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Apple's acquisition of Siri has resulted in a standout feature for iPhone 4S that promises to change how users interact with mobile devices.

Apple acquired Siri a year and a half ago, and has since worked on integrating the technology into iOS 5.

Siri first appeared as an iOS app, allowing users to ask natural language questions that were analyzed via the company's network service to provide answers ranging from making dinner appointments to buying movie tickets.

The greatly improved processing power of iPhone 4S enables it to do more with Siri, turning the app into a deeply embedded service. Apple has now pulled the Siri app from the App Store, and existing users are being notified that the former Siri app will stop working October 15, after the iPhone 4S arrives.

"I've been replaced!" The app notified existing users today. "The new Siri is even smarter and better looking than me, and waiting for you on the iPhone 4S. I'll be leaving for home Oct. 15th. Until then... how can I help you?"

Apple has incorporated Siri technology into iOS to allow the new iPhone 4S to both access external queries about weather, local businesses, traffic and general information as well as providing hands-free assistance with creating calendar appointments, looking up contacts, setting up timers and location-based reminders, accessing maps or directions, sending emails or texts, or controlling iPod playback.



The functionality of Siri is also integrated with new dictation features that allow iPhone 4S users to write messages by speaking, something that should work in most existing apps anywhere the user can type.



In a video created to demonstrate Siri features, Apple depicts the new feature as working as a greatly embellished version of Voice Command, where users press the integrated mic button or, presumably, double click the Home button.



One user is depicted scheduling appointments while jogging, while another asks for directions hands-free while driving. A woman asks about the weather in another city, and a cook asks for a measurement conversion before requesting Siri to set an alarm timer.





A final segment in the video depicts Siri's integration with iOS accessibility features, showing a blind user getting a verbal text notification that she can then respond to and send entirely by voice commands.
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It better work as shown in the videos or Apple (and it) will become the butt of many, many jokes...
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Originally Posted by Dave K. View Post

It better work as shown in the videos or Apple (and it) will become the butt of many, many jokes...

Check out the BBC video.
Looks like it works as advertised.
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Gawd! Starbucks was loud enough before this.
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I have absolutely NO desire to talk to my phone (been there done that) nor my computer. I expect it to read my thoughts.
I do have a desire to browse the Internet on my flat screen TV on my wall which however ATV will not allow.
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Originally Posted by Patranus View Post

Check out the BBC video.
Looks like it works as advertised.

Is it outdoors as in a city? On a windy day?
With an ambulance passing? Or a fire engine?
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will it or will it not work on the iPhone 4?
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Originally Posted by Dave K. View Post

It better work as shown in the videos or Apple (and it) will become the butt of many, many jokes...

I would imagine it will work very well. Generally when Apple rolls out a new feature it works as it's intended. I was going to type "works as advertised", but that's often a bit over the top no matter who's product is being pushed, even Apple's.

Having said that, the feature sounds and looks pretty cool, but using it in public? Perhaps not so much. Talking to my GPS, Ford Sync or phone in the privacy of my truck or maybe at home is fine. Not going to happen at work or in other public places. Just kinda dorky IMO.
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will it or will it not work on the iPhone 4?

It is iPhone 4S feature. So not available on the iPhone 4.
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So dumb question...

Is it build into 4GS or into iOS? Will it work with iphone 4 as well? I don't get it.
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will it or will it not work on the iPhone 4?

I would like to know the answer to that question as well.

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I would like to know the answer to that question as well.

As someone already stated, it will not work with any of the current Apple products no matter if you use iOS5. It's unique to the upcoming iPhone 4s.
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Originally Posted by Patranus View Post

Check out the BBC video.
Looks like it works as advertised.

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Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post

I would imagine it will work very well. Generally when Apple rolls out a new feature it works as it's intended. I was going to type "works as advertised", but that's often a bit over the top no matter who's product is being pushed, even Apple's.

Having said that, the feature sounds and looks pretty cool, but using it in public? Perhaps not so much. Talking to my GPS, Ford Sync or phone in the privacy of my truck or maybe at home is fine. Not going to happen at work or in other public places. Just kinda dorky IMO.

I want this to actually work....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZSkvwpBBok

Current Voice Control sucks...
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I wonder if Siri will make it to Mac OS Lion.
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Lion's iCal already makes a mess of things. You think I'm going to trust voice input for this? No, Siri.
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I wonder if Siri will make it to Mac OS Lion.

I am still waiting for iBooks...
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The iPad 2 uses the same A5 chip and no doubt its at its full speed more often than in the iPhone 4S, so why doesn't it get Siri?
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The iPad 2 uses the same A5 chip and no doubt its at its full speed more often than in the iPhone 4S, so why doesn't it get Siri?

The iPhone 4S might have more RAM - I don't think they said either way, but voice recognition is RAM intensive. I'd also imagine the 4S has a better mic system with noise cancellation, etc. Of course, it could be Apple is making it 4S exclusive for purely marketing purposes.
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Not too sure about this. With a Scottish accent voice control soon turns into what can only be called a bout of tourettes to a passer by.
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Originally Posted by Dave K. View Post

It better work as shown in the videos or Apple (and it) will become the butt of many, many jokes...

Even if it does, it's still just a gimmick really. Nothing I want anyway, and I think most of the folks that do want it will have unrealistic expectations of what it can do for them.

I'm still in the seriously underwhelmed camp. There is almost nothing the new iPhone has, outside of perhaps the camera, that I need at all.

I was really hoping for a smaller, cooler looking iPhone to mitigate the fact that it's already more than powerful enough for most peoples needs.
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Is it outdoors as in a city? On a windy day?
With an ambulance passing? Or a fire engine?

I demand this software work in absolutely every single fringe case imaginable otherwise I will deem it a complete failure and perpetually make fun of Apple on forums for creating such tripe.

That's you.

Personally, I'm fine with it even if it doesn't work while I'm standing right underneath a tornado siren. But maybe I'm too lenient.

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As someone already stated, it will not work with any of the current Apple products no matter if you use iOS5. It's unique to the upcoming iPhone 4s.

Yes. But will it work with the iPhone 4?
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The iPhone 4S might have more RAM - I don't think they said either way, but voice recognition is RAM intensive. I'd also imagine the 4S has a better mic system with noise cancellation, etc. Of course, it could be Apple is making it 4S exclusive for purely marketing purposes.

If that's the case, I hope that teaches the apologists who were saying the iPad's RAM stinginess was no big deal. It might not make a big difference at the time, but it often leads to quick obsolescence.
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

I was really hoping for a smaller, cooler looking iPhone to mitigate the fact that it's already more than powerful enough for most peoples needs.

Funny you should say that it's already powerful enough. The rest of the internet is crying because twice as fast isn't good enough.
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Yet another reason to jailbreak my 3-month old iPhone 4. I would like to be able to dictate my text messages while driving

(Oh and FaceTime over 3G)
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Apple should let people chose what their personal assistant looks like and how they speak.

Let's say that I don't like the voice in the demo, and I'd rather have a 19 year old redhead with an English accent to be my personal assistant. I should be able to input those preferences and the voice and tone will adjust accordingly to suit my needs.

Let's say that I want a hot looking African American chick, who is 25 year olds as an assistant the next day. Again, I should be able to input that data, and the voice should adapt to that, changing in accent, timbre and tone.

What if some chick wants a male assistant?

It's still in Beta, so in the future, I expect to see these options included.
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After reading through the comments on AI, BBC and other sites it appears that the main issue that the posters have is that it looks identical to the iPhone 4. Now, this won't matter two hoots to joe public (thats the 19 or so million who bought the iPhone 4 last quarter) but to the tech savvy it appears that you need new devices to look different for poser value.

You can't pull out your new shiny toy to pose with/show off, if it looks like last years model.

Back to Siri. If it works as well as it appears on the BBC video then it will be great using it whilst driving, no more near misses whilst texting (not that I would do such a thing).

One thing that will be a good indicator of future sales will be the Apple quarterly report this month. With news going round that a new iPhone is coming sales should be well down. If, however, sales have not dropped dramatically then the iPhone 4S, 4 and 3G will continue to sell due to the fact that the people buying them obviously have no interest in the internet tech sites and could care less about new technology.
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Originally Posted by iKol View Post

I have absolutely NO desire to talk to my phone...

Because who in the world would want to talk into a phone, right? I mean, that would just be weird... talking into a phone. Who does that?
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A final segment in the video depicts Siri's integration with iOS accessibility features, showing a bind user getting a verbal text notification that she can then respond to and send entirely by voice commands.

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post #30 of 191
Jesus, scanning through these messages and what a bunch of ungrateful vitriol. You'd think Apple just pissed in your Cornflakes.
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As someone already stated, it will not work with any of the current Apple products no matter if you use iOS5. It's unique to the upcoming iPhone 4s.

The feature is obviously unique to the new phone; the question was why? Is it simply an effort on Apple's part to differentiate hardware, or is there a legit technical reason? I'd like to know. I was looking forward to better voice control in iOS 5, and am disappointed that it will not be available.
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Whatever happened to supporting the previous two devices?
This is not fragmentation it's segregation.
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Apple should let people chose what their personal assistant looks like and how they speak.

"Looks like"?

I'd love to at least have Alex be the voice instead of the woman that Windows users of the iPod shuffle get. That's insane.

Heck, I'd love to just have the NUANCE VOICES be selectable. Yes, one would take up a gigabyte. I don't care, Apple. Tell me that and let me decide for myself how I get to use my space.

And why, if the 3rd gen iPod shuffle can handle voice recognition onboard, does Siri REQUIRE an Internet connection?

LET ME CHOOSE whether I want to do it that way or want to fill my device with the software required to do the translation of my voice.

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Because who in the world would want to talk into a phone, right? I mean, that would just be weird... talking into a phone. Who does that?

Canucklehead- do you know the difference between "to" and "into"? There are free dictionary apps available you know- just saying.
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The iPhone 4S might have more RAM - I don't think they said either way, but voice recognition is RAM intensive. I'd also imagine the 4S has a better mic system with noise cancellation, etc. Of course, it could be Apple is making it 4S exclusive for purely marketing purposes.

Same amount of RAM 512MB

See CPU & Memory column.
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Same amount of RAM 512MB

See CPU & Memory column.
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That's just a guess by AI, Apple has not specified that. We'll have to wait for teardowns to know.
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Originally Posted by iKol View Post

I have absolutely NO desire to talk to my phone (been there done that) nor my computer. I expect it to read my thoughts.
I do have a desire to browse the Internet on my flat screen TV on my wall which however ATV will not allow.

Neither do I (except in the conventional sense of course), but my wife does.

She wants it to read to her, help her send messages, find answers on the Internet for her, and many more things she can't currently easily do with her phone. That's because she's blind.

If this things works as advertised, it truly could be a life changer for some people. Apple deserves nothing but kudos for that.
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Originally Posted by tipoo View Post

That's just a guess by AI, Apple has not specified that. We'll have to wait for teardowns to know.

I doubt that it will have more RAM than the iPad 2, and I also wouldn't be surprised if it was slightly underclocked.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

"Looks like"?

Well, I just meant that a sexy voice is going to be associated with belonging to somebody who looks sexy, even though that's not necessarily the case.
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Canucklehead- do you know the difference between "to" and "into"? There are free dictionary apps available you know- just saying.

I do understand the difference. The thing is, I submit that anyone who talks "to" their phone has a few screws loose. Sane people only ever talk "into" their phones. Semantics aside, it was a joke. Chill.
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