ask?

I disagree, it should not be about your CEO, or your best person for the job, it should be about the product.

The keynotes Jobs has delivered over the past 15 years would have been nothing short of a joke had the products all been crappy. There is no doubt that he is a consummate showman, and a hell of a salesman, but he has been selling awesome products, and that's what Apple should continue to push at these events.

I think that what would work best is if Steve starts the keynote and "hands over the reigns" to Tim. Tht would be best. It would show how he has total faith in Tim and how he feels that it was the right thing to do. They could have an announcement though that Steve will still continue to do all the Keynotes from here on out. It might work brilliently since we all know that Steve has a reality distortion field around him at all times. I'd drink is Koolaid! LOL

How can your product be the MC of an event?

...short... but not too big around!

It can't, but it can be overshadowed by the MC of an event, and I think it's important that doesn't happen.

I think if Jobs shows up, he will overshadow the product, and that would be stupid.

So since 1997 Jobs showing up has overshadowed the product? I don't' think so. He's the best presenter I've ever seen on stage at an Apple eventever. He helps sell the product, not detract from it.

No he has not, but the last 15 years he was the CEO, not the ex-CEO who had recently stood down because of health issues.

If he shows up tomorrow, the headlines will be divided between.

1. The product.
2. The fact that he was there.
3. The fact that he is looking well.
4. The fact that he is looking sick.
5. The fact that his being there shows he wants to support Tim Cook.
6. The fact that his being there means he doesn't trust Tim Cook to do things properly.

If he doesn't show up tomorrow, I think most of the headlines will be about the product (though some will be about the fact he wasn't there I concede).

The goal of tomorrows event surely is how to get the most positive press for the new product. I think that would best be achieved without Steve Jobs.

People made some comments about Jobs being weak when he invited others up to talk about other products. Not a big deal. In fact, that's the smart way to hand over the reigns, not to pretend that your active Chairman of the Board and former CEO who just MCed a 3 hour even in June doesn't exist.


PS: You're still ignoring that Jobs was MC during many, many years of introducing products, that fact he was there, not looking well, looking sick, the fact that Tim Cook was supporting Jobs on stage, and fact that by your assertion that Time Cook et al. being on stage before means that Jobs can't be trusted to do things properly.

Oh no.... you're back.

Didn't you go away or something, for a long time? Couldn't stay away?

I'm not saying Jobs couldn't be trusted do the job properly at all. My point is, the goal needs to be to make sure the product is the news story, and I think that is less likely to be the case if Jobs is on stage tomorrow.

You are absolutely right that Jobs doing the presentations previously didn't cause any harm, but my point remains, he was the CEO then, not the ex-CEO who had stood down. The implications for what the media will do are very different.

Except that Schiller sucks are presenting. He has no gravitas, sorry to say. Forstall is 10x better, as well as others. Where do some of you come up with your 'recommendations' as to what Apple should or shouldn't do? I't usually utterly absurd.

Also, this concern trolling about how Steve may 'ruin' Tuesday's event with his present is pretty pathetic. It's official- you people are insane. Stop worrying about Cook, I'm sure he won't feel ass-hurt by Steve being there. At the end of the day, people WANT to see Steve, and he attracts attention and PR. That's GOOD thing. It's only a presentation, stop making so much damn drama over it.

I can't help but feel if you don't like people speculating on things Apple may or may not do, an Apple rumor site might not be the best place for you.

Hell I don't know what Apple will do, but I'm entitled to an opinion, and others are entitled to a different opinion. Me and Solipsism clearly have different points at the moment, but it's being conducted respectfully, and we are obviously enjoying the discussion, so what's the problem?

you will probably say I don't have a clue for what I am going to say. I am not looking to hurt you or humiliate you. I believe everyone find themselves in a different place in their lives and I don't expect you to understand right now if you are not receptive. However, I am going to try in case there is a 0.00000000001% chance that what I say may resonate and may help you one day. No need to respond.

I used to think the phrase about "..if you got nothing good to say, don't say anything at all" had to do with offending others. I discovered later that is actually key to living a happy and fulfilled life.
I can not begin to understand the rational for intentionally trying to start argumentation, however I think you are being more destructive to yourself than you realize. I am not trying to argue this with you or insult you.

Hope you find the key to your happiness one day. I don't think this is the right path however. Best wishes and health to you.

life is too short and fragile to not enjoy it.

Just because some of the people who've posted comments that they'd rather SJ didn't show up doesn't make them trolls. It's their opinion and they're entitled to it just as mach as you are to yours. Though I agree that Cook would most-likely not feel slighted if Jobs did show up, I do feel that this needs to be Cook's show. At the end of the day, what people want to see is the new iPhone, not someone who may or may not even show up. Believe me, there will be plenty of attention on the event just because of the new phone and update to iOS.

Sorry I did.

1. Steve didn't "step down" - he moved upstairs. That's rather a big difference. And in corporations - some Chairmen are as or more powerful than CEO's or Presidents, while in others they're figureheads. Which, in this case, depends on the unknown to us state of his health. If he's more than hanging on, he's still plenty involved (tho' I've seen none of the usual "sightings" or "non-sighting" reports that were frequent during his medical leave, so no indication if he's ever at HQ these days).

2. He also didn't "resign" - he's still specifically an Apple employee. And if able, still a key or the key one in terms of "the vision thing."

And these speeches have become exercises in "visionaryism" as much as product intros. I'm hardly the first to notice, I'm sure, the way in which both Zuckerberg's F8 keynote, and Jeff Bezos' intro of the new Kindle Fire (among other recent corporate events) have taken tons of cues from the patented Stevenotes of years past.

(Maybe there's a new IP infringement suit there, LOL...!) Anyway, if he's up to it, and wants to, he could still play a useful role in drawing the free attention Apple's thrived on, even if he keeps - like an old soldier - fading a little further away at each one.


3. The story of Apple is more than a business, a love affair or a movie. It's a true saga of Phoenix-like proportions unique in American History, and the leading character - a rule breaker and shaker all his life - who's changed all our lives (whether we use Apple devices or have even heard of the company) - should get to decide on "the appropriateness" of his actions as long as he's in a position to act.

Ha! Not bad - over the sound of cranes, jackhammers and plenty of busy American construction workers in the background.... ...except Facetime isn't a new feature. ....something to do with Assistant maybe?

All that said, I have no idea whether we'll see him tomorrow or not. But I kinda, sorta 'spect we well for a bit at least..... ...and if we do, it won't be in a "passing the torch" retrospective way, which I think would demean Cook by being a "vote of confidence" (which are almost always reserved for those in whom there is little confidence), and also emphasize, rather than de-emphasize the loss Apple faces without him, rather, as just being part of another successful reality distortion field show in which he plays his chosen role and Cook and Schiller and the others play theirs. Business as usual. Apple lives.

Personally, I've always found Phil Schiller to be very relatable at keynotes and presentations. He seems like a bit of a goofball when he's part of these events, someone you could actually hang out with for a while and have a decent chat with. However, he does seem to bring out a lot of venom amongst Apple fans for some bizarre reason.

I wouldn't be surprised if Schiller had more stage time over Cook. The CEO doesn't have to be on stage.

I am much more of a fan of Steve Jobs than I am a fan of Apple. A company like any other is what its leaders make it. Its not a democracy.

I wonder how many people truly grasp the word EXECUTE. As in Chief EXECUTive Officer. Being responsible for the execution of day to day business strategy is no picnic and takes more energy then Steve has anymore. He needs to save his energy and focus most of his time on his health. You can still be the visionary as long as you trust the person that it needs to execute. Hopefully Steve can trust Mr. Cook to execute of all day to day activities while Steve is still alive and able to be on the board of Directors. Which are responsible for giving DIRECTion, not EXECUTion.

More over, I don't think there is any point to trying to debate if Steve got promoted or demoted. Going from EXECUTION to DIRECTION.
I dont think he cares. I don't really care at this point either. I am sure I am not alone in this belief. All he cares about is being happy in what he does every waking hour with the time he has left on earth. If he is feeling good enough to talk tomorrow, and Apple allows him. Then it will be for his own reasons which have little to do with stock price or how much money he will make if the stock goes up. I think he stopped caring a long time ago about how much money he has in the bank. If you work very hard on something for a long time, wouldn't you too want to get on stage and show off what you and your team have accomplished? Its not about the money.

If Apple loses its vision after Steve passes (whenever that will be, months, years, decades from now), I will feel sad but I wont be surprised. There are few people on this planet that have had the courage, desire, skill and dedication that Steve has for execution on vision that revolves around making the best product possible 1st, profit 2nd. I honestly don't know that Tim Cook is the guy to keep that up. He is a finance guy.. hopefully he has seen the light however and will be strong and courageous when the going gets tough from "cheap" product competitors.

Yeah, I think it's a great opportunity to say "thank you all" and then pass "the key to Apple" on to Tim.

I Think it's called B.O. -- Banned Outright!

I agree. I dont see Cook as that type of CEO. There is no point trying to replicate Jobs, if you are not Jobs. Schiller isn't either, but he is a salesman. Cook is an administrative guy.

Picture caption: I find your lack of faith disturbing
*force choke*

I think that Tim is super organized, has very good recall of details, a fantastic negotiator -- but most of all he is a motivator...

...just ask anyone who has dealt or negotiated with him if they are motivated

Not the same as being a public speaker, though. He can speak softly and carry a big stick.