Sales of Apple's iPhone 4S top four million in first weekend - Page 2

And don't forget the best part: most of us are happy and satisfied with the 4s that we purchased!

Please understand that a phone is often considered to be a personal item. As such, Siri is expecting the owners voice ... which it will learn about and continue to get more information and do a better job. When you bring in a new voice (daughter) ... now you have created a challenge that was not the intent... IHMO

Same problem. Ordered at an AT&T Store 10/7 @ 10:30 EST. Due to complications in my account, I cannot go through Apple or even AT&T online, but had to have a face to face with ATT.

I was told I had already missed the 10/14 batch, and it would be 14-21 days. I was NOT told that there would be phones held back from preorders so that they could have stock on 10/14 for walk-ins. I found this out over the weekend, and have already gone back today (Monday 10/17) to cancel my preorder, but now they are out of 32gb black. So, I'm still looking at 7-14 days, and those who walked in to that store 7 days after I ordered already have one. Mine is still listed as Backordered.

...and don't forget that there are quite a few of us who cannot yet even get our hands on one, despite pre-ordering 10/7...

Only the biggest, baddest tech company in the world is capable of that. Apple. Just Apple.

Nobody else is big enough! You think that LG could strongarm giant telcos all over the friggin world? You think that Exxon Mobil could introduce a product like Apple? Morton-Thiokol? Dow Chamical? General Electric? HA!

Not even Sony or Microsoft could do anything like this. Apple is big enough to do just about anything that a gigantic corporation could dream about. And do it better than anybody, so its customers keep giving it more and more and more money. Because Apple is THAT good.

And its going to get even better as Apple gets bigger. They have more money than the Catholic Church! More money than the United States Government! Think of the possibilities! Apple will continue to grow, and will continue to get stronger.

We ain't seen nothing yet.

But that doesn't stop all the Apple Haters from protesting against big companies on Wall Street. They think that corporations are bad, and that they have too much power. But they are just jealous because they can't afford Apple products. So they sleep in a tent in the middle of the filthy dirty city and complain about how corporations are too big and too powerful.

But what they don't realize is that they too could simply buy an Apple product and be like the 1% who make huge amounts of money with corporations. Apple is part of the 1%, but we can all be part of Apple. iPhones are now FREE! Hello? Don't realize that you stupid, foolish 99%? Let me repeat: You can be part of the 1% for FREE! Simply get an Apple product.

Apple is HUGE. Apople is a corporate behemoth. And we can all participate in their victories. Hell, we can contribute to the winning team by simply buying their products! For FREE!

But the haters will just go an and on about how corporate power is a Bad Thing. Some people are never satisfied, but that doesn't stop Apple from raking in the moolah.

Apple's products are THAT good.

They are the biggest of the corporate behemoths. These loudmouths better remember that when they whine and moan about corporate power. The corporation with the MOST power is Apple!

I wonder if any other manufacturer has sold an Android based phone in these numbers... In a month, much less 72 hours?

Will the Nexus Prime with ICS match the i4S sales numbers. After all, it is supposed to be the biggest, baddest Android based phone so far.

I was being facetious. 4 million in the first weekend is outstanding. I suspect getting Siri ready for her debut was the reason for the delay (if it was a delay). Regardless, the outcome is good because it meant lots of phones available at the sales kickoff. And I only own 10,000 shares in my dreams. I used to be a stock holder but sold when it looked like Apple was going down the tubes. Unfortunately, while my hindsight is 20/20, my foresight could use some Coke-bottle glasses!

You are way off base with this, if you think that the "protesters" are protesting companies like Apple. Hint: Its called Occupy "WALL STREET", you know, the folks who needed a government bailout to survive? And still pay their ex and current CEOs millions?

Sure, there is a fringe that is just purely anti-corporate in general. But that is not the crux of the movement, or what is driving it. A lot of the protestors are Apple fans, and in fact, would much rather the rest of the companies be like Apple, where the CEO is paid $1 a year, and makes his money from stock options, i.e., you make money if you actually add value.

Apple is the biggest, baddest stock on Wall Street. It is owned by huge corporate interests, like Hedge Funds and their ilk.

Apple makes the 1% VERY rich. It makes them richer and richer year in and year out.

Apple is the best thing to ever happen to Wall Street. It makes huge profits for the Hedge Funds. It is the biggest thing on Wall Street, and it is getting bigger and bigger. More money, more money, more money.

More PROFIT!

Dow Chemical? Plastics? HA!

The 1% own Apple. The 99% give Apple money. But the haters will protest instead of simply buying an Apple product and joining the 1%.

These statements show you have absolutely no understanding of what the 1% actually means, but that isn't a surprise given your posting history. There is 1% of the population that owns over 90% of the US. You don't join the 1% by buying a product from the biggest company in the world. Stop posting about this b/c you're just being idiotic

Ahhh, is the wittle wright wing forum troll having a bad day? Is he? Whose a good troll! Whose a good troll!

Come on, you can do it! Post something that we can get upset about. Come on! I will get you a treat!

Not a Luxury, an investment...

I know some will not care about this post, but the iphone for me is a money making tool, and now with siri, even becomes better..

It Saves me time, in my business, time is money, and the iphone already gave me a tool that made me a much better time manager.

I thought Siri would be a "toy" (I confess, I am kind of a geek) but when I started using it I said holy sh__ this is an amazing tool! setting appointments is a breeze, checking emails, finding info, etc, it does not work 100% of the time, but it does about 80%, and the more I know the system, the better the results.

Also, it download way faster, I have not have ONE drop call yet, that is amazing, because in my home I used to have a few drop calls everyday..

I have the 64, I invested $399 plus tax and another $50 for some accessories, around $500 total, but here is the kicker, in $$$$, I see my productivity increasing, and those $500 we will back to me in not time, in less than 30 days...oh, and my old Iphone4? I can sell it in ebay for around $400.. cool, it is almost like a FREE upgrade! TRy it with any other phone!


George, a confessed...

The twoll is on a woll.

He's found a new MEME!!!

". . . biggest and baddest . . ."!

Is there any way to redeem this pest?

Try to dispute the points I made rather than engage in name-calling. Grow up.

Take away the frills, the fancy language, the attitude, and dispute what I said:

The 1% own Apple. The 99% give Apple money.

Woke up with your best pal saluting an empty bed this morning?

If you think Wall Street is making money primarily off investments then you don't know anything about Wall Street.

Those days are long gone, where banks would make money by investing in companies. Some P/E firms, and VC funds do this, but the vast majority of money is made in packaging investments so the next sucker doesnt know what he is buying.

Wall Street would have collapsed because of this ridiculous game of hot potato, if the government (of the people, by the people, for the 1%) hadn't stepped in to save them.

Yes - I'm going to have to second that. If you don't have anything intelligent to add, ridicule is not the answer. You can always ignore instead.

Nope. Stock brokers, for example, are part of Wall Street and they make money by, among other things, getting people to buy Apple stock. Every time we see AAPL go up in price, we know that huge amounts of money have been made by the Street, by Financial Service Companies and the retail brokers who work for them, in commissions alone.

Most of the money is made by the gigantic corporations like Apple and their CEOs, but huge amounts are made by the "bottom tier" of the 1% too, who don't make money from equity ownership, but merely by picking up little crumbs whenever they pass a piece of the pie to one of the big guys.

I think we agree - one need not own AAPL in order to profit from it. But if you DO own it, you love to see the 99% buying Apple products.

iLounge has done what appears to be a pretty thorough test of the new 4S. Their experience with battery life compared to the iPhone4 differs a bit from Apple's spec claims.

http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/rev...b-32gb-64gb/P5

"Perhaps the biggest surprise in our iPhone 4S testing was its battery life. We suspected that something unusual was going on when Apple published its initial iPhone 4S battery life estimates, which oddly showed the new device improving in 3G talk time, standing still in 3G Internet use, and falling behind in both standby time and Wi-Fi Internet use. How could the new device improve or stand still in some categories and fall short in others that were seemingly related? After three days of non-stop testing, we had a clear answer: the iPhone 4S is generally more power hungry than the iPhone 4, and Apple has only made the slightest capacity improvement to the iPhone 4Ss battery. Moreover, whereas Apple underpromised with the iPhone 4s battery estimates, it comes closer to overpromising with the iPhone 4S."

They would have sold even more had the registration systems been working. I walked into a Long Island Apple store on Friday and asked how long it would take to get a phone. They said the systems were "slow" but they could take me right away. But after trying three times, the AT&T servers seemed to be down, so I couldn't proceed. They had people lining up who were willing to wait until the servers came back up, but I didn't want to wait, so I canceled my order. So I wonder how many people there were like myself who didn't wait and then you have to add the number of people who didn't even attempt to try because they had the impression that there would be long lines everywhere.

My local AT&T store didn't look excessively busy either, but (for reasons I won't go into here) prefer to buy the phone directly from Apple.

For the record, the Apple clerk who helped me was nice enough, but he didn't seem to know much of anything technical. He had barely heard of Exchange Server and he couldn't answer my questions about whether a restore would restore my Exchange address book.

Pre-ordered without drama eight hours after it was available. Arrived on the 14th, as promised. Activated in seconds, but I waited a day.

This has been my experience with ATT each time. Also have seen 7-8Mbps here in Portland.

But commissions are made regardless of whether people are buying Apple stock or any other stock and commissions are made regardless of whether you buy or sell, so I don't think one can legimately argue that brokers are encouraging people to buy Apple just so they make commissions.

Besides, many small investors go through services like E-Trade which have discounted commissions or if they're big investors, they pay based upon their total asset value, so they can trade as often as they'd like without paying additional commissions.

News reports were out immediately after the announcement, which itself was liveblogged at numerous web sites. Nearly all commentary during and immediately after the announcement was negative. If you look at the stock prices of that day, you will see that the drop in Apple's stock coincided almost exactly with the announcement.

We ordered a couple 4S models through work that were supposed to show up Friday and didn't. AT&T called up late afternoon and offered a $50 credit per phone for the mix-up. They showed up this morning....so not all bad news!

I agree with you that ignoring is best, but he got me riled up there for a second. He's trying to manufacture a controversy by injecting a political issue into a simple story of record-breaking sales.

Therefore, I don't agree with you that he should be "seconded," because he is raising a bogus argument that should not be engaged in any way, because it's completely, cynically contrived to poison the discussion.

This is most definitely true!

My daughter and her 3 children's last name starts with "Gi" was in "Gilbert".

Siri pronounced it "Ji" as in "Jim".

I told Siri the name of each of them -- as in the contacts list. Then, repeatedly asked for them by the correct pronunciation.

After a while, Siri picked up the correct pronunciation!

Siri calls me: "Grandpa Wonderful"

Also, when someone hijacks a thread like that they get quoted a bunch so putting them on ignore doesn't help.

Hey GG, as usual, can't wait to spread the bad news about Apple, huh?

So predictable.

It seems the computer gets to know you, then.

This is going to be very, very big, as big or bigger than touch.

But it's the truth. Why shouldn't it be reported. Granted this has nothing to do with sales. So in reality it's off topic.

Doesn't matter whether the argument is bogus or not. If it's bogus then refute and expose it as such, or just ignore it. Juvenile insults represent the archetypal ad hominem response (in this case "you are a troll therefore you are wrong"), and contribute nothing. That was the point that I seconded - nothing to do with the original argument or the intent behind it.

Right you are, ignore is the best policy.

Refute is the worst, because it perpetuates the original deceptive baiting, It springs the troll trap. Second worst is to resort to anti-troll insult. Guilty as charged, no contest.

You make no sense. The protests are about wall street financial services firms that destroyed the American economy and then received trillions of dollars in bail out money, and they are resisting being regulated, while still giving out huge bonuses to their executives.

Whether someone agrees with the protestors or not, it is fairly clear that the aim isn't about individual corporations.

I got my pre-order at Best Buy. Went there at 8 AM, no one was there. Worked fine, except the bill I sent in on Tuesday hadn't processed yet, so we had to run down to the AT&T store, cut the line (with a very nice person at the head willing to wait an extra few moments while we used the kiosk to pay the bill), pay the bill, and ran back to best buy. And for preordering I got a killer set of Headphones free. Got a new case at Target yesterday. I am adoring my phone. I haven't had a new one in ages and it feels so nice to get something so nice and new.

Here are the actual figures from that ilounge report:

Cellular Data. Apple promises up to 6 hours of 3G Internet use.
iPhone 4 6:47 run time 407 +13.06%
AT&T iPhone 4S 5:54 run time 354 -1.67%
Verizon iPhone 4S 5:53 353 -1.94%
Sprint iPhone 4S 5:23 323 -10.28%

Wi-Fi Data. Apple promises up to 9 hours of Wi-Fi Internet use, down from 10 hours on the iPhone 4
iPhone 4 8:35 515 -14.17% (from 10 hr promise)
iPhone 4S 8:30 510 -5.56% (from 9 hr promise)
iPhone 4 iOS 5 8:18 498 -17% (from 10 hr promise)

Cellular Calling. Apple now promises up to 8 hours of 3G calling time with the iPhone 4S, up from 7 on the iPhone 4.
AT&T iPhone 4 7:06 426 +1.43% (from 7 hr promise)
AT&T iPhone 4S 7:16 436 -9.17% (from 8 hr promise)
Verizon iPhone 4S 8:27 507 +5.63% (from 8 hr promise)
Sprint iPhone 4S 6:27 387 -19.37% (from 8 hr promise)



Cellular data: All about an hour less than the iPhone 4, but only a few minutes behind actual promised time. Sprint is lowest.

WiFi Data: 5 minutes less than the iPhone 4 and both about a half hour under promised time

Cellular Calling: More time promised than iPhone 4. The 4 beat it's promise by 6 minutes, The AT&T 4S is 44 minutes under, Verizon is 27 mins over and Sprint is well in last again by being 93 minutes under promise.

I'm wondering if there isn't some firmware issue specific to the Sprint model, b/c it's numbers are significantly different than the other 2 and nothing really stands out for why that would be occurring. Hopefully those times can be improved w/updates.

EDIT: Updated w/the +/- from each phone based on their original promise. So the iPhone 4 is compared against it's 10 hr promise for Wi-Fi, where the 4S is promised against 9 hrs, so it is compared w/that promise.

Apple makes is money by developing and refining technology - it is not borrowing money from the government and then trying to loan it back to people with interest here.

Is Apple a saint? No. I don't like this latest lobbying effort by them trying to get money into the US they have in foreign accounts back in tax-free, but then again, if I had that much money tied up I'd look for a way out too, so I can't be that angry for them trying to do something with a few lobbyists. But really, Apple financial people, just pay the damned taxes.

But overall, I think if more companies were like Apple we'd be better off then if we had more BoAs and Koch Industries.

anyone know if Best Buy has any yet?

would prefer to get 18 months of no interest - even if that means waiting a few weeks to get one.

How interesting. What was the conversation like? In other words, how did you communicate pronunciation to Siri?

This is silly. So what if the stock dropped right after the iPhone announcement? Apple is hedge fund managers favorite stock. The hedge funds benefit when the stock goes up and down. The reality is the stock dropped in a extremely weak market. The only thing buoying the stock up in the weak market was rumors in the form of so called news articles about a product Apple gave no indications of announcing. Like with earnings, many people bought the stock before keynote with the sole intention of selling it afterwards. Same thing with earnings. Apple often times announces record breaking earnings just to have the stock drop the next day.

Apple is the most manipulated stock on the market. If you have money, guts, and watch the stock regularly you can make a lot of money.

It is ridiculous for companies like Apple to want to bring this money back into the country tax free. The reason so much money is overseas is because a lot of so called American companies in the greatest economic boom of our times got greedy and lobbied to do away with import taxes in the form of so called free trade agreements.

Those import taxes made it so american workers didn't have to compete with foreign products made by Countries where they couldn't compete fairly because of a foreign subsidized work force. For instance, China. Prior to the eighties, Dell, Apple, Gateway, HP all made their products in the US or European Countries, such as Ireland, that didn't have a subsidized work force.

PRoducts that came from Countries like China were taxed to take away the advantage. This tax paid for government services. American companies didn't want to pay the import tax so they made things in the US and other countries we could compete fairly with. This kept a lot of jobs here, creating wages, taxes, and pride.

WIth the so called free trade agreement companies not only didn't have to pay import taxes, but also got to claim tax breaks for running operations overseas. They even saved more in taxes by claiming a certain percentage of their money was generated overseas. If I made money overseas and wanted to bring it home, I am going to pay a tax. Big companies want to bring that home tax free not to create jobs, but to give out tax free bonuses. If they want to bring the money back tax free there should be a guarantee the government is getting something in return equally as valuable.

Companies want to call themselves American, but do not want to contribute taxes to build the infrastructure of our Country, and do not want to hire Americans. McDonalds is actually experimenting with having its drive through orders handled overseas so when you place an order you will be talking to perhaps somebody from India.


Soon we will be like Egypt where we live in slums and half the population begs for a living.


PS.

I am a Apple stock holder and am happy about the increased sales. As soon as I get a chance to play with one, I may buy two 4S phones.