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One customer in Germany has been delivered an iPhone 4S early, offering a first glimpse at the packaging of the handset as well as screenshots from the device.

The iPhone 4S was delivered by German Telekom, which began accepting preorders for the handset before it was even announced, in early September. One of those early customers was fortunate enough to have received an iPhone 4S early, and images of the device were shared with Macerkopf.de (via Google Translate).

While other iPhone 4S units have been obtained early, and even thoroughly tested to demonstrate the processing power of the new A5 processor, none so far have offered a first look at the box for the iPhone 4S. The new box shows a design and even graphics similar to that of its predecessor, the iPhone 4.

Among the images is also a screenshot of the device's Siri voice recognition functionality. At launch, Siri will come with built-in support for English, German and French, while more languages and services will be added over time.

A picture of the back of the iPhone 4S shows its model number as A1387. Its predecessor, the iPhone 4, was model A1332.

For almost everyone else, the iPhone 4S will be delivered or available in stores this Friday, Oct. 14. Online preorders began last week, but Apple quickly sold out of its initial supply, and new orders are estimated to arrive in one to two weeks.





Apple announced on Monday that it sold a million preorders for the iPhone 4S in its first 24 hours of availability. That was a new record for the company, besting the 600,000 preorders earned by the iPhone 4 in 2010.





Analysts expect the iPhone 4S to continue to break records and become Apple's best-selling smartphone yet. The iPhone 4S has been predicted to sell around 3 million in its first three days of availability, helping to reach 25 million total sales in the holiday quarter.



The iPhone 4S launches Friday in the U.S., Canada, Australia, the U.K., France, Germany and Japan. It will expand to 22 more countries by the end of October: Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Mexico, Netherlands, Norway, Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden and Switzerland.
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I'm sad they are delaying sales of unlocked iPhones in the US until November. =/
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Looks like they're being delivered with current iOS5 GM build (9A334).
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I'm sad they are delaying sales of unlocked iPhones in the US until November. =/

So funny. We've waited 15 months for an updated iphone. What's another 3 weeks? :P
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I'm sad they are delaying sales of unlocked iPhones in the US until November. =/

Only in the USA though, and most likely only because this is the first time the USA gets unlocked phones.
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I can't get over how beautiful the iOS UI is; even down to the precision of the status bar on top. And the Retina display lets it show off its glory superbly.
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I cannot wait for iOS 5.0. With my iPhone 4, it will be like a new phone entirely. I have no remorse about not upgrading the 4s. A better camera and an A5 chip is not reason enough for me to pay $300.
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I cannot wait for iOS 5.0. With my iPhone 4, it will be like a new phone entirely. I have no remorse about not upgrading the 4s. A better camera and an A5 chip is not reason enough for me to pay $300.

Not even Siri?
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I'm sad they are delaying sales of unlocked iPhones in the US until November. =/

+1 I have atrip to Miami in late October and was hoping to buy two unlocked 4s'
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Not even Siri?

I had Siri as a free app up until September and never used it. I find talking on the phone in public repulsive both for myself and for others who always interrupt or encroach on my quieter moments in restaurants, movies, etc. - I will use iMessage and SMS.
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I cannot wait for iOS 5.0. With my iPhone 4, it will be like a new phone entirely. I have no remorse about not upgrading the 4s. A better camera and an A5 chip is not reason enough for me to pay $300.

Siri to me is a big pull. But if you look at it you can get the 4S and sell your 4 to at least come out even, or even likely come out ahead. Then you have a new phone and your wallet is none the wiser.
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I cannot wait for iOS 5.0. With my iPhone 4, it will be like a new phone entirely. I have no remorse about not upgrading the 4s. A better camera and an A5 chip is not reason enough for me to pay $300.

I think you are mis-understating the value of the A5 chip. In my opinion, the 4 was a marginal upgrade over the 3GS in terms of CPU and GPU power. The retina display put an additional burden on the GPU to push out pixels (4x as what was in the 3GS) and a few apps that I had were noticeably slower on the 4.

Also, the OS and other content started taking up more space on the 4 -- again, mostly due to the retina display support. So coming from a 32GB 3GS to a 32GB 4, I had to remove items to make it fit.

Now, I'm not complaining here -- I think the 4 was an amazing device, but I'm really excited about the possibilities of the 4S. Doubling the available CPU power and having an extra 7x the GPU power will be immediately noticeable. The 4S has the CPU/GPU combo that the retina display was designed for, IMO. Getting an extra 64GB of storage will also be a huge and welcome improvement.

The camera is, as you said, also better -- I'm hoping that the 4S camera finally kills off the point and shoot for my own uses. The 4 was pretty close, but it looks like the 4S camera will finally do it.

And for those of us using AT&T here in the states, the new antenna system on the 4S should be a godsend. I've mostly adjusted my usage of the phone (I was holding it wrong, I guess ), but I still occasionally run into problems. The 4S should be a huge improvement.

Those people who are saying that the 4S aren't worth the upgrade haven't really looked into it, IMO. While I would hesitate to upgrade at the unsubsidized or partial-subsidy prices, if you have an upgrade available, I think it's a pretty compelling upgrade. Given that you can sell your old iPhone 4 or pass it down to a family member or friend, it makes it even more compelling.
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I think you are mis-understating the value of the A5 chip. In my opinion, the 4 was a marginal upgrade over the 3GS in terms of CPU and GPU power. The retina display put an additional burden on the GPU to push out pixels (4x as what was in the 3GS) and a few apps that I had were noticeably slower on the 4.

Also, the OS and other content started taking up more space on the 4 -- again, mostly due to the retina display support. So coming from a 32GB 3GS to a 32GB 4, I had to remove items to make it fit.

Now, I'm not complaining here -- I think the 4 was an amazing device, but I'm really excited about the possibilities of the 4S. Doubling the available CPU power and having an extra 7x the GPU power will be immediately noticeable. The 4S has the CPU/GPU combo that the retina display was designed for, IMO. Getting an extra 64GB of storage will also be a huge and welcome improvement.

The camera is, as you said, also better -- I'm hoping that the 4S camera finally kills off the point and shoot for my own uses. The 4 was pretty close, but it looks like the 4S camera will finally do it.

And for those of us using AT&T here in the states, the new antenna system on the 4S should be a godsend. I've mostly adjusted my usage of the phone (I was holding it wrong, I guess ), but I still occasionally run into problems. The 4S should be a huge improvement.

Those people who are saying that the 4S aren't worth the upgrade haven't really looked into it, IMO. While I would hesitate to upgrade at the unsubsidized or partial-subsidy prices, if you have an upgrade available, I think it's a pretty compelling upgrade. Given that you can sell your old iPhone 4 or pass it down to a family member or friend, it makes it even more compelling.

Thank you for your opinion and information...I am laughing here thinking of just 2 years ago and using my Motorola Razr. I think we, the 1 year product cycle watchers, have gotten amazing bang for our buck with Apple products. I think its sometimes easy to lose perspective and want for the latest and greatest when really the device we carry in our pockets is miles ahead of the current technology. I'd rather give that $300 to an orphanage in Ethiopia and feel good knowing that a dual antenna is providing someone in the States with one less dropped call per 10.
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I cannot wait for iOS 5.0. With my iPhone 4, it will be like a new phone entirely. I have no remorse about not upgrading the 4s. A better camera and an A5 chip is not reason enough for me to pay $300.

used iPhone 4s are going for more than $300 on ebay/craigslist. that iPhone 4S upgrade doesn't have to cost you a dime.

even gazelle is giving $250 for an iPhone 4 if you don't want to go through the hassle of selling it yourself.
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I find talking on the phone in public repulsive...

Does this include public phone conversations between consenting humans?
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The camera is, as you said, also better -- I'm hoping that the 4S camera finally kills off the point and shoot for my own uses. The 4 was pretty close, but it looks like the 4S camera will finally do it.

I keep seeing people talking about that, and I have to disagree. Granted, I use my 3GS as my primary camera because it's always with me. But the one feature that is lacking on cell phone cameras is optical zoom. For example, when my son is out on the football field, I can't zoom in on him, I have to take a wide shot of the field.

More megapixels and higher quality images can offset the lack of this feature somewhat, by allowing you to zoom in and crop (at a loss of image size and pixel density).
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Siri to me is a big pull. But if you look at it you can get the 4S and sell your 4 to at least come out even, or even likely come out ahead. Then you have a new phone and your wallet is none the wiser.

Yup!!! i do this every year! i make 50-100 profit on every phone. i never understood why people say its a waste of money. i originally paid for 8gb iPhone 3G that one got me a 16gb iPhone 3GS and that got me my 32GB iPhone 4. works everytime!
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My iPhone 4 got stolen, so I had to switch back to the iPhone 3G (not even S)...

Besides thanking Apple for making FindMyiPhone absolutely useless if data roaming is disabled (which it has to be considering the enormous costs of data roaming)...

I am really looking forward to the 4S, as I delayed purchase of the iPhone due to the imminent release. And using the 3G is a pain in the... well... you know.

The iPhone 4 was really a major upgrade, even if only considering the screen.

Let's hope supplies of the iPhone are not so limited, because waiting a month with the 3G would really be frustrating. It is still a good phone, but iOS 4.2 struggles like mad on it, and several apps don't work, even multitasking doesn't.

Thanks to the guy/girl/whatever, in Denmark that pick pocketed... It wasn't an investment I "really" needed to do. But hey... Siri seems fun and in general it seems a good upgrade.
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I had Siri as a free app up until September and never used it. I find talking on the phone in public repulsive both for myself and for others who always interrupt or encroach on my quieter moments in restaurants, movies, etc. - I will use iMessage and SMS.

Ah, pah-lease!
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I'm sad they are delaying sales of unlocked iPhones in the US until November. =/

I was up all night with my credit card ready for preordering my unlocked iPhone last Friday just to be disappointed with "Available in November"
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Ah, pah-lease!
And where did you have breakfast this morning? Tiffany's?

You have never been in a restaurant and someone next to you is screaming into a cell phone? Even Tiffany's has this happen every once in a while and it makes me furious!
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You have never been in a restaurant and someone next to you is screaming into a cell phone?

And that somehow makes ALL phone conversations ANYWHERE in public "repulsive"?
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You have never been in a restaurant and someone next to you is screaming into a cell phone? Even Tiffany's has this happen every once in a while and it makes me furious!

you need an iPod touch 3G.
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Originally Posted by freethinker View Post

I cannot wait for iOS 5.0. With my iPhone 4, it will be like a new phone entirely. I have no remorse about not upgrading the 4s. A better camera and an A5 chip is not reason enough for me to pay $300.

Sell your iPhone 4 for $300 on eBay and the new phone didn't cost you a penny.
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I see ios 5 as a good hold off till i can hopefully get an iphone 4s at the end of october (if they are not backed up by months by then).

Siris best use is in the car. My state made it illegal to text and drive. You must be using a hands free device. Siri allows the iphone to read off my texts while I am driving which is a HUGE feature for me.
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Wait a minute...is the new UI in German!??!!! Cmon apple!!
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Only in the USA though, and most likely only because this is the first time the USA gets unlocked phones.

Not quite. The previous iPhone 4 models (16GB and 32GB) were available unlocked since June until they were discontinued.
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And that somehow makes ALL phone conversations ANYWHERE in public "repulsive"?

Yes. Just for the day, mentally document all the cell phone conversations that you are forced to overhear in public. This morning on the bus I was forced to listen to a lady screaming at her husband or boyfriend or lover or son. Yesterday it was a guy talking about his bachelor party. Ugh. Not even my Shure noise cancellation earphones make it better. Nothing does.
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Sold my black 16gb iphone4 for $355 on ebay (jailbroken). Most are getting $340-370. Sweet.
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I cannot wait for iOS 5.0. With my iPhone 4, it will be like a new phone entirely. I have no remorse about not upgrading the 4s. A better camera and an A5 chip is not reason enough for me to pay $300.

You're not meant to get a new phone every year you know. No matter how good it is. Every two years if you have a contract is perfect timing. That way you even can be more excited about the big jump.
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I see ios 5 as a good hold off till i can hopefully get an iphone 4s at the end of october (if they are not backed up by months by then).

Siris best use is in the car. My state made it illegal to text and drive. You must be using a hands free device. Siri allows the iphone to read off my texts while I am driving which is a HUGE feature for me.

I am pretty sure that soon it will be most states or even all states have made it illegal to text and drive. That alone is reason enough for me to learn how to use Siri. *



*Note, I do not text and drive.
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You're not meant to get a new phone every year you know. No matter how good it is. Every two years if you have a contract is perfect timing. That way you even can be more excited about the big jump.

Everything you say is true except for one thing? Ron Paul? Really?

I mean. I like the idea of abolishing the EPA and going back to the Gold Standard. But I like these things as strictly ideas. The reality would spell disaster.
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What are the two different phone icons on that guys home screen?

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isnt that the text messaging service alot people use in europe?
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What are the two different phone icons on that guys home screen?

The one in the third slot on the tray is the WhatsApp app that allows free cross-platform SMS.

http://www.whatsapp.com
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+1 I have atrip to Miami in late October and was hoping to buy two unlocked 4s'

Since it sounds like the reason you wanted them was for resale, I don't have a lot of sympathy.
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What are the two different phone icons on that guys home screen?

I think one of them is the new Newsstand app (for magazine subscriptions.)
Not sure which of the others you're referring to.
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Not even Siri?

Seri is pushing me over the edge. Thankfully I'm not eligible for a subsidized upgrade until November 25th, so I have some time to cool the gadget lust down a little.

Not that I think it wil help much!

And I just realized being SMS free will more than make up for the $400 for the 64GB model (finally-the other huge reason I want a 4S)
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used iPhone 4s are going for more than $300 on ebay/craigslist. that iPhone 4S upgrade doesn't have to cost you a dime.

even gazelle is giving $250 for an iPhone 4 if you don't want to go through the hassle of selling it yourself.

Sure, but who's paying the remaining 12-24 months of my phone contract bill attached to the old iPhone 4? Because for the new iPhone 4S to be USD 200 for 16 GB will get another contract.
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I'd rather give that $300 to an orphanage in Ethiopia and feel good knowing that a dual antenna is providing someone in the States with one less dropped call per 10.



The extra productivity the iPhone provides allows me to make far more than $300 to give to the "orphanage in Ethiopia".
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