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Originally Posted by ChristophB View Post

We can count on one hand how many people have actually touched a 4S? Let's see what happens when they are in the field; when applications start rolling out that the CPU, GPU, voice, and iCloud; when a 3G or 3GS owner has a friend with one or picks one up in an Apple Store.

I already have an iPad 2, so I know what the performance is like. It's pretty darn good.

I also read today that Grand Theft Auto III is being released, only available for iPhone 4S and iPad 2.
post #42 of 68
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Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

I can't see why anyone would brag about 4.5, or even 5 inches

True. I wouldn't walk around bragging about any inches either, if I only had 4.5" to brag about.

On the other hand, if I had 9.7" to brag about, then that's a whole different story.
post #43 of 68
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Originally Posted by Apple ][ View Post

Here are a few more accurate headlines.

Amazingly, 42% of all iPhone 4 owners plan to upgrade to the iPhone 4S, a truly amazing statistic.

88% of Android users are still broke and they will be sticking with their inferior phones.

1 out of every 4 Blackberry users will be jumping ship and getting an iPhone 4S!

Apple produces their biggest hit ever! iPhone 4S to become most popular phone ever!

I really like the way you think about this. =)

Especially 1 in 4 Blackberry users leaving their phones behind. Yikes! Leaving BB for what is considered just a standard upgrade model from Apple, no redesign or super amazing whiz bang features. 1 in 4!

Imagine what will happen to RIM when the iPhone 5 ships with it's bigger screen =)
post #44 of 68
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I already have an iPad 2, so I know what the performance is like. It's pretty darn good.

I also read today that Grand Theft Auto III is being released, only available for iPhone 4S and iPad 2.

I can see the point for the 4 and iPad 2 owners. I'm just skeptical of the 3G'ers who won't have iOS5/cloud and 3GSers who see the huge speed leap. I can remember being astonished when I made the move from 3GS.

Did any surveys ask what features would have been compelling enough to move from a 3G or 3GS? One not oft talked about . . . 64GB. I'm gonna love the headroom.
post #45 of 68
I am a long-time Android fan and have bought almost every product they've built, but...

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post #46 of 68
What a terribly phrased headline.
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Originally Posted by kpluck View Post

Give it another 6-8 weeks. As more Android phones start using 4.5" 720P displays the iPhone is going to look less attractive.

Don't get me wrong, OS-wise iOS is better than Android IMHO. The app selection is better and the apps are of better quality. But when non-iPhone users go into a store and immediately see some of these big beautiful new displays, the iPhone is going to look less interesting.

Don't get me wrong, only 7% surveyed cared.

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Among iPhone 4 users, dissatisfaction rates were substantially higher, countering another media-led fallacy that Apple's customers are generally ignorant and will buy anything the company sells without a consideration of features. ...

Still, 42 percent of existing iPhone 4 users said they planned to buy the new model,


They said that they would buy, even as they said they were dissatisfied.

Doesn't that mean that Apple's customers are generally ignorant and will buy anything the company sells without a consideration of features?
post #50 of 68
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Originally Posted by ConradJoe View Post

They said that they would buy, even as they said they were dissatisfied.

Doesn't that mean that Apple's customers are generally ignorant and will buy anything the company sells without a consideration of features?

It means that satisfied means different things to Apple users than it means to other buyers.

Apple users are unsatisfied if they don't get a revolution every 12 months.

Android users are unsatisfied if their clunky phone gets thrown out the window. Anything more than they're pleasantly surprised.
post #51 of 68
"More users say they'll likely buy iPhone 4S than can find fault in it"


post #52 of 68
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Originally Posted by kpluck View Post

. But when non-iPhone users go into a store and immediately see some of these big beautiful new displays, the iPhone is going to look less interesting.

-kpluck

But what about the Specs! Doesn't the iPhone have more PPIs or something?
post #53 of 68
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Originally Posted by ConradJoe View Post

They said that they would buy, even as they said they were dissatisfied.

Doesn't that mean that Apple's customers are generally ignorant and will buy anything the company sells without a consideration of features?

What you didn't get the memo? Aren't you one of "Apple's customers"? Or are you just hanging around these forums because you're not but you love Apple?

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post #54 of 68
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Originally Posted by ConradJoe View Post

They said that they would buy, even as they said they were dissatisfied.

Doesn't that mean that Apple's customers are generally ignorant and will buy anything the company sells without a consideration of features?

We Apple customers must be ignorant -- because smarter people like you spend the greater part of their days telling us we are...

And we never catch on -- we just keep on, keepin' on buying those products that dissatisfy us and waste our time.


What's your excuse?
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post #55 of 68
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What you didn't get the memo? Aren't you one of "Apple's customers"? Or are you just hanging around these forums because you're not but you love Apple?

He's extremely dissatisfied but he supposedly continues to buy Apple products... wait! what?!... wouldn't that make him... ignorant.
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post #56 of 68
Just upgraded from iPhone 4 32GB to iPhone 4S 64GB..

My iPhone 4 became a vibrator on Oct 4th.. (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=950117). It was out of warranty and no way of rebooting it..

Perhaps it was trying to tell me something..

Anyway, I took it as a sign for me to upgrade.
post #57 of 68
The statistics are meaningless for several reasons. First, out of the 1, 300 smartphone users, how many are blackberry users, Android users, 3GS users, and iPhone 4 users?

If 4 out of 1, 300 users are iPhone 4 users, and two of these users will switch, you can accurately say 50 percent of iPhone 4 users users plan to switch. Yet, if I told you I asked four iPhone 4 users if they'd switch to the iPhone 4S and two said yes, you'd should say the statistic is not useful. We do not know if the sample accurately represents the market division among manufactures.

Second, not one of these people have actually used the iPhone 4S. By all accounts, Siri is pretty impressive.

Third, was there a time frame attached to the purchase decision. If you asked my brother does he plan to buy one, he'd say no because it is too expensive to break his contract. If you asked him, does he want one, he'd say yes. Six months from now, his answer would be different.
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post #59 of 68
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Originally Posted by kpluck View Post

Give it another 6-8 weeks. As more Android phones start using 4.5" 720P displays the iPhone is going to look less attractive.

Until they pick it up, that is. Then they discover it's larger, heavier, not as easily held in one hand, not as easy to type on with one humb, doesn't fit into your pocket...

Bigger isn't always better. And for a phone, doubly so. The greatest feature of the iPhone for me is I can put it in my pocket - no need for an ugly holster or case. And I'm hardly alone.

People aren't going to switch for a larger screen any more than they picked the smaller android tablets because the iPad was "too big"

If you think one or two specs are going to sway momentum, you haven't been paying attention much \

Edit: damn iOS 5 Safari on the iPad is FAST!
post #60 of 68
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Originally Posted by Aizmov View Post

The numbers are bad, Apple needs to figure out away to attract more buyers to the iPhone before it is too late. There will always be some diehard fanatics, but I find it hard to believe that the majority of Android or Blackberry users are biased.

Do you see those numbers? That`s 44%+42% of two iPhone generations, many of them still under contract
post #61 of 68
The media which had over dramatized the release of an iPhone 5, rumors so sure even MacUser had an article that it will be released. It goes to show that we can't believe what we read. It's because so many got it wrong now they are disappointed since they can't write how accurate their rumors were...funny how there was evidence of 4S all along and the media pushed it aside because they wanted to believe its time for a new iPhone design... I am not surprised of this finding. All my friends who have iPhone 4 want to upgrade...
post #62 of 68
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Originally Posted by xice View Post

Just upgraded from iPhone 4 32GB to iPhone 4S 64GB..

My iPhone 4 became a vibrator on Oct 4th.. (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=950117). It was out of warranty and no way of rebooting it..

Perhaps it was trying to tell me something..

Anyway, I took it as a sign for me to upgrade.

But your post is from Jun 24, 2010. Anyhoo, how long were you without an iPhone? Or did you still have an older model collecting dust? (like me)
post #63 of 68
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Originally Posted by shen View Post

Or, since we have other studies about the % of each group that says they will stay with their current brand, we can view the numbers another way. Correctly.

Most iPhone owners, a huge majority, say they will only get another iPhone, yet half don't want the 4s. In other words they will keep what they have. More than half of android users say they will not get a new version of the same phone, but some see reason to change to iPhones. In other words iPhones owners fall into two camps, those keeping their current iPhone and those upgrading. Almost none of them are considering another phone. Android users however are planning on a new phone, and some of them are looking at iPhones. The rest we don't know about what type they are considering.

Apple has a near 100% retention rate, as studies show. Android users are bouncing from phone to phone till they find one they like. And the numbers suggest that what they will eventually like is an iPhone. So how is this bad news for Apple?

Oh that is right, the bad news post was by a known troll...


As an Android user, coming from the Galaxy S....I found myself using several different phones (Android). Totally different exprience across the board. I personally like Samsung's the best....solid (OS updates/GPS issues are another thing). I absolutely LOATHE HTC phones.

If I weren't going to Apple for the 4S, I would stick with Samsung.

The bigger question would be how many of ANY BRAND (Do HTC users get another HTC phone?) stick with that brand.

Android users typically bounce because there's way too many features given the same OS on diffrent devices. Oh, but THEESE phones support Netflix. But these OTHER phones support 3D.

Issue with the Android OS is that there is way too much variety (which, many infact, be the basis for it's current success....ironically). Apple has a tight reign, but ensures the same experience for everyone. It's kind of lie being married vs whoring out.
post #64 of 68
To be fair, Apple provides a user experience that's almost guaranteed. It's harder to find fault if you get good customer service. Most people don't want to get out of the unfamiliar.....especially with companies they don't know.

Just like how Samsung is the king of TVs and most people that buy high end....get Samsung. Just depends on the industry.
post #65 of 68
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But your post is from Jun 24, 2010. Anyhoo, how long were you without an iPhone? Or did you still have an older model collecting dust? (like me)

I didn't last long at all without an iPhone. I 'borrowed' the company's iPhone used for testing purposes for my personal use till I got the 4S. (Shh..)

The older models I had weren't available (3G sold off and 3GS passed on to another family member) - Meh
post #66 of 68
I've had a Palm Centro (first smartphone), Samsung Vibrant, EVO 4G and Shift/ myTouch 3G, Blackberry 88900 and lastly a Nexus S. The most solid experience for me was the Blackberry Curve. My overall favorite was the Vibrant.

I kind of miss keyboards...
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I've had a Palm Centro (first smartphone), Samsung Vibrant, EVO 4G and Shift/ myTouch 3G, Blackberry 88900 and lastly a Nexus S. The most solid experience for me was the Blackberry Curve. My overall favorite was the Vibrant.

I kind of miss keyboards...

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post #68 of 68
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Originally Posted by dragan0405 View Post

Did you see those numbers? That`s 44%+42% of two iPhone generations, many of them still under contract

Actually, it's not.

42% of iPhone 4 users plan to upgrade. 44% of iPhone 3g and 3gs users plan to upgrade. That's an average of 43% of all users who plan to upgrade (if the number in each category is the same).

Of course, the numbers are fairly meaningless. Before the iPhone 4 was released, the overwhelming majority of iPhone 4 users said that they wouldn't upgrade to a 4S, but would do so if it was an iPhone 5 (which is a pretty stupid thing to say without knowing what each option entailed). Now that the phone is out, almost half of iPhone 4 users plan to upgrade. Frankly, I don't believe EITHER set of information. These "plan to upgrade" surveys have always been meaningless. It's far more important that Apple is selling record numbers of phones.
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