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post #41 of 220
10/21/11 at 4:58pm
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Originally Posted by tinman0 View Post

And you don't think the first day sales figures of the iPad1 put a smile on his face? 300k units?

I can understand that he was down after the iPad speech - who wouldn't be? But that first day of shipping, he would have been bouncing off the ceiling. And the fact that he proved all the pundits wrong would have been even better.

That's why I enjoy watching the iPad 2 keynote so much... When Steve said "Competitors flummoxed", you can see the joy from his heart.

And... At that time I could not imagine he would die within the year....
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post #42 of 220
10/21/11 at 5:01pm
There were quite a few people who mocked the original iPad when it first came out, and guess what, each and every one of these people are fucking morons. They were also dead wrong, not to mention being totally clueless and ignorant of new technology. No wonder Steve Jobs was pissed at retarded people with shit for brains who only spoke trash about the iPad.

These people lacked the insight and vision to see just how truly revolutionary a device such as the iPad was when it was first introduced. The naysayers were wrong back then and they're still wrong now, but that's how it goes when somebody is a closeminded individual. When the electric lightbulb was first introduced, the great grandparents of the people who mocked the iPad were busy mocking and laughing at the lightbulb, while they were holding candles in their hands, with hot wax melting down unto their hands.

In contrast to these knuckledragging neanderthals, there were also many millions of smart people who know an amazing device when they see one, and these people went out and snapped up iPads as fast as they could.

The Ipad has currently sold more than anybody's wildest estimates. What is it? Over 40 million so far and counting?

And meanwhile the knuckledraggers will continue dragging their knuckles until the next revolutionary device comes along which they also won't comprehend or understand, and the story continues.
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post #43 of 220
10/21/11 at 5:07pm
Well. There really isnt any reason now with an A5 processor we at least can't have an option to turn on or off Flash. Lack of Flash does cripple the device somewhat.
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post #44 of 220
10/21/11 at 5:08pm
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"With Apple now being run by Tim Cook and the executive team Jobs assembled and orchestrated, it remains to be see if the media will continue to mock and denigrate its products while enthusiastically recommending alternatives that are almost always inferior, poorly designed and deeply flawed. "

You have GOT to be kidding.

People who have been around for longer than a few years will remember that every Apple launch of ANYTHING is greeted with squealing ecstasy from fanboys, magazine cover stories bordering on outright fellatio, and standing ovations from everyone else.

The idea that Apple is the underdog in the media coverage department is flat-out false.

Even Apple would agree with me -- and I'm a total fan.

He's 100% correct about the tech media and, increasingly, the mainstream media. Look at how Android 4.0 has been received. If Apple released a major iOS version with Android 4.0's anaemic feature list, they'd be utterly torn to shreds. You are absolutely, utterly delusional if you think the media isn't harder on Apple products than it is on Android.
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post #45 of 220
10/21/11 at 5:09pm
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Originally Posted by thataveragejoe View Post

But the original criticism was warranted, it basically was a giant ipod Touch at launch and Apple improved the iPad immensely since then. They launched a tablet that initially couldn't even multitask. Now it's world class leading product.

WRONG. It was awesome from DAY 1. I bought one on day 1 and I don't ever recall being let down. I was amazed from day 1. Multi-tasking? Whatever.

As for the "big iPod" comment. That is such a stupid criticism. That's like saying a swimming pool is "just a big bathtub".
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post #46 of 220
10/21/11 at 5:13pm
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

No. This is historical revisionism you are indulging in here.

The "missing multi-tasking" is a function of the OS not the iPad and was available within a month of it's launch anyway. The iPad sold like gangbusters from day one regardless of that fact. It wasn't hobbled, missing any parts, or incomplete in any way.

No one denies SJ's brilliant showmanship. He could sell you the Brooklyn Bridge if you believed it. He was DaVinci - yes but also he was PT Barnum.
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post #47 of 220
10/21/11 at 5:15pm
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Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

This article appears to be more about the [real or imagined] slights that DED has received over the years -- rather than Steve's disappointment with the initial reception of the iPad.

I'm with you on this, Dick. DED suffered the slings and arrows of an unending barrage of outrageous comments, and this may be his opportunity for a huge counterattack. Perhaps it's overdone, but he does have a point. Some of the critics in the media had it coming.

Aside from that, let me share an iPad experience. We were in Florida on April 30, 2010 the day the first 3G iPads went on sale - halfway through a 3,000-mile vacation road trip, visiting our kids and their families. With that portability and wireless capability, I can assure you that the second half of our road trip was a lot richer and more interesting than the first. For almost 18 months now, our two iPads have performed flawlessly. When we're away from home, they let us navigate, search for local food and lodging, stream Internet audio, and use apps like EyeTV Remote and StreamToMe to access digital entertainment on our IMacs at home. MobileMe and iDisk have let us keep our address book, contacts, calendar and files synced and current wherever we are and on whatever iDevice we're using. I don't need the photo and movie capability of an iPad 2 since we can shoot content and transfer from our iPhones. Depending on what features will be incorporated in the iPad 3, then will be the time we will probably upgrade.

So when the revisionist historians make claims that the first iPads were crippled and that it took a software update like multitasking to make them worthwhile, my wife and I can put the lie to their claims. We were there. We used the iPads from 3G Day One. Our experience was awesome from the git-go and has only gotten better.

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post #48 of 220
10/21/11 at 5:18pm
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Originally Posted by Jonamac View Post

This article said a lot of things I feel too.

I find the general attitude towards Apple to be very symptomatic of society as a whole right now. It's cynical, twisted, self-important and self-serving. Apple are positive, relentlessly so, and some people just cannot stand that. That says more about them than it does about Apple.

Yes, what are lot of people are forgetting when they say "it was a disappointment" is that the reaction wasn't just "it's disappointing" it was months of frothing insanity and outright gloating that Apple had finally fallen. The media went crazy for several months and just heaped scorn on the product. It wasn't coverage, it was madness. I'd never seen anything like it from the tech press (actually, you rarely see such an outpouring of cynicism and hatred even in politics). It was obvious the "pundits" had been waiting for Apple to trip up and were gleefully bashing out article after article about why it was a failure. It didn't stop until the first sales figures were reported.
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post #49 of 220
10/21/11 at 5:19pm
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Originally Posted by Takeo View Post

WRONG. It was awesome from DAY 1. I bought one on day 1 and I don't ever recall being let down. I was amazed from day 1. Multi-tasking? Whatever.

As for the "big iPod" comment. That is such a stupid criticism. That's like saying a swimming pool is "just a big bathtub".

No it's not- what did it do that the iPod Touch couldn't? Except display larger images?
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post #50 of 220
10/21/11 at 5:24pm
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No it's not- what did it do that the iPod Touch couldn't? Except display larger images?

3G. Pages. Numbers. Keynote. Tons of apps like weather radar in motion that were especially suited to a larger screen. That's for starters. Want more?

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post #51 of 220
10/21/11 at 5:25pm
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Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

This article appears to be more about the [real or imagined] slights that DED has received over the years -- rather than Steve's disappointment with the initial reception of the iPad.

Yes. It is a classic.

And clearly DED == Apple.
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post #52 of 220
10/21/11 at 5:33pm
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fucking morons
dead wrong
totally clueless
ignorant
pissed at
retarded people
shit for brains
spoke trash
naysayers
closeminded individual.


When the electric lightbulb was first introduced, the great grandparents of the people who mocked the iPad were busy mocking and laughing at the lightbulb, while they were holding candles in their hands, with hot wax melting down unto their hands.


knuckledragging neanderthals
knuckledraggers



My favorite part is the hot wax melting down "unto the hands" of elderly people laughing (hysterically, I imagine) at the light bulb.

Wow.
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post #53 of 220
10/21/11 at 5:34pm
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Originally Posted by bdkennedy1 View Post

Why would a visionary care what people initially think? I saw most of the potential when it was introduced. The iPod was criticized even more than the iPad.

Yeah, it's enough to make a genius depressed. They always seem to be missing the point, trashing Apple until they make a boatload of money, then they're fine. The amount of Jobs-worship by the pundits since his death is somewhat sickening.

I'm getting the 4S next month, his valedictory product.
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post #54 of 220
10/21/11 at 5:34pm
You had to have an iPad 1 to have an iPad 2.

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But the original criticism was warranted, it basically was a giant ipod Touch at launch and Apple improved the iPad immensely since then. They launched a tablet that initially couldn't even multitask. Now it's world class leading product.
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post #55 of 220
10/21/11 at 5:36pm
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My theory is this.


If you put your pants on one leg at a time and report to work for some Boss in the hopes of collection a check two weeks later then don't tell me SH** about what you think it hot or not.

What did Jobs expect? He could have stopped working years ago and would have lived comfortably. You don't go the to lackey for advice...what do they know? They aren't even smart enough to put themselves in a position where they don't have to work.

Amen brother. I could not have said it better myself.
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post #56 of 220
10/21/11 at 5:38pm
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Well. There really isnt any reason now with an A5 processor we at least can't have an option to turn on or off Flash. Lack of Flash does cripple the device somewhat.

Tell me how that will be in a year. In two.

Why waste precious cycles on crap? Do you enjoy the security leaks more, or the slowness?
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post #57 of 220
10/21/11 at 5:39pm
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Originally Posted by haruhiko View Post

This is absolutely stupid. If Microsoft introduces an application store software for Windows it won't be on Windows XP too.

Not because Microsoft said so.
But because it is life!.

Why should it be different?

XBox is a closed system, PS as well, but people are annoyed that iOS is not licensed, as if Apple has NO right to think different.
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post #58 of 220
10/21/11 at 5:44pm
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No it's not- what did it do that the iPod Touch couldn't? Except display larger images?

it opened the door to the future that the iPad has become, dummy. some of us were smart enuff to see that coming - as it did fairly quickly - while the boo-birds obsessed on what it hadn't done yet that second. that is always the Apple story, which is DED's point.

Siri is the same today - it's a beta! do you think Apple is going to stop here in terms of what it can do? get a clue!
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post #59 of 220
10/21/11 at 6:08pm
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But the original criticism was warranted, it basically was a giant ipod Touch at launch and Apple improved the iPad immensely since then. They launched a tablet that initially couldn't even multitask. Now it's world class leading product.

It was only warranted by those who had no imagination or insight as to what the device was actually capable of accomplishing. That's what separates the great from the mediocre, and someone like Jobs from Michael Dell or Bill Gates.
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post #60 of 220
10/21/11 at 6:08pm
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No it's not- what did it do that the iPod Touch couldn't? Except display larger images?

So it's an iPod with a bigger screen? So what?

It's a brilliant device and the bigger screen just opens the opportunity to do so much more with it.

No matter how you haters swing this and rewrite history, iPad1 was amazingly successful the moment it shipped.
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post #61 of 220
10/21/11 at 6:25pm
I'm surprised Steve Jobs was depressed by the general reaction to the iPad. It seems to me a definite case of "future shock".

Even I will admit that I was puzzled by and disinterested in the iPad at first. And I sort of resented the direction it appeared to lead us, away from the power and flexibility of a desktop computer. Luckily, I'm married to someone who doesn't give a rat's butt about the direction technology goes and she wanted an iPad because it looked convenient. I bought it for her and have since come to realize that it fills the same mobile, light-use, quick-access gap that laptops used to fill before they grew powerful enough to compete with desktop PCs. The iPad has almost replaced my laptop at this point, and that's something I would never have foreseen.

Jobs and Apple were just way ahead of the curve with the iPad and the reactions (mine included) were simply people not realizing it was something they actually did want. I'm surprised Jobs didn't realize that and treat it as something to be proud of.

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post #62 of 220
10/21/11 at 6:26pm
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Well. There really isnt any reason now with an A5 processor we at least can't have an option to turn on or off Flash. Lack of Flash does cripple the device somewhat.

That would be like when Chicago reverses the flow of the Chicago [Des Plaines] river and reverses the flow of raw sewerage into Lake Michigan.

Every St. Paddy's day they dye the Chicago river green (to desguise the brown bits) and some idiot waterskis on it...

"Siri, What is Flash?"

Siri: "a gaudy outward display." *

* one of several choices... That seemed appropriate here

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post #63 of 220
10/21/11 at 6:30pm
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Well. There really isnt any reason now with an A5 processor we at least can't have an option to turn on or off Flash. Lack of Flash does cripple the device somewhat.

hate to pile on you, but Flash is so ... history. the Fat Lady has sung.
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post #64 of 220
10/21/11 at 6:31pm
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But the original criticism was warranted, it basically was a giant ipod Touch at launch and Apple improved the iPad immensely since then. They launched a tablet that initially couldn't even multitask. Now it's world class leading product.

You know what? For normal people, in normal use multitasking didnt even fucking matter. It's the blogosphere that made it seem like it a a make-or-break feature, enough to mock the iPad 6 way to Sunday. I've witness dozens upon dozens of people use the iPad 2. You know what? Not ONCE did I see ANYONE use the multitasking bar. It just isn't that big of a deal on something like the iPad. Yes, it's nice to have, and I use it, but to suggest the original iPad was 'crippled' is completely false. People who live i nthe echo-chambers of the tech-blogosphere lose touch of how the vast majority of normal people use products. Just like copy and paste, something that I doubt the majority of iPhone owners have even used ONCE. But of course, the entire internet was foaming at the mouth that the iPhone was basically useless and a toy before they added this.
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post #65 of 220
10/21/11 at 6:33pm
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It was only warranted by those who had no imagination or insight as to what the device was actually capable of accomplishing. That's what separates the great from the mediocre, and someone like Jobs from Michael Dell or Bill Gates.

YESS!!! This fuels the entire debate. Those of us who were "early adopters" (a derogatory term if ever I heard one) saw the potential and the vision despite a shortcoming or two. We knew where it was going.
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post #66 of 220
10/21/11 at 6:36pm
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That's your opinion. Not having multitasking on a tablet was a fail in many ways and I could give you countless examples but it's water under the bridge, things evolved.

I didn't even bring Android tablets into it. No I don't think they're any good and half baked at best. I'm typing this on my iPad2 for a reason. But this was about Jobs and the iPad launch.


Don't forget the iPad hype was unlike any other. If Apple released a unicorn it wouldn't have been enough.

I heard that fire was only kinda warm when it first came out...

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post #67 of 220
10/21/11 at 6:37pm
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Well. There really isnt any reason now with an A5 processor we at least can't have an option to turn on or off Flash. Lack of Flash does cripple the device somewhat.

Some people never learn....

First, there are massive security problems with Flash. The A5 doesn't help that.

Second, Flash is crash prone. The A5 doesn't help that.

The most important reason, though, it that you sometimes need to make a break with history to get ahead. If Apple had offered Flash as an option, most developers wouldn't have gone to the trouble to create Flash-free content. They would have simply put up a message saying "please turn Flash on" - so we'd be no better off than if Flash were on by default. It was only the fact that Flash was not available AT ALL that made developers come up with new things.
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post #68 of 220
10/21/11 at 6:43pm
What did Steve expect? The vast majority of North American media today is advertising and partnership driven. Meaning, if they can't get any revenue from you, they either won't care about you if you're small or they'll bash you if you're big. There are very few people in the media who actually have independent thoughts or care about anything other than getting as many eyes on their articles as possible to generate advertising revenue.

That's both Apple's greatest strength and their biggest shortcoming: they don't play the game like everyone else does. They're more interested in spending their money on the best engineering than on giving everyone in the media a golden handshake to push a second-rate product. And because of that, everyone else hates the fact that Apple is doing so well but they aren't getting a piece of the pie.
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post #69 of 220
10/21/11 at 6:49pm
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I'm with you on this, Dick. DED suffered the slings and arrows of an unending barrage of outrageous comments, and this may be his opportunity for a huge counterattack. Perhaps it's overdone, but he does have a point. Some of the critics in the media had it coming.

Aside from that, let me share an iPad experience. We were in Florida on April 30, 2010 the day the first 3G iPads went on sale - halfway through a 3,000-mile vacation road trip, visiting our kids and their families. With that portability and wireless capability, I can assure you that the second half of our road trip was a lot richer and more interesting than the first. For almost 18 months now, our two iPads have performed flawlessly. When we're away from home, they let us navigate, search for local food and lodging, stream Internet audio, and use apps like EyeTV Remote and StreamToMe to access digital entertainment on our IMacs at home. MobileMe and iDisk have let us keep our address book, contacts, calendar and files synced and current wherever we are and on whatever iDevice we're using. I don't need the photo and movie capability of an iPad 2 since we can shoot content and transfer from our iPhones. Depending on what features will be incorporated in the iPad 3, then will be the time we will probably upgrade.

So when the revisionist historians make claims that the first iPads were crippled and that it took a software update like multitasking to make them worthwhile, my wife and I can put the lie to their claims. We were there. We used the iPads from 3G Day One. Our experience was awesome from the git-go and has only gotten better.

Very similar experience here.

We also use iCam to monitor the homefront while we're away... And I have used StreamToMe to show off home soccer movies (from last week) while in the middle of a park (at this week's game).

Traffic reports on one iPad, while the grandkids were watching movies on the other iPad in the back seat.

Now, each of us has his own iPad -- and we group read, aloud, several times a week... You should hear my 11-year-old grandson read The ballad of the Ice-Worm Cocktail".
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10/21/11 at 6:58pm
I'll be honest, I was initially pretty underwhelmed by the initial iPad launch. To be frank, it was one of Apple's/Jobs' most boring keynotes ever. I don't blame for Steve for not being a dynamo of energy at that point in time. But it lacked that usual Apple electricity.

To be clear, I think the iPad is a pretty cool product now - I have an iPad 2. I think part of the misunderstanding of it was that the iPad is so plain physically. Beautiful, slim, capable. But it's especially featureless without software. After all, the iPad is essentially a portal to apps, games, websites, books, and other content. And that stuff did not quite appear to be there at launch.

Even now, if I'm perfectly honest, the iPad is a bit of an enigma. Extremely simple and pared down to its essence. Yet, you have really have to reframe your expectations for it. If a friend asked me if they should get a Mac, I'd say, "Sure, I've been using Macs for 8 years and I'd recommend one for anyone that's not a hardcore gamer. " And even then, you could Boot Camp. If someone asks me if they should get an iPad, I say, "It's really good at a handful of things. Reading books/magazines, web browsing, touch games, etc. Things you do while sitting on a couch. Don't expect it to replace your computer." \

I think even today, tablets are still finding their place.
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10/21/11 at 7:07pm
When the media poo pooed the iPad I decided to buy 10K in Apple stock when it dropped in February and March. I keep looking for an opportunity like that again. The recent worries about the iPhone sales last quarter might be a similar opportunity, but not enough so for me to buy more shares.
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10/21/11 at 7:12pm
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YESS!!! This fuels the entire debate. Those of us who were "early adopters" (a derogatory term if ever I heard one) saw the potential and the vision despite a shortcoming or two. We knew where it was going.

Exactly the reason why I jumped on the iPhone when it first came out.

Every other "smart phone" at the time had a closed, oddball, third-party designed OS which was completely unattractive for the average developer to try and extend or create software for (proprietary serial port connectors to do development? Really?). These were not platforms where, if you took the time to learn them, your effort would be worthwhile going forward. They were throwaway technology.

The first time I jailbroke my iPhone (using the standard dock connector that came with it) and found a pared down UNIX system with much of Mac OS X on it, I knew that this platform would support anything I wanted to do for many years to come (even though the tools to do so weren't officially provided by Apple yet). From running UNIX servers, to creating rich graphical applications.

Sure Android has the same thing now, but there's still a lot of inconsistency in which devices support which OS version and which features. Overall, it still feels pretty messy and haphazard from a technology standpoint.
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10/21/11 at 7:19pm
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Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

That would be like when Chicago reverses the flow of the Chicago [Des Plaines] river and reverses the flow of raw sewerage into Lake Michigan.

Every St. Paddy's day they dye the Chicago river green (to desguise the brown bits) and some idiot waterskis on it...

"Siri, What is Flash?"

Siri: "a gaudy outward display." *

* one of several choices... That seemed appropriate here

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Remember when Steve Jobs said "Hell froze over"? Wait til Cook gives the Mac blu- ray, 3D screens and matte options on the iMac. Then we can talk.
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10/21/11 at 7:22pm
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Some people never learn....

First, there are massive security problems with Flash. The A5 doesn't help that.

Second, Flash is crash prone. The A5 doesn't help that.

The most important reason, though, it that you sometimes need to make a break with history to get ahead. If Apple had offered Flash as an option, most developers wouldn't have gone to the trouble to create Flash-free content. They would have simply put up a message saying "please turn Flash on" - so we'd be no better off than if Flash were on by default. It was only the fact that Flash was not available AT ALL that made developers come up with new things.

So in the meantime you're satisfied to go run and turn on your Mac to view something that your iPod won't allow??? Or do you simply deem it unworthy?
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10/21/11 at 7:25pm
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There were -- and are -- areas where Apple has really screwed up. The current IOS 5 release will WIFI sync on XP, a 10 year old non-native OS, but it won't WIFI sync on Leopard, a 4-year old NATIVE Apple OS, not on Intel or on the PPC. This is an arbitrary -- and stupid -- limitation. Apple is dead silent on the issue, re-dropping a ball they had already dropped badly enough, frankly.

With Lion, Apple dropped PPC emulation -- completely arbitrarily -- thus throwing a whole generation of otherwise perfectly good -- and working well -- software in the trash.

There are real improvements that could be made, about which there have been numerous suggestions: the iPod/iPad could have had a mono-out option right out of the gate, both to enable those with one good ear, and to allow music in one ear and monitoring of, for instance, a baby's cry in the next room. It took a LONG time to get that simple software fix into the system, despite loud cries from the hearing disabled community. The iPad could have had an IR emitter, a matter of a few pennies: an IR diode and a hole in the case, and it would have made an AWESOME remote control. The iPad could have a memory slot for any number of good reasons.

Snow Leopard was such a highly incompatible release, a third party website sprang up to try and help people deal with the software mayhem... and that was nothing compared to Lion.

People with Leopard (10.5.x)... not even invited to the whole "Ap Store" party. And why? Completely arbitrary, that's why. No good reason at all, other than they wanted to push Snow Leopard and subseqently Lion.

Want to complain about it? Go to Apple's feedback page, and select your OS. Your options are Snow Leopard and Lion. They don't even what to HEAR from you if you haven't bought a new OS from them.

I could go on, but suffice it to say, that while Apple has indeed done well, particularly in the hardware area, perfect it most certainly is not. I can only hope that with new management, someone there will remember that people who bought new machines 4 years ago are still potential customers, and perhaps its not all that bright an idea to kick them in a down economy for no good reason at all.

Seriously? Microsoft doesn't support XP with IE9. They won't with their application store either. Heck, they won't even be supporting Vista with IE10 when it comes out. These companies want you to upgrade to the latest OS because service can then be streamlined. I wouldn't say that's Apple's fault, it's very common industry-wide and simple human nature. Spend the $30 for Snow Leopard, it's worth it.
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10/21/11 at 7:25pm
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Originally Posted by thataveragejoe View Post

But the original criticism was warranted, it basically was a giant ipod Touch at launch and Apple improved the iPad immensely since then. They launched a tablet that initially couldn't even multitask. Now it's world class leading product.

You are full of it! I use my original iPad every day and did so out of the box on the day of release. Your ignorance is typical though profound! I'm so sorry that a man in his last days and years had to persevere these fools. Great minds however, have always suffered such ignorance.

The iPhone is now the subject of this B.S. The first product of its kind, it will for ever be recognised for its revolutionary capabilities.

Stick the trolls on the ignore list and be done with!
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post #77 of 220
10/21/11 at 7:25pm
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it opened the door to the future that the iPad has become, dummy. some of us were smart enuff to see that coming - as it did fairly quickly - while the boo-birds obsessed on what it hadn't done yet that second. that is always the Apple story, which is DED's point.

Siri is the same today - it's a beta! do you think Apple is going to stop here in terms of what it can do? get a clue!

No fool -most of us waited for an iPad 2 with cameras, speed and thinness and let you beta testers pave our way.
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post #78 of 220
10/21/11 at 7:32pm
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Everyone is still missing the point. The media was right then and they would still be right if they stuck to their guns. Steve managed to sell something that is not as useful as something else he could shave sold. Imagine he came out with an iPad that ran a real OS and all that other shit. That would have been to everyone's expectations. Still, despite the large adoption, it does so little and he has somehow managed to force people to accept less.

Breathtaking! One last time - you obviously have no idea of the complexities of engineering at these scales. The iPad has always run the very best (consumer but not only) operating system that exists today. Further, both the hardware and OS have always been fully multi-tasking (in response to similar posts). Cut the crap or get lost!
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10/21/11 at 7:45pm
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So in the meantime you're satisfied to go run and turn on your Mac to view something that your iPod won't allow??? Or do you simply deem it unworthy?

No, I have Click2Flash on the Macs -- if it's in Flash only, I can't waste my time watching it...

Very few things left that are Flash only...

And I avoid all those imbecillic, irritating ads...
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10/21/11 at 7:46pm
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WRONG. It was awesome from DAY 1. I bought one on day 1 and I don't ever recall being let down. I was amazed from day 1. Multi-tasking? Whatever.

As for the "big iPod" comment. That is such a stupid criticism. That's like saying a swimming pool is "just a big bathtub".

Exactly!
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