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Apple has posted video of Tuesday's special event to unveil the iPhone 4S, with Siri voice control technology, online for the public to see.

The full event can be viewed at Apple's website. Led by Apple Chief Executive Tim Cook, the keynote is 137 minutes long.

The biggest introduction at Tuesday's keynote was the new iPhone 4S, Apple's latest version of its best-selling smartphone. The iPhone 4S features the new A5 processor, a redesigned antenna, and an 8-megapixel camera that can shoot 1080p high-definition video.

The biggest addition to the new iPhone 4S is Siri, a voice recognition and control feature that allows users to use natural language to access information or accomplish tasks. For example, users can compose a text message, find a local restaurant, or make a call, all by using Siri.

The iPhone 4S is also a "world phone," meaning that one model is compatible with both CDMA networks, like Verizon, and GSM ones, like AT&T. Apple also added Sprint as a new major carrier partner in the U.S.

The iPhone 4S will be available for preorder starting on Oct. 7, and the handset will go on sale next Friday, Oct. 14 in the U.S., Australia, Canada, France, Germany, Japan and the U.K.

Apple also reduced the price of its entry-level 8GB iPod touch on Tuesday to $199, and added a new white model in addition to the existing black one. The company's iPod nano lineup also received a price drop, now costing $129 for the 8GB model and $149 for 16GB.



For a full, extensive rundown of all of the day's news, see AppleInsider's full coverage from the "Let's Talk iPhone" event, included below:

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Whats up with the empty, first row reserved seat? In honor of Steve?
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Whats up with the empty, first row reserved seat? In honor of Steve?

I think so. I didn't see him mentioned anywhere and the Chairmain of the Board and former CEO should be at the event if health permits.
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No thanks. It was painful enough the first time around. I have no desire to relive the disappointment.


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I think so. I didn't see him mentioned anywhere and the Chairmain of the Board and former CEO should be at the event if health permits.

Only in your dreams.
This is business, not the Oscars.
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No thanks. It was painful enough the first time around. I have no desire to relive the disappointment.

In terms of the product, its a solid upgrade to a phone that's selling extremely well. There's a time to "kill your own children" but Apple's sell-though figures and projections must indicate that now is not the time.

You there is a distinct advantage to leverage R&D investment for as long as you can without hurting your market position or feature offerings, and short of a larger screen, there's not much else a new form factor would do other than 'be different-looking" In fact, as Apple's case with Samsung points out, more and more are following the iPhone form factor.

There had been some talk of a curved glass screen, which would certainly garner Apple a lot of attention - but is its use and carry function served best by this find of design?

You also have to be sensitive to forcing your base to consider new options and accessories too frequently, as the net cost for upgrading can be far more than the phone (cases, music docks, car adapters, etc.)

The 4s removes uncertainty from the marketplace, and people who were waiting to purchase can now go ahead knowing their getting the latest phone from Apple. Competitively, Apple has obviously analyzed that whatever potential loss of clients they will experience because the 4s "was not different enough" will be substantively outweighed by overall sales growth and likely increased margins given the same form factor.

This is the phone more for new and migrating customers, and less so for existing 4 owners.

What has to settle out is how many of the neat iOS 5 features are fully available on the 4 vs the 4s - if Siri works just was well on the 4, well, its a free or nearly free feature boost for us 4 users, but not so great if Apple does hope to nudge some of us to new hardware.

My guess is an iPhone 5 will come in the June timeframe...

What was somewhat disappointing was the tenor of the event - Cook seemed unusually sluggish, and most of the other presenters also appear a little off kilter...maybe some nerves being the first event without Steve, and knowing the blogophere and rumor hype was exceeding the product they were launching...

One other point - I'm sure Apple thinks about how much money they can reasonably expect their customers to spend on their products in a given timeframe - perhaps there are some things coming in the next three to four months that will be a better fit for our upgrade budgets...
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Only in your dreams.
This is business, not the Oscars.

First row, aisle seat, a big reserved sign on it for the whole event, prominent in repeated shots of the audience. Even at the Oscars they fill seats with warms bodies when somebody goes to take a leak...

It seemed purposeful.
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No thanks. It was painful enough the first time around. I have no desire to relive the disappointment.



Sad but true.
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First row, aisle seat, a big reserved sign on it for the whole event, prominent in repeated shots of the audience. Even at the Oscars they fill seats with warms bodies when somebody goes to take a leak...

It seemed purposeful.

Don't worry, I'm sure George Lucas could fix it for you if it would make you any happier.
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Don't worry, I'm sure George Lucas could fix it for you if it would make you any happier.

After the horrendous Star Wars Blu Ray release, I'd say no he couldn't!
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After the horrendous Star Wars Blu Ray release, I'd say no he couldn't!

But it's the biggest selling Blu-ray ever! Are u trolling Lucas?

But then again he might stick Jar Jar Binks in that seat.
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No thanks. It was painful enough the first time around. I have no desire to relive the disappointment.

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Sad but true.

Neither of you are even trying to hide your outright [insult] trolling anymore, are you?

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Neither of you are even trying to hide your outright [insult] trolling anymore, are you?

We're just having some fun after an abysmally underwhelming day.
And what's on your agenda besides your sarcasm?
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We're just having some fun after an abysmally underwhelming day.
And what's on your agenda besides your sarcasm?

Stopping abject nonsense like this:

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abysmally underwhelming day.

from propagating.

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I don't think it was that bad. It's not what people thought it would be, but I never expected an LTE 4.5 inch 3D holographic display quad core A9 processor. I think the real delays were because of iCloud, iTunes Match and all those services.

I am impressed with the strong internal rebuilding with the same exterior. That's not too easy.
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Stopping abject nonsense like this:



from propagating.


Truth always wins in the end.
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Have you ever noticed that after a long thread where posters make predictions about what or will not happen that there is never a reckoning? Well, I'd like to offer a modest correction to that.

Yesterday there was a story speculating about whether or not Steve would make an appearance at the iPhone announcement, either real or virtual. Strong opinions were offered on both sides. Rather than embarrass those who were wrong, I am posting the screen names of those who got it right:

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At first glance at the 4s, nothing blows the doors off. But I think if you look at this more closely things change.

The advances - are they revolutionary or merely evolutionary? Is iCloud the most important battleground of today's digital world?

http://jmmxtech.wordpress.com/
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At first glance at the 4s, nothing blows the doors off. But I think if you look at this more closely things change.

The advances - are they revolutionary or merely evolutionary? Is iCloud the most important battleground of today's digital world?

http://jmmxtech.wordpress.com/

The 4S does not have ownership of Apple's cloud- it certainly could have been released 4 months ago. Abysmally underwhelming day.
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Stopping abject nonsense like this:



from propagating.

Well then if that's the case- today reminded me of the day I anxiously awaited the opening of The Phantom Menace for months only to be rewarded with this:
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1. This is not a pity-party thread for naive people disappointed when rumors were proved untrue today. Looks like a great phone and great software. I'll get one next month on Verizon.

2. Anybody else having trouble getting video from this feed? I just get audio. Latest Quicktime and everything. I just get a green screen.

Also: Wherever your disappointment stems from, the jump-the-shark metaphor is completely misused. Apple would have "jumped the shark" if they introduced a phone that emitted a lavender scent, was covered in Hypercolor fabric, and worked as a clothes iron, and came with a free snowboard.

If you think the phone is a failure, there are many appropriate metaphors for that. The Titanic is one. The Newton is another. The Spruce Goose. New Coke. Submarines with screen-doors. And there are plenty of "fail" graphics to choose from on the Internodes; just travel the series of pipes.
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I like how they still force you to watch it with their awful quicktime player too.

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I like how they still force you to watch it with their awful quicktime player too.

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I like how they still force you to watch it with their awful quicktime player too.

And they stream HD for Macs but not for Windows. I was hoping I could watch it on my Windows since my old Macbook just can't handle it.
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And they stream HD for Macs but not for Windows. I was hoping I could watch it on my Windows since my old Macbook just can't handle it.

You can play it in VLC, too, last time I tried. It's all about having an app that supports HTTP Live Streaming: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_Li...rs_and_servers
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You can play it in VLC, too, last time I tried. It's all about having an app that supports HTTP Live Streaming: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_Li...rs_and_servers

Save your breath. Both Microsoft, VLC and several other players are incorporating Apple's HTTP Live Streaming but they'll still bitch.
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I had no interest in the phone. I only was interested in the iPod Touch. It was a huge disappointment for me. The only difference is "white". I would like a white one when it comes with an A5, and can run Garage Band. I also want a bigger screen, bigger hard drive, and good cameras.

I don't care if they make it thicker to do this.

Visual media is the defacto way to communicate these days. That is why bigger screens are vital in media devices. I like the Retina display. It just needs to be much bigger. As long as it can fit into a pocket It will be good. It doesn't need to fit into a pants pocket. Jackets have big pockets and small purses have pockets too.

The phone update is a good one since the A5 doubles the speed and capabilities of it. The better camera is a good update too.

I suppose the iPod Touch can't be called an iPhone without the phone anymore. It's now the toy music device not worthy of the attention of the designers.
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Garage Band. I also want a bigger screen, bigger hard drive, and good cameras.

Sounds like you want an iPad. Because you'll just whine that GarageBand is impossible to use on a 3.5" screen. Because it WOULD be.

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I like the Retina display. It just needs to be much bigger.

Cue iPad 3.

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It doesn't need to fit into a pants pocket.

Ah, but it does.

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Jackets have big pockets and small purses have pockets too.

I'm not wearing a jacket when it's 80 and I'm not carrying a purse, however small.

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Ok just started watching - god is TC boring. No inflection in his voice at all, drone- Schiller is so much better. He may be a brilliant businessman 1-1 but please don't have him do the next one. Painful. He keeps looking at the floor!
And never again in that "Town Hall"- seems like it's at a bunker or something weirdishly cultist. Too small.
This makes Jeff Bezos seem like the new Steve. Sad actually- Steve is sorely missed.
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The 4S does not have ownership of Apple's cloud- it certainly could have been released 4 months ago. Abysmally underwhelming day.

Really without ios5? Really? Do you ever think before commenting, or do you just let it roll out.

I understand you have some weird need for this to fail. You should plan on being very disappointed.
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Really without ios5? Really? Do you ever think before commenting, or do you just let it roll out.

I understand you have some weird need for this to fail. You should plan on being very disappointed.

Not at all- but there is simply no reason why such an incremental update in hardware could not have been released earlier. Remember the 3GS was released June but MMS pics was not released until that Sept. Same thing with the iPad and iPhone 4 - multitasking was not released until the following fall. Same thing here. Much ado about nothing. Sadly.
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You can play it in VLC, too, last time I tried. It's all about having an app that supports HTTP Live Streaming: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_Li...rs_and_servers

no, it's all about not putting their video in a sh!tty outdated player. I wouldn't want to watch it in quicktime even on my mac

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Not at all- but there is simply no reason why such an incremental update in hardware could not have been released earlier. Remember the 3GS was released June but MMS pics was not released until that Sept. Same thing with the iPad and iPhone 4 - multitasking was not released until the following fall. Same thing here. Much ado about nothing. Sadly.

Incremental HW update that could have been released earlier? If you honestly believe that then surely you can detail the cellular chip used in the iPhone 4S, a setup that is more complex and offers more bands in one svelte design than any other phone I'm aware of. Where was it's predececure that would hae worked in the iPhone 4S that would make this an incremental update? Where?
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post #34 of 47
Forget about trying to watch the video on an iPad 2 - at 1AM!!
I'm ready to throw the damn thing out the window. Maybe I need Amazon Silk?
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no, it's all about not putting their video in a sh!tty outdated player. I wouldn't want to watch it in quicktime even on my mac

Do you even posts before you start trolling? Seriously, what part of my comment made you think VLC and any apps on that list are QuickTime?
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Incremental HW update that could have been released earlier? If you honestly believe that then surely you can detail the cellular chip used in the iPhone 4S, a setup that is more complex and offers more bands in one svelte design than any other phone I'm aware of. Where was it's predececure that would hae worked in the iPhone 4S that would make this an incremental update? Where?

Type English please- you act like the A5 chip was just invented and the iPhone 4(S)'s body as well.
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Type English please- you act like the A5 chip was just invented and the iPhone 4(S)'s body as well.

I didn't mention the A5 used in the iPad 2 or the casing used in the iPhone 4, yet you sated that all aspects of the iPhone 4S could have been out awhile ago. I asked you about one component. So where is your evidence?

Or is your argument do foolish that you expect Apple to release the iPhone 4S back in June the way Motorola Xoom with a promise for cellular chipset eventually? SOOON!!!
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post #38 of 47
I don't think Tim did a very good job. It felt like a history lesson not a product launch. Steve used to start with situation updates, but not historical overview so much. He also paused too much, which didn't allow momentum to build up, so it felt like it was taking forever.

I miss SJ.
post #39 of 47
ascii,

I too miss SJ, and the enthusiasm with which he talked about things. I think that's what was missing today. No RDF, no superlatives, just a bunch of guys doing their jobs really, REALLY well... but without that.... elan.

SJ felt an urgency about this stuff who can forget Schiller at the Airport announcement?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MR4R5LdrJw

Where was THIS?

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post #40 of 47
I always watch the keynotes but I think I'll pass this time. I'm depressed enough after yesterday, don't really want to relive it.
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