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First Look: Using iPhone 4S with Siri voice assistant

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Most of the new features in iOS 5 simply run faster on the iPhone 4S, but one major new feature is exclusive to the new model: Siri voice assistant. Here's a look at how it works in action, responding to a variety of requests.

Apart from iPhone 4S, other iOS devices upgraded to run the free new iOS 5 continue to supply Voice Control, which responds to a variety of voice commands such as "what time is it?" or "play songs by MGMT," or "call Tim Cook."

The new Siri dramatically expands upon Voice Control, offering a much wider, more powerful vocabulary for creating Notes, composing Emails and Messages, navigating and changing Calendar events, setting new Reminders, and taking dictation within apps virtually anywhere you could type.

Siri also plugs into external services, integrating with smart artificial intelligence servers hosted by Apple to decipher not just basic commands but natural language questions. It then provides answers through Google or Bing, Wolfram Alpha, Wikipedia, Yelp, and Yahoo weather and stock market information.



Voice recognition

Siri offloads voice recognition to Apple's servers, which apparently run software licensed from Nuance. The text to speech component of Siri is very good, far easier to begin using and more accurate than other systems I've used.

More importantly, however, Siri isn't just voice recognition and dictation. The heart of Siri is a new AI system that works to understand what you mean, not just transcribe the words you say. So while it's nice to be able to talk rather than type, the real functionality of Siri is the ability to respond to what you want to do.

This isn't always perfect, but it's very usable. Generally, when Siri fails to understand what you ask, it's because of a lack of context. You can start over and the same words will be correctly recognized.

As a test of Siri's core voice recognition, I read back the previous lines into the iPhone 4S, and quickly got the following text back as a result. I wasn't speaking with any special diction and was using a normal speaking speed. The result isn't perfect, but is very good, especially considering that you can touch to select problems and correct them. Siri didn't drop in some of the punctuation (I was barely stopping for commas), and got a few words wrong (marked in bold below):

Siri offloads voice recognition to Apple servers which apparently run software license from Nuance. The text-to-speech component of Siri is very good far easier to begin using a more accurate than other systems I've used. More importantly however serious and just voice recognition and dictation. The heart of Siri is a new AI system that works to understand what you mean not just transcribe the words you say. so what's nice to be old to talk rather than type the real functionality of Siri's ability to respond to what you want to do. This isn't always perfect but very usable generally when Siri fails to understand what you ask is because a lot of context you can start over in the same words of me correctly recognized.



Idea recognition

It's apparent when using Siri that you don't have to say everything perfectly, or mouth just the right words in the just the right order, or even have what you say be correctly recognized, because Siri looks at the context of your conversation with it to provide a useful answer more often than not.

If the response you get isn't what you were looking for, simply repeating or correcting your request generally delivers what you want. You don't have to say things according to a specific set of commands.

This use of context to interpret your commands means that Siri is most likely to get confused if you suddenly change what you're talking about without signaling that you want to start something new. You can always request to "start over."

Voice navigation

Some of the most useful things Siri does is perform jobs that would otherwise require typing in a bunch of text. Asking for a map of an area, or directions to a destination, is a key example. Or asking for weather, stock prices, definitions of terms and so on. You can also type the microphone icon in the virtual keyboard to enter text via your voice in most apps.

To create new Notes or to address and compose emails, you don't even need to hit a dictation button. You just tell Siri what you want to do. In the video below, I ask for directions, pull up an answer to a conversion question, ask Siri to compose a new Note, and ask to "call my mom," which prompts Siri to ask what my mom's name is, cross reference her Contact, and present three phone numbers I have associated with her. It will remember who I have identified as my mom, sister, brother or father next time I ask.

Also shown in the video is how Siri handles interruptions from multitasking notifications. The alarm that goes off while Siri is transcribing a Note for me has no impact on the user interface or the accuracy of the Note.



On page 2 of 3: Conversational context

Conversational context

In a second video, I ask about a weekday, a question that isn't correctly recognized; asking it again works however. An answer about stock prices and weather work as expected.

A general knowledge question and a request for a city's population get quick answers from Wolfram Alpha. Siri's use of context in answering questions is indicated when I ask about breakfast in San Francisco's Cow Hollow neighborhood. At first, while correctly recognizing the text of my question, Siri doesn't provide a useful answer. But when I ask again, despite failing to recognize the words I used, the context of the previous request resulted in Siri offering useful information.

I immediately changed the topic to getting gas in the Mission District, and Siri responds with breakfast options there instead. But when I repeat
that I'm looking for gas, Siri provides the right information.

Siri also helps you pull up information saved in your Notes (including those you've just dictated), offering a powerful way to delegate things you're supposed to remember to your smartphone. This feels addictive and easy.

Siri also helps you schedule and change your calendar, although in my example, it failed to immediately do what I asked. However, with a little persistence the system not only got it right, but also presented helpful information about potential calendar conflicts. After I thought I was finished with the calendar, I asked an unrelated question, which Siri stumbled on as it continued to talk about my calendar.

After appearing to double book the appointment I had been working on, I simply asked Siri to review what it had done to tomorrow's schedule. Everything was fine, no duplications and no missing events due to the change not being finished.

I tried asking about changing Pesos into US dollars, but Siri seemed stuck in my Calendar and unable to figure out what I was trying to do, despite catching the words correctly. However, after asking to "start over," Siri seemed able to get back on track and provide a useful answer.



On page 3 of 3: Siri outside of iPhone 4S

Siri outside of iPhone 4S

It's not clear how much of Siri's exclusive availability on the iPhone 4S is due to its far more powerful processor, and how much is simply Apple reserving the feature as an incentive to upgrade.

In previous iPhone hardware releases, Apple similarly reserved video capture as an exclusive of the iPhone 3GS, and made FaceTime exclusive to iPhone 4. While those features have been hacked to work on earlier models, they don't run nearly as well on the less powerful hardware.

Were Apple to make Siri available on the iPhone 4, it would likely work half as fast and half as well, likely tainting the experience of the majority of those able to immediately try it out. On iPhone 4S, the new feature works brilliantly, although not always flawlessly.

Apart from being far more sophisticated in what it can do, Siri also has a significant limitation over the Voice Control it replaces on the 4S: it only works if you have a network connection. In Airplane Mode, Siri won't work at all. The old Voice Control will, but its commands (and accuracy) are so limited that it isn't likely to get used that much.

Siri promises to change how often people use voice command by making it far more likely to work as expected, and to do functions that are valuable enough to remember how to use it. At some point, Apple will likely bring Siri to the Mac along with iOS 5's new iMessage chat, just as it did over the last year with FaceTime in iOS 4.

Siri is also likely to make its way to iPad 2, which is certainly powerful enough to run the software. It's less certain that Siri will be adapted to last year's iPhone 4 or the current crop of iPod touch models, none of which use the same speedy A5 chip that power the iPad 2 and iPhone 4S.


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Trying to test Siri on a friend's 4S this evening was completely unsuccessful. It understood the words just fine - reproducing them on the screen - but then, after 10 or 15 seconds, responded that something "seemed to have gone wrong" and to "try again". I'm wondering if it is another case of the servers being swamped.
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In no point in this article is the fact that Siri is BETA software mentioned.

Suggestion to AppleInsider: make sure you CLEARLY communicate to your readership the parameters of the article (if they aren't clear). You have a lot of ground to make up.
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In no point in this article is the fact that Siri is BETA software mentioned.

Suggestion to AppleInsider: make sure you CLEARLY communicate to your readership the parameters of the article (if they aren't clear). You have a lot of ground to make up.

When it works, it appears to be pretty good for beta software.
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I will absolutely do that. Just as soon as I figure out what on earth you are talking about...
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[EDIT: no, not worth the time nor effort.]
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Pretty damn good for a beta software, how much more when Apple gets it out of beta, adds more services and integration. Not to mention when they open it to 3rd party developers.
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I will absolutely do that. Just as soon as I figure out what on earth you are talking about...

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I've been playing with Siri for a few hours AND I LOVE IT.


Siri is absolutely awesome!

can't wait for the Siri API and move improvements and integration with the more apps!

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No wonder Siri was confused...

"...you can start over in the same words of me correctly recognized."

Whaaaaaat?

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post #12 of 220
Siri looks great, and has great potential. Like a human being, you learn what it responds to and how it will feel about what you're saying and you know exactly what to say. I'm sure each person who uses it will see improvements and realise when to say things such as 'start over'. My iPhone 4S is still awaiting delivery but I'll be using Siri for hours when it does!

I assume Siri will reach '1.0' status alongside iPad 3 in the spring of 2012. Then we'll see updates with each iOS increment. Give it a year and it will be extraordinary.
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If Apple was looking for this to make me forget that I got the SAME phone for the 2nd year in a row they have failed. The ONLY reason I upgraded was because I wanted a white iPhone and since I have gotten my phone things have going wrong with it! My partner got one at the same time and when I opened his to get it ready for him I noticed he had bars immediately! My phone said no service out of the package !! Then his phone was ready immediately out of the box and mine didnt work for 2-3 hrs. Now my Siri keeps telling me its having a hard time connecting to the network and hardly ever gets what I am saying!
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IT seems on the west coast- as all of us get our phones- siri can't connect to the network.. yet a friend of mine in Chicago says her phone is working great with Siri.

I would think it's initially a smart move to make siri live to a central network to learn and adapt- but it's had dot say right now because it's kind of back firing for now. no doubt it will clear up and become awesome- but apple needs to make sure the end game is to make it a client on each device- that syncs between devices for each user. connect it with Apis to apps- and we have a revolution of tech on ours hands. no doubt.
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...it seems that another end game is that it should always be aware- and literally button free.. just announce Siri - and it activates.. but then again- it'd be nice to nam fit shithead too. or fartsmoker. or peen or. you know.. even uncle buck. or mr belvedere. or hank.


and of course- a wide variety of voices!
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"Change 500 mexican pesos into US dollars."

This is not a *question*; why are you surprised that there is no answer?
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No wonder Siri was confused...

"...you can start over in the same words of me correctly recognized."

Whaaaaaat?

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"Change 500 mexican pesos into US dollars."


Evidently, not only is proofreading nonexistent, half the time Siri didn't understand his requests was because DED speaks like he has a mouth-full of marbles....

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I hope the majority of people can put a 'spoken' sentence together better than the above posters have structured their comments. If not, Siri's going to have a tough time figuring out what the hell most of you are talking about... Maybe you guys are not native English speakers or maybe some of you haven't completed grade school yet. Don't mean to be harsh, but take two seconds to re-read your comments prior to posting... I'm struggling to get the full meaning from what some of you have written.

Are we all in such a hurry that we can't take a minute to re-read our comments prior to posting?

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Thanks for another detailed and well written article Daniel. I've been waiting to read about Siri's real-world performance. Guess if Siri can understand you, with your "mouth full of marbles" then it might have a chance... Not sure I agree with the marbles comment, but it was kind of funny to read.

I really hope Siri does continue to improve over time. I'm pretty blown away with what Siri can do today, at launch. Just imagine where it will be in a year with what it will learn based on interaction from users! It's my understanding that it does "learn" based on user interaction.

Wish I were in Ireland again. It'd be funny to see how Siri would deal with their version of spoken English... I love the Irish folks, but understanding what they're saying can be tough, as an American that is. Hope they've got an Irish Siri worked out...
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DED who is your doctor because brother you are getting some GOOD DRUGS.

We tested this today against a $49 Samsung Focus running Windows Phone 7 Mango. Siri Effed up with understanding us just as much or as less really as the Windows Phone.

Siri was just as slow as the WP7 as well. Yes siri can come up with some funny canned answers, but it is not light years ahead of everything else.

The 4S was not really any faster than the Windows Phone, in fact in lagged behind ever so slightly in a few cases. I think that Metro is just so watered down it moves faster.

The 4 inch Super Amoled screen on the Focus was brighter and more vibrant. Angry Birds looked more eye poping on the Focus.

The build quality of the 4S is simply much better...but its a phone....that gets put in a case to protect the glass.

The camera on the 4S is its best feature. It can take good photos as fast as you can tap the button....very amazing.

The flow of iOS is starting to get old. There are some nice features in the Metro UI that really make it easier to navigate, plus stuff like email just looks better compared to iOS.

DED you spin it well my brother. The iPhone 4S is a nice phone and will sell well, but its the same shite different day and Apple better step it up next year.
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I'm totally underwhelmed with siri so far. The name of my local pub is "The Swan" and it appears frequently in my texts...

The closest siri can get it to this is " 's one " or "This one" - neither of which will get people to come down the pub. Even spelling it out produces weird results like "SW a N" and there doesn't seem to be any way to correct mistakes or train the recognition.

If I can't use it to send the simplest of text messages I send every week then I certainly won't be using it for anything more complicated.
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Trying to test Siri on a friend's 4S this evening was completely unsuccessful. It understood the words just fine - reproducing them on the screen - but then, after 10 or 15 seconds, responded that something "seemed to have gone wrong" and to "try again". I'm wondering if it is another case of the servers being swamped.

The Apple servers seemed down during the evening.

Siri was fantastic for me until about 8PM....it then went down till about 1AM (complaining about not being able to connect to the network, i.e. code for the servers are swamped), and has been working magnificently since.
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I'm totally underwhelmed with siri so far. The name of my local pub is "The Swan" and it appears frequently in my texts...

The closest siri can get it to this is " 's one " or "This one" - neither of which will get people to come down the pub. Even spelling it out produces weird results like "SW a N" and there doesn't seem to be any way to correct mistakes or train the recognition.

If I can't use it to send the simplest of text messages I send every week then I certainly won't be using it for anything more complicated.

Alright, I JUST tested "Find the Swan" and Siri found 3 places named the swan next to me I didn't know even existed.

Secondly, you can easily correct what Siri recorded. Simply tap the text bubble, and it brings up a keyboard to edit, and Siri will process that as soon as you hit done.

Literally, there is nothing right in your entire comment. I can't tell if its deliberate lies, or a lack of understanding of the feature on your part.
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Siri was just as slow as the WP7 as well. Yes siri can come up with some funny canned answers, but it is not light years ahead of everything else.

The 4S was not really any faster than the Windows Phone, in fact in lagged behind ever so slightly in a few cases. I think that Metro is just so watered down it moves faster.

If you are thinking of Siri as voice recognition, you are doing it wrong...

Voice recognition is just the interface to Siri...the real kicker is the AI, which, as far as I know, doesn't exist on any other phone (on any other computer, really)....

Try telling Siri..."Remind me to call my mom at noon tomorrow"...Freakin genius.
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The flow of iOS is starting to get old. There are some nice features in the Metro UI that really make it easier to navigate, plus stuff like email just looks better compared to iOS.

DED you spin it well my brother. The iPhone 4S is a nice phone and will sell well, but its the same shite different day and Apple better step it up next year.

Huh? In an article talking about Siri, why in the world are you bringing up the flow and navigation capabilities of the 2 OS'es, and then blaming DED for "spinning".

Is DED supposed to compare every possible part of every smartphone OS (including one that isn't even top 3) in every article he writes, or otherwise is open to accusations of "spinning"?

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using voice within txt is actually useful and works fairly well -- the rest of siri is a a bit of a joke and frankly feels gimmicky. i haven't read all the details on how the system works but it's pretty obvious it's a server side solution -- maybe once the novelty wears off and the traffic let's up a little, it will at least become a little faster? time will tell but it really wouldn't surprise me if apple eventually focuses attention to other features in upcoming iphone revs. needless to say, humanity need not worry about hal or terminator any time soon.
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Huh? In an article talking about Siri, why in the world are you bringing up the flow and navigation capabilities of the 2 OS'es, and then blaming DED for "spinning".

Is DED supposed to compare every possible part of every smartphone OS (including one that isn't even top 3) in every article he writes, or otherwise is open to accusations of "spinning"?


Read any of that member's other posts and you'll know why.
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If you are thinking of Siri as voice recognition, you are doing it wrong...

Voice recognition is just the interface to Siri...the real kicker is the AI, which, as far as I know, doesn't exist on any other phone (on any other computer, really)....

Try telling Siri..."Remind me to call my mom at noon tomorrow"...Freakin genius.

Better yet, try asking a Windows or Android phone that and see how far it gets you. I'm astonished at the blinkers some partisans are willing to put on to ignore what Siri is.
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Siri Effed up with understanding us just as much or as less really as the Windows Phone.

Ahh, I know you are trying to say Windows phone was better here - but you see, the English sentence above says that 'Siri Effed up less than Windows Phone'.

I'm sorry but I can't take your experience as something that will affect my success with the phone. It doesn't sound like it is a fault of Siri, more your English.
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If Apple was looking for this to make me forget that I got the SAME phone for the 2nd year in a row they have failed. The ONLY reason I upgraded was because I wanted a white iPhone and since I have gotten my phone things have going wrong with it! My partner got one at the same time and when I opened his to get it ready for him I noticed he had bars immediately! My phone said no service out of the package !! Then his phone was ready immediately out of the box and mine didnt work for 2-3 hrs. Now my Siri keeps telling me its having a hard time connecting to the network and hardly ever gets what I am saying!

I'm sure with millions of new devices immediately accessing the siri servers there is bound to be down time. Once Apple optimizes said servers and the beta build gets finalized all will be fine.

And while the 4s is visually identical to the 4 it is undoubtedly a new phone. The 4's design is beautiful (though I think a Tad too tiny) there'd be literally no reason to depart from it so soon.
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Apple is coming out with the iPhone 5 sometime in the Spring of 2012. For now, they will be releasing sort of a "stop gap" between the iPhone 4 and iPhone 5 models. That's the iPhone 4S which is coming out this week.

Unlikely, iPhone releases will most probably remain in the Fall from now on. The waning importance of iPod and waxing of IPad, it's likely to be iPad in the Spring, maybe moved to June, and iPhone/iPod in the Fall from now on.
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LOL. I wouldn't hold my breath on that. If anything, I see Apple releasing the same model on T-Mobile in about six months unless Apple promised Sprint otherwise.

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Apple is coming out with the iPhone 5 sometime in the Spring of 2012. For now, they will be releasing sort of a "stop gap" between the iPhone 4 and iPhone 5 models. That's the iPhone 4S which is coming out this week.
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Siri frequently had long awkward pauses yesterday evening but now the performance has become considerably snappier. I have to say, now that the performance has improved in the past 24 hours, I am surprisingly impressed...
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I'm sure with millions of new devices immediately accessing the siri servers there is bound to be down time. Once Apple optimizes said servers and the beta build gets finalized all will be fine.

And while the 4s is visually identical to the 4 it is undoubtedly a new phone. The 4's design is beautiful (though I think a Tad too tiny) there'd be literally no reason to depart from it so soon.

I could care less if there were billions of new devices immediately accessing the Siri server my point is Apple should have planned for this. This is the 5th iPhone launch now and they STILL cant get it right ?! I have had each model and EVERY time its a nightmare ! I feel that Apple had MORE than enough time ( considering the phone didn't launch till Oct. ) to prepare for what they should have assumed would be a very successful launch! In this article I was trying to say that my partners works just fine, he was able to make routes, alarms and all no problems. We activated our phones at the same time and my experience was different than his! His Siri works very well, mine can't seem to connect to the network STILL! Kinks should have been expected and compensated for before the launch of this new phone and integrated app!
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Alright, I JUST tested "Find the Swan" and Siri found 3 places named the swan next to me I didn't know even existed.

Secondly, you can easily correct what Siri recorded. Simply tap the text bubble, and it brings up a keyboard to edit, and Siri will process that as soon as you hit done.

Literally, there is nothing right in your entire comment. I can't tell if its deliberate lies, or a lack of understanding of the feature on your part.

I wasn't asking siri to find The Swan. I already know where it is. I said it was my local pub FFS.

Try "Text <contact>" then for the text message "Swan 930" or "Meet me in The Swan 930" and see what you get.

I didn't know about the text correct feature... but that just brings you into iMessage to correct a text message that I could have typed correctly in the first place.

As for your comment "literally there is nothing right...", words fail me (obviously not as bad as words failing siri however) You do know the meaning of the word "literally" do you? Here is a little tutorial:
- The name of my local pub is "The Swan" www.theswanchiswick.co.uk if you want to know
- It appears frequently in my texts : 5 times in the last week
- I just tried 10 times to include the name "The Swan" or "Swan" in a text. 100% failure rate. 's one, this one and the closest it got was "swan land"
- Correcting mistakes. You got that right! Woo-hoo!
- Training? So if I correct a mistake, does that train it? If it does, it isn't a very good learner. 100% failure rate even after correcting the text.

So your comment "literally there is nothing right" is literally wrong.
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I wasn't asking siri to find The Swan. I already know where it is. I said it was my local pub FFS.

Try "Text <contact>" then for the text message "Swan 930" or "Meet me in The Swan 930" and see what you get.

I didn't know about the text correct feature... but that just brings you into iMessage to correct a text message that I could have typed correctly in the first place.

As for your comment "literally there is nothing right...", words fail me (obviously not as bad as words failing siri however) You do know the meaning of the word "literally" do you? Here is a little tutorial:
- The name of my local pub is "The Swan" www.theswanchiswick.co.uk if you want to know
- It appears frequently in my texts : 5 times in the last week
- I just tried 10 times to include the name "The Swan" or "Swan" in a text. 100% failure rate. 's one, this one and the closest it got was "swan land"
- Correcting mistakes. You got that right! Woo-hoo!
- Training? So if I correct a mistake, does that train it? If it does, it isn't a very good learner. 100% failure rate even after correcting the text.

So your comment "literally there is nothing right" is literally wrong.

I can see you're upset and I don't want to add to it by being insulting, but I find both of your posts very confusing. It's very hard to understand what you are doing/describing or what you want Siri to do. Perhaps Siri thinks so also.
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Huh? In an article talking about Siri, why in the world are you bringing up the flow and navigation capabilities of the 2 OS'es, and then blaming DED for "spinning".

Is DED supposed to compare every possible part of every smartphone OS (including one that isn't even top 3) in every article he writes, or otherwise is open to accusations of "spinning"?


I started off comparing Siri to the WP7 voice stuff. Both are not fantastic at either speed or always picking up what the user is saying, neither was better than each other. IMHO if a user has to repeat stuff very often the feature will be a novelty on both and quickly ignored.

If you take away Siri, the iPhone 4S is not that big of a deal....except for the camera, like I stated. The OS is started to feel dated to me, as Metro has some very cool features I would like to see in iOS.

You have people like DED, Gruber and Alex Linsey on TWIT that make the Apple community look like cool aid drinking idiots, praising anything Apple releases. I just read a gruber post on why the 3.5inch screen is better and Apple has it right and everyone else is wrong with their 4+ inch screens. Yet when the iPhone 5 or whatever comes with a bigger screen, Apple will have it right. Alex Linsey praised the hell out of the new Final Cut while the user community basically was outraged.
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Better yet, try asking a Windows or Android phone that and see how far it gets you. I'm astonished at the blinkers some partisans are willing to put on to ignore what Siri is.

I get that Siri is better past voice dictation on the other phones especially since it uses Apple servers to crunch stuff, BUT if you have to repeat what you said to Siri like the others, then people will stop using it.....like they do on others.

I take care of the phones at my company, and users have the choice of Android, iOS and WP7 on our corporate ATT plan. None of the Android/WP7 users use the voice stuff after the initial newness wares off because of these same voice regconition issues.....that Siri seems to have as well. Three of set around yesterday and tested Siri against the WP7 for a few hours.

Talking slow into your phone, repeating and then waiting is going to old fast. Hopefully Apple will improve that.
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I can see you're upset and I don't want to add to it by being insulting, but I find both of your posts very confusing. It's very hard to understand what you are doing/describing or what you want Siri to do. Perhaps Siri thinks so also.

Nah, not upset. Just giving the previous reply a lesson on what the word "literally" means!

All I was trying to do was get siri to send a text message.
- Hold down home button to get siri prompt
- Say "text <contact name>"
- Siri responds with "What do you want to say to <contact name>"
- Say "Swan 930"
- Siri responds with "'s one 930"

My guess is that when composing the body of a text message, there is a lot less context to work with than after a word like "text" or "call" when siri looks for a name, or "find" when siri looks for a place so that is why the voice recognition falls down when words or phrases have similar sounds.

For example, I tried to compose a text saying "Wales deserved to win" (rugby fans will know what I am referring to here ) siri came back with "Wheels deserved to win".
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Originally Posted by MacRR View Post

...it seems that another end game is that it should always be aware- and literally button free.. just announce Siri - and it activates.. but then again- it'd be nice to nam fit shithead too. or fartsmoker. or peen or. you know.. even uncle buck. or mr belvedere. or hank.


and of course- a wide variety of voices!


Great! The ladies could give Siri a more appropriate name... then based on the user's accent she would invoke it by saying "My Happiness".... Or "My, ha-Penis"
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