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post #41 of 77
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Originally Posted by kotatsu View Post

iOS5 certainly plugs a few holes but for me I'd still like to see more glanceable stuff in iOS. Most stuff is still buried in apps, even with the new Android notification tray. Why can't we have a twitter feed, RSS feed, or even a realtime weather app running at all times? Even the weather icon still displays the same static image as it always did. It just seems needlessly backwards.

Maybe iOS6 will finally fix this stuff.

Why do you even keep bothering with Apple stuff? I've never seen a single post from you that wasn't a variant on "Apple is playing catchup here someone else already has it" or "Someone else is already doing it better" or "too bad Apple doesn't have x oh well maybe next year."

I mean, if you crave bigger screens and think Honeycomb is the bomb and yearn for Android like functionality, why not just go with Android? There are plenty of nice phones to choose from.
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post #42 of 77
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Originally Posted by akf2000 View Post

Question for AI forum: Do Gold Master versions expire? I am on iOS 5 GM and want to know if I need to update to the final build.

Probably a question better asked on the developer/appleseed forums. With iOS 5 out today the NDA may no longer be a factor, then again, it might be
post #43 of 77
I can't wait to FINALLY get to play around with the iOS 5 software!

iCloud seem like it's going to work miracle for all Apple users.
post #44 of 77
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Originally Posted by rgraphix View Post

Enough talk already Apple, release it!

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They're sleeping. Apple operates on American time, not foreign time.

It'll most likely be released around 10 AM PST, 1 PM EST.

Exactly. This is a fairly predictable pattern.
post #45 of 77
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Originally Posted by Journojulz View Post

But IOS3.1 is going to remind people to give it a week or so...
I lost my 3g to it (genius swap) - and the wife is still on IOS2 on hers!

Keeping your wife on iOS2 is akin to keeping her pregnant and in the kitchen. The feminists would lynch you if they knew. Upgrade her ASAP for the sake of your life!
post #46 of 77
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Originally Posted by AdrianJNYC View Post

I can't wait to FINALLY get to play around with the iOS 5 software!

iCloud seem like it's going to work miracle for all Apple users.

For many, true. For many others, it will be confusion at the beginning. Take MacOS X Lion. A perusal through some user groups and you'll see some serious FUD happening. And that's nothing as landscape changing as iCloud.
post #47 of 77
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Originally Posted by MSJ View Post

And where is AirPrint for any printer? Not a version that I need to go buy a new printer for? Let's get this done, Apple - time to cut the (printer) cord.
Cheers,
Mike

I was just thinking about that this morning. Whatever happened to that feature? Granted I have a printer that works with it, but I don't want that to be criteria for purchasing my next printer.
post #48 of 77
Still have seen no mention of whether the 20MB download cap will be eliminated, or at least extended.

While someone "cutting the cord" will probably already have an ISP and home WiFi, new users looking to use an iPad as their only device want exactly that -- only 1 device, one data plan, etc... The artificial 20MB limit was already an obsolete idea. IOS 5 would make it archaic.
post #49 of 77
Having used it a bit, iOS5 is pretty awesome. iOS is pretty much where it needs to be, and ahead of the competition in my eyes, except for the maps app which desperately needs updating. My favourite feature has to be the split keyboard, but there are subtle improvements all around which make it a pleasure to use.
post #50 of 77
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Originally Posted by tkrunner1738 View Post

was hoping to upgrade before work doesnt look like that will happen.

After downloading the new iTunes at work yesterday and having it download 350 songs to my work Mac in about 5 minutes, I decided that our network connection is much faster than I expected, so I'm sat here at work awaiting the download.

I also have new found admiration for the geeks who make our network work!
post #51 of 77
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Originally Posted by PaulMJohnson View Post

After downloading the new iTunes at work yesterday and having it download 350 songs to my work Mac in about 5 minutes, I decided that our network connection is much faster than I expected, so I'm sat here at work awaiting the download.

I also have new found admiration for the geeks who make our network work!

I wonder if that admiration is reciprocal
post #52 of 77
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Originally Posted by Naboozle View Post

I wonder if that admiration is reciprocal

After I downloaded over 1Gb in five minutes, probably not.
post #53 of 77
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Originally Posted by MSJ View Post

And where is AirPrint for any printer? Not a version that I need to go buy a new printer for? Let's get this done, Apple - time to cut the (printer) cord.
Cheers,
Mike

geeze, if you got an old school printer and are too broke to replace it, just buy one of those $10 or less apps that enable printing to any printer via your PC/Mac.

the new AirPrint/wifi printers are a big improvement for any home setup. cost just $180, maybe less. time to keep up with technology. Let's get this done, Mike!
post #54 of 77
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Originally Posted by Alfiejr View Post

geeze, if you got an old school printer and are too broke to replace it, just buy one of those $10 or less apps that enable printing to any printer via your PC/Mac.

the new AirPrint/wifi printers are a big improvement for any home setup. cost just $180, maybe less. time to keep up with technology. Let's get this done, Mike!

I can't remember what it was called, but I downloaded an app for my fathers Mac Mini which sits there happily making it all work - it's a great solution if you don't have $200 lying around for a new printer.
post #55 of 77
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Originally Posted by IlikeAppel View Post

I'm an Apple fanboy too and have a long-standing love affair with the company, its products, ethos, and culture, but reading this makes me think the writer is involved (on Apple's behalf) in a middle/high school imbroglio with Microsoft/Android/Palm. It's childish.

That is the author's main appeal. He combines historical knowledge with schoolyard taunts, all prettied up in gobs of affectation.

So long as they keep him away from the hard news stories, he's great.
post #56 of 77
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Originally Posted by auxio View Post

GM builds typically don't expire. However, there's no guarantee that they'll be exactly the same build as the final, released version. Most of the time they are, but I've seen rare cases where the release version is one or two builds higher.

Since the GM build is developer only, I don't think they'd give you a simple way to upgrade should that be the case. A full restore to the release version would likely be the only option. Such is life on the bleeding edge...

By definition, the GM is the final release build. If the public release is different, then it means that the GM moniker was wrong and should instead be referred to as it's release candidate build number.

Which "GM" are you saying differed from the public release?
post #57 of 77
This version of the iPhone software (4.3.5) is the current version. Liar!
post #58 of 77
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Originally Posted by Alfiejr View Post

geeze, if you got an old school printer and are too broke to replace it, just buy one of those $10 or less apps that enable printing to any printer via your PC/Mac.

the new AirPrint/wifi printers are a big improvement for any home setup. cost just $180, maybe less. time to keep up with technology. Let's get this done, Mike!

My company has hundreds of thousands of dollars invested in printers.

Needless to say, I'll be installing software mods on our print servers rather than buying new printers.
post #59 of 77
If the Photos app is adding basic editting capabilities to the iPhone like the iPad has, is it also then adding the capability to import photos from cameras via the camera connection kit? Or is Apple artificially restricting that capability in order to try and suck more money out of my wallet? If the iPhone screen is big enough to do editting, it's big enough to load and review photos from my camera, too.
post #60 of 77
yeah like some others i wish Apple would allow widget apps. some really are convenient. you could turn them on/off if battery life is an issue for you. they'd take up the space of 4, 6, 8, 9 or 12 apps on the screen. it's my one big disappointment in iOS 5, and the one real user advantage Apple has left for Android and Windows Phone to hype.

Jobs had a real stubborn streak about things like this, and he wasn't always right (no one is). this is likely one consequence of it. the much too overly-restricted Apple TV is likely another.

well ... iOS 6 is just a year away.
post #61 of 77
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Originally Posted by dfiler View Post

My company has hundreds of thousands of dollars invested in printers.

Needless to say, I'll be installing software mods on our print servers rather than buying new printers.

business office setups are a whole 'nother thing.
post #62 of 77
1am in HK...still no iOS5...
post #63 of 77
1:11 PM here in NYC & still no iOS 5 -- and yes, I have the new iTunes 10.5.

What's going on?!?
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post #64 of 77
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1:11 PM here in NYC & still no iOS 5 -- and yes, I have the new iTunes 10.5.

What's going on?!?

It's up at least it's downloading on my ipad now
post #65 of 77
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Originally Posted by CaryMG View Post

1:11 PM here in NYC & still no iOS 5 -- and yes, I have the new iTunes 10.5.

What's going on?!?

Just started the download here in the UK at 18.06.....

18.52 - almost there - it's like the countdown at the end of a Bond film - it takes ages for the last few seconds to pass!
post #66 of 77
Finally! Downloading now. 12:15 CST. Lazy asses.
post #67 of 77
My strategy of downloading and updating at work has failed, since my work Mac isn't the one I usually synch with. Does anyone know of a way I can get around that?
post #68 of 77
And of course, the moment I yell & scream about it, is the exact moment it becomes available ....
Yeccchhhh.

Downloading now ....
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post #69 of 77
I hope, that'll give me enough time to squeeze in IP Man.
post #70 of 77
I *do* have a question about the quick-access camera: is this assignable, or exclusively the province of Apple's Camera app? It won't keep me from the upgrade, but I'm just wondering as I wait for it to download....
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post #71 of 77
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Originally Posted by Capt. Obvious View Post

I *do* have a question about the quick-access camera: is this assignable, or exclusively the province of Apple's Camera app? It won't keep me from the upgrade, but I'm just wondering as I wait for it to download....

Only the camera app. Could probably jailbreak it to change it to something else.
post #72 of 77
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Originally Posted by dfiler View Post

Which "GM" are you saying differed from the public release?

I'm not sure about iOS GM releases, but I know I've had it happen with one or two Mac OS X GM preview releases in the past. Though I'd have to check to see if they were indeed labelled as "GM" by Apple or were just release candidates that other people had labelled as GM. Regardless, they came out very shortly before the official releases and were one or two builds lower.
 
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post #73 of 77
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Originally Posted by LeeRoy View Post

Only the camera app. Could probably jailbreak it to change it to something else.

\ Too bad...I have a bunch of camera apps. Still, I have a folder full of 'em as one of my 'constant 4', so not as bad as all that
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post #74 of 77
I'd like to point out that the Photo Albums you can now create directly in iOS are not the same as Photo Albums you've synced from iPhoto (for example) or the Camera Roll. Photos are not actually placed into the albums you've created, instead they are merely a link to the photo's original location, so you can't actually "move" a photo into one of your albums. If you remove the original photo, the one in your album is gone too.

This is a big limitation I hope Apple addresses.
post #75 of 77
With iPhone finally on Sprint -- I am amazed Apple STILL has not answered with Nextel-style Push-To-Talk/Direct Connect functionality -- this is one of my top feature requests...
post #76 of 77
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Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post

it has no real downsides

Bull.

Did you guys even test the music player app on the iPad? Lyrics display is totally broken, and the rest of the app is just awful, features are buried or totally missing, and the views are mostly crappy album art graphics with no option for simple text lists. Huge fail on apple's part, I can't believe you guys didn't even mention it. For anyone who listens to a lot of music I'd say it's bad enough that I'd recommend waiting for a .1 update to fix it before updating.
post #77 of 77
Just an FYI. . .

iOS5 is bringing some substantial challenges to developers too.

http://www.marco.org/2011/10/13/ios5-caches-cleaning
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