Originally Posted by island hermit
... and you completely missed my argument. My argument was that it will be a fail because it's the best that Samsung can do and I believe it won't be enough in the end game to help Samsung to compete effectively with Apple... even though you believe that Samsung is only trying to compete with other Android phone manufacturers. For every iPhone sold it is one smartphone not sold by an android manufacturer, ie. Samsung. The business models of the two companies may be different but the end result is the same... making money. How can it not matter to either company if the other company is taking sales from them... no matter which OS is in the phone. [eventually the smartphone market will be saturated just as wireless in the US is today... how do you pull customers away from the competition... reputation, service, marketing, features. It sounds as if you are trying to say that because Apple and Samsung have different business models they don't want each others customers... what?!]
Just to let you know... Solipsism is right. Thread after thread is filled with Android fans saying exactly what he is trying to relay to you. Hell, I tried to say it to you and you started some crap about subsets etc.
... but you must be right because you said so.
Oh, and by the way... the very first comment in this thread was an attack on the iPhone 4S black levels. C'mon... does that sound like an Apple fan defending the iPhone 4S... give me a break.
1) The Nexus isn't the best Samsung can do. It's very comparable to the (existing) Gs2 phones, and there's already other devices in the pipeline. To samsung, the best they can do are phones they put touchwiz on, EG the Galaxy S2, the S3 when they announce it, or the upcoming Note.
2) I didn't say samsung was only competing with Android phones. I said that there wouldn't be a single android phone to beat the iphone because if someone wants iOS, they get an iphone. If someone wants android they MIGHT get a samsung, or an HTC, or an LG, or a Motorola, or a (insert the dozens of other manufacturers there) If you can't see the difference, I don't know what else to tell you. Samsung and Apple are going after the SAME people, Google isn't. And even samsung is taking a different approach, one that IS making them record breaking profits. Again, if you can't see the fact that samsung approaches phone releases differently, I'd invite you to open your eyes. This isn't rocket science, but it's a common fallacy that people on this site just don't seem to get. They fall into the trap of believing that the ONLY way for a company to succeed is if they do everything like Apple, and that no other business plans are feasible. The financial results of HTC and Samsung beg to differ.
3) Solipsism isn't right, not this time. He's right about a lot of things, but he has this problem where he instantly assumes that every person who prefers something other than iOS is secretly the same person and they secretly hold the same view. This is called Stereotyping. You apparently have it to. I don't confuse him with Hill60, even though they both love apple. He shouldn't do the same to me, and neither should you. You made a generalization about all android fans, one that a lot of the most vocal on this forum don't even qualify for.
Side Note: The reason there are so many "android fans" here is because of DED and his intentionally gutter-born articles. The headlines are great for SEO, I'll give him that, but because they're so great with SEO, they draw a lot of attention. The quality of his "journalism" and his unveiled opinions are usually reserved for the forums of some corner of the internet without a decent moderator. AI gives him top billing. You reap what you sow.
4) That wasn't an attack. That was someone pointing out there were tradeoffs (believe it or not, that IS a tradeoff of LCD) They didn't say the screen sucked, or attack apple for it. You're reading into it. This "argument" started with Mr. Angry posting his usual, poorly and selectively researched trash and publishing it under one of his well known pseudonames