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Before iPhone 4S preorders begin this Friday just after midnight Pacific Time, some customers can check their eligibility for discounted upgrade pricing through Apple's official website.

The newly announced iPhone 4S will be available next Friday, Oct. 14 starting at 8 a.m. local time. But customers will be able to reserve the phone a week ahead of time, starting this Friday at 12:01 a.m. Pacific, 3:01 a.m. Eastern.

In order to simplify the buying process, Apple is offering customers the ability to check eligibility for a discounted upgrade with their current carrier. Some customers may qualify for the maximum subsidy with a new service contract, placing the iPhone 4S at a starting price of $199 for the 16GB model.

Those eligible for upgrade pricing also have options in the 32GB iPhone 4S for $299, and the new high-end 64GB model priced at $399 with subsidy. All models are available in both black and white.

In the U.S., customers can currently check their upgrade eligibility with AT&T and Verizon, the two largest wireless providers in the nation. The ability to check with Sprint, which is the latest carrier to partner with Apple to carry the iPhone, is advertised as "coming soon."

Sporting Apple's speedy A5 dual-core processor, the iPhone 4S is the only way to experience Siri, Apple's new voice command and recognition software. Using natural language, users can execute complex tasks handsfree, doing activities like checking weather and traffic, composing an e-mail or a text message, or adding an appointment to a calendar.

The iPhone 4S sports the same design as its predecessor, the iPhone 4, but adds a new 8-megapixel camera and redesigned camera architecture that allow for even higher quality photos. The iPhone 4S features 1080p high-definition video with image stabilization, and a custom f2.4 lens with an advanced hybrid IR filter. Images are captured at a resolution of 3,264-by-2,448 pixels.



The iPhone 4S will launch on Oct. 14 in the U.S., Australia, Canada, France, Germany, Japan, and the U.K. It will be available from the Apple Online Store, Apple's retail stores, and through AT&T, Sprint, Verizon Wireless and select Apple Authorized Resellers in the U.S.

Apple has planned a speedy international rollout of the iPhone 4S, which means customers around the world won't have to wait as long for Apple's newest smartphone. The iPhone 4S is planned to debut in 22 more countries by the end of October, including Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Mexico, Netherlands, Norway, Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden and Switzerland.
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Need more clarification from AT&T/Apple whether ALL early adopters of the iPhone 4 will get an early upgrade for the 4s.
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One thing for sure, there won't be a shortage this time round

Btw, why don't I see the iPhone on Sprint's website? I thought they were carrying it now.
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Need more clarification from AT&T/Apple whether ALL early adopters of the iPhone 4 will get an early upgrade for the 4s.

Got my iPhone 4 last June and the upgrade eligibility check says I'm eligible for the full discounted price after only 15 months. I was surprised to see this considering it hasn't even been a year and a half yet. Looks like AT&T is anxious to lock me in for another 2 years (which I'm ok with).
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Got my iPhone 4 last June and the upgrade eligibility check says I'm eligible for the full discounted price after only 15 months. I was surprised to see this considering it hasn't even been a year and a half yet. Looks like AT&T is anxious to lock me in for another 2 years (which I'm ok with).

This reminds me, I should be out of contract in 3 months. Sweet! I could get a 4G phone now that android is more mature. I bet they'll have those quad core jobbies out by the time my iPhone4 breaks.
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So can I sign up to have my phone shipped to me and avoid AT&T lines, but still get it on Friday? Never tried the shipping method before, and the idiots at AT&T annoy me. But I don't want Apple people messing with my AT&T account.
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One thing for sure, there won't be a shortage this time round

Btw, why don't I see the iPhone on Sprint's website? I thought they were carrying it now.

They bet the farm on iphone... haven't you heard? this lackluster iphone release will save sprint. it's extra evident by the complete lapse of any mention or promotion during any of the iphone news yesterday.
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So can I sign up to have my phone shipped to me and avoid AT&T lines, but still get it on Friday? Never tried the shipping method before, and the idiots at AT&T annoy me. But I don't want Apple people messing with my AT&T account.

Worked just fine for me last time.
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One thing for sure, there won't be a shortage this time round

Btw, why don't I see the iPhone on Sprint's website? I thought they were carrying it now.

Either that or Sprint isn't really getting the iPhone 4 or 4S until later... which I hope not. I also hope that they'll bump my eligibility up so I can get one now.
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This is the first time I'm planning to preorder an iPhone.

I've already verified my eligibility on Apple's site. But I'm confused on the details for preorder. Apple store employees don't seem to know much about the online preorder process. so please help me:

1. I want to know what details Apple will ask me on Oct 7th when i pre-order
will they ask for credit card info ? or is it billed through the ATT a/c ?
will they do a credit check ?

2. I want to upgrade 2 lines out of 4 lines in my family plan (both are eligible for upgrade).
Does Apple's preorder system allow this ?

3. Does Apple's pre-order process allow shipping each of my 2 orders to different states ? (my brother is not in my state)

4. How long will it take to reach me ? could it take as long as a week to deliver ? it seems like shipping is free though, correct ?
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I bought my iPhone 4 the very first day it went on sale last year. AT&T says the iPhone 4S will cost $449 until November 25th. I think the 4S is awesome but I am going to skip this generation. It will be the first model of iPhone I havent owned. Upgrading the iPhone 4 with iOS5/iCloud gives me essentially a brand-new phone for free.

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Anyone know what time pre orders starts over in the UK on Friday the 7th?
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Need more clarification from AT&T/Apple whether ALL early adopters of the iPhone 4 will get an early upgrade for the 4s.

Why?

Any individual can check on either Apple or AT&T's web site. Why would you care whether someone else might get an upgrade?

For me, when I checked a few weeks ago, I was told I wouldn't be entitled to a discounted upgrade until mid-November. When I checked yesterday and today, it's telling me I can get a discounted upgrade today - so something must have changed.
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Need more clarification from AT&T/Apple whether ALL early adopters of the iPhone 4 will get an early upgrade for the 4s.

Of course not. You can upgrade early, but you will pay a much higher cost.
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Originally Posted by Rob55 View Post

Got my iPhone 4 last June and the upgrade eligibility check says I'm eligible for the full discounted price after only 15 months. I was surprised to see this considering it hasn't even been a year and a half yet. Looks like AT&T is anxious to lock me in for another 2 years (which I'm ok with).

Are you on AT&T (seems so) and are you the main account holder? If so, you automatically are able to upgrade after 14 months to any phone. Only the secondary phones on an account must wait 20 months to do an upgrade.
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This is the first time I'm planning to preorder an iPhone.

I've already verified my eligibility on Apple's site. But I'm confused on the details for preorder. Apple store employees don't seem to know much about the online preorder process. so please help me:

1. I want to know what details Apple will ask me on Oct 7th when i pre-order
will they ask for credit card info ? or is it billed through the ATT a/c ?
will they do a credit check ?

2. I want to upgrade 2 lines out of 4 lines in my family plan (both are eligible for upgrade).
Does Apple's preorder system allow this ?

3. Does Apple's pre-order process allow shipping each of my 2 orders to different states ? (my brother is not in my state)

4. How long will it take to reach me ? could it take as long as a week to deliver ? it seems like shipping is free though, correct ?

1. The standard information you need to upgrade/buy a phone.
2. If not, just make two (2) separate orders.
3. Most likely not. Most retailers are strict about shipping to alternative address. You might be able to register that address with Apple. Call them.
4. No longer than a week unless it is back ordered. People last time got their phones in a couple of days. I think some got them the day they were available in the stores.
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They bet the farm on iphone... haven't you heard? this lackluster iphone release will save sprint. it's extra evident by the complete lapse of any mention or promotion during any of the iphone news yesterday.


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I bought my iPhone 4 the very first day it went on sale last year. AT&T says the iPhone 4S will cost $449 until November 25th. I think the 4S is awesome but I am gong to skip this generation. It will be the first model of iPhone I havent owned.

I found the same 11/25 date on mine too. I also bought on launch day last year. The 11/25 date is silly really. Another way for AT&T to gash early adopters/"loyal" customers. AT&T really does try hard to lose customers. My guess is most every one who bought on launch day last year are in the same boat. If that's true, expect a bunch of articles from the tech media about it (since it affects them too).
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I found the same 11/25 date on mine too. I also bought on launch day last year. The 11/25 date is silly really. Another way for AT&T to gash early adopters/"loyal" customers. AT&T really does try hard to lose customers. My guess is most every one who bought on launch day last year are in the same boat. If that's true, expect a bunch of articles from the tech media about it (since it affects them too).

The fun part of the 11/25 date which I also ended up with is Black Friday
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What about those of us who are "Grandfathered" into unlimited data with AT&T? If we upgrade online through Apple's website, will we still be able to keep that unlimited data?
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What about those of us who are "Grandfathered" into unlimited data with AT&T? If we upgrade online through Apple's website, will we still be able to keep that unlimited data?

The story (so far) is customers with unlimited plans on both AT&T and Verizon will be able to keep their unlimited plan while upgrading at the subsidized price. That could change at any moment, and believe me, you'll hear about it if they ever do.

For now, as long as you're a current customer with the plan, you'll keep it.
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post #22 of 49
With two kids, I will be up at midnight anyways so I will be awake to preorder two iPhone 4S'.
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I found the same 11/25 date on mine too. I also bought on launch day last year. The 11/25 date is silly really. Another way for AT&T to gash early adopters/"loyal" customers. AT&T really does try hard to lose customers. My guess is most every one who bought on launch day last year are in the same boat. If that's true, expect a bunch of articles from the tech media about it (since it affects them too).

You're wrong. I bought AFTER launch day and am eligible for an upgrade today. It has to do partially with how much you spend.

As for AT&T gouging customers, did you read the contract you signed? Under your contract, AT&T doesn't have to discount another upgrade for TWO YEARS (i.e., next June for early adopters). They're allowing you to upgrade 6 months early (that is, they've only recovered 18 months of service fees rather than the 24 that the contract is based on). How are they ripping you off?
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You're wrong. I bought AFTER launch day and am eligible for an upgrade today. It has to do partially with how much you spend.


It definitely does. I bought my IP4 about 4 months after it was released. When I confirmed whether or not my phones qualified for the upgrade to IP5's the sales rep chuckled and said "Definitely".

But I also have 3 phones on my plan and have have been with them since IP1.
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You're wrong. I bought AFTER launch day and am eligible for an upgrade today. It has to do partially with how much you spend.

As for AT&T gouging customers, did you read the contract you signed? Under your contract, AT&T doesn't have to discount another upgrade for TWO YEARS (i.e., next June for early adopters). They're allowing you to upgrade 6 months early (that is, they've only recovered 18 months of service fees rather than the 24 that the contract is based on). How are they ripping you off?

Perhaps you misunderstood. I did not say "upgrade". I am eligible for an upgrade. I was referring to the subsidized price. It makes no business sense and seems just a bit silly to make loyal customers wait a little over a month for the subsidized price. For all of the previous launches they gave most the subsidized price at the start. I know I always received it without saying a word. I've been a AT&T customer for over 10 years, they never lost a dime in profit long term from my account because they moved up the availability of the subsidized price.
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What about those of us who are "Grandfathered" into unlimited data with AT&T? If we upgrade online through Apple's website, will we still be able to keep that unlimited data?

Yes, just call AT&T or go to an AT&T store. They will look up your status as being grandfathered and will give you the correct unlimited data plan. I have already done this once.
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Perhaps you misunderstood. I did not say "upgrade". I am eligible for an upgrade. I was referring to the subsidized price. It makes no business sense and seems just a bit silly to make loyal customers wait a little over a month for the subsidized price. For all of the previous launches they gave most the subsidized price at the start. I know I always received it without saying a word. I've been a AT&T customer for over 10 years, they never lost a dime in profit long term from my account because they moved up the availability of the subsidized price.

When I said 'upgrade', I was referring to a subsidized upgrade.

What part of my post didn't you understand? You signed an agreement when you got a discounted iPhone 4 that said that you would not be able to get a subsidized upgrade until you had paid for 24 months of service. AT&T is allowing you to get a subsidized upgrade after paying for less than 24 months (anywhere between 14 and 18 months as near as I can tell). How are they ripping you off by giving you another subsidy before you've met your contractual obligation for the last one?

The other thing you don't seem to comprehend is that AT&T pays a large price for the iPhone that they delivered to you. I don't know the exact amount, but it's far more than the $199 you paid. So, they have to recover that excess cost from your contract fees. Let's say that they paid $599. That means that they need to collect enough money from you to pay for your phone service PLUS recover the $400 difference. Until they've recovered that money, they're not going to let you upgrade. And that explains why some people get to upgrade in 14 months while others have to wait 18. The more you pay, the sooner AT&T recovers its initial investment.
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When I said 'upgrade', I was referring to a subsidized upgrade.

What part of my post didn't you understand? You signed an agreement when you got a discounted iPhone 4 that said that you would not be able to get a subsidized upgrade until you had paid for 24 months of service. AT&T is allowing you to get a subsidized upgrade after paying for less than 24 months (anywhere between 14 and 18 months as near as I can tell). How are they ripping you off by giving you another subsidy before you've met your contractual obligation for the last one?

The other thing you don't seem to comprehend is that AT&T pays a large price for the iPhone that they delivered to you. I don't know the exact amount, but it's far more than the $199 you paid. So, they have to recover that excess cost from your contract fees. Let's say that they paid $599. That means that they need to collect enough money from you to pay for your phone service PLUS recover the $400 difference. Until they've recovered that money, they're not going to let you upgrade. And that explains why some people get to upgrade in 14 months while others have to wait 18. The more you pay, the sooner AT&T recovers its initial investment.

I fully understand. I guess I can't have an opinion without being attacked. Wow. I hope you have a better day.
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My eligibility is November 18th and I pre-ordered my iPhone 4 that night it became available online at like 3:00am EST. I haven't been the best this past year of paying AT&T right on time (a few days past the marked due date to coincide with pay day) so I wonder if that is why I am not eligible right away.
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This reminds me, I should be out of contract in 3 months. Sweet! I could get a 4G phone now that android is more mature. I bet they'll have those quad core jobbies out by the time my iPhone4 breaks.

Android phone 4g or not they are awfully slow and the software is terrible + the phone quality is poor across all brands

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post #31 of 49
Those of you who own the 4 you should be patient. iPhone 5 will likely appear in April - June of next year. I bet they had some last minute hiccup which prevented them from launching it yesterday. That means that they should be able to fix it relatively quickly and launch it sometime Q2 of next year. Obviously they could launch it in Q1 but but then people who bought 4S will be up in arms. So look for the iPhone 5 at the very latest, in June.

That's when I'm planning to upgrade my 4.
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I'm in. Siri did for me. All things considered, I would be Ok with my 4 and iOS5, but Siri will streamline so much for me. I'm eligible for whatever upgrade I want so I'm there!

Just sold the 4 too for $400. I'm good.
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Those of you who own the 4 you should be patient. iPhone 5 will likely appear in April - June of next year. I bet they had some last minute hiccup which prevented them from launching it yesterday. That means that they should be able to fix it relatively quickly and launch it sometime Q2 of next year. Obviously they could launch it in Q1 but but then people who bought 4S will be up in arms. So look for the iPhone 5 at the very latest, in June.

That's when I'm planning to upgrade my 4.

I guess it's not obvious that Apple held onto the upgrade to be able to launch iCloud, iOS 5 and the phone together, so that you get a brand new experience right out of the gate without having to wait for these services a few months apart.
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Either that or Sprint isn't really getting the iPhone 4 or 4S until later... which I hope not. I also hope that they'll bump my eligibility up so I can get one now.

Ahhh... or maybe Sprint did bet the farm on the iPhone 5 and not the 4S
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Out of curiosity, for those of you who got the iPhone 4 on launch day and are already eligible for the fully subsidized $199 for the 16GB on AT&T, how much is your monthly bill? I got my iPhone 4 on launch day and I'm not eligible until Feb, 2012. I'm on a family plan that spends ~$250/mo, but am not the primary phone. I noticed that some of you said only the primary phone is eligible for an earlier upgrade, is there any way I can have my phone moved to the "primary phone" temporarily (or permanently, if it doesn't really matter) to get the early subsidized upgrade?
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Like most of you I bought my iPhone 4 on launch day ( I working at the Apple Store at the time) I checked my upgrade eligibilty and it also said 11/25/2011. I just spoke to an AT&T representative and I had explained to her my situation she said it was policy to be eligible for an upgrade every 20 months, and that for an early upgrade it would be $449 when I told her about my friend being eligible for the $199 ( He purchased the phone same day as me) she didn't know how to respond. I then asked her the termination fee and informed that it was only $175. The way I see it is that it would be cheaper for me to cancel my ATT plan and go to Verizon
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I fully understand. I guess I can't have an opinion without being attacked. Wow. I hope you have a better day.

No one attacked you. You posted an inane comment (repeatedly) and I explained why AT&T does it the way they do.
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what's better get on a list at att or buy from apple
what gets you the phone faster
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post #39 of 49
I have bought all previous iPhones on launch day. Never paid late and up until 6 months ago had a greater than $100 monthly bill.

I switched companies and get a better FAN discount and my monthly bill is $99.87 each month.

My upgrade date is February 19, 2012!

Not exactly the way to engender loyalty in customers for AT&T. Here I am willing to fork out cash for 2 new phones, commit to 2 more years and they are preventing this.

Bad form.
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I found the same 11/25 date on mine too. I also bought on launch day last year. The 11/25 date is silly really. Another way for AT&T to gash early adopters/"loyal" customers. AT&T really does try hard to lose customers. My guess is most every one who bought on launch day last year are in the same boat. If that's true, expect a bunch of articles from the tech media about it (since it affects them too).
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what's better get on a list at att or buy from apple
what gets you the phone faster

I would go with Apple. AT&T customer service at 3am/Midnight isn't going to be a happy place.
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