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Originally Posted by GalaxyTab View Post

ROFL! Are you really equating smartphone screen size with penile inadequacy?

The lengths some of you lot will go to to defend the 3.5 inch screen on the iPhone is laughable.

I rock a shuffle and the length I would go to is exactly 7 1/2 inches.
post #42 of 245
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Originally Posted by Parkettpolitur View Post

Yes, but at least one that's decently big. Why couldn't Apple put a 4+" screen with 720p in there? The Nexus Prime will have it; Apple could have stolen Google's & Samsung's thunder, but no...

if I want a bigger screen I use the iPad...it is a phone not a TV.

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post #43 of 245
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Originally Posted by GalaxyTab View Post


D: 0.81mm smaller

Looking at my works SGII, 0.81mm smaller, except for the bulge at the bottom and the lens surround!
post #44 of 245
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Originally Posted by jacobo007 View Post

Decently big? If you think a bigger screen is better that is your opinion, a lot of people agree and many others disagree...Apple disagrees as well.

+1

I just don't understand why people want bigger phones!? As far as I'm concerned the iPhone is perfect, after I got used to it. At first, I even thought it was a bit on the big side.

Android 4G phones HAVE to be bigger... current LTE chipsets take up much more room and they suck down more power - they need bigger batteries. People like to accuse Apple of "marketing", and yet here are the OEMs and carriers telling people what a great feature it is to have a bigger screen, when in reality these 4G phones need to be bigger anyway.
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post #45 of 245
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Originally Posted by GalaxyTab View Post

Phones like the SGSII are still pocketable.

SGSII
125.3 x 66.1 x 8.49mm

iPhone 4/4s:
115.2 x 58.7 x 9.3mm

Difference:
L: 10.1mm larger
W: 7.4mm larger
D: 0.81mm smaller

If that difference really does stop these large phones from being pocketable, I'd invest in clothes that actually fit.

How thick is the bulge at the bottom of the Galaxy S2?

Why don't you buy a galaxy S 2 and put a video of you pushing it through an 8.5mm slot on YouTube. (Hint you may need a hammer.)
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post #46 of 245
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Originally Posted by GalaxyTab View Post

ROFL! Are you really equating smartphone screen size with penile inadequacy?

The lengths some of you lot will go to to defend the 3.5 inch screen on the iPhone is laughable.

We're not defending the iPhone's screen size... We just don't understand why people want bigger PHONES!? If Apple thought it was possible (or it made a big enough difference) to put a larger screen in the iPhone without affecting the overall size of the device, they would've done it already.

A larger iPod touch, yeah, I can see that, it's not something you're going to carry around with you all the time. But a phone is something people ALWAYS have with them.
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post #47 of 245
This spec stuff is all a red herring. The iPhone 4 is still the best selling smartphone no matter how out-specced people claim it to be. The iMac is the biggest selling desktop in the US despite being out-specced by others. And so on.
People are not bothered about specifications. They really aren't.
post #48 of 245
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Originally Posted by jason98 View Post

Agree, 4+ edge-to-edge screen and 720p would have been a killer feature.
I am really tired of 3.5" display of my iPhone 4, so much real estate wasted on the bezel and useless home button.

Now all these Androids coming out with HD screens will make me jealous for at least 12 more months before iPhone-5 (6?) arrives.

Why wait LG has already announced one:-

http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_lu6200-4188.php
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post #49 of 245
In fact iPhone can be used as remote control in particular for Samsung TVs. See http://itunes.apple.com/at/app/samsu...359580639?mt=8

Maybe they mean something different.
post #50 of 245
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Originally Posted by hill60 View Post

How thick is the bulge at the bottom of the Galaxy S2?

Why don't you buy a galaxy S 2 and put a video of you pushing it through an 8.5mm slot on YouTube. (Hint you may need a hammer.)

So it's the epic bulge that makes it unpocketable? Those aren't my measurements, just some I got off of a site FYI.

Pedanticalness' aside, the point still stands. It fits in a pocket quite easily unless I'm missing something?

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Originally Posted by mjtomlin View Post

We're not defending the iPhone's screen size... We just don't understand why people want bigger PHONES!? If Apple thought it was possible (or it made a big enough difference) to put a larger screen in the iPhone without affecting the overall size of the device, they would've done it already.

A larger iPod touch, yeah, I can see that, it's not something you're going to carry around with you all the time. But a phone is something people ALWAYS have with them.

Your post does nothing to address this crap:
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Are Android users trying to compensate for something? Such as in other certain areas in which they are perhaps lacking in?

That above is possibly the lamest excuse to justify the 3.5 inch iPhone screen. Do you not agree with that at all?
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post #51 of 245
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Originally Posted by NextTechnocrati View Post

Now that it looks like the iPhone 4S has the underdog status in light of the new "sleeker" models of Android devices that will soon flood the market, the question is will one or two Android device/s finally best the iPhone as the most popular smartphone on the planet? If not, then this will obviosuly be a very huge psychological win for Apple.

Oh wait..the antiquated iPhone 4 (yes the grampa iPHONE 4) is still outselling every newer model Android device on Verizon and ATT.

I'll wait until New Year 2011 and Chinese Spring Holiday 2012 before I make a call.

By the way, what is America, mommy?
post #52 of 245
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Originally Posted by mjtomlin View Post

We're not defending the iPhone's screen size... We just don't understand why people want bigger PHONES!? If Apple thought it was possible (or it made a big enough difference) to put a larger screen in the iPhone without affecting the overall size of the device, they would've done it already.

A larger iPod touch, yeah, I can see that, it's not something you're going to carry around with you all the time. But a phone is something people ALWAYS have with them.

Age maybe? When you hit 60+ like newbee does you will understand. I lean toward 4.3" LG Optimus 2 because of my eyesight as well.

There are only so many things you could do before you need a bigger screen.

If newbee is still around and arthritis hasn't take his hands away, he might admit he has already abandoned iPhone and use iPad to post to us. And now he has a small backpack with him whenever he goes.
post #53 of 245
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Originally Posted by GalaxyTab View Post

So it's the epic bulge that makes it unpocketable? Those aren't my measurements, just some I got off of a site FYI.

Pedanticalness' aside, the point still stands. It fits in a pocket quite easily unless I'm missing something?



Your post does nothing to address this crap:


That above is possibly the lamest excuse to justify the 3.5 inch iPhone screen. Do you not agree with that at all?

Sure, it'll fit in most pockets. But I think most people would find it obtrusive.
post #54 of 245
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Originally Posted by Doctor David View Post

Sure, it'll fit in most pockets. But I think most people would find it obtrusive.

Buy a man purse!
post #55 of 245
This was somewhat petty. Almost as petty as apple claiming other phones had the same 'deathgrip' problem the 4 had at launch...

Honestly its perfectly suitable for Samsung to feel their product is superior, but you look like you're scared when you do this and cant even bother to highlight something when another product is superior. (as have been shown in many previous posts the 4S wins a handful of these categories outright like resolution and exterior camera button, and some are jokes...see Gingerbread and remote control)
post #56 of 245
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Originally Posted by fila97 View Post

It's the software, stupid.

It's the gigahertzs and the megapixels and the gigawatts.

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post #57 of 245
Its a shame that such a well specified piece of hardware has to run Android, Samsung should take a leaf out of Amazons book and fork their own version and replace all of the interfaces with their own look and feel so that all of the OS is uniform (just try to be original and not copy the iPhone). The S2 is certainly slimmer apart from the camera and bottom which make it 9.5mm thick but you can't help wonder how thin the iPhone would be if it were taller and wider like the S2.

The HD version of the S2 has a 326 dpi display and looks cracking, maybe Samsung should have bought Palm a year ago.
post #58 of 245
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Originally Posted by Doctor David View Post

Sure, it'll fit in most pockets. But I think most people would find it obtrusive.

I take it these people whom find it obtrusive are also against wallets too as they're normally thicker and wider than both the iPhone and SGSII?

I think people here are being deliberately obtuse to support their flawed arguements but given the audience, I should expect this.
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post #59 of 245
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Samsung takes stab at iPhone 4S with Galaxy S II comparison sheet
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Real stab might begin in France and Italy soon. It is already in the news
post #60 of 245
Let's take that in order:

- processor -> Samsung is forgetting to tell us that the A5 in the iPhone 4S blows way the Galaxy S II in 3D performance. This is just not comparable...

- 4G? -> Well Samsung is forgetting us to tell us that this is basically useless given the low coverage right now, and oh!, what about your battery being sucked up when the user use 4G? That's why maybe you need to do refrigerator smartphones....you need biiiiiiiiig batteries.

- Super AMOLED -> Yeah Samsung great, it just that I can't see much on your screens when I use them outside. Plus why the hell do your screens degrade so fast???

- Screen Size -> Oops, Samsung just forgot to say us that the iPhone 4S has 46% more pixels.....

- Cameras -> You can be sure that the iPhone 4S rear camera is way better, but Samsung of course does not tell you that. It instead says that the front camera of the Galaxy S II is better, which nobody cares particularly when Samsung phones don't have something as good as FaceTime.

- 1080p high profile -> What? Give me a break....

- Photo/Video editing -> Yes sure, try to find a iMovie class video editor or even a simple good one on Android, they all suck....

- Weight -> Samsung, you know, cheap and crappy plastic weights less than glass and stainless steel. Which means that the iPhone 4S weights a little bit more than the Galaxy S II but at least it looks and feels in the hand damn good...

- Dimensions -> Samsung, you did it again... Your phone is not thinner, you've lost the case on the question in UK. You've lost, just let it go.

- Removable battery -> For what, is that because your battery sucks so much that the user needs to replace them often.

- Voice activation -> Wait, is Samsung comparing Vlingo to Siri? Crazy you Samsung....

- Content Store -> It just happened that the App Store is the best store out there, period. But Samsung wants you to know that on its phones, you have the choice of multiple stores selling you malwares....

- Syncing -> iTunes Software requires with the iPhone 4S, you screwed it up Samsung. You forgot that iOS 5 supports wireless syncing and oh, how it comes you forgot that your phones lack something as awesome as iCloud?

- Use of smartphone as HDTV remote control -> wait, a remote control? You are out of your mind, its 21st century, the iPhone 4s does Airplay, and it is just awesome...

- Carrier availability -> Right no T-Mobile, but yeah you need to be on all of them to hope to sell a fraction of the number of iPhones that Apple sell.

- OS -> Latest version of Gingerbread? Are we talking about the same old and retarded OS? Come on, you can't be serious, I mean, you've got on the other side iOS 5, how a hell you came to compare Gingerbread with iOS 5?

- Memory -> No external storage on the iPhone 4S? So what? You need anyway expensive external storage to match the storage available in the iPhone 4S something that people don't really do once they bought you crappy phones. And oh by the way, you forgot to say that your phones don't support 64 GB of storage.... whatever the external storage supported by your phone.

- pricing ->No memory limitation? What? Where? How? Of course you have because if a user wants to match the same storage of the iPhone 4S, they need to pay more for a final price slightly cheaper than the iPhone with comparable storage. But you don't get the build quality, the faster graphics, iOS 5, and the list is veryyyyyyy long.
post #61 of 245
Very disappointed. I need to upgrade my phone soon and was waiting to see the iPhone 5. I'm not that bothered about screen resolution but I do want a larger screeen. Sadly for an Apple fan like me the Samsung Galaxy is looking very tempting right now.
post #62 of 245
iPhones now cover all the price points.

Free for iPhone 3GS (8 GB)

$99 for iPhone 4 (8 GB)

$199 for iPhone 4S (16 GB)

Make no mistake, this is brutal and will clobber all other smart phones.

Time will tell.
post #63 of 245
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Originally Posted by Parkettpolitur View Post

Yes, but at least one that's decently big. Why couldn't Apple put a 4+" screen with 720p in there? The Nexus Prime will have it; Apple could have stolen Google's & Samsung's thunder, but no...

why would you want big screen? seriously, do you want to have a handbag all the time with you? i don't get these requests, if you need larger screen get a tablet/laptop. i don't want bigger phone, colleagues at work have these 4" phones they are horrid!!!!
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Originally Posted by simtub View Post

Yup 1280x720 is lovely but it will also further fragment the fragmented

Yeah, imagine using that app that you love and having black borders on the top and bottom OR elongated buttons!
post #66 of 245
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Originally Posted by mdriftmeyer View Post

Most folks using the Apple Ecosystem use theirs with their AppleTV

Ha.

Pretty much nobody has an Apple TV.
post #67 of 245
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Originally Posted by Saldog View Post

Take the iPad: we would be looking at iPad 3 right now if they didn't have such an overwhelming market share. This means they can take their time and make sure iPad 3 is not a minor step like iPad 2 was.

They took their time with the iPhone, and all they came up with was a minor step.
post #68 of 245
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Originally Posted by snova View Post

if it was about HW, Nokia would still be king.

True, I like Nokia rubber boots above all!
post #69 of 245
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Originally Posted by Apple ][ View Post

a ridiculously larged sized phone which can't really be used for anything useful

That is not a description of the Galaxy S II
post #70 of 245
Wait now, which GSII's are getting the 1.5GHz Exynos SoC? Last I saw they were all the 1.2GHz variant?
post #71 of 245
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Originally Posted by Shaun, UK View Post

Very disappointed. I need to upgrade my phone soon and was waiting to see the iPhone 5. I'm not that bothered about screen resolution but I do want a larger screeen. Sadly for an Apple fan like me the Samsung Galaxy is looking very tempting right now.

I think you should get that plastic droidy thingy then. Nobody cares.
post #72 of 245
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Originally Posted by sflocal View Post

Samsung's lower-resolution screen, using AMOLED which is prone to burn-in and loss of color quickly, weighs less due to using plastic instead of metal/glass, using an OS that is prone to weekly malware/bot attacks and needs to be babysat in a way only a tech-head or nerd can do is somehow more preferred than an iPhone? Does that sum it up?

Spot on.
post #73 of 245
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You know Apple will scream bloody murder. Apple considers all other company's patents to be F/RAND Patents, but the ones Apple owns are not and thus warrant injunctions on competing products.

Link: Apple reinforces its FRAND counterclaims against Samsung (and Motorola Mobility)
post #74 of 245
When you are selling all the phones you can make, there's no need to change anything. iPhone 4S is a solid evolutionary upgrade, the right phone for the right time. Good job Apple,

Apple shares at $580 soon come mon?
post #75 of 245
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Originally Posted by snova View Post

we worked so hard to get pocketable phones.. we went from the SHOE sized phones of the 80s to tiny phones like the Razr.. now we are going backwards again? wtf?

The original iPhone had a big, beautiful screen compared with most other phones at the time. Look at the BB and the Palm Treo at the time.

But that was a long time ago.
post #76 of 245
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Originally Posted by Dunks View Post

My thoughts exactly. The galaxy is only 800x480 pixels. "58% more surface area" is something I would consider a negative feature of a display if the pixel density is not the same.

Do you consider it a negative feature of the iPad?
post #77 of 245
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Originally Posted by kresh View Post

After yesterday's keynote featuring the iPhone 4S (iPhone 4 Suckers), it is plain to see that Apple has for the past year forgone innovating and instead spent all their time litigating.

Apple could have spent 16 months putting together a phone to compete and win hearts and minds. Instead they spec bump and sue everyone that breathes.

I wonder if the trolls really believe that by repeating the same lies over and over that people will eventually believe them?

The new phone is significantly improved in almost every regard. The only things unchanged are the case and screen - and both of those are world class. The new phone has:
- Greatly improved CPU and GPU performance
- World phone capability
- Improved antenna
- Significantly improved camera
- Voice recognition that looks like it beats anything out there
- Substantial software improvements
- Higher maximum storage capacity
- And more

How much does Google pay you to spread lies?

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Originally Posted by kotatsu View Post

Not for long. The Google Nexus Prime is due very soon and will have a 4.5" 1280x720 screen.

You're welcome to buy a phone with a 10" screen if you want it. I don't - and Apple has apparently found that few people really do. After all, the #1 and #2 phones on the planet have 3.5" screens.
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post #78 of 245
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Originally Posted by jragosta View Post

I wonder if the trolls really believe that by repeating the same lies over and over that people will eventually believe them?

How much does Google pay you to spread lies?

Wow, you found me out. Google hired me in 2005 to join AI and troll in 2011.

The truth is I was a huge Apple Computer, Inc. fan - now I despise the company Apple has become. They are worse than Microsoft ever was.
post #79 of 245
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Originally Posted by Hakime View Post

Let's take that in order:

- processor -> Samsung is forgetting to tell us that the A5 in the iPhone 4S blows way the Galaxy S II in 3D performance. This is just not comparable...

- 4G? -> Well Samsung is forgetting us to tell us that this is basically useless given the low coverage right now, and oh!, what about your battery being sucked up when the user use 4G? That's why maybe you need to do refrigerator smartphones....you need biiiiiiiiig batteries.

- Super AMOLED -> Yeah Samsung great, it just that I can't see much on your screens when I use them outside. Plus why the hell do your screens degrade so fast???

- Screen Size -> Oops, Samsung just forgot to say us that the iPhone 4S has 46% more pixels.....

- Cameras -> You can be sure that the iPhone 4S rear camera is way better, but Samsung of course does not tell you that. It instead says that the front camera of the Galaxy S II is better, which nobody cares particularly when Samsung phones don't have something as good as FaceTime.

- 1080p high profile -> What? Give me a break....

- Photo/Video editing -> Yes sure, try to find a iMovie class video editor or even a simple good one on Android, they all suck....

- Weight -> Samsung, you know, cheap and crappy plastic weights less than glass and stainless steel. Which means that the iPhone 4S weights a little bit more than the Galaxy S II but at least it looks and feels in the hand damn good...

- Dimensions -> Samsung, you did it again... Your phone is not thinner, you've lost the case on the question in UK. You've lost, just let it go.

- Removable battery -> For what, is that because your battery sucks so much that the user needs to replace them often.

- Voice activation -> Wait, is Samsung comparing Vlingo to Siri? Crazy you Samsung....

- Content Store -> It just happened that the App Store is the best store out there, period. But Samsung wants you to know that on its phones, you have the choice of multiple stores selling you malwares....

- Syncing -> iTunes Software requires with the iPhone 4S, you screwed it up Samsung. You forgot that iOS 5 supports wireless syncing and oh, how it comes you forgot that your phones lack something as awesome as iCloud?

- Use of smartphone as HDTV remote control -> wait, a remote control? You are out of your mind, its 21st century, the iPhone 4s does Airplay, and it is just awesome...

- Carrier availability -> Right no T-Mobile, but yeah you need to be on all of them to hope to sell a fraction of the number of iPhones that Apple sell.

- OS -> Latest version of Gingerbread? Are we talking about the same old and retarded OS? Come on, you can't be serious, I mean, you've got on the other side iOS 5, how a hell you came to compare Gingerbread with iOS 5?

- Memory -> No external storage on the iPhone 4S? So what? You need anyway expensive external storage to match the storage available in the iPhone 4S something that people don't really do once they bought you crappy phones. And oh by the way, you forgot to say that your phones don't support 64 GB of storage.... whatever the external storage supported by your phone.

- pricing ->No memory limitation? What? Where? How? Of course you have because if a user wants to match the same storage of the iPhone 4S, they need to pay more for a final price slightly cheaper than the iPhone with comparable storage. But you don't get the build quality, the faster graphics, iOS 5, and the list is veryyyyyyy long.

- Grapes -> Not sour? Oh yes they are!
post #80 of 245
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Originally Posted by AppleSauce007 View Post

Make no mistake, this is brutal and will clobber all other smart phones.

Time will tell.

Even if Apple were to suddenly DOUBLE the amount of all the different iPhones it sells, it would not even match the various Android phones, much less clobber them.

But does that matter? Why not just be happy with your iPhone? Why do you feel any need to clobber anything?
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