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With Apple touting it as the most popular portable game player in the world, the iPod touch received a minor update on Tuesday, with a new white model available and a lower $199 entry price.

Apple boasted that the iPod touch now comes with iOS 5 and iCloud, as well as the traditional black color and a new white model. The 8GB model was previously priced at $229, but it has since been dropped to $199.

Pricing for the higher models remains the same, at $299 for 32GB and $399 for 64GB. With iOS 5, the iPod touch comes with iMessage, allowing for users to message with other devices like the iPhone and iPad, as well as the Game Center application with social networking and achievements.

"iPod has revolutionized the way we listen to music and with over 320 million sold is the worlds most popular music player, said Philip Schiller, Apples senior vice president of Worldwide Product Marketing. "iPod touch, now available in both black and white, is the best selling iPod ever, and with iOS 5 and iCloud it is better than ever."

Features of the new iPod touch, as highlighted by Apple, include:
Includes iOS 5, which includes over 200 new features including iMessage, Game Center, Notifications and Wi-Fi Syncing to iTunes.
iMessage brings the functionality of iPhone messaging to your iPod touch, so you can easily send text messages, photos, videos and contact information to an individual or group on other iOS 5 devices. It also allows you to easily maintain one conversation across all your iOS devicesfor freewith notifications, read receipts and typing indication.
Game Center enhancements include the ability to add photos to your profile, purchase new games from within the Game Center app, and even easier ways to find friends and new games.
iPod touch also works with iCloud, Apples free cloud services, including iTunes in the Cloud, Photo Stream and Documents in the Cloud, that work seamlessly with your iPhone, iPad, iPod touch, Mac or PC to automatically and wirelessly store your content and push it to your devices. When content changes on one device, all your other devices are updated automatically and wirelessly.
Pricing & Availability

iPod touch with iOS 5 and iCloud will be available October 12 in black and white for a suggested price of $199 (US) for the 8GB model, $299 (US) for the 32GB model and $399 (US) for the 64GB model through the Apple Store (www.apple.com), Apples retail stores and Apple Authorized Resellers.

iPod touch requires a Mac with a USB 2.0 port, Mac OS X v10.5.8 or later and iTunes 10 or later; or a Windows PC with a USB 2.0 port and Windows Vista or Windows XP Home or Professional (Service Pack 3) or later and iTunes 10.5 or later.

iOS 5 will also be available as a free software update for iPod touch (third and fourth generations) customers allowing them to experience the amazing new features including iMessage, Game Center, Notifications and Wi-Fi Syncing to iTunes.

AppleInsider was first to report back in July that Apple would release a white iPod touch while otherwise leaving the digital media player untouched.
post #2 of 37
Probably the most boring Apple event ever
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Well, generation 3 updated Disapointment repeated. This wasn't worth waiting for.
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Everyone seems to be in a tizzy about the iPhone 4S not being the iPhone 5... but that's just semantics. It's a new iPhone with substantial new features.

The real let down of the announcement was this, the iPod touch. And I though last year's touch was disappointing. White? Really? That's what iPt users get? I wouldn't have cared if they made it Zune-brown, just give it a little love. You know, for those of us that would like a capable iOS device in our pocket but aren't willing to get wallet-raped by a required two-year data plan.
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Yeah....no iphone 5 and a white ipod touch? Blah.

Definately not the home run for new CEO Cook everyone was hoping for.

A Job-less keynote was bad enough. Cook needed all the help he could get, and he didnt. Now the stock is tanking.

For me the biggest let down was the Ipod Touch. White? White? No A5 to handle the nee demands of iOS5? And NO NEW CAMERA????? That is unforgivable. The old camera sucked balls. Seriously. It is soooo far behind even the crappiest disposable camera its not even funny.

There is a huge market for the ipod touch still. They could have made it a killer portable iOS/music device....and all they change is the friggin color? Blah!

Totally underwhelmed.
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Anyone who thought the iPhone would br a complete overhaul was an idiot to start with. But no improvements to the iPod touch is insulting. Why no 128gb in the face of falling prices? Why noa5 in the face of no capacity upgrade? Wow white. That's magical. A games machine that won't handle the games to the same extent as the phone? But it's white!
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Totally Agree. The ipod touch update is LAME. White? Oooooooooooh.

And I am not being a typical never satisfied Apple fan boy either. I usually am thoroughly satisfied with Apple...Bow-chikka wow wow! Lol

But seriously. White? Thats it?

No A5? How is the new ipod touch gonna handle the more demanding iOS 5?

And no camera update???? WTF? The old one is a JOKE! It has what? A HALF a mega pixel? You could get a disposable Happy meal digital camera with more megapixels. This is unforgivable, and not up to Apple standards at all. It wasnt a year ago...and it certainly not now.

Very underwhelming first keynote for new CEO Cook. Already had impossibly big shoes to fill...but the iphone 5 and a better ipod touch would have helped him alot.
post #8 of 37
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Originally Posted by KazKam View Post

Everyone seems to be in a tizzy about the iPhone 4S not being the iPhone 5... but that's just semantics. It's a new iPhone with substantial new features.

The real let down of the announcement was this, the iPod touch. And I though last year's touch was disappointing. White? Really? That's what iPt users get? I wouldn't have cared if they made it Zune-brown, just give it a little love. You know, for those of us that would like a capable iOS device in our pocket but aren't willing to get wallet-raped by a required two-year data plan.

Totally agree with you and others here.

Personally, I have no interest in the new (or any) iPhone with a two-year plan. However, I would have upgraded my gen4 iPodTouch in a heartbeat if they would have just upgraded the camera! I could live without a CPU upgrade this time around (although it would have been nice), but no update to the camera really is insulting. It's garbage. I sure hope Apple is listening.
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This is very, very unfortunate. I'm actually quite impressed with all the features added with the iPhone 4S. But not increasing the iPod touch capacity to 128gb and charging the same price is insulting. My 160gb iPod is on its last legs but I guess I will try to make it work for yet another year.
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This is very, very unfortunate. I'm actually quite impressed with all the features added with the iPhone 4S. But not increasing the iPod touch capacity to 128gb and charging the same price is insulting. My 160gb iPod is on its last legs but I guess I will try to make it work for yet another year.

Might was well just get an iphone 4s without a contract. It'll be more than the ipod touch...but you get an A5 chip AND a real HD camera.

The ipod touch update was the lamest update ever. Changing the color is Not an update. This is Apple's biggest fail in a long time.
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No A5? How is the new ipod touch gonna handle the more demanding iOS 5?

The exact same way the Apple TV and iPhone 4 will

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And no camera update???? WTF?

Portable music player doesn't get a better camera. World is shocked for some reason.

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Already had impossibly big shoes to fill...but the iphone 5 and a better ipod touch would have helped him alot.

Except you (and nearly everyone else) have just agreed that anything he presented would have sucked in comparison, so it doesn't really matter how "underwhelming" the updates were.

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post #12 of 37
The iPod Touch is starting to resemble the iPod Classic. The Classic did not receive an internal upgrade last year. Now the iPod Touch fails to do so this year. Could this be the last year for the iPod Touch?
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Is all about the money?
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And the iPod Classic lives to see another day (for the moment), as it is still on Apple's website.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

The exact same way the Apple TV and iPhone 4 will



Portable music player doesn't get a better camera. World is shocked for some reason.



Except you (and nearly everyone else) have just agreed that anything he presented would have sucked in comparison, so it doesn't really matter how "underwhelming" the updates were.

Its called forward progress Skil. The ipod touch is morr thsn just a portablr music player. The nano, shuffle and classic are. The ipod touch is an iOS device. And as such deserves a better camera. People are using the ipod touch for more than music. It is fast becoming a VOIP alternative to the iphone for those who travel alot or who dont want to get locked into a long contract. Taking and sending picutres and videos is just as important to this large group of people than to iphone users.
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This event was one of the least exciting I've seen (or followed via streaming text updates). Siri voice commands seem interesting but really not useful. It's just a cool gimmick that will use up all the RAM.

I wanted a new iPod Touch with a bigger screen and the A5. Having a good camera would have been a plus. Now I'm at a loss for what to get. I just don't want to purchase two year old technology in a device that I'll probably keep for at least three years. I don't want a cell phone. I don't want an iPad because it is bigger than a pocket.

I'm just very let down. This was supposed to be a great day for me. A new better iPod Touch was to be my new toy. I've been hoping for a good upgrade for so many months that this just seems worthless.

It's time for me to stop hanging around the Apple news sites. They are more interesting than the Apple products lately.
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How come you cannot take pictures with the iPod Touch
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use up all the RAM.



Implying you can do anything else while you're using it… It's not a background process. It won't be using anything else's RAM.

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I'm just very let down. This was supposed to be a great day for me. A new better iPod Touch was to be my new toy. I've been hoping for a good upgrade for so many months that this just seems worthless.

So buy from some other company.

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How come you cannot take pictures with the iPod Touch

Because you can.

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post #19 of 37
This is a SAD day... No new iPod Touch for me.
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It's very clear Apple isn't putting much, if any, effort into the iPod. Miserable, just miserable.
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This event was one of the least exciting I've seen (or followed via streaming text updates). Siri voice commands seem interesting but really not useful. It's just a cool gimmick that will use up all the RAM.

I wanted a new iPod Touch with a bigger screen and the A5. Having a good camera would have been a plus. Now I'm at a loss for what to get. I just don't want to purchase two year old technology in a device that I'll probably keep for at least three years. I don't want a cell phone. I don't want an iPad because it is bigger than a pocket.

I'm just very let down. This was supposed to be a great day for me. A new better iPod Touch was to be my new toy. I've been hoping for a good upgrade for so many months that this just seems worthless.

It's time for me to stop hanging around the Apple news sites. They are more interesting than the Apple products lately.

This post is emblematic of the infantile tone of all the threads today. Why do you all keep your childish emotions so close to the surface? What happened to real men in this culture?

Buck up, lads! Stiff upper . . . ! etc., etc.
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Its called forward progress Skil. The ipod touch is morr thsn just a portablr music player. The nano, shuffle and classic are. The ipod touch is an iOS device. And as such deserves a better camera. People are using the ipod touch for more than music. It is fast becoming a VOIP alternative to the iphone for those who travel alot or who dont want to get locked into a long contract. Taking and sending picutres and videos is just as important to this large group of people than to iphone users.

Your point about VOIP is a good point, and not one that At&T, Verizon and now Sprint want any consumer considering. Steve Jobs was open enough to call it an iPhone without the phone, but his successors might not want you to call it that. They want you to plunge into the full blown iPhone and all the extra expense that incurs.
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Because you can.

Yes, you're right. I can indeed but I am not sure what they mean with

"still photos (960 by 720) with back camera"

How many megapixels is that? It clearly is not in the same league as the iPhone 4Gs?
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It clearly is not in the same league as the iPhone 4Gs?

No, of course not. It isn't meant to be.

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post #25 of 37
actually it is very interesting question

Ipod touch always was an iphone without calls. I can see logic in that. You need ta talk and use all features of ios - thats an iphone. You dont need to make calls - you get touch

Touch is multimedia player and game console.
What is the point of this device when you can buy new improved iphone (after all it is not bad phone)?
What is the point of this device if it cant support latest games (like infinity blade 2)???


Why not make 4inch touch with all-new cpu and ram and make it real pain in the ass for psp??
Why not make at least a better camera?? They add useless camera on nano once..
Why not make 128Gb??? And make classic go away (actually i like classic more, but at least I can see logic)
Why not make at least bigger battery??? ANd so on

There are tons of min-improvements that could make ipod touch look better and "younger"..
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Yes, you're right. I can indeed but I am not sure what they mean with

"still photos (960 by 720) with back camera"

How many megapixels is that? It clearly is not in the same league as the iPhone 4Gs?

That would be less than 1 megapixel (about .7 megapixel). The problem used to be that the Touch is so thin you couldn't find a decent camera sensor that would fit. I don't know if that's still an issue.
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Hmmm weird how they don't say why processor they use on the website... No mention at all
post #28 of 37
The touch is mainly used to play games, no upgrade to A5 = major fail. WTF are they doing at Apple, did they stop working because SF is not there?
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What about Facetime? Remember that? Until today Facetime was the premier feature on the iPod Touch home page. With crappy cameras Facetime isn't that great. What about that text message thing in iOS? It wasn't mentioned in the stream of the AI reporting. Is it still a big feature?

When douche bags like TallestSkil and Flaneur put down people for their opinions, they're forgetting about some of the things Apple promoted in the past. As was written before, the older version of iPod Nano had good camera and video features. If something that good can be put in a Nano, why won't Apple put it in the much higher priced Touch?

Larger drives are available now so there is no reason Apple can't put one in the Touch.

These features might cause one to say they cost more and Apple won't make as big of a profit. I say if I refuse to buy outdated products, Apple makes no profit from me.

Apple wasn't giving in to the telecoms in the past but I suspect something has changed. They seem to have stopped promoting WiFi connectivity.

Should I buy something from somebody else? If there were another company making such a music player that also had other great features I would. The thing is that Apple in the past was doing a great job of regularly updating their iPods. So when this year came along and we got "White" as a color choice, excuse me for being very disappointed. Apple has fumbled and I do believe that this is a very bad business decision.

Cowan makes similar devices but they are crappy. I've got a lot of thinking to do about this. I might end up getting a Nook from Barns & Noble and putting Android on it. With that I'll then get a separate music player. I'm not going to make any purchases until the Christmas season. Most of the other updated tech stuff will be out by then. It will be easier to make a decision when I know what's out there.
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What about that text message thing in iOS? It wasn't mentioned in the stream of the AI reporting. Is it still a big feature?

Try looking for yourself. It's right on the first page, for heaven's sake.

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the older version of iPod Nano had good camera and video features.

It had no camera. It was only a camcorder.

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If something that good can be put in a Nano, why won't Apple put it in the much higher priced Touch?

Because the cameras already in the iPod touch are better than the camcorder in the old iPod nano. The front camera is the exact same quality. The back camera is higher.

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Larger drives are available now so there is no reason Apple can't put one in the Touch.

Implying existence is the only requirement for inclusion.

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They seem to have stopped promoting WiFi connectivity.

Are we still talking about the iPod touch?

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post #31 of 37
The bottom line is that this was NOT an update. Nothing was changed except that you now have a choice of a white ipod. And that it will come with iOS 5 installed. Oh...and the $30 price drop in the 8 gig version. Personally i think they should have just dropped the 8 gig and made the bottom one 16 gig.

This is not typical Apple fanboy complaining about nothing. People have a reason to be let down a bit. I don't think anyone was expecting a radical redesign, but SOMETHING. After a year since the last one...NOTHING was changed. I am sorry, but a white ipod touch is not an update by any stretch of the imagination.

And you may not use the ipod to take pictures, but ALOT of people do...and I am sorry...but the HALF mega pixel camera was lame last year....and its even more lame now.

I love Apple. Been using Apple products way before it was "cool" to be an Apple head. Before Apple stores even existed. When you were laughed at by the pc geeks behind the counter at COMPUSA when you asked where the apple section was. Lol. So dont tell me to just buy something else.

People have a right to vent a little after waiting a year for such a lame update. :-p
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The only advantage is the exchange rate was a little nicer in my favor after this update. Sme thing, but slightly cheaper. Still annoys me that it's pimped as a games machine, then it's hobbled with the old processor. I am guessing tht means support for the older generation gadgets with newer releases of iOS is guaranteed as they are still selling 3GS.
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The bottom line is that this was NOT an update. Nothing was changed except that you now have a choice of a white ipod. And that it will come with iOS 5 installed. Oh...and the $30 price drop in the 8 gig version. Personally i think they should have just dropped the 8 gig and made the bottom one 16 gig.

This is not typical Apple fanboy complaining about nothing. People have a reason to be let down a bit. I don't think anyone was expecting a radical redesign, but SOMETHING. After a year since the last one...NOTHING was changed. I am sorry, but a white ipod touch is not an update by any stretch of the imagination.

And you may not use the ipod to take pictures, but ALOT of people do...and I am sorry...but the HALF mega pixel camera was lame last year....and its even more lame now.

I love Apple. Been using Apple products way before it was "cool" to be an Apple head. Before Apple stores even existed. When you were laughed at by the pc geeks behind the counter at COMPUSA when you asked where the apple section was. Lol. So dont tell me to just buy something else.

People have a right to vent a little after waiting a year for such a lame update. :-p

I wonder how the iPod Classic fits in the Post PC era? You still need a computer to activate your iPod?!
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And you may not use the ipod to take pictures, but ALOT of people do...and I am sorry...but the HALF mega pixel camera was lame last year....and its even more lame now.

I am mystified why Apple isn't offering a great camera with their iPod Touch. It feels like Apple is not confident that the addition of a phone to the iPhone is not a big enough differentiator?
post #35 of 37
So only software updates for the nano and the touch. The Shuffle and the classic continue to be sold without changes.

And only the nano gets a (way too small imo) price drop.

Apple's profit margins on iPods must go THROUGH THE ROOF! In 10 months the iPod Touch will be ancient technology and they'll still sell it at the same price points... wow!

I think this is Tim Cook's signature we're seeing here. Jobs was all about innovative products, and then Cook had to make sure these were sold and manufactured as efficiently as possible.

This kinda looks like Cook wants to manufacture and sell Apple'sproducts as efficiently as possible, and the rest of Apple just has to make sure these products are "cool" enough so people want to buy them.

Another example is the iPhone 4S: it's now a world phone, so that's only half as much SKU's in the supply chain compared to the iPhone 4. (oh, and the unlocked price for the -let's face it- ANCIENT 3GS in my country is equal to that of an Xperia Arc)
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^ things that bother people on AppleInsider
^ things that don't bother 95% of people who buy iPod touch.





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Originally Posted by mr O View Post

I am mystified why Apple isn't offering a great camera with their iPod Touch. It feels like Apple is not confident that the addition of a phone to the iPhone is not a big enough differentiator?

Thickness of great camera > thickness of iPod touch
Thickness of great camera >= thickness of iPhone
Thickness of really basic camera = thickness of iPod touch
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Thickness of really basic camera = thickness of iPod touch



Really? You could post a link to a point and shoot that is 7.2mm thick?

I might have to look into that.

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