Google, Samsung cancel phone launch event out of respect for Steve Jobs - Page 2

Originally Posted by LogicNReason

I love how people immediately assume this has an ulterior motive. I'm disappointed. These two company's may have been at war with each other in the market, but they are still run by people. This reminds me of something tragic that just happened to the University of Michigan Marching Band. Understand that I'm a member of The Ohio State Marching Band, and the only reason I'm even spelling that state's name is out of respect. One of their band members died in a car accident. Now, for those of you who don't understand the OSU-UM rivalry, I'll try and sum it up for you. I hate that state. I hate everything about them. I hate the colors Maize and Blue. I'd rather be punched in the balls than listen to Hail To the Victors. A female wearing that jersey is just as disgusting as one that smokes (I'm a non-smoker). When we march into Ann Arbor, the band has as many security guard and snipers (yeah, snipers \) as the president giving a speech...We still get charged at. Essentially, we hate each other. That being said, when we learned of this kids death, we essentially ended practice early out of respect. We sent a few of our own to personally talk to their band to let them know that we feel their pain. I know some of you probably don't care, but after experiencing this just last week (seriously, look it up), I have a better understanding of what Google/Samsung are doing. Death is much bigger than you and I.

tl;dr: People are capable of being great.
tl;dr2: Muck Fichigan.

Originally Posted by solipsism

1) I don't buy it. I'd say the most likely answer is that there are continued issues with ICS that are causing delays and they are using Steve Jobs death to save face. If that is the case that then is despicable, though not out of character for both Samsung and Google.

2) Apple isn't pushing back it's iOS 5.0 or iPhone 4S launch because of Steve Jobs's death, so why would Samsung or Google delay?

Originally Posted by Gatorguy

IMO, many of the comments the past couple of days whenever Samsung/Google/Microsoft/"other" competitors are mentioned is evidence that some people just can't let go of the hate and distrust for even a couple of days. Steve Jobs was no typical CEO, and didn't have the typical influence over the rest of the industry he was involved in. I don't know why some here are always looking for evil, as tho that's what Steve Jobs would do. Much more likely Google is truly delaying the release simply to avoid any sense that they're interfering with Apple and the proper respect due Steve Jobs.

Just let it all go for a few days. It will be a refreshing change.

Originally Posted by Gatorguy

IMO, many of the comments the past couple of days whenever Samsung/Google/Microsoft/"other" competitors are mentioned is evidence that some people just can't let go of the hate and distrust for even a couple of days. Steve Jobs was no typical CEO, and didn't have the typical influence over the rest of the industry he was involved in. I don't know why some here are always looking for evil, as tho that's what Steve Jobs would do. Much more likely Google is truly delaying the release simply to avoid any sense that they're interfering with Apple and the proper respect due Steve Jobs.

Just let it all go for a few days. It will be a refreshing change.

Originally Posted by ConradJoe

All this anthropomorphizing of corporations is bizarre.

Originally Posted by stelligent

For those who smell fish (or smell like it), consider this:

Sergey Brin and Larry Page have been unabashed admirers of Steve Jobs, well before Jobs was sick. The respect they have for the man may be equal to that of most Apple fans. Despite Steve Jobs' reported anger toward Google and particularly Eric Schmidt, Schmidt has said nothing but kind words even well before Jobs' death. In some ways, the GooglePlex has lost a hero too, a source of inspiration.

Of course, we will never know anyone's true motive. But, in the absence of certainty, why not choose the more positive scenario and be happy? Being a cynic whenever possible does not make one more intelligent. It just makes you more cynical.

Originally Posted by solipsism

Evil? It's not good or evil, it's business. Stopping a product because someone died simply doesn't make sense from a business perspective unless there are other business-realted reasons involved. Apple didn't stop their event when Jobs was on his death bed. Apple isn't stopping the preorders and releases of products because Jobs passed away. Last time I checked Apple is a lot closer to Jobs than some Ice Cream Sandwich OS update.

Originally Posted by Gatorguy


Just let it all go for a few days. It will be a refreshing change.

Originally Posted by Gatorguy

Since you would claim they're lying, why would anyone read "good" into your comments Solipsism? Again, there's no reason to believe anything other than what they said. I think Mr. Jobs would rather see the animosity disappear for at least a few days. That's one of the best ways to show your respect for him IMHO.

Steve Jobs, the pioneer of the computer as a jail made cool, designed to sever fools from their freedom, has died.

As Chicago Mayor Harold Washington said of the corrupt former Mayor Daley, "I'm not glad he's dead, but I'm glad he's gone." Nobody deserves to have to die - not Jobs, not Mr. Bill, not even people guilty of bigger evils than theirs. But we all deserve the end of Jobs' malign influence on people's computing.

Unfortunately, that influence continues despite his absence. We can only hope his successors, as they attempt to carry on his legacy, will be less effective.

Originally Posted by LogicNReason

I love how people immediately assume this has an ulterior motive. I'm disappointed. These two company's may have been at war with each other in the market, but they are still run by people. This reminds me of something tragic that just happened to the University of Michigan Marching Band. Understand that I'm a member of The Ohio State Marching Band, and the only reason I'm even spelling that state's name is out of respect. One of their band members died in a car accident. Now, for those of you who don't understand the OSU-UM rivalry, I'll try and sum it up for you. I hate that state. I hate everything about them. I hate the colors Maize and Blue. I'd rather be punched in the balls than listen to Hail To the Victors. A female wearing that jersey is just as disgusting as one that smokes (I'm a non-smoker). When we march into Ann Arbor, the band and our team has as many security guards and snipers (yeah, snipers \) as the president giving a speech...We still get charged at and I've gotten a black eye from being assaulted while leaving. Essentially, we hate each other. That being said, when we learned of this kids death, we essentially ended practice early out of respect. We sent a few of our own to personally talk to their band to let them know that we feel their pain. I know some of you probably don't care, but after experiencing this just last week (seriously, look it up), I have a better understanding of what Google/Samsung are doing. Death is much bigger than you and I.

tl;dr: People are capable of being great.
tl;dr2: Muck Fichigan.

Originally Posted by lifelong

True, corporations don't, but maybe the people who run them do.

Originally Posted by AppleInsider

Google and Samsung have canceled an event planned for next week where the companies were supposed to announce the first smartphone based on Android "Ice Cream Sandwich," a move reportedly made in response to the death of Apple co-founder Steve Jobs.

The two companies are said to have rescheduled the event out of respect for Jobs, sources told Ina Fried of All Things D. The companies were originally scheduled to show off the next version of Google's Android operating system, dubbed Ice Cream Sandwich, along with a new "Nexus" smartphone built by Samsung on Tuesday.

"Sources said the companies just felt it was the wrong time to hold a launch event, as the world continues mourning Jobs, who died on Wednesday," Fried wrote.

Samsung and Google earlier on Friday issued a joint statement stating they would postpone the "Samsung Mobile Unpacked" event during the CTIA trade show in San Diego, Calif. "Under the current circumstances, both parties have agreed that this is not the appropriate time for the announcement of a new product," the press release vaguely said.

The move by Samsung and Apple is particularly interesting because Apple has not changed its plans to launch the iPhone 4S next week. The company began taking preorders earlier Friday for the handset's Oct. 14 launch.



Both Google and Samsung have paid their respects to Jobs since he died after a long bout with cancer on Wednesday at the age of 56. Google's executive chairman, Eric Schmidt, formerly served as a member on Apple's board of directors.

Teasers for the now-postponed event have teased that the companies will show off "something big." Reports have indicated the new handset will sport a curved screen with a 4.65-inch display, and will be the first handset to run Android 4.0.

Originally Posted by David Forbes

This. No further explanation needed. No conspiracy, no ulterior motives. This is about respect for one of their heroes, plain and simple.

Originally Posted by ConradJoe

How many millions did they decide to lose in order to express this respect? 10? 100?

Or did they decide that they could make more via a delay?

Or did they say "I don't care if it costs $100,000,00.00! I gots RESPECT!"

Originally Posted by MacInsider2

Uh, it's google. They have thousands of developers they can re-direct onto a project. But more likely the have to find something to outshine Siri in some way...

p.s. Siri isn't voice recognition software. It uses voice recognition to feed into an artificial intelligence engine (mostly based upon wolfram alpha)

Originally Posted by stelligent

Siri uses Nuance technology.

Originally Posted by ahmlco

Out of respect? Google, maybe. But Samsung?

And an event that's still a week away? Odd.

Maybe the Ice Cream is still a little soft....

Or, more likely, they don't want to be seen as attempting to trash Steve and his creations so close to his death.

Whatever it is, there's a business decision behind it.

Originally Posted by ConradJoe

How many millions did they decide to lose in order to express this respect? 10? 100?

Or did they decide that they could make more via a delay?

Or did they say "I don't care if it costs $100,000,00.00! I gots RESPECT!"

Originally Posted by nht

It's a keynote not the launch. It's not like the product is a secret anyway so it might cost them a little money but not enough that the CEOs are going to get raked over the coals by the stockholders over.

Originally Posted by RedHotJeff

I call BS. Something went wrong and they're using this as an excuse to buy some time.

Originally Posted by nht

Very classy. My opinion of Google and Samsung goes up around 5 notches.

Here's very not classy:

rms, freetardism's dear leader posted this:



http://stallman.org/archives/2011-ju...8Steve_Jobs%29

World's biggest jerk. I would say that my opinion of RMS dropped 5 notches but it was rock bottom already.

Originally Posted by MacRulez

General Patton was said to have great respect for Rommel, ...

Even in the harshest of wars there's room for civility. It should be no surprise to see such civility in a far less important context of corporate competition.

Originally Posted by solipsism

Evil? It's not good or evil, it's business. Stopping a product because someone died simply doesn't make sense from a business perspective unless there are other business-realted reasons involved. Apple didn't stop their event when Jobs was on his death bed. Apple isn't stopping the preorders and releases of products because Jobs passed away. Last time I checked Apple is a lot closer to Jobs than some Ice Cream Sandwich OS update.

Originally Posted by Mac Voyer

Dear Apple,

We see that you just announced your next big thing. As it stands, you will be hailed as having the best-in-class camera, and groundbreaking speech technology in Siri that will truly revolutionize the way people use smartphones. We realize that our speech technology will be reviewed unfavorably next to yours, and that many who like or need to use that functionality will walk away from our platform and go to yours without at least a token response from us.

We wanted you to have a reasonable window in the market as the undisputed thought, product, and marketing leader once again. That way, you will be able to maximize sales of your new product line, unabated by us. We want to do this because of our profound respect for Steve Jobs. The world mourns his loss, and we mourn with you. We are sorry for all the petty intellectual property theft and groundless lawsuits, so we want to offer this as a downpayment for all the misery we caused you for no good reason.

When your sales hit ten million units of the new device, and fifty million of those free phones that you will sell in short order, only then will we humbly present a stripped down offering of what we have intended if that's OK with you.

Sincerely,

Google and Samsung

Sure, I buy that.

Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum

From a purely business perspective:

2) Google and Sammy (and others) can gain PR advantages by delaying -- to show respect for a fallen [enemy] leader...

Originally Posted by dragon

Does anyone else think this is a HORRIBLE name??

Originally Posted by EmperorsNewClothes

I'm inclined to think that this cancellation is more about Steve's death overshadowing this event, than it being out of respect. They want to grab all the headlines, rather than be largely ignored by the media at this time.

Originally Posted by poke

My guess is the introductory speech involved a lot of cuts at Apple for not being innovative, for suing competitors, for being closed, etc, rather like the Google I/O event where they ranted about saving the world from a totalitarian Apple. They no doubt need to re-work the whole thing now.

Originally Posted by solipsism

It follows their original dessert-orineted naming convention, which was bad from the start.

Note that each begins with a consecutive letter of the alphabet starting with 'A' and Ice Cream Sandwich is a sandwiching, so to speak, of their smartphone and tablet versions of Android.