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So what you are saying is that you prefer them mstone-washed?

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Dear Steve,
You have taught me so much about life.
1. Have a vision and a purpose.
2. Go after that vision and purpose.
3. Dont be afraid of other people when they get in the way of your vision and purpose.
4. Work hard and long, and when that is not enough, work harder.
5. Confront people when appropriate. It makes magic happen.
6. Make sure that the work produced is beautiful.
7. Make sure that the work produced is functional.
8. Dont be afraid to start over.
Your friend,
Sim

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You are seriously arguing that fire didn't exist until people invented it? So next you're going to tell me that nuclear fusion didn't exist before people invented it. I guess the Sun is powered by magic.

No, but even though Marconi is sometimes given credit for inventing radio, radio waves were also being emitted by the sun since the beginning of time. He was just the first to do something useful with them. When early humans finally developed enough cognitive reasoning, they learned to re-create fire. Before that time they relied on naturally occurring fire and tried to keep it burning as long as they could because they didn't know how to start a fire on their own.

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Of course fire existed before man harnessed it. But the ability to start a fire raised the quality of life for our species arguably more than anything else,

Another very significant invention which is sort of the opposite of fire, refrigeration, which probably advanced technology faster than any other invention because it allowed man the time to explore other intellectual endeavors since he was not out hunting, gathering and farming all the time. And yes ice existed before man so if you want to be technical about he didn't invent that either.

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post #47 of 89
Very Deserving.
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It would be nice if they would include Dennis Ritchie who just died. As the Inventor of Unix you might call him the grandpa of OSX.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15287391

People underestimate how important Unix is. It is Unix that powers every single iOS device and MacOS. iPhone/Ipad would never existed without Unix.

Many IT specialist (like me) switched to mac in 2001 when OSX was released.

Unix/Linux: Over upwards 700 million devices and computers. 50 years old OS with 0 viruses and under 5 malware (that all ask for Administrators password).

Still.... Trolls/non historians will some day understand what Steve did. Steve will go down in history as the man that changed history for mankind. He made the world better for each one of us.

Steve gave us the single greatest tool that humanity ever has had: The personal computer.

Steve has over 310 patent. Bill Gates 6. Larry Page 12.
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That he invented more practical storage media, that he invented more efficient monitors, that he invented better, lighter, more efficient batteries, and that he invented better building materials. He did none of that. He was a visionary. He saw in the clay a beautiful vase. But he didn't invent clay.

Uh... Mac Dog said exactly that.
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Sure they are.

For 99.7% of people buying Levis, they buy the ones not made in the USA.

But there are certain ones that are made in the USA.

http://us.levi.com/family/index.jsp?categoryId=11326985


For $178.00 for American made blue jeans, I can see why the 99% crowd buy foreign made fake Levi blue jeans.

It is probably why Apple has their products manufactured in the countries they do today.

Based on American made Levi blue jeans at $178.00 versus your Walmart special fake Levi's imported and retail for $21.94 ( ttp://www.walmart.com/ip/Signature-by-Levi-Strauss-Co.-Big-Men-s-Carpenter-Jeans/5679619 ), I wonder what that price disparity would be for Macs, iPods, iPads, and iPhones?

Apple definitely wouldn't have the market cap it enjoys today, I bet!
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post #51 of 89
October 21st is the 10 year anniversary of the iPod. That seems like a more fitting day to celebrate Steve Jobs in my opinion.
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For $178.00 for American made blue jeans, I can see why the 99% crowd buy foreign made fake Levi blue jeans.

Pshh. Who buys from the manufacturer?

MSRP is for suckers. The "99%" crowd is the 75% who are too stupid to go bargain hunting so they just don't buy stuff. And then there's the 5% who do buy from Levi.

I got myself a pair of 501s for my presentation outfit and I paid $25. Legit 501s. Legit $25. From a store.

You're absolutely right; nearly $200 for a single article of clothing is abject nonsense. Heaven's sake.

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There is no denying the affect that Steve Jobs had on the tech industry. Personally, I have a tremendous amount of respect for what he accomplished in his too brief career.

However, without a doubt, "Steve Jobs Day" is stupid beyond belief and there is no question in my mind that Mr. Jobs himself, would not approve.

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post #54 of 89
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

You're absolutely right; nearly $200 for a single article of clothing is abject nonsense. Heaven's sake.

You'd probably be all over it in second if Levi released $500 SJ Signature Jeans.

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However, without a doubt, "Steve Jobs Day" is stupid beyond belief and there is no question in my mind that Mr. Jobs himself, would not approve.

Maybe we should wait until Bill Gates passes away and then it could be more like President's Day except for Computer Founders, including Richie and Berners-Lee.

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You'd probably be all over it in second if Levi released $500 SJ Signature Jeans.

How in the world would they differ from regular 501s since that's what Steve already wears?

Sorry, wore.

And no, I wouldn't spend more than $50 for a single article of clothing (other than outerwear because apparently you can't find good cheap coats) and shoes (because apparently you can't find good shoes cheaper than $60).

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post #57 of 89
Looks like the residents of California have elected a governor that loves to spend money that the state doesn't have.
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Looks like the residents of California have elected a governor that loves to spend money that the state doesn't have.


Yep those tweets are pricey indeed.

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Sorry, wore.

He's probably still wearing them.

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Originally Posted by island hermit View Post

Uh... Mac Dog said exactly that.

he's implying (see: directly saying) that without Steve Jobs influence we'd be stuck with early 90s PCs with Floppy disks.
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Originally Posted by AbsoluteDesignz View Post

he's implying (see: directly saying) that without Steve Jobs influence we'd be stuck with early 90s PCs with Floppy disks.

So's this guy:

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"I guess I shouldn't have gone to a party where the eggnog was spiked, and maybe I shouldn't have watched the movie It's a Wonderful Life while leafing through MacWeek. But anyway, I had the weirdest dream last night -- like a bizarre black-and-white movie that went like this:

Jimmy Stewart stars as Steve "Jobs" Bailey, who runs a beleaguered but beloved small-town computer company. For years, big monopolist Bill "Gates" Potter has been wielding his power and money to gain control of the town. And for years, Steve has fought for survival: "This town needs my measly, one-horse computer, if only to have something for people to use instead of Windows!" But now an angry mob is banging on Apple's front door, panicking. "The press says your company is doomed!" yells one man. "You killed the clones! We're going to Windows!" calls another. "We want out of our investment!" they shout. Steve, a master showman, calms them. "Don't do it! If Potter gets complete control of the desktop, you'll be forced to buy his bloatware and pay for his cruddy upgrades forever! We can get through this, but we've got to have faith and stick together!" The crowd decides to give him one more chance. But the day before Christmas, something terrible happens: On his way to the bank, the company's financial man, Uncle Gilly, somehow manages to lose $1.7 billion. With eyes flashing, Steve grabs the befuddled Gilly by the lapels. "Where's that money, you stupid old fool? Don't you realize what this means? It means bankruptcy and scandal! Get out of my company --and don't come back!"

Desperate and afraid, Steve heads to Martini's, a local Internet cafe,and drowns his sorrows in an iced cappuccino. Surfing the Web at one of the cafe's Macs, all he finds online is second-guessing, sniping by critics, and terrible market-share numbers. As a blizzard rages, Steve drives his car crazily toward the river. "Oh, what's the use?!" he exclaims. "We've lost the war. Windows rules the world. After everything I've worked for, the Mac is going to be obliterated! Think of all the passion and effort these last 15 years -- wasted! Think of the billions of dollars, hundreds of companies, millions of people...." He stands on the bridge, staring at the freezing, roiling river below -- and finally hurls himself over the railing.

After a moment of floundering in the chilly water, however, he's pulled to safety by a bulbous-nosed oddball.

"Who are you?!" Steve splutters angrily.

"Name's Clarence -- I mean Claris," says the guy. "I'm your guardian angel. I've been sent down to help you -- it's my last chance to earn my wings."

"Nobody can help me," says Steve bitterly. "If I hadn't created the Mac, everybody'd be a lot happier: Mr. Potter, the media, even our customers. Hell, we'd all be better off if the Mac had never been invented at all!" Music swirls. The wind howls. The tattoo on Steve's right buttock --Buzz Lightyear from Toy Story -- vanishes. Steve pats the empty pocket where he usually carries his Newton. "What gives?"

"You've got your wish," says Claris. "You never invented the Mac. It never existed. You haven't a care in the world."

"Look, little fella, go off and haunt somebody else," Steve mutters. He heads over to Martini's Internet cafe for a good stiff drink. But he's shocked at the difference inside. "My God, look at the people using these computers! Both of them -- they look like math professors!"

"They are," says Claris.

"What is this, a museum? It looks like those computers are running DOS!"

"Good eye!" says Claris. "DOS version 25.01, in fact -- the very latest."

"I don't get it," Steve says.

"DOS is a lot better and faster these days, but it hasn't occurred to anybody to market a computer with icons and menus yet. There's no such thing as Windows -- after all, there never was a Mac interface for Microsoft to copy."

"But this equipment is ancient!" Steve exclaims. "No sound, no CD-ROM drive, not even 3.5-inch floppies!"

"Those aren't antiques!" Claris says. "They're state-of-the-art TRS-80s, complete with the latest 12X, 5-inch-floppy drives. Don't forget, Steve: The Mac introduced and standardized all that good stuff you named."

"But that's nuts!" Steve explodes. "You mean to tell me that the 46 percent of American households with computers are all using DOS?"

"Correction: All 9 percent of American households," says Claris cheerfully. "Without a graphic interface, computers are still too complicated to be popular."

"Bartender!" shouts Steve. "You don't have a copy of Wired here, do you? I've got to read up on this crazy reality!" The bartender glares. "I don't know what you're wired on, pal, but either stop talking crazy or get outta my shop."

"No such thing as Wired," whispers Claris. "Never was. Before you wished the Mac away, most magazines were produced entirely on the Mac. Besides, Wired would be awfully thin without the Web."

"Without the -- now, wait just a minute!" Horrified, Steve rushes over to one of the PCs and connects to the Internet. "You call this the Net? It looks like a text-only BBS -- and there's practically nobody online! Where's Navigator? Where's Internet Explorer? Where's the Web, for Pete's sake?"

"Oh, I see," Claris smiles sympathetically. "You must be referring to all those technologies that spun off from the concept of a graphic interface. Look, Steve. Until the Mac made the mouse standard, there was no such thing as point and click. And without clicking, there could be no Web... and no Web companies. Believe it or not, Marc Andreesen works in a Burger King in Cincinnati."

Steve scoffs. "Well, look, if you apply that logic, then PageMaker wouldn't exist either. Photoshop, Illustrator, FreeHand, America Online, digital movies -- all that stuff began life on the Mac."

"You're getting it," Claris says. He holds up a copy of Time magazine. "Check out the cover price."

Steve gasps. "Eight bucks? They've got a lot of nerve!"

"Labor costs. They're still pasting type onto master pages with hotwax."

"You're crazy!" screams Steve. "I'm going back to my office at Apple!"He drives like a madman back to Cupertino--but the sign that greets him there doesn't say, "Welcome to Apple." It says, "Welcome to Microsoft South."

"Sorry, Steve; Apple went out of business in 1985," says Claris. "You see, you really did have a wonderful machine! See what a mistake it was to wish it away?"

Steve is sobbing, barely listening. "OK, then -- I'll go to my office at Pixar!"

"You don't have an office at Pixar," Claris reminds him. "There was no Mac to make you rich enough to buy Pixar!"

Steve has had enough. He rushes desperately back to the icy bridge over the river. "Please, God, bring it back! Bring it back! I don't care about market share! Please! I want the Mac to live again!" Music, wind, heavenly voices -- and then snow begins softly falling. "Hey, Steve! You all right?" calls out Steve's friend Larry from apassing helicopter. Steve pats his pocket -- the Newton is there again! It's all back! Steve runs through the town, delirious with joy. "Merry Christmas, Wired! Merry Christmas, Internet! Merry Christmas, wonderful old Microsoft!" And now his office is filled with smiling people whose lives the Mac has touched. There's old Mr. Chiat/Day the adman. There's Yanni the musician. And there's Mr. Spielberg the moviemaker. As the Apple board starts singing "Auld Lang Syne," somebody boots up a Power Mac. Steve smiles at the startup sound. "You know what they say," he tells the crowd. "Every time you hear a startup chime, an angel just got his wings."

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Nicely put!
For Steve.

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well he did create apple
and wasn't it the apple that was involved in discovery of gravity
and gravity was essential in getting sticks to remain weighted down in a pile so that they could burn
and wasn't gravity needed for the wheel to gain speed down a hill enabling people to both escape enemies and enjoy thrills
and both of those led to the need for language to express your joy at being alive

so with out steve there would be no apple, no gravity, no fire, no wheel, no language and most importantly no joy in being alive

I thought JPGR invented apple.
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Originally Posted by elroth View Post

Make it on his birthday, not his death day.

W could make it the following Sunday, like Easter.
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Originally Posted by Flaneur View Post

Steve's accomplishment was to humanize the computer.

Someone once did that with fire, which was out there already, only needed storing, portability, manufacture. Steve did that with fire, only it was mental fire, the electronic difference engine, the computer.

He also combined the computer with the wheel, as in "bicycle for the mind," meaning a human-scaled, low-footprint vehicle for the mind. A rideable computer, a portable, traveling one.

Gutenberg made a suitcase, not a bicycle, for the mind, using language.

Steve wanted to make a clean machine for the world, ...Porsche, who was the first to humanize the car with the Volkswagen and the early Porsches.

The computer is about amplifying language, like the book, but it can animate and manufacture, as well as spread and broadcast. Jobs's bicycle has become (intentionally) everybody's own TV network, much more influential a vehicle than any thing on wheels.


Steve's fire is food. roasted and sauted for nutritious and tasty snacking! Globs of sugary sweet vitamins, minerals and steroids for the brain!

Like the wheel, Apple will keep rolling, and once the living room has been fully nestled under its protective wing, Apple be as ubiquitous as the most primitive of microwave ovens, using supernatural forces to strike flint and steel. Anywhere.

Ancient Magic of Impossible Technology, like a goat's intestine sealed to hold water. The sustinence of the Apple brazier is second only to the inclined plane!

But on one thing we agree: Gutenburg's mind needs a bicycle to carry that suitcase! Couldn't have said it better!
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too many people don't know what our ancestors knew, how to create fire. Day hikes often become an unexpected night out due to weather changes, getting lost, injury, etc. It's not hard to learn how to make fire, but takes some knowledge and a fair bit of practice. And can save your life, so it's well worth knowing. It can even be valuable in urban survival scenarios.



Better to simply carry your iPhone. Thanks Steve!
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I thought JPGR invented apple.

Not anymore. It hasn't been that way for years. Not since iTunes.
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Growing up in PA and seeing him and Woz at the first West Coast Computer Faire... my mentors... the biggest tears will flow when Apple stops the memorial on the home page... since I was 12 he was the aspiration... I just can't wrap my head around a world without him
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The black mock turtleneck is around $175.

No idea where you get that number from, but whatever. It's from Issey Miyake, a bit more expensive than that.

Here are two articles on the black turtleneck:

How Steve Jobs fell in love with the black turtleneck (Walter Isaacson talks with Steve)

Steve Jobs' black turtleneck reportedly explained in biography (LA Times)
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Originally Posted by PhilBoogie View Post

No idea where you get that number from, but whatever. It's from Issey Miyake, a bit more expensive than that.

Supposedly, Steve also used another brand called St. Croix and that's where the figure came from.

http://fashionista.com/2011/10/steve...ease-in-sales/
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Originally Posted by Simsonic View Post

Dear Steve,
You have taught me so much about life.
1. Have a vision and a purpose.
2. Go after that vision and purpose.
3. Dont be afraid of other people when they get in the way of your vision and purpose.
4. Work hard and long, and when that is not enough, work harder.
5. Confront people when appropriate. It makes magic happen.
6. Make sure that the work produced is beautiful.
7. Make sure that the work produced is functional.
8. Dont be afraid to start over.
Your friend,
Sim

This.
post #72 of 89
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Originally Posted by kpluck View Post

There is no denying the affect that Steve Jobs had on the tech industry. Personally, I have a tremendous amount of respect for what he accomplished in his too brief career.

However, without a doubt, "Steve Jobs Day" is stupid beyond belief and there is no question in my mind that Mr. Jobs himself, would not approve.

-kpluck


There are millions of people on this planet who celebrate the birth and lives of prophets and gods who never existed. I think it represents a step in the right direction when we celebrate a real human being who exhibited a few virtues (even if only a few) that we aspire to ourselves. I don't want to worship. I want to admire. I don't want to be on my knees. I want to stand and look up. I don't know or care about the rest of his life, but I do care that there was someone who had a purpose and acted on it. Is he the only one? No. But the purpose is to recognize the virtue. We have enough saints on our calender telling us the highest virtue is to sacrifice reason and our lives to something else. We have very few heroes on that same calender who remind me that life is also worth living, too, for its own sake. I don't want a statue to worship, I don't want a chant. I want that simple, raw, sincere admiration that doesn't elevate a man above his accomplishment. I suppose if people want to worship Lord Steve on that day, then yeah, they've missed the point.

As for whether Jobs would approve...who cares? I'm not interested in the particularities of his personal code. Tributes are not for the people who are dead...what use have they for it? It's for the people who want to have a reason to remember what is important to them. Purpose and action are important to me. Paying tribute to a dead man is for the religious. To me, the purpose of remembering someone is not to worship, but to remind myself of what I aspire to in my own life. If that makes me better at what I do...I think people who exhibit purpose, passion, clarity of vision, and act on it, will all appreciate it. My calender is inundated with the celebration of religious mythology...I could do with a few more real human beings who, while not being perfect, will continue to remind me of areas in my life I want to improve. Am I going to light candles? No. But I'll have the subtlest tweak of a smile in the corner of my mouth, and I'll think about my own passion. That, to me, is worth it.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

Legit 501s. Legit $25. From a store.

Legit 501s. Legit $25. Made in Colombia. Or Mexico. Or China. Or Cambodia. Or Brazil. That's not what we're talking about. If I'm wrong and yours are made in the USA, then send proof.

Like this:

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I know that they set Sunday for Steve Jobs Day in California but there was already a Steve Jobs Day on Friday October 14. You can find out more by going to:

http://www.stevejobsday2011.com
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Legit 501s. Legit $25. Made in Colombia. Or Mexico. Or China. Or Cambodia. Or Brazil. That's not what we're talking about. If I'm wrong and yours are made in the USA, then send proof.

I'm sorry, have I offended you or something?

I'm relating an experience from my life and all you can do is say "post proof; even if it says Levi's on it, that doesn't mean a thing"?

This isn't an Apple product rumor. This isn't me claiming to have an iPad 3 already.

These are jeans.

I'm not gonna dig my jeans out and go through them all; it's not winter yet. If I remember this months down the road, I'll come back with a PICTURE OF MY PANTS, I suppose.

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I'm sorry, have I offended you or something?

I'm relating an experience from my life and all you can do is say "post proof; even if it says Levi's on it, that doesn't mean a thing"?

This isn't an Apple product rumor. This isn't me claiming to have an iPad 3 already.

These are jeans.

I'm not gonna dig my jeans out and go through them all; it's not winter yet. If I remember this months down the road, I'll come back with a PICTURE OF MY PANTS, I suppose.

There are reasons why I like you Skil...this post is one of them. lol
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You forgot the New Balance sneakers.

For most people, it'll probably be too expensive to replicate his style exactly. The black mock turtleneck is around $175. He most likely wore made in the US Levis, those are around $200. The New Balance sneakers probably aren't that expensive though.

New Balance Sneakers, Proudly Made in Maine. Maybe that's why Maine was the first in the US with the Laptop program

Steve felt a state that made sneakers this great, could only grow if it was to have access to the world via Apple computers.

Hey, just typing and thinking out loud (and kidding on this).

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Originally Posted by PhilBoogie View Post

No idea where you get that number from, but whatever. It's from Issey Miyake, a bit more expensive than that.

Here are two articles on the black turtleneck:

How Steve Jobs fell in love with the black turtleneck (Walter Isaacson talks with Steve)

Steve Jobs' black turtleneck reportedly explained in biography (LA Times)

That whole story is just bizarre. He wanted a signature look for himself? He hired a designer to manufacture one for him? WTF?

How much more weird shit will there be in the bio?
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New Balance Sneakers, Proudly Made in Maine.

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The vast majority of New Balance sneakers are made outside the US. Like, pretty much all of them.

And if Steve was serious about what you claim, his best bet would have been to put an Apple factory in Maine. But he didn't, because maximum profits were much more important.

Hey - there's plenty of good stuff about Steve. Making up weird stories about "Made in the USA" is like totally unnecessary.
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