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post #41 of 71
10/11/11 at 1:13pm
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Wow. Do you guys also like to exercise by jogging along the middle of the freeway at night? Wearing black clothes? Because there is no way in heck I'm going to install 10.5.1. right now. Why be a guinea pig? Wait until the bugs are worked out. I have a 4TB music collection I've collected and tagged extensively over 8 years, and no way, no how, am I going to risk it in even a small way by being an early adopter here. I'm on 10.4.1 and it's served me well. I'm sure it can continue to do so for another month or so, so why should I hurry in switching to 10.5.1. Heck, I'm still on Snow Leopard 10.6.8, and in no hurry to go to Lion. But I'll be happy to read about people's experiences of 10.5.1.

You're an outlier (I don't mean that in a bad way), and therefore your experience is of little interest to Apple or a vast majority of its users of iTunes. So it probably does not make a great deal sense for you to berate people about their jogging habits, etc.
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post #42 of 71
10/11/11 at 1:13pm
Now that I've updated (and have working) iTunes 10.5 I guess I'm ready for iOS 5. Has Apple said when it will be available other than tomorrow? I have no problem being up at midnight if I need to be but it seems like it may be a mid-morning or early afternoon thing.

Any idea?
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post #43 of 71
10/11/11 at 1:15pm
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Also, I wanted to throw out that Apple is probably going to have a lot of hiccups with Match. Neither iOS not iTunes is "ready"; they both seem like they're getting there but not quite solid yet.

What does that mean? Can you be more specific? What works? Does not work?
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post #44 of 71
10/11/11 at 1:20pm
We are still waiting on a Lion update also. There needs to be an iCloud icon in the Sys Pref Network panel.

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post #45 of 71
10/11/11 at 1:21pm
Just updated iTunes to the 10.5 public release. Both of my iOS devices (an iPhone 4 and an original iPad) were already running iOS 5 GM. Both iOS devices are plugged into AC wall outlets. The iOS devices are not seen by (and will not wireless sync to) my MacBook Pro.

Before iTunes 10.5, I would normally sync both of my iOS devices (via tethered docks) to my mid-2009 MacBook Pro running OS X Lion 10.7.1. In iOS 5 (on both devices), under General, iTunes WiFi Sync it says: "Sync will resume when "Rockarollr's MacBook Pro" is available. The "Sync Now" button is greyed out - also on both iOS devices. Using the same MacBook Pro, I did one last "tethered sync" with both iOS devices before trying to test the WiFi Sync capability of iTunes 10.5.

iTunes 10.5 has been up and running on the MacBook Pro during my attempts at WiFi syncing. I'm using an Airport Extreme simultaneous dual-band wireless router for my WiFi network and all devices are connected to the same network channel. I'm really stumped here!

Any suggestions on getting WiFi sync to work in this scenario? Any help would be appreciated.

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post #46 of 71
10/11/11 at 1:26pm
iTunes 10.5 did not recognize my original iPhone at all when tethered to the USB port. It just beeps.
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post #47 of 71
10/11/11 at 1:27pm
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Arrgghhh! Still no dice. itunes 10.5 (under 10.6.8 w/all updates installed) will not launch. Hangs completely every-time. I've reset the pram, fixed disk permissions, reinstalled twice. Still a no go. >

Uninstall Safari 5 then reinstall an older version of Safari and it will work..there is something in Safari 5 that makes itunes not work.

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post #48 of 71
10/11/11 at 1:27pm
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Originally Posted by Rockarollr View Post

Just updated iTunes to the 10.5 public release. Both of my iOS devices (an iPhone 4 and an original iPad) were already running iOS 5 GM. Both iOS devices are plugged into AC wall outlets. The iOS devices are not seen by (and will not wireless sync to) my MacBook Pro.

Before iTunes 10.5, I would normally sync both of my iOS devices (via tethered docks) to my mid-2009 MacBook Pro running OS X Lion 10.7.1. In iOS 5 (on both devices), under General, iTunes WiFi Sync it says: "Sync will resume when "Rockarollr's MacBook Pro" is available. The "Sync Now" button is greyed out - also on both iOS devices. Using the same MacBook Pro, I did one last "tethered sync" with both iOS devices before trying to test the WiFi Sync capability of iTunes 10.5.

iTunes 10.5 has been up and running on the MacBook Pro during my attempts at WiFi syncing. I'm using an Airport Extreme simultaneous dual-band wireless router for my WiFi network and all devices are connected to the same network channel. I'm really stumped here!

Any suggestions on getting WiFi sync to work in this scenario? Any help would be appreciated.

I'd wait until you have 10.7.2 before worrying about it any more.
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post #49 of 71
10/11/11 at 1:39pm
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Originally Posted by Jonamac View Post

I'd wait until you have 10.7.2 before worrying about it any more.

I was thinking that might be the issue. It's the only logical piece of the puzzle that's missing that might also be necessary. I'm guessing that the 10.7.2 update will be released sometime between now and tomorrow morning. I'll wait until then before concerning myself with it any further.

Thank you kindly for your input!

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post #50 of 71
10/11/11 at 2:06pm
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Originally Posted by propel View Post

I have at last count 42872 itunes songs. Too bad for me you are limited to 25000.

Any word on how Match handles libraries bigger than 25k? I'm still hoping they allow selecting which songs are synced and ignoring the rest.

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Originally Posted by FineWine View Post

Because there is no way in heck I'm going to install 10.5.1. right now.

Maybe you missed it in the thread and article but the new public version released was 10.5. 10.5.1 is a beta release so it won't even show up unless you're a developer. The main reason to update to 10.5 is compatibility with iOS 5 which should be released tomorrow. Looks like the wireless syncing option is already available.

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No iTunes Match or iTunes in the Cloud for me, is it US-only?

Match is not released to the public yet, end of the month. At this point it's still in beta, in the hands of developers.

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Originally Posted by Rockarollr View Post

Just updated iTunes to the 10.5 public release. Both of my iOS devices (an iPhone 4 and an original iPad) were already running iOS 5 GM. Both iOS devices are plugged into AC wall outlets. The iOS devices are not seen by (and will not wireless sync to) my MacBook Pro.

I believe you have to do one wired sync, after that wireless should work. Have you tried that?
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post #51 of 71
10/11/11 at 2:08pm
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Originally Posted by Jonamac View Post

I'd wait until you have 10.7.2 before worrying about it any more.

On the main menu in iTunes (where the picture of your iPhone/iPad will be) there's an option to sync over WiFi. I think this is new with 10.5 proper?



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Originally Posted by Rockarollr View Post

I was thinking that might be the issue. It's the only logical piece of the puzzle that's missing that might also be necessary. I'm guessing that the 10.7.2 update will be released sometime between now and tomorrow morning. I'll wait until then before concerning myself with it any further.

Thank you kindly for your input!

Works fine once I did as above. Both iPhone and iPad are syncing wirelessly without being plugged into mains.
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post #52 of 71
10/11/11 at 2:09pm
One small observation is that swiping left and right to navigate backwards and forwards in iTunes now seems to work again, thankfully.
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post #53 of 71
10/11/11 at 2:31pm
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Originally Posted by Roly View Post

One small observation is that swiping left and right to navigate backwards and forwards in iTunes now seems to work again, thankfully.

Are you using a Magic Mouse? Cause I used to be able to do this, but not even this 10.5 update re-enabled it for me.....How I miss this feature.
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post #54 of 71
10/11/11 at 2:59pm
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Originally Posted by airnerd View Post

Too lazy to follow the match link, so I'll pick the brains here.

So if I have all my CD's ripped, and I buy one year of itunes match, then will it download the matching itunes, and the following year I can cancel the itunes match and still have the higher quality matches?

If you ripped your CDs at less than 256 kbps, you don't care much about sound quality, so what does it matter?
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post #55 of 71
10/11/11 at 3:14pm
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Originally Posted by Robodude View Post

On the main menu in iTunes (where the picture of your iPhone/iPad will be) there's an option to sync over WiFi. I think this is new with 10.5 proper?



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Works fine once I did as above. Both iPhone and iPad are syncing wirelessly without being plugged into mains.

Boom. Problem solved

Quite excited to get my hands on iOS5
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post #56 of 71
10/11/11 at 3:18pm
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Originally Posted by airnerd View Post

Too lazy to follow the match link, so I'll pick the brains here.

So if I have all my CD's ripped, and I buy one year of itunes match, then will it download the matching itunes, and the following year I can cancel the itunes match and still have the higher quality matches?

Another story on AppleInsider says this:

"With the annual fee, users will be able to access their library of up to 25,000 songs from any device, and will be able to re-download songs via iTunes in the Cloud. Users will also be able to replace their matched files with higher quality 256Kbps iTunes Plus AAC files, even if the original copy is of lower quality."

Remember, though, this is from AI, not directly from Apple.
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post #57 of 71
10/11/11 at 3:38pm
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Originally Posted by FineWine View Post

Wow. Do you guys also like to exercise by jogging along the middle of the freeway at night? Wearing black clothes? Because there is no way in heck I'm going to install 10.5.1. right now. Why be a guinea pig? Wait until the bugs are worked out. I have a 4TB music collection I've collected and tagged extensively over 8 years, and no way, no how, am I going to risk it in even a small way by being an early adopter here.

Wow. Do you guy also wear a tin-foil hat? And live in an underground lair, with a Faraday cage so the aliens can't get to you? What's with the paranoia about updating a music app?

And it is stupid on top of it all: if you really value your 4TB music collection, then you'd have it BACKED UP. In which case, whatever iTunes does to it doesn't matter.

If you don't have it backed up, then you have MUCH WORSE problems awaiting to happen to those 4TB than a buggy iTunes...
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post #58 of 71
10/11/11 at 3:40pm
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Remember, though, this is from AI, not directly from Apple.

Except that's exactly what Apple said at WWDC when it was introduced.
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post #59 of 71
10/11/11 at 4:08pm
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Originally Posted by Robodude View Post

On the main menu in iTunes (where the picture of your iPhone/iPad will be) there's an option to sync over WiFi. I think this is new with 10.5 proper?

I don't get that Option screen when hooked up to my iPhone 4 or iPad.

Do you happen to have a developer version of OS 5 installed on your device(s)?

from the iTunes 10.5 help menu:
"If youre on a Wi-Fi network, and have iOS 5 installed on your iPod touch, iPhone, or iPad, you can sync your device without connecting it to your computer."
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post #60 of 71
10/11/11 at 4:13pm
Anyone else having issues with wifi sync using itunes 10.5 (released today 10-11-11) with the iOS 5 GM (iPhone 4) i cannot get this to work its annoying!!!
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post #61 of 71
10/11/11 at 6:16pm
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Originally Posted by Jaedre View Post

Anyone else having issues with wifi sync using itunes 10.5 (released today 10-11-11) with the iOS 5 GM (iPhone 4) i cannot get this to work its annoying!!!

Turn it on per device. Summary tab, Yo!
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post #62 of 71
10/11/11 at 7:53pm
Since upgrading all I get is error 5002 when trying to upgrade a few apps. Same if I upgrade right from my iPhone. Anyone else with this issue?
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post #63 of 71
10/11/11 at 9:23pm
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Originally Posted by hittrj01 View Post

According to About iTunes, it's build 141. Hope that helps.

Yup, just updated. Build 141 here.
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post #64 of 71
10/11/11 at 9:28pm
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Originally Posted by IHateScreenNames View Post

Now that I've updated (and have working) iTunes 10.5 I guess I'm ready for iOS 5. Has Apple said when it will be available other than tomorrow? I have no problem being up at midnight if I need to be but it seems like it may be a mid-morning or early afternoon thing.

Any idea?

10.5 updated and Lion waiting for updates here, ready to go full-on iOS 5 when it is officially released.

Probably 9 or 10 am USA PST on Oct 12. Hence about 12 hours to go to iOS 5 launch. It would be terribly cruel to the Apple Cupertino staff to do a midnight iOS 5 launch. Just like the pre-orders, 9 or 10am USA PST should be the witching hour.
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post #65 of 71
10/11/11 at 9:37pm
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Originally Posted by jabohn View Post

Since upgrading all I get is error 5002 when trying to upgrade a few apps. Same if I upgrade right from my iPhone. Anyone else with this issue?

Updating apps now, seems OK.
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post #66 of 71
10/11/11 at 10:15pm
Does iTunes 10.5 resume playback when it is closed and opened again?
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post #67 of 71
10/11/11 at 10:24pm
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Does iTunes 10.5 resume playback when it is closed and opened again?

Nope, not for me.
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post #68 of 71
10/11/11 at 10:49pm
OK had to agree to new iTunes terms and conditions when updating apps. iTunes Match is mentioned.
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post #69 of 71
10/12/11 at 9:55am
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Originally Posted by elroth View Post

If you ripped your CDs at less than 256 kbps, you don't care much about sound quality, so what does it matter?

Nah, there are plenty of us who were ripping CDs years ago when storage space was tiny. Not to mention that early rips were MP3 since AAC wasn't available yet - even switching to the same bitrate of AAC will be an improvement.

To answer his question, yes you'll get the higher quality files and be able to keep them. That's not officially announced, but people are using the beta and the files downloaded are DRM free so there's no way Apple could take them away if you stop paying for iTunes match. But I suspect for a paltry $25 many people will be happy to keep the service.
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post #70 of 71
10/12/11 at 12:50pm
10.5 is FECKED up for me. I've being crapping around here for over two hours now and nothing works right for me.

I can't upgrade to iOS 5 for iPad on my iPad 2 and I can't upgrade to iOS 5 for iPhone on my iPhone 4.

Both products can't even be restored by iTunes 10.5.... Grrr!!!

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post #71 of 71
10/12/11 at 3:34pm
I've updated to iOS5, I've updated to iTunes 10.5 but when I go to the summary page for my iPhone, I'm not presented with an option to allow syncing over wifi. I've tried reinstalling iTunes again, but it's still no go.

Any thoughts?
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