Samsung lawyer couldn't tell iPad and Galaxy Tab apart from 10 feet away - Page 2

It keeps getting worse for Samsung.

Maybe he couldn't tell from ten feet away.

well, i probably can't tell samsung tv and sony tv apart from 10 feet away.

Keyword: "might"

You could say that in every patent case. It's a given, and a non story.

That was my first thought. Maybe he did and was wrong?

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Um... Actually the others did have difficulty, as it took some time for them to decide which one was the Samsung tablet. That's what is meant by "A moment later." I guess it could be up for debate on exactly how long a "moment" is. Sounds to me like the lawyers for Samsung had to have a discussion to decide which was which.

Regardless, it proves the point that they are too similar and someone off the street asked the same question probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference until they were turned around to display the logos on the backs.

I hope that is the case. Samsung's greed was to much.

Apple is Samsung's largest customer with 8 billion in revenue

Was 8 billion enough for Samsung? No. Samsung had to backstab Apple by using same parts and design that Apple had.

Whatever? This is positively damning for Samsung. We're not talking about knock offs. We're talking about legit products that have been essentially copied...which is illegal.

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The judge's point is still valid. If all that distinguishes one from the other is aspect ratio, it's still a copied design.

I know, right? Samsung needs to lay off the photocopying

That's a 50/50 where I'd take choice.

haha. I thought you were serious for a second.

That's funny!

I would say the length of a moment is about the amount of time a judge needs to think "jesus, Samsungs own lawyers can't tell the difference".

Please, Jolie's been copying Kathy for years!!


Some good links, haven't seen those videos in a while! You are making an assumption that the gripe Apple has it related to muli-touch, and I don't think that's the case. Perhaps I'm wrong.

Whilst your links make your point well (assuming multi-touch is the issue in question here), the overwhelming feeling I get watching the clips is "what have Apple's competitors been doing with this technology for the last 5 years?"

Where is Microsoft's Surface? Apple have brought the wow factor of that first Adobe demo into people's homes in a way nobody else has. I think they deserve credit for that. I know that's not related to this case, it's just a thought. Therein likes a legal question, if MS and Adobe haven't used this technology and Apple has, is there patent really valid? To my knowledge, that's how the law sees it to some extent. A patent troll is someone who files a patent, does nothing with it and then sues others that do. Just spitballing.

The brilliance of Apple was to make those features demoed in your links into a coherent operating system. It's not as easy as it sounds. Moving photos around on a grey background and pinching them to zoom is a long way from a full OS.


That's a very valid point, more so than it appears. The issue here isn't whether the iPad and Galaxy Tab look the same - they undeniably do; the issue is whether or not the design elements of the iPad that look so similar in the Galaxy Tab are actually so intrinsic to the tablet form factor that they cannot be subject to an enforceable patent.

With televisions, you have to have a rectangle around a screen. There's only so much you can do with that stylistically without being simply pedantic.

Personally, I think Apple will ultimately have to concede that the iPad's form factor is inherent to the tablet form factor. Ultimately, the iPad is a screen with a black border and round edges. There's only to much you can do with that.

That said, Samsung take it to the wire. They copy docks and accessories and even their docking ports looks similar. They have the rows of icons with the springboard etc. It does all seem a little too much. I don't know if Apple can make that stick in court, but if I was Apple, I'd be hacked off too. To my mind, there is no doubt Samsung copy Apple, but if they didn't copy Apple I don't think there tablets would looks ENORMOUSLY different.


Can you imagine the headline if she'd guessed wrong? That's how lawyers think. If she says the Samsung Galaxy Tab is the iPad, she looses her job. It's that simple.

Maybe he is one of those people that watch 4:3 television stretched out to 16:9 and his perspective is all off.

It's funny because it's gotta be true!

Yes! And about the same amount of time to detect that poster you are quoting is a troll...

...A busy little troll, but a troll, nonetheless!

From a distance just about every LCD or Plasma television looks identical AND have the same aspect ratio too. I don't think similar looking fronts (remember, only the front was shown) of different sizes warrants design copy. Then again I am not a patent troll.

is she blonde??? just kidding

anyways still unprepared, it is funny been a high profile case like this one that they failed to recognize the product they represent in court.

Some iPads have a black screen with a White border.

In fact, if Sammy were smart, they'd pick a different color for their tablets -- maybe:

Glad to know you aren't a patent troll. Now who exactly is one???

Must be. Unless Samsung isn't paying their lawyers enough to be able to afford glasses, which is unlikely, then it must be that

Because they're well aware of the problems inherent in patent law and are exploiting them?

This coming from someone who parrots Steve Jobs' very own lines? I wouldn't be talking if I were you.

Yes, he's firing on all cylinders today, isn't he. In at least 3 or 4 threads.

Awww, too bad Apple can't pass that knowledge along to Samsung so it doesn't try to bring FRAND patents to the table as a defense.

This will just make it bad for tech over all. Can you tell a samsung Tv, Lg Tv, Sony TV, and Vizio TV from 20 feet away. This may set a precedent going the wrong way.

He must get paid by the word.

"Touché, Monsieur Pussy Cat!"

I think you're replying to the wrong comment, or you're lost.

Nope. The post acted as if Apple has some super secret mojo to manipulate patent law in its favor and I stated that too bad it can't pass that knowledge along to Samsung which is making foolish legal (and business) mistakes. Maybe you are the one who is lost.

You may be on to something, here....

How does one monetize trolling?

... Post lots of links and get paid for click-thrus, maybe?

Though they all pretty much take the same form, the logos at the bottom center of each of their bezels would be a dead giveaway.

No, some people know what you are talking about... though, that doesn't appear to include you!