Let me start by saying that I took the news harshly, I was really hoping for a smaller phone, I personally find the iPhone 4 to be bigger than it's screen than it needs to be. I thought s year and a half could have solved that.
It is a better device now, just, not enough to make me want to upgrade, BUT I promised my gf that I'd give her my iPhone when I got the new one. I guess I'm just less excited now.
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1) Yeah, a processor, GPU and its interconnects that can do more in less time is a good thing for many reasons. If you don't understand that then it would be pointless for me to explain.
I do get this, being highly educated in CS. I just don't buy it in the case of phones. I am of the opinion that machines are starting to actually be overpowered, which I think will change eventually. I do understand that NOT putting in the A5 would have been very bad, so I cede this point.
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2) You honestly don't how faster internet speeds could help with anything other than torrenting? Perhaps battery usage efficiency being able to use the cellular chips less often. Or perhaps being able to render webpages and data in apps faster, like streaming of video. You really think waiting is a good thing here?
Fair enough, but let's think about real world use. I have an iPhone 4 and I don't wait for much of anything, this faster phone speed probably just uses more power. Seems like a non feature to me, for most carriers especially, I mean, I am in Canada and I doubt well get any hsdpa+ or whatever anytime soon. But yeah all in all I haven't found the current speeds lacking, but then upgrading the chips to something less than 4G, ouch.
And then theres coverae issues which I'd bet affect speeds way more than these theoretical maxes.
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3) It wasn't a problem, but neither was it a problem with any other iPhone before it. Apple makes their stuff better. Why does this seem so alien to you?
I wasn't saying it was a bad thing, in fact, for those that bought the antenagate hype, it's great. It just doesn't matter to me, or anyone with an i4 that hasn't had reception problems.
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4) It's improved in several good ways according to event data. I'm not one to use a camera but I can certainly see why better quality photos, that are better stability and especially in low light settings are a good thing of those that use it.
oh yeah, no doubt. Just not upgrade bait really... Honestly this is like the best new feature as far as I am concerned.
5) It has been seen. What part of the Siri/Nuance Assistant do you think won't be as good as the voice recognition in iOS 4.x?[/QUOTE]
Voice recognition in iOS 4 has failed me consistently and I really do my best to be loud and articulate. So I'm not getting my hopes up, looks quite cool though, I just wonder how useful it will be. But hey, if it gets us closer to getting away from keyboards, all the better. I'd love to see this on a new iPod shuffle! I also hope they update that voice, it's pretty weak IMHO
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6) Again, why pooh-pooh improved software because Apple is offering it to other devices. I'm sure you'd complain if Apple oddly didn't give the iPhone 4S new SW features so why complain when they do. You should at least leave it as a null value.
Oh I'd complain alright,

I was only shooting this down as being a reason to buy the new phone.
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7) For the most part you are right; this won't affect many users right away. This also could be the reason for this extra long delay since getting a world mode chip in a smartphone with this many bands has never before been done, especially in such a small smartphone. However, this does open the door for the US finally being to get legislation to get carriers to unlock devices after your contract is fulfilled. Why is that a bad thing?
Not bad, unless the lower battery life is the result... I find it strange that wifi time is lower but 3G times are higher..
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8) Prove to me they could have put these 64GB chips in the number of iPhones sold in the last 16 months. What were the yields of these chips then compared to the assumed upper-tier iPhone 4 sales? What were its cost per unit? How much power did they use? How fast were the chips? How was the reliability of these chips? Last I had read a year ago was they weren't as fast and had a significantly lower number of read/write sessions that made them unlikely to find their way into the iPhone until 2011. Reading about a new tech on Engadget doesn't mean it's ready for mass production in the most popular devices on the planet.
Sure, iPod touch has had 64gb for 16 months. That's proof no?
Had the same TV, same stereo system, but got the newest AppleTV and new TiVo HD. Made the experience considerably better because core devices made accessing my media better, faster and more enjoyable. Buying a new TV just because the black plastic border is a little difference would not have made a difference.[/QUOTE]
O so maybe tvs are replaced as often but my point remains, the device Form factor has remained identical for more than ayear, in the technology industry that's like 80 lifetimes. HP lauched and killed a product in the meantime!