Originally Posted by storneo
I've been saying the knew iPhone would be a 4s for almost a year! People thought I was crazy. Now who's crazy?!
You, for thinking this proves you're clairvoyant......
Originally Posted by sarges
disappointing event, no new iPhone just a re-cooked iPhone 4, true to form as in the past (see iPhone 3GS), I guess they feel they are well in front of the competition there is no need of anything new. I don't see many iPhone users upgrading to 'this', 3G and 3GS sure but not 4s. I guess we have to wait another 12 months to see anything new.
Dunno about 12 months. All bets are off on release sked for the next phone. Two years should be enough return on "production experience" for this shell - which will be passed down anyway, as the 3GS and 4 have been, so it has more YEARS of life anyway - so as one suggested it might be an iPad spring, iPhone summer and iPod (and say MBA, ATV or whatever) fall.
However, while I'm sure this is going to be another huge seller that at least maintains Apple's relative position (with new OS, modern internals, good as P&S camera, and adding carrieres), I am concerned about Apple's relatively low % of R&D spending relative to sales and profits - it's far below that of other companies. Meaning - with the best margins in the biz - they CAN do more and STILL have... ...the best margins in the business AND blow away the competition even more.
One thing's sure - Cook needs another breakthrough product to establish his stamp as long as we just got through a long talk about an update to an existing line which leaves Apple exactly where it was in the same lines of biz, with the same degree of product polish - and needs it sometime in 2012, and a "retina display" iPad 3 with an A6 chip won't qualify - or even a "real iPhone 5" (whatever that would be). The living room looks like the frontier here..... ...but an Apple just polishing its existing brass won't be the company the world loves to get excited about.
Originally Posted by Negafox
Edge-to-edge screen does not necessarily mean a brick in your pocket. That is a bit exaggerated. They could simply slightly increase the screen size while maintaining the current resolution and form factor. Just reduce the white space. That would have been a sexy change.
Originally Posted by saintstryfe
I don't get why people are upset about the screen - Bigger screens either mean less pixel density or bigger resolution. Apps are not going to be rewritten for this yet.
The only real criticism I have is that they didn't go to about 3.8" - that still would've been in "retina-range" and not changed the dimensions.
Originally Posted by jragosta
The new phone has:
- much faster processor
- much faster data speeds
- new antenna
- greatly improved camera
- incredible voice recognition
- Improved software
- World phone capability
- up to twice the storage capacity
In fact, virtually everything is new except the case.
Yet everyone is whining "we didn't get anything new - just a faster iPhone). So do you use your phone to make calls or access the internet - or do you spend all your time staring at the case? It's funny that it's the Apple haters who are spending the most time focusing on the package rather than what's inside.
It's a great update - whether they called it iPhone 4S or iPhone 5 or Swiss Cheese.
Conservative and fair to call it the 4S - acknowledging it's not a whole new form rather a thorough refinement. Not pointing out that NO US customers will get the benefit of the 14.4 speed they talked about (not compatible with even much of anything AT&T has deployed, let alone the other two carriers) is less "fair" and nearly deceptive. And the SCREEN is also not new.
Originally Posted by afreemanmd
What is possibly good about a "world phone" as long as the phone is forever locked to a single carrier, even after contract? ... This is not much of a feature IMHO unless they sell unlocked versions or will unlock after contract.
It's a HUGE feature for APPLE - cuts their SKU's in HALF - they can ship the same 6 widgets to every company. Major savings in supply chain/inventory management. Not to mention only minor retooling of main production lines. Which again, as noted above, for a non-dividend paying corp accumulating enough cash to pay the US national debt, I'd like to see a little more being spent on R&D to produce even insanely greater products. Like the turn by turn stuff and and transactional capabilities (being foamed about below, but desirable, nonetheless), better facebooking, etc.
Originally Posted by rtm135
NO NFC? NO WALLET? NO TURN-BY-TURN?
In other news, the Android platform triples it's lead over iOS...
In other news, half-informed numbskulls will never get "its" and "it's" straight.
Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Not in profits. Or in sales. Or marketshare. Or user retention. Or customer feedback.
So… in what?
Exactly. Meanwhile, I'm in for the "ecosystem" halo benefits as much as anything else, so the bells and whistles on all those Androids (which may or may not be updated, improved, last, work, stay uninfected, who knows) are just fun to look at.