Originally Posted by jragosta
Since when are Oracle and Sun patent trolls? And even if they were, U.S. patent law allows you to sue someone under a patent even if you don't use it in your own products.
My point...yet I recall people talking pretty badly about Lodsys when they were simply defending their IP :-/
Why can't they just defend their IP from these criminals?
Seeing as how Apple's first patent applications on notifications predate Android, your story doesn't ring true (just like your claim that Sun was OK with Google using Java - even though it only took me a second to find an article showing that Sun tried to sell Google rights to use Java and Google refused).
So Apple patented pull down notifications and a) never implemented it until year 5 of the iPhone and b) never sued Android over it despite the many ongoing cases?
Furthermore, there are big differences. The idea of notifications is an old one and has been around for many, many years. The look and feel of iOS is proprietary. Look at many of the icons that Android uses - those are near exact copies of Apple's icons - just as one example.
Show me the icons that Android has that iOS has (and by Android I mean Android...i.e. stock)
So? What's wrong with wanting to make money off of technologies that you own? It's OK for Google to steal it because Oracle only wants to make money with it????
Again, it's okay for all these devs and small companies to steal Lodsys's IP because Lodsys is just in it for the money?
Even more importantly, Sun offered Google a license for $100 K and Google refused. Does THAT make it OK for Google to steal the technology? (and, based on those facts, just how in the world could you possibly reach the conclusion that Sun was OK with Google doing so?)
Hmmm, how could I possibly come up with that? How did such a thing even cross my mind...hmmm...oh yea.
Because Sun's CEO pretty much said so. Also again, steal is the wrong word...but you don't care.
I dislike criminals. It has nothing to do with Jobs or anyone else. Google has shown an incredible disdain for anyone's intellectual property but their own. I started to really dislike them when they started copying every printed work they could get their hands on it and wanted to sell access on the Internet - without having the authors' permission. They're a dishonest company and I refuse to support them.
It's really interesting that for a Google phandroid like you, it all comes down to personalities, while I (as well as most Apple users I know) have specific reasons for the things we do. Seems to me that it's not the Apple fans who are drinking Kool-aid.
yea okay...too much irony for today.